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T-Mobile finally pushed the 4.3 update earlier today but DO NOT UPDATE YOUR PHONE IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR ROOT! It comes with a locked bootloader. Therefore, once you are on 4.3 stock, you can only flash stock firmwares then. If you try to root your phone on 4.3 with the standard method, it will blow your efuse and void your warranty!
AGAIN, DO NOT UPDATE 4.3 VIA OTA OR ODIN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOID YOUR WARRANTY. IF YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, FEEL FREE TO UPDATE
Info on KNOX:
Hawke84 said:
What we know so far (I think!)
1. Upgrading to newer Samsung firmware will upgrade the bootloader to knox bootloader. this will give an additional 2 lines in download mode about knox status.
2. If the Knox warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use knox softwareas your device has been flagged as insecure. By this i mean that if your workplace / company supports bring your own device to work for corporate emails etc and they use knox to keep security your device will not allow this. You are still able to use future samsung firmware releases with the knox flag 0x1. hope this makes sense. sorry for any confusion this has caused!
3. If the knox warranty line says 0x0 knox will work.
4. with the new knox bootloader root will work, however rooting with CFautorootwill trip the knox flag. thanks @DjeMBeY for correcting this point you can use the root method (Root de la Vega) described here for rooting a device with knox bootloader.
5. If you try to downgrade to earlier firmware / bootloader it will set the knox flag to 0x1 i.e. void.
6. once the knox flag gets set to 0x1 there is no way to set it back (that anyone has found yet anyway!)
7. some newer 4.2.2 software that's supplied with the knox bootloader has been repacked by devs to not use the new bootloader and it all works fine you can still keep up to date.
8. I've seen people trying the test build of 4.3 touchwiz without the new knox bootloader sound and wifi does not work. This is no longer the case, see point 12.
9. There seems to be a big question mark as to weather Samsung will allow hardware repairs under warranty with the knox 0x1 flag
10. only seems to affect GT-i9505 at the moment!
11. Software affected thanks to @DjeMBeY
12. it is now possible to install custom 4.3 TW roms which have been modified to work without the new knox bootloader, do make sure that they are free from knox bootloader before flashing. Do note also that if you already have knox bootloader flashing anything even these 4.3 custom roms will still trip your 0x1 flag
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Credit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470635
Thanks to @Mr Impossible @Jamison904 @jovy23 and everyone else!
DO NOT FLASH MODEMS/BASEBAND EITHER..... does not let u make phone calls on the leaked 4.3 tw version..... or the regular 4.2.2 version and like some1 said 4.4..... not sure if it works on the official 4.3 tw released today since no dev has released a rom of it... so do not flash if u need to make or receive phone calls makes ur phone freeze and wont make the actual call
richardmkovach said:
Same here. Have tried GPE 4.3, stock 4.2.2, and international 4.3 TW. Phone freezes when trying to make a phone call.
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Anyone taking the OTA or Odin the new firmware will be sorry they did. Modem is also tied to the bootloader somehow as was the i9505 and won't work without the bootloader. Seems to be more security in this also. More to come...
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If you already flashed the new modem and want to get back to MDL to make phone calls lol here it is
bogdi1988 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282342
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I dont think it comes with a lock bootloader but more of with new knox flash counter.
gypsy214 said:
I dont think it comes with a lock bootloader but more of with new knox flash counter.
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Is already confirmed that it comes with LOCKED bootloaded
Along w/ no calls, does it include breaking sound?
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I dont think it comes with a lock bootloader but more of with new knox flash counter.
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All Samsung bootloaders have been locked after MH8. This is part of Knox security.
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gdmlaz said:
DO NOT FLASH MODEMS/BASEBAND EITHER..... does not let u make phone calls on the leaked 4.3 tw version..... or the regular 4.2.2 version and like some1 said 4.4..... not sure if it works on the official 4.3 tw released today since no dev has released a rom of it... so do not flash if u need to make or receive phone calls makes ur phone freeze and wont make the actual call
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Thats sucks. Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking of flashing the kernel with a 4.3 9505 rom.
How about doing that?
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Mr Impossible said:
All Samsung bootloaders have been locked after MH8. This is part of Knox security.
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So lock bootloader like on Att and verizon? I think samsung will loose a lot of business in the near future
This seems to be the problem
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Anyone taking the OTA or Odin the new firmware will be sorry they did. Modem is also tied to the bootloader somehow as was the i9505 and won't work without the bootloader. Seems to be more security in this also. More to come...
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@jovy23 flashed the OTA and now cannot Odin a custom recovery nor revert to MDL. Odin fails every time. I have a locked Verizon S4 I bought for testing (not much good that did) this is the exact same thing I fought weeks to brake.. Nothing. It is locked.
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This seems to be the problem
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Thats sucks. I hope people on XDA will read before they make a mistake
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324667
There is a Odin tar for T-Mobile MDL modem here. If you didn't take the OTA but Odin the modem you "should" be OK with this. Be sure to thank the OP of that thread!
I just wanted to throw this out there... I had the stock ROM but rooted. Did my update through Kies fine. My data stayed intact. However, as some others have reported, I lost my root. Now I'm not sure how to get it back. I've seen mention of rooting it another method will void my warranty but I can't find info on how that's done.
Jamison904 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324667
There is a Odin tar for T-Mobile MDL modem here. If you didn't take the OTA but Odin the modem you "should" be OK with this. Be sure to thank the OP of that thread!
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Thanks dude. I was to the point that I didnt cared if my knox counter was stripped but now with lock bootloader plus lock modem it seems useless. Samsung is trying really hard to keep it lock.
gypsy214 said:
Thanks dude. I was to the point that I didnt cared if my knox counter was stripped but now with lock bootloader plus lock modem it seems useless. Samsung is trying really hard to keep it lock.
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They are just trying to be more like Apple how they have been trying to avoid Jailbreak. Samsung is trying to avoid root. #DumbF**ks
Tunasty said:
They are just trying to be more like Apple how they have been trying to avoid Jailbreak. Samsung is trying to avoid root. #DumbF**ks
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if that is the case I will not buy any more Samsung.. that is why I bought the tmobile version even though I am on At&t .. total bs.
Tunasty said:
They are just trying to be more like Apple how they have been trying to avoid Jailbreak. Samsung is trying to avoid root. #DumbF**ks
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Exactly my point. Ive been saying it all along. Trying to become evil apple lol. It sucks for them. I dont know if I will be buying any other samsung device in the future
lgkahn said:
if that is theh case I will not buy any more Samsung.. that is why I bought the tmobile version even though I am on At&t .. total bs.
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Same here man. Using M919 (T-Mobile) device on AT&T.
Tunasty said:
Same here man. Using M919 (T-Mobile) device on AT&T.
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htc locks bootloaders too... does LG?
Thanks for the heads up. New to the S4 since some 3 weeks ago, and this is definitely not good news.
lgkahn said:
htc locks bootloaders too... does LG?
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The only difference is that HTC gives you the option to unlock boooader on htcdev.com
Lg in the other hand they just dont give out any source code
hello , my galaxy s3 is at 4.3 and imei locked but my sim is working fine with no problem beside the mmi (which i solved it ), i want to root my phone but without trip Knox counter and i have a Q : if i did something wrong in the proses of rooting , what should i do ? and is there by any chance that sim will not work if i used kies to reinstall 4.3 ?
thank u for helping
Unfortuantly, there is no way to root your phone without tripping the KNOX counter. You can make backups before you root with this, and actually root with this. Good luck!
P.S, please try to improve your grammar, bad grammar pushes away support, and makes your text hard to read.
If you decide to go ahead with rooting, and the CF-Auto-Root method to which HeroCC provided the link does not work, check method two in this post |Guide|How-To| Root & Install Custom Recovery for 4.3 Update
(method one is the CF-Auto-Root manner)
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If you decide to go ahead with rooting, and the CF-Auto-Root method to which HeroCC provided the link does not work, check method two in this post |Guide|How-To| Root & Install Custom Recovery for 4.3 Update
(method one is the CF-Auto-Root manner)
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thank you so much , it works without any problem :good::good::good::good:
about what about kiktak update ?
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Unfortuantly, there is no way to root your phone without tripping the KNOX counter. You can make backups before you root with this, and actually root with this. Good luck!
P.S, please try to improve your grammar, bad grammar pushes away support, and makes your text hard to read.
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thank you for he P.S , i will
a1white said:
thank you so much , it works without any problem :good::good::good::good:
about what about kiktak update ?
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I have yet to see the official AT&T kitkat update roll out where I am. Nor have I seen any TouchWiz kitkat ROMs, I wouldn't expect any until the official version or a leaked release of it is out from Samsung or AT&T. There are AOSP/AOKP based versions of kitkat available.
Hi Friends,
I just got a T-Mobile Note 3, that came with Firmware: NB4 (Android 4.4.2).
Can anyone confirm that they were able to Root and then use Region Lock Away to SIM Unlock their phone to use on other Carriers? I would like to use mine on AT&T?
If not possible, what did you do? Can I downgrade via a Custom ROM and then use it? Does installing Custom Recoveries STILL trip the Knox counter? Is there any way around it?
Thank you so much for your quick help!
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Hi Friends,
I just got a T-Mobile Note 3, that came with Firmware: NB4 (Android 4.4.2).
Can anyone confirm that they were able to Root and then use Region Lock Away to SIM Unlock their phone to use on other Carriers? I would like to use mine on AT&T?
If not possible, what did you do? Can I downgrade via a Custom ROM and then use it? Does installing Custom Recoveries STILL trip the Knox counter? Is there any way around it?
Thank you so much for your quick help!
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I was able to root with Chainfire's AutoRoot, and then I used his RegionLock Away app to unlock it as well, so yes, it does work. Just follow the instructions carefully.
The method I used tripped Knox, but I don't know if there may be another method now that doesn't trip it.
ProFragger said:
Hi Friends,
I just got a T-Mobile Note 3, that came with Firmware: NB4 (Android 4.4.2).
Can anyone confirm that they were able to Root and then use Region Lock Away to SIM Unlock their phone to use on other Carriers? I would like to use mine on AT&T?
If not possible, what did you do? Can I downgrade via a Custom ROM and then use it? Does installing Custom Recoveries STILL trip the Knox counter? Is there any way around it?
Thank you so much for your quick help!
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I don't know of any way to downgrade your firmware but towelroot came out the other day that should work with our phone that claims to not trip Knox. I believe it works on the NE6 (latest) firmware. As for Region Lock Away, check the website to see if it has compatibility issues with NE6.
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I was able to root with Chainfire's AutoRoot, and then I used his RegionLock Away app to unlock it as well, so yes, it does work. Just follow the instructions carefully.
The method I used tripped Knox, but I don't know if there may be another method now that doesn't trip it.
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I don't know of any way to downgrade your firmware but towelroot came out the other day that should work with our phone that claims to not trip Knox. I believe it works on the NE6 (latest) firmware. As for Region Lock Away, check the website to see if it has compatibility issues with NE6.
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Thank you for your responses guys, I *think* the Firmeware I have is "NB4"... does that sound like a valid release?
And Techngro, could you confirm that you have "NB4" or 4.4.2 and Region Lock Away still worked?
I have been on Sprint N3 for a while, with last ROM installed 6 months ago, just Stock Rooted, Odined. I assume there is still NO WAY to install custom ROMs and Recoveries without tripping Knox?
Thanks again guys!
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Thank you for your responses guys, I *think* the Firmeware I have is "NB4"... does that sound like a valid release?
And Techngro, could you confirm that you have "NB4" or 4.4.2 and Region Lock Away still worked?
I have been on Sprint N3 for a while, with last ROM installed 6 months ago, just Stock Rooted, Odined. I assume there is still NO WAY to install custom ROMs and Recoveries without tripping Knox?
Thanks again guys!
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when I was on nb4 I was unable to use region lock away and have it carrier unlock. things may have changed, but you will have to trip Knox if you want a root method for nb4. towelroot works on ne6 without tripping Knox, but again BBB unsure if region lock away has compatibility issues.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
noobtoob said:
when I was on nb4 I was unable to use region lock away and have it carrier unlock. things may have changed, but you will have to trip Knox if you want a root method for nb4. towelroot works on ne6 without tripping Knox, but again BBB unsure if region lock away has compatibility issues.
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Thanks for chiming in bud!
I guess, the most important thing to me is getting that SIM unlocked since I want to use it on the ATT network.
The Knox trip seems inevitable to me as well, since I really want to enjoy my Note 3 with all the ROMs and Themes out there, Sammy won't honor my warranty anyway, since I bought my phone from Craigslist...
So can anyone confirm or negate, if getting the SIM unlock via NB4 is possible? If so, how did they exactly do it?
If not, and I have Custom Recovery installed, can I just jump to ANY older ROM and basically get the Region Lock to work?
Thanks again!
Once on the 4.4 bootloader, you cannot roll back. You can definitely just use cf autoroot, and try out region lock away. It will trip Knox, but if inevitable, might as well take the plunge now and give it a try.
Or, upgrade firmware to ne6, use towel root, try region lock away. This way you keep Knox in tact and can report back.
But why do you need region away? Is the phone not paid off? If it is, just get unlock code from t-mobile. Mine only took 2 days.
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Once on the 4.4 bootloader, you cannot roll back. You can definitely just use cf autoroot, and try out region lock away. It will trip Knox, but if inevitable, might as well take the plunge now and give it a try.
Or, upgrade firmware to ne6, use towel root, try region lock away. This way you keep Knox in tact and can report back.
But why do you need region away? Is the phone not paid off? If it is, just get unlock code from t-mobile. Mine only took 2 days.
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Thanks for the very helpful advice there, bud.
Let me see if I understand these correctly:
1. No way to NOT trip Knox on NB4 and Root
2. To root without Knox I have to take a Firmware update to NE4 then do TowelRoot
3. Even if I have the Knox 0x0, there is NO WAY on the T-Mobile Note 3 to install and use Custom ROMs, Recoveries, Themes, and/or Kernels, correct? Because I thought ATT allowed that via Safe Strap?
I bought my Tmo N3 from Craigslist, probably never gonna have anyone honor a warranty on it - Sammy or Tmo. I am not a Tmo customer and wanna use the Tmo N3 on an ATT Prepaid MVNO, like Straight Talk.
That's why I need the Region Lock Away or SIM Unlock to work...
ProFragger said:
Thanks for the very helpful advice there, bud.
Let me see if I understand these correctly:
1. No way to NOT trip Knox on NB4 and Root
2. To root without Knox I have to take a Firmware update to NE4 then do TowelRoot
3. Even if I have the Knox 0x0, there is NO WAY on the T-Mobile Note 3 to install and use Custom ROMs, Recoveries, Themes, and/or Kernels, correct? Because I thought ATT allowed that via Safe Strap?
I bought my Tmo N3 from Craigslist, probably never gonna have anyone honor a warranty on it - Sammy or Tmo. I am not a Tmo customer and wanna use the Tmo N3 on an ATT Prepaid MVNO, like Straight Talk.
That's why I need the Region Lock Away or SIM Unlock to work...
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correct. if you came from jb to nb4 release, then you could've retained root through a work around method without tripping Knox.
but... since you are already on nb4 with Knox 0x0, there is no root method that doesn't trip it.
also correct that you can upgrade firmware through ne6 and use towel root without tripping Knox.
lastly, if your phone is paid off though, whether you have service or not through t mobile, they can provide you with the unlock code, because the phone is in fact paid for. unless it is not, then I can see the reason for region lock away.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
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correct. if you came from jb to nb4 release, then you could've retained root through a work around method without tripping Knox.
but... since you are already on nb4 with Knox 0x0, there is no root method that doesn't trip it.
also correct that you can upgrade firmware through ne6 and use towel root without tripping Knox.
lastly, if your phone is paid off though, whether you have service or not through t mobile, they can provide you with the unlock code, because the phone is in fact paid for. unless it is not, then I can see the reason for region lock away.
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Again, thank you for the great response bud!
Another root method I heard *may* work without the Knox trip is the Kingo Root... any thoughts?
Can you (or anyone else reading this) confirm, that if I wanted to install Custom ROMs and Themes on this phone, there is NO WAY I can do that without tripping Knox?
Lastly, I think if you are not a Tmo customer in some capacity or another, they just will not give you the code, I think... So I need the Region Lock Away ...
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Again, thank you for the great response bud!
Another root method I heard *may* work without the Knox trip is the Kingo Root... any thoughts?
Can you (or anyone else reading this) confirm, that if I wanted to install Custom ROMs and Themes on this phone, there is NO WAY I can do that without tripping Knox?
Lastly, I think if you are not a Tmo customer in some capacity or another, they just will not give you the code, I think... So I need the Region Lock Away ...
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Kingo root only works on 4.3. will not work on your current firmware.
Give T-Mobile a call first, you just may get it.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
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Kingo root only works on 4.3. will not work on your current firmware.
Give T-Mobile a call first, you just may get it.
Fusionized tweaking tapatalker here...
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Thanks much bud!
Has anyone else had success with Region Lock Away on NB4? If so, what was your Root Method?
Thanks!
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Thanks much bud!
Has anyone else had success with Region Lock Away on NB4? If so, what was your Root Method?
Thanks!
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Sorry for the long response time. Yes, I believe I was on NB4 when I rooted and unlocked, but I don't remember for sure. I know I am currently on NB4 though.
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Once on the 4.4 bootloader, you cannot roll back. You can definitely just use cf autoroot, and try out region lock away. It will trip Knox, but if inevitable, might as well take the plunge now and give it a try.
Or, upgrade firmware to ne6, use towel root, try region lock away. This way you keep Knox in tact and can report back.
But why do you need region away? Is the phone not paid off? If it is, just get unlock code from t-mobile. Mine only took 2 days.
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What exactly do you mean by getting an unlock code from tmobile?? For about the past month I've been in Arkansas and i swear all they have is [email protected] towers and Verizon. I'm basically using my edge network the whole time which doesn't suffice. Is this unlock code something that let's you pick up off the other towers or would I need to go another route?!
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Anonymous777 said:
What exactly do you mean by getting an unlock code from tmobile?? For about the past month I've been in Arkansas and i swear all they have is [email protected] towers and Verizon. I'm basically using my edge network the whole time which doesn't suffice. Is this unlock code something that let's you pick up off the other towers or would I need to go another route?!
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This whole thread is about SIM unlocking the T-Mobile note 3 to use on another carriers network. The T-mobile note 3 is able to pretty much use any GSM carriers sim card (i.e. AT&T, Straight Talk, AIO/Cricket Wireless...) if you receive your unlock code: either through t-mobile themselves (by having a paid off phone), by using the region lock away by @Chainfire (may not work on all firmwares), or purchasing an unlock code from one of the websites that offer sim card unlocking. Once unlocked you can get one of the pre-paid sims (like AIO or Straight talk) for $10 and use AT&T towers, or just completely switch carriers.
This is in no way shape or form speaking about using root on these phones with an unlocked bootloader, which seems to confuse most people. I know you didn't ask this, just wanted to put it out there for anyone else who may be confused.
Okay that makes sense, thanks man!
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My understanding is that the retail verizon wireless edition (non-DE) of this phone can still be rooted. But you will trip knox, thus voiding warranty. I also understand you don't have an unlocked bootloader either.
I don't care about warranty, but I do want root. My question then becomes about future updates. If knox is tripped, can I still get to lollipop when it is released. I know I would probably loose root again at that point, but I live in the hope that eventually that too will get rooted (I know it may be vain hope, but still).
If my phone is rooted, will it block me from ever getting lollipop? Because without a bootloader, I can't put lollipop on through a custom rom either.
So, for someone who absolutely doesn't care about warranty issues, is root still a bad idea?
Thanks
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My understanding is that the retail verizon wireless edition (non-DE) of this phone can still be rooted. But you will trip knox, thus voiding warranty. I also understand you don't have an unlocked bootloader either.
I don't care about warranty, but I do want root. My question then becomes about future updates. If knox is tripped, can I still get to lollipop when it is released. I know I would probably loose root again at that point, but I live in the hope that eventually that too will get rooted (I know it may be vain hope, but still).
If my phone is rooted, will it block me from ever getting lollipop? Because without a bootloader, I can't put lollipop on through a custom rom either.
So, for someone who absolutely doesn't care about warranty issues, is root still a bad idea?
Thanks
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There is currently no known root method for the retail VZW Note 4.
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There is currently no known root method for the retail VZW Note 4.
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Interesting, I read somewhere you can root it still, but it will just trip knox. Maybe they were wrong.
I'm seriously struggling pulling the trigger on buying this without root. But I don't care about warranty.
nertskull said:
Interesting, I read somewhere you can root it still, but it will just trip knox. Maybe they were wrong.
I'm seriously struggling pulling the trigger on buying this without root. But I don't care about warranty.
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Nothing yet. It's a nice phone but if you need root go for the DE edition. I can live without root, it would be nice but it's not a big deal to me. I have other rooted phones I can mess with if I want.
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Interesting, I read somewhere you can root it still, but it will just trip knox. Maybe they were wrong.
I'm seriously struggling pulling the trigger on buying this without root. But I don't care about warranty.
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This phone is great as is. I personally would not let no root stop me from getting this phone. But its up to you.
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Good afternoon,
Hey you guys, just got my note 4 and looking to root. It is at the latest version nk2. Can I use the chainfire autoroot for this version.. It looked like the previous version was the one listed on their site.. Just figured I would check here first before just diving right in..
Thanks.
Yes
still trips knox ?
It def trips knox... So I would use the old version to root the nk2 then right... Just to clarify... Sorry just wanted to make sure..
sorry im a noob to the sgn4. is there a way to root without tripping knox ?
Nomad397 said:
sorry im a noob to the sgn4. is there a way to root without tripping knox ?
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No, there is not.. You want root, you trip KNOX. KNOX is designed to let IT and corporate admin techs know that your device is no longer secure and may have been compromised. That way they can decide to allow it on the corporate network or not.