[Q] There is no way to get to recovery mode - Sony Xperia ZL

So, I got an used Xperia ZL. The person who sold me this said he installed an international firmware, 4.3 and after installing SuperSU I noticed the device is rooted (and bootloader is locked). Now, I want to install a custom ROM but I cannot access Recovery mode! When phone starts there is no LED, pressing volume up does nothing, I installed Quick Boot, clicked restart on recovery but it does nothing. I even tried ADB boot recovery but the phone just restarts normally. What can I do?? I'm going crazy with this phone. Thanks for the help!

Aoi v1 said:
So, I got an used Xperia ZL. The person who sold me this said he installed an international firmware, 4.3 and after installing SuperSU I noticed the device is rooted (and bootloader is locked). Now, I want to install a custom ROM but I cannot access Recovery mode! When phone starts there is no LED, pressing volume up does nothing, I installed Quick Boot, clicked restart on recovery but it does nothing. I even tried ADB boot recovery but the phone just restarts normally. What can I do?? I'm going crazy with this phone. Thanks for the help!
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you have to install custom recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261606

Install XZDualRecovery, it is the only way
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Ah, thank you both. I got what the problem was, 'cause I installed recovery, then a new rom and lost recovery again xD Now i know, recovery needs to be installed every time something else is flashed. Thanks!

Aoi v1 said:
Ah, thank you both. I got what the problem was, 'cause I installed recovery, then a new rom and lost recovery again xD Now i know, recovery needs to be installed every time something else is flashed. Thanks!
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Hey.... Share how to install recovery(noob method please). Im stuck too. Already tried many method. But, im still don't have recovery. Wasted 8 hours just trying to gets that mother F.
Sent from my C6502

rayzaweirdooo said:
Hey.... Share how to install recovery(noob method please). Im stuck too. Already tried many method. But, im still don't have recovery. Wasted 8 hours just trying to gets that mother F.
Sent from my C6502
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I already posted the link above. Go to that link and install xz dual recovery.

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Huawei 8120 refuse to boot up bootloader not working to.

So i was using slyking241 rom for a wile but then i decided to go back to stock rom i followed this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011527 tutorial step by step to reset my phone but when it starts updating it says unpacking and then updating gives na error i tried it multiple time but no luck then i though that i should go back to the 2.3.7 sly rom but it refused to boot up just get the cwm boot screen and endless reboots so i wiped data , cache,dalvik,battery stats but it still wont boot i reflashed the rom still doesnt boot tried 2.2 rom still doesn't boot..(cant past the sand clock icon) the recovery works fine i thought of istalling new recovery but i cant get into bootloader please help.
Thank You
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The U8120 hasn't a real bootloader.
You hould flash the phone again!
And I mean fullflash (root the phone,install AmonRA...)
Just like you want to root it.
In my Thread (just click U8120 in signature) you can download the stock rom!
P.S.on't change the recovery after rooting!
Eclair works only with AmonRA
!FORMAT YOUR SDCARD BEFORE TRYING THIS!
how should i reinstall it if it doesnt boot up?
Jorius said:
how should i reinstall it if it doesnt boot up?
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You got a SD-Card Adapter?
If not go to CWM and use USB Massstorage.
For rooting google a bit :-D
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i mean how to i flash recovery if it doesnt work?
Lololololololololol said:
You got a SD-Card Adapter?
If not go to CWM and use USB Massstorage.
For rooting google a bit :-D
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mass storage doesn not work if it doesnts turn on + i didnt find anything to root a not working phone

[Q] can't enter recovery mode

hello, i have a problem with my galaxy gio...
it is 2.2.1 and i wanted to upgradeit to a newer version.
first i tried to use the stock recovery mode (the one without many options) and so i tryed to install the clockwork recovery.
i forgot to do the root in the first place, so i have done it using superoneclick- the phone is now rooted and superuser is working great!
the only problem is that now every time i try to enter recovery mode it is stuck on the samsung logo.. and then i turn off and on to normal mode...
anybody can help me maybe restore the stock recovery?? or have a different solution??
thank's in advance! veryy much!!
solved )) if anyone meets this problem or a similar one tell me
dxdiadora said:
solved )) if anyone meets this problem or a similar one tell me
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Why don't you just tell us right now, so we won't need to look for you and wait if you are online and stuff.
Dont install CWM on Froyo..
Thats is the problem,2.2.1 is froyo..
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CWM isn't compatible with Froyo... You must upgrade to Ginger to use CWM. But ginger is hard to root with Super one click... So you must flash it! :good:
Flash stock 2.3.6 with Odin, then flash cwm with Odin directly afterwards.
Sent from my Nexus 7
thank you all for tips, i understood why it happened, and solved it by flashing the stock 2.3.6 using odin and then stock recovery apeared and working then i could do everything bec i got the recovery mode back to work!.
dxdiadora said:
hello, i have a problem with my galaxy gio...
it is 2.2.1 and i wanted to upgradeit to a newer version.
first i tried to use the stock recovery mode (the one without many options) and so i tryed to install the clockwork recovery.
i forgot to do the root in the first place, so i have done it using superoneclick- the phone is now rooted and superuser is working great!
the only problem is that now every time i try to enter recovery mode it is stuck on the samsung logo.. and then i turn off and on to normal mode...
anybody can help me maybe restore the stock recovery?? or have a different solution??
thank's in advance! veryy much!!
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Same thing happened to me after i updated super user, it said 'super user signing error' when i accessed CWR from the os, and when i tried to boot it went straight to the OS (cm 7.2) - i fixed it by throwing out the battery for 5 minutes and re installing cm 7.2.

[PLEASE HELP ME FAST] Cant Install ROM and do anything

Hello people, I need help urgently!!!
So, today I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my xperia arc. Later, I installed Team Win Recovery v2.4.3.0 via fastboot cmd...
And then problems started :
Now i am stuck at KangXperiaProject bringing aokp to xperia logo. After that, I just get blank cellphone screen...
I tryed installing roms, but when they finish, i reboot the phone and the same happens. Tryed wiping everything but still the same...
I can't connect my phone to SEUS, it doesnt find my xperia arc....
PLEASE HELP ME, BECAUSE I NEED MY PHONE FOR TOMORROW URGENTLY!!!!
PLEASE, HELP ME PEOPLE
glefor said:
Hello people, I need help urgently!!!
So, today I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my xperia arc. Later, I installed Team Win Recovery v2.4.3.0 via fastboot cmd...
And then problems started :
Now i am stuck at KangXperiaProject bringing aokp to xperia logo. After that, I just get blank cellphone screen...
I tryed installing roms, but when they finish, i reboot the phone and the same happens. Tryed wiping everything but still the same...
I can't connect my phone to SEUS, it doesnt find my xperia arc....
PLEASE HELP ME, BECAUSE I NEED MY PHONE FOR TOMORROW URGENTLY!!!!
PLEASE, HELP ME PEOPLE
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Flash another kernel and another ROM.
Make sure they are compatible.
Which kernel and ROM are you trying to use?
You must not use SEUS if your bootloader is unlocked. You might brick your device.
Try using flashtool. Get into fastboot mode and flash custom kernel like LuPuS which already has CWM recovery. And then you can fash custom rom you want using Install ZIP from sdcard option in CWM.
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Try this
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297649
Same thing happened to me so I wrote a guide of howto fix
I fixed my problem with flashtool help, now I am with stock iCS rom.
And I have another problem... :
I rooted my phone and now I downloaded x-Parts from GooglePlay market. I installed cwm with it, but when I try option to boot to recovery, it just doesn't boot. It restarts my phone as normal.
Also, tryed with voice_down button but still - no luck.
Maybe anyone know how to fix cwm problem?
Thanks...
glefor said:
I fixed my problem with flashtool help, now I am with stock iCS rom.
And I have another problem... :
I rooted my phone and now I downloaded x-Parts from GooglePlay market. I installed cwm with it, but when I try option to boot to recovery, it just doesn't boot. It restarts my phone as normal.
Also, tryed with voice_down button but still - no luck.
Maybe anyone know how to fix cwm problem?
Thanks...
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Try reinstall CWM, or try other recovery
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Try pressing back key instead of volume down. This will work.
Cheers!!
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glefor said:
I fixed my problem with flashtool help, now I am with stock iCS rom.
And I have another problem... :
I rooted my phone and now I downloaded x-Parts from GooglePlay market. I installed cwm with it, but when I try option to boot to recovery, it just doesn't boot. It restarts my phone as normal.
Also, tryed with voice_down button but still - no luck.
Maybe anyone know how to fix cwm problem?
Thanks...
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since you unlocked your bootloader you can just flash a custom kernel which will have root/recovery

[Q] Desperate need of help!!!

My phone is not booting into recovery at all, when I hold down the vol up + home + power it just loops. It keeps giving me a message about my kernel. I know there are a lot of other threads regarding looping issues, but are still able to get into recovery. I've spent hours trying everything I have come across that might seem to work and nothing has. Does anyone know of a way to use Odin from a PC to fix this issue?? I attached a screen shot of the files so far that I have tried using through Odin on my computer and a couple others. I'm very desperate at this point for any advice!! Thanks...
Anonymous777 said:
My phone is not booting into recovery at all, when I hold down the vol up + home + power it just loops. It keeps giving me a message about my kernel. I know there are a lot of other threads regarding looping issues, but are still able to get into recovery. I've spent hours trying everything I have come across that might seem to work and nothing has. Does anyone know of a way to use Odin from a PC to fix this issue?? I attached a screen shot of the files so far that I have tried using through Odin on my computer and a couple others. I'm very desperate at this point for any advice!! Thanks...
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have you updated to the kitkat bootloader. if you have and try to use the cf root made for our device the recovery is no longer usable. google search cf auto root for n9005 kitkat. that one works though it will install the recovery for the n9005 but is functional other than that i would say go to sammobile.com and make an account (free) then download wich ever version you had running wether it be 4.3 or 4.4 then use 7zip and extract the recover.img then flash that using odin.....
Anonymous777 said:
My phone is not booting into recovery at all, when I hold down the vol up + home + power it just loops. It keeps giving me a message about my kernel. I know there are a lot of other threads regarding looping issues, but are still able to get into recovery. I've spent hours trying everything I have come across that might seem to work and nothing has. Does anyone know of a way to use Odin from a PC to fix this issue?? I attached a screen shot of the files so far that I have tried using through Odin on my computer and a couple others. I'm very desperate at this point for any advice!! Thanks...
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I accidentally up loaded a wrong photo, disregard the Cyanogen picture
Anonymous777 said:
My phone is not booting into recovery at all, when I hold down the vol up + home + power it just loops. It keeps giving me a message about my kernel. I know there are a lot of other threads regarding looping issues, but are still able to get into recovery. I've spent hours trying everything I have come across that might seem to work and nothing has. Does anyone know of a way to use Odin from a PC to fix this issue?? I attached a screen shot of the files so far that I have tried using through Odin on my computer and a couple others. I'm very desperate at this point for any advice!! Thanks...
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Give step by step of what you did. Every step.
TWEAKED N3
stash9123 said:
have you updated to the kitkat bootloader. if you have and try to use the cf root made for our device the recovery is no longer usable. google search cf auto root for n9005 kitkat. that one works though it will install the recovery for the n9005 but is functional other than that i would say go to sammobile.com and make an account (free) then download wich ever version you had running wether it be 4.3 or 4.4 then use 7zip and extract the recover.img then flash that using odin.....
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No I haven't tried that yet. I will try for sure. Thank you for the advice I appreciate it!
BACARDILIMON said:
Give step by step of what you did. Every step.
TWEAKED N3
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I used the ROM Installer app and downloaded the Pac-Man Rom + Gapps, booted into recovery (using twrp.) I then wiped the data, cache, dalvik, and then tried installing the zip files i had downloaded. It would at first just reboot my phone normally and so I downloaded the a aokp Rom off the internet and onto my flash drive, then used a cable to attach both the phone and drive and tried installing the Aokp ROM. That then put my into a loop, I was able to get out of it by using Odin and flashing the openrecoverytwrp.2.6.3.0.img which got me booting back to normal. Sooo I then tried again and then lost the option of getting into recovery.
Their ROM is 4.4. What boot loader do you have. Did you update to kit Kat?
Anonymous777 said:
I used the ROM Installer app and downloaded the Pac-Man Rom + Gapps, booted into recovery (using twrp.) I then wiped the data, cache, dalvik, and then tried installing the zip files i had downloaded. It would at first just reboot my phone normally and so I downloaded the a aokp Rom off the internet and onto my flash drive, then used a cable to attach both the phone and drive and tried installing the Aokp ROM. That then put my into a loop, I was able to get out of it by using Odin and flashing the openrecoverytwrp.2.6.3.0.img which got me booting back to normal. Sooo I then tried again and then lost the option of getting into recovery.
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4.4 or 4.3
TWEAKED N3
BACARDILIMON said:
4.4 or 4.3
TWEAKED N3
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I'm on 4.4 now...
Anonymous777 said:
I'm on 4.4 now...
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OK do this go to sammiemobile get the factory stock. Flash thru Odin. Then reboot make sure it stock. Download to your PC the ROM you want. Cf auto root and the recovery you like for kit Kat. Don't use any app to download anything. Once you set. Then do the cfautoroot. Let that cycle. Then flash recovery thru Odin. Then reboot. Then power down and reboot into recovery . it works .good. Boot up then add ROM to SD reboot recovery and flash. Done.
Factory wipe before going stock.
TWEAKED N3
BACARDILIMON said:
OK do this go to sammiemobile get the factory stock. Flash thru Odin. Then reboot make sure it stock. Download to your PC the ROM you want. Cf auto root and the recovery you like for kit Kat. Don't use any app to download anything. Once you set. Then do the cfautoroot. Let that cycle. Then flash recovery thru Odin. Then reboot. Then power down and reboot into recovery . it works .good. Boot up then add ROM to SD reboot recovery and flash. Done.
Factory wipe before going stock.
TWEAKED N3
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Okay cool I'll give that a try, thank you!
Anonymous777 said:
Okay cool I'll give that a try, thank you!
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Make sure you use the proper cf auto root and cwm or twrp
TWEAKED N3
You don't keep holding those buttons when the red and blue and yellow words pop up do you? Our phone allows us to hold the power button for about 6 seconds and it will reboot.
Let up off those buttons you're holding when trying to boot into recovery as soon as you see the blue and red and yellow writing.
The blue writing states that you're already booting Into recovery.
Tl;dr You're holding the buttons too long after it reboots. Let off them.
Eek, I just read the steps you tried to resolve this. Sorry you had to go through that. I don't think that was your issue, but I just thought I'd throw my 2cents in
BTW if this is not the case, then disregard please.
☆sent from a kitkat powered sm-n900t w/tapatalk☆
BACARDILIMON said:
Make sure you use the proper cf auto root and cwm or twrp
TWEAKED N3
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I did exactly what you said and it worked! I appreciate your help!!!!!! I just downloaded the stock firmware and my phone booted back to factory settings. I haven't rooted it yet. I have a few different cf auto root files, is this the correct one CF-Auto-Root-hlte-htlexx-smn9005.tar.md5?
Just out of curiosity, which back up do you prefer cwm or twrp?
cuezaireekaa said:
You don't keep holding those buttons when the red and blue and yellow words pop up do you? Our phone allows us to hold the power button for about 6 seconds and it will reboot.
Let up off those buttons you're holding when trying to boot into recovery as soon as you see the blue and red and yellow writing.
The blue writing states that you're already booting Into recovery.
Tl;dr You're holding the buttons too long after it reboots. Let off them.
Eek, I just read the steps you tried to resolve this. Sorry you had to go through that. I don't think that was your issue, but I just thought I'd throw my 2cents in
BTW if this is not the case, then disregard please.
☆sent from a kitkat powered sm-n900t w/tapatalk☆
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Yeah it's all good, I got it fixed finally. I'm not exactly sure what my issue was I'm just glad it's working. I tend to try different things with my phone or phones i've had in the past without, I just wasn't careful enough to what I was doing I guess. Are you running cm ROM on your N3?
Anonymous777 said:
I did exactly what you said and it worked! I appreciate your help!!!!!! I just downloaded the stock firmware and my phone booted back to factory settings. I haven't rooted it yet. I have a few different cf auto root files, is this the correct one CF-Auto-Root-hlte-htlexx-smn9005.tar.md5?
Just out of curiosity, which back up do you prefer cwm or twrp?
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Yup that is the right cf auto root. I have flashed both recovery thru Odin. Work great both times. I used cwm up until 3 days ago. Switched because one of my friends was having issues and wanted to make sure it was not a recovery thing. Been on twrp and it good. Glad I could help you. Enjoy the greatness of this phone.
TWEAKED N3
Dam it i got the same problem but i really can't boot into recovery or download mode. Anyone know how i can adb into download mode?
Edit: Figured it out... thank god.
Just a heads up. Next time to save time of a huge file download. Just download another Recovery for your device. You flashed a corrupt recovery which caused your phone to not go into recovery at all. Always ensure the model # matches yours also.
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Also flashing CF-Auto Root does not help a bad recovery fix, it just roots your phone, so you flashing CF AutoRoot was of no use at that point.
alvin14 said:
Just a heads up. Next time to save time of a huge file download. Just download another Recovery for your device. You flashed a corrupt recovery which caused your phone to not go into recovery at all. Always ensure the model # matches yours also.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Also flashing CF-Auto Root does not help a bad recovery fix, it just roots your phone, so you flashing CF AutoRoot was of no use at that point.
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The reason he got the bootloop was cause cf root does it. That is why he needed to download the cf auto root euro version.
TWEAKED N3
BACARDILIMON said:
The reason he got the bootloop was cause cf root does it. That is why he needed to download the cf auto root euro version.
TWEAKED N3
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I don't think its that. If it is their post should be in the International Note 3 9005 thread, not T-Mobiles thread, and seeing that they have been rooted before ( i know because thats the only way they could reboot to recovery with rom manager) they must have used the n900t CF AutoRoot which is correct if the person have the T-Mobile version. Reading through and seeing that they never confirmed or have been asked for their phone model, just the second post person suggesting stuff for the 9005 without questions, since he/she said they haven't rooted yet after successfully booting up from the stock flash, he/she haven't used the 9005 Auto Root as yet which I think they shouldn't as they might brick their phone. His recovery went bad after he flashed the wrong recovery to their phone.
alvin14 said:
I don't think its that. If it is their post should be in the International Note 3 9005 thread, not T-Mobiles thread, and seeing that they have been rooted before ( i know because thats the only way they could reboot to recovery with rom manager) they must have used the n900t CF AutoRoot which is correct if the person have the T-Mobile version. Reading through and seeing that they never confirmed or have been asked for their phone model, just the second post person suggesting stuff for the 9005 without questions, since he/she said they haven't rooted yet after successfully booting up from the stock flash, he/she haven't used the 9005 Auto Root as yet which I think they shouldn't as they might brick their phone. His recovery went bad after he flashed the wrong recovery to their phone.
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Let's agree to disagree. But if you check chainfires tweet he even said to use the cf euro version because it plays right with the TMOBILE. I have helped may bootloopers with just changing the root method. Just ask the op. He tried just the recovery with bootloops. And it was the right one cause he used the one I used.
TWEAKED N3

Brick? Stuck on Boot

Hi Guys,
i need your help because i'm stuck on boot with my HTC 10. I received the phone today and was very exited to use and mod it.
What i've done:
- Unlocked Bootloader
- Flashed Recovery
- Flashed SuperSU
- Flashed Xposed
- Installed some Modules > Everything fine till then
- Installed a third module, reboot and now i'm stuck in boot with a green htc logo
No i'm a little bit lost because i have a encrypted system partition and no microsd card to restore from...
Do you have any suggestion for me how to get out of this? Will a adb push 1.30.401.1_twrp.zip (leedroids Backup) to the /sdcard folder work?
Thanks!
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I'm like 90% sure that if you repeatedly press the volume buttons during boot it will disable xposed which should hopefully let you get into the system and remove that problematic module.
starbase64 said:
Same problem here, twrp brick the phone.
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What do you mean with twrp brick the phone? No chance to recover?
i've flashed twrp and my phone stuck in bootlogo, and can't get to recovery or donwload mode.
edit: after countless tries i could flash back stock recovery and device is booting now
jaredkzr said:
I'm like 90% sure that if you repeatedly press the volume buttons during boot it will disable xposed which should hopefully let you get into the system and remove that problematic module.
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Hm, i tried that...repeatedly pressed every hardwarebutton i have. I've also tried to hold each button, no luck
@starbase64 My Recovery and Download Mode is still working, my problems are related to xposed i think
edit: will it help to flash stock recovery? and recover from there?
Well that didn't take long, lol.
DaRusko said:
Hm, i tried that...repeatedly pressed every hardwarebutton i have. I've also tried to hold each button, no luck
@starbase64 My Recovery and Download Mode is still working, my problems are related to xposed i think
edit: will it help to flash stock recovery? and recover from there?
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There should be a zip available to disable xposed thus the installed MOD. Check the official xposed threat
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DaRusko said:
Hi Guys,
i need your help because i'm stuck on boot with my HTC 10. I received the phone today and was very exited to use and mod it.
What i've done:
- Unlocked Bootloader
- Flashed Recovery
- Flashed SuperSU
- Flashed Xposed
- Installed some Modules > Everything fine till then
- Installed a third module, reboot and now i'm stuck in boot with a green htc logo
No i'm a little bit lost because i have a encrypted system partition and no microsd card to restore from...
Do you have any suggestion for me how to get out of this? Will a adb push 1.30.401.1_twrp.zip (leedroids Backup) to the /sdcard folder work?
Thanks!
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try flashing stock boot.img
twistednl said:
There should be a zip available to disable xposed thus the installed MOD. Check the official xposed threat
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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That did the trick, i've flashed the uninstaller and the phone booted again [emoji16] thank you very much!
holywhitebread said:
Well that didn't take long, lol.
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Lol....I was thinking the same thing when I saw the name of the thread.
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Always have a backup plan and a backup of that.
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@DaRusko
my phone works fine now and xposed also. use the latest framework (03May16): http://dl-xda.xposed.info/framework/sdk23/arm64/
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@jollywhitefoot
good idea
starbase64 said:
i've flashed twrp and my phone stuck in bootlogo, and can't get to recovery or donwload mode.
edit: after countless tries i could flash back stock recovery and device is booting now
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Hello Starbase64
Can you tell me how do you manage to flash back stock recovery? my htc is stuck in Bootloader! :crying:
Thanks for your help!
HTC 10
Bootloader: Unlocked
S-OFF
I had similar situation, when booting phone was stuck with the green HTC logo. When I want to reboot in download mode, it was restarting each time after I see the gray HTC logo there.
Taking off the sim card and SD card and then rebooting worked for me. Than I put the card back in and was able to install new rom and turn on my phone.
ToffieBoi said:
I had similar situation, when booting phone was stuck with the green HTC logo. When I want to reboot in download mode, it was restarting each time after I see the gray HTC logo there.
Taking off the sim card and SD card and then rebooting worked for me. Than I put the card back in and was able to install new rom and turn on my phone.
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Ok...not sure what happened...because I KNOW I was in another thread. But, whatever. Ignore.

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