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[Q] How many people wanted removable storage on a Galaxy Nexus?

Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.

I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.

I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.

Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.

The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.

If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.

i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol

Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
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dragonzsoul said:
less moving parts = less things to break
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.

Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.

SomeGuyDude said:
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.

Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
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fdm1 said:
Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.

blunden said:
You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN

what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?

I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
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still hope
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true

i dont care about SD suport.

streets814 said:
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
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USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net

Preorder 32/64 GB

The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks

MartinDLawliet said:
The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.

djfuego said:
Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Because I choose to buy a 64GB version. I didn't ask which one I should get, I asked where I could find those versions. Anyway most high end Android phones can all be overclocked. Like One X or S III. People run them at 1.8GHz without issues.

djfuego said:
Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Your storage space issue is for me the easiest to answer. I am an extensive user of audio books. The teaching company series, Will Durant's seminal 12 volume series, podcasts, science fiction audio... Asimov, Huxley, Clarke, current fiction, "Why the West Rules for Now" (i highly recommend by the way) is how i keep sane on morning and evening commutes. I have a 16gb g-note and a 64gb SD card and i use all of this storage. Samsung's release of a new 128gb SD card will be none to soon, and if it cannot be utilized on my current note, it will most likely spur me to buy the note 2 with 2 GB ram and 64 GB SD internal. I also can access and stream from my collection on my home server but my at&t "unlimited" isn't, so i use WiFi whenever possible. This means that i use the phones memory as a cache buffer to limit my telecoms' leverage. Concerning speed. I am currently testing an incredible voice control app called Utter. Extremely flexible, configurable and powerful. Coupled with Ivona voice the results are simply stunning. I am also running a custom JellyBean rom called slimbean that is half the size of ice cream, is overclocked at 1.8 ghz and is as smooth as a baby's butt. I've been overclocking and flashing roms since i joined xda, its why i joined xda. I understand your credulity, we do still call these devices phones after all. i am also aware that my setup and usage is not typical, yet it is just this flexibility of android and current Samsung products that make them so attractive people like us with such differing needs and views.
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To the Op, i am keeping my eye out for the larger 32/64 internal storage versions and will let you know if i stumble on a release date reference. Thanks for starting this thread
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Every time someone responds to a person who asks about when a model with a larger storage will be out with the "you don't need that much" line, or something like that, they should get an infraction.

Hotobu said:
Every time someone responds to a person who asks about when a model with a larger storage will be out with the "you don't need that much" line, or something like that, they should get an infraction.
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3 strike policy, and you're out of XDA, haha

First time i heard the "you don't need that much.... " line was when i opted for a 10MB hard drive for my then new spanking hot PC AT. It had a 16bit processor and 512kb of ram...my buddy had the
commodore 64 (64 KB of ram and a cassette based memory). Despite his lack of technical sense, we remain friends to this day. Unsurprisingly, he favors that other phone ecosystem....the glass jewelry ones with those little screens. He still freaks out when he sees my note. His first words? Yeah, you guessed it; " you don't need that much..." I notice his wife checking it out though... So maybe there is some justice in this life
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You only get to see the true value of a decision if you get to live with it.
I had friends that laughed at me s3 about its size. Now one of thes ( a .... girl! ) got one for free
Her first reaction was "un#@#$ing believable... i was blind and now i saw!"
Same thing with 2nd battery. People give 500+$ for a phone and they don't get an extra battery and a charger.
If i borrow them mine for a few days they get to "see the light"
Same thing with sd cards. From 16 to 32 and from there to 64gb they were telling me what you will do with all that space for ?
Guess what? Its usually full.
So i ll be waiting for the 32gb at least , i dont believe we will see a 64gb version sadly
We might need to wait for a month or so to get it

64gb + 64gb
I have about 80GB of mp3 files which I want to carry around with me. I have several GB more of pictures I have a Galaxy S3 with 32GB internal and a 64GB card, and it's getting crowded. And I'll keep adding more files. Maybe one day I'll be comfortable with keeping this in "the cloud", or streaming it from HDs in my house, but right now I want it all on my phone.
Right now Samsung's web page only mentions a 16GB version for US carriers. I definitely won't buy that.
I agree with the philosophy of not questioning why someone wants the storage they want.

It is already available for pre-order on some sites (handyshop.de) by an exorbitant price of 899 eur and a delivery date at the end of October...

MartinDLawliet said:
The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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I was wondering the same as well. I just ordered my Note 2, but am wondering about the storage. I have a 16GB Nexus 7 and have found that with no music/videos/picutres stored, I cannot download all of my apps without getting a low storage warning.
Anyone have issues with downloading around 200 apps on a 16GB Note 2? I know you can add an SD Card, but that doesnt help with app storage, correct? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

022908ali said:
I was wondering the same as well. I just ordered my Note 2, but am wondering about the storage. I have a 16GB Nexus 7 and have found that with no music/videos/picutres stored, I cannot download all of my apps without getting a low storage warning.
Anyone have issues with downloading around 200 apps on a 16GB Note 2? I know you can add an SD Card, but that doesnt help with app storage, correct? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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just wait and purchased highest memory storage device.. 16gb will give you actually 11gb and which will spent very fast..
I am going to sell my 16gb note 2 soon.. its worthless as we cant install apps on external SDCard

Transferring Apps to SD

I know Apps2SD application doesnt support our phone but is there really no other way aside from rooting?
Why did Samsung even removed this function. Is it Samsung's intention?
I have 64GB Micro SD and I cant even maximize its use. I only got about 3GB left in my phone storage.

jinda628 said:
I know Apps2SD application doesnt support our phone but is there really no other way aside from rooting?
Why did Samsung even removed this function. Is it Samsung's intention?
I have 64GB Micro SD and I cant even maximize its use. I only got about 3GB left in my phone storage.
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I hadn't owened my Note II more than 10 days before I ran out of memory! I finally had a phone capable of playing graphic intense games only to find that I would have to delete one to install another. Madness. I have heard people mention that it has to do with multi-user security but I don't buy that. My complaints, assumptions and opinions seem to have fallen onto deaf ears. Few seem to care surprisingly. They probably use their phone to call people
I have suggested in other post that we start a campaign to force Samsung/Google to change this but like I said. Few seem to care.
What worries me most is that this may scare off game developers. Something that will seriously harm android.
I have a theory that Google have a console in the making and are worried that it's sales will suffer if powerful pkones like ours are upgraded in two years and then used as consoles and media devices in the games room.

There was an article that was posted a while back stating why this was done, and while I can't find the exact article at the moment if memory serves correctly it basically it had to do with the user becoming confused with how the phone would handle storage.
For example, there was a time when you'd have let's say 8 GB of storage being marketed, with 2 GB of it being partitioned for apps and the rest partitioned for user data (pictures, videos, music, and so forth). However, this divide in the way that storage space was handled wasn't really unveiled to the user unless they knew where to look, so many people would wind up quickly filling the 2 GB of storage that was designated specifically for apps and then wonder why the heck they were out of space.
So with newer devices (I believe this started with the Galaxy Nexus?), the partitioning scheme allows for apps to use the entire available memory space (that hasn't been claimed by the system or what not, for example a 16 GB device will usually have ~10.5-12 GB of usable space that the user can access). However, devices such as the Galaxy S III and the Note II map the internal memory as if it were an SD card (hence why it's mounted at /sdcard, and the external SD card is now at /extSDcard).
There are solutions that you can use, for example Directory Bind is one of them (search for it on the forums), however it does require root. I really don't think there are any other ways around this at the moment for those who are running stock & unrooted.

Hmm. I'm not really familiar with rooting. I haven't done it before. I think I can follow procedures as I used to do that on my BB long time before I moved to android.
Are there any drawbacks in rooting? I read one time that S-pen functionality will be gone?

S-pen will still work, along with wi-fi calling snd everything else. The only functionality you lose is OTA (over-the-air) updates.
You should check out the "How to root T889 +Counter reset +Unroot+ Stock firmware" thread on the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1955423
I successfully rooted my phone. You can still use the stock rom if you're hesitant about custom ones.
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[Q] Upgrade Samsung Galaxy S2 to NOTE II or keep SG2 and get ipad mini?

before you answer my question please consider the pros and cons and research i have done about both devices.
Note II:
uk has the 16gb model available ONLY and the only way to get the larger capacity models is to import, this option does not seem viable and is expensive at the time especially when import tax is in this equation too (the cost would be so expensive, i might as well get a 64gb iphone 5 for that price it would cost me)
just like i had the experience with my note 10.1 16gb is simply not enough, for apps and games, rooting my tablet has not made my situation any better, i thought a easy option of simply transferring the app data to sd card would be simple, hence why i want to avoid this hassle with the note 2 and just keep my samsung galaxy S2 which lets you move app data without root and hassle.
micro sd card prices are currently ridiculous especially for a samsung 64gb one (£60), a genuine sandisk on amazon is sold out, i do not want to buy from a 3rd party only to find that the memory card is fake, so that is another risk with the note 2.
even if i ever do find a micro sd there is not much i can do with it on current Samsung phone models anyway, yes i can transfer my music but can't do much with it, even with root.
the screen size of the note 2 is a good overall size and still fits in your pocket, the stylus pen is a bonus for me, i like using it on the note 10.1 so i would enjoy using it on the note 2, i know the screen will be good as the note 10.1 plus i have used a demo unit of the note 2 aswell and liked the screen.
micro sim, my current sim is a normal sim, i know there are devices that cut it down to size for you though.
i tried to find as much info as i can about the music features of the note 2, there was only one video available that showcased this but it was extremely limited, asked questions to uploader and as always was ignored i like the fact that i can use any app to change everything i want about the note 2 music player, the default player did not have a lot of options for music at all, no info regarding sound quality on headphone jack either, it really doesn't make it easier to choose the note 2, if anyone wants to add their experience about the music features then please do so.
Ipad mini:
memory is built in and included in the price of the device and you don't even need to buy it separate, larger screen size, better music management, better apps optimized for ipad/ipad mini, yes i am aware it has no retina display but that is what my note 10.1 is for, besides i will be mainly be using it for a mp3 player anyway.
i like to browse the internet on the go so getting a ipod touch 5g is not a option because the screen is way to small to type anything or see anything, i am used to large screen sizes anyway.
i held the ipad mini in my hand and liked the form factor of it and matt finish, the screen is good enough for me and i like the music features too which i tested out on the apple store. (same as note 2 music features are not discussed online and no youtube videos either which is a shame)

Ipad mini....
Ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahshahahahahahahahahaha
You made my day.
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yeah i knew i would get the usual fanboy answer, did you even read my post or not? if not don't waste my time.
i would LOVE to get a note 2 but there are way to many negatives that are holding it down, replying is such a childish manner is not going to help me or this topic at all.

Bro don't go for ipad mini its a true piece of ****... note2 is better.. i m not i sammy fanboy i myself have 4s,galaxy r,note 2 and two ipad 3 u can buy ipad 3 instead but don't buy ipad mini...
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if u want better headphone volume or even more speaker volume there are mods to do that no worries.. u can customize the way u want.. if u buy note 2 rather than ipad mini it will b good u won't regret:thumbup:

You already have a Note 10.1, so that's the tablet you are using for your browsing.
You mentioned you like the form factor of the Mini. Did you not consider the Nexus 7 if you're digging the 7-8inch tablets? The Nexus 7 is cheaper by about 40%, and has higher specs.
I own both the S2, and the Note 2, and as objectively as I can tell you, you should upgrade to a Note 2, go to your carrier and swap your SIM with a microSIM.
If you really want a 7inch tablet. Sell your Note 10.1, and use the money to get a Nexus 7, the rest of the money could be used in conjunction with the sale of your S2, for a Note 2.
You have not researched enough of what possibilities the external SD card can do.
Me for example. I have switched the intSD with the extSD via a custom Kernel. So my phone shows 64GB of storage. And my extSD shows 16GB.
So storage for your phone is not a problem. The best Sandisk SD cards can be bought for £40. 64GB class 10.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007JTKM30/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00 this is the one I bought, and it's genuine.

Kartik pat said:
Bro don't go for ipad mini its a true piece of ****... note2 is better.. i m not i sammy fanboy i myself have 4s,galaxy r,note 2 and two ipad 3 u can buy ipad 3 instead but don't buy ipad mini...
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if u want better headphone volume or even more speaker volume there are mods to do that no worries.. u can customize the way u want.. if u buy note 2 rather than ipad mini it will b good u won't regret:thumbup:
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i already have a samsung galaxy note 10.1 for tablet use i don't need another big tablet, i need a tablet sized mp3 player on the go, if you want me to buy a note 2 can you give me advice on what to do about the negative points then? also if you have any info about the music features please share your experience.

AjunNg said:
You already have a Note 10.1, so that's the tablet you are using for your browsing.
You mentioned you like the form factor of the Mini. Did you not consider the Nexus 7 if you're digging the 7-8inch tablets? The Nexus 7 is cheaper by about 40%, and has higher specs.
I own both the S2, and the Note 2, and as objectively as I can tell you, you should upgrade to a Note 2, go to your carrier and swap your SIM with a microSIM.
If you really want a 7inch tablet. Sell your Note 10.1, and use the money to get a Nexus 7, the rest of the money could be used in conjunction with the sale of your S2, for a Note 2.
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the nexus 7 is a nice tablet but doesn't have expandable memory i want to use it as a mp3 player as well as internet on the go, yes i am aware of it's specs and they are impressive but no expandable memory lets it down, the note 2 is a better option in this case, also i want to keep my note 10.1 and i want a mini tablet on the go too so i don't want to sell the note 10.1 thanks.
i like the tariff that i am using on my normal sim card, i have unlimited HSPA+ data and 300 minutes free anytime on any network, you can't get that tariff on a micro sim that is why i need to cut down my sim card if i do decide to get a note 2.

What music features are there ipad mini?? Can u please elaborate?

HUYI said:
before you answer my question please consider the pros and cons and research i have done about both devices.
Note II:
uk has the 16gb model available ONLY and the only way to get the larger capacity models is to import, this option does not seem viable and is expensive at the time especially when import tax is in this equation too (the cost would be so expensive, i might as well get a 64gb iphone 5 for that price it would cost me)
just like i had the experience with my note 10.1 16gb is simply not enough, for apps and games, rooting my tablet has not made my situation any better, i thought a easy option of simply transferring the app data to sd card would be simple, hence why i want to avoid this hassle with the note 2 and just keep my samsung galaxy S2 which lets you move app data without root and hassle.
micro sd card prices are currently ridiculous especially for a samsung 64gb one (£60), a genuine sandisk on amazon is sold out, i do not want to buy from a 3rd party only to find that the memory card is fake, so that is another risk with the note 2.
even if i ever do find a micro sd there is not much i can do with it on current Samsung phone models anyway, yes i can transfer my music but can't do much with it, even with root.
the screen size of the note 2 is a good overall size and still fits in your pocket, the stylus pen is a bonus for me, i like using it on the note 10.1 so i would enjoy using it on the note 2, i know the screen will be good as the note 10.1 plus i have used a demo unit of the note 2 aswell and liked the screen.
micro sim, my current sim is a normal sim, i know there are devices that cut it down to size for you though.
i tried to find as much info as i can about the music features of the note 2, there was only one video available that showcased this but it was extremely limited, asked questions to uploader and as always was ignored i like the fact that i can use any app to change everything i want about the note 2 music player, the default player did not have a lot of options for music at all, no info regarding sound quality on headphone jack either, it really doesn't make it easier to choose the note 2, if anyone wants to add their experience about the music features then please do so.
Ipad mini:
memory is built in and included in the price of the device and you don't even need to buy it separate, larger screen size, better music management, better apps optimized for ipad/ipad mini, yes i am aware it has no retina display but that is what my note 10.1 is for, besides i will be mainly be using it for a mp3 player anyway.
i like to browse the internet on the go so getting a ipod touch 5g is not a option because the screen is way to small to type anything or see anything, i am used to large screen sizes anyway.
i held the ipad mini in my hand and liked the form factor of it and matt finish, the screen is good enough for me and i like the music features too which i tested out on the apple store. (same as note 2 music features are not discussed online and no youtube videos either which is a shame)
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I have a 64gb Sandisk in my note 2 and it cost £40 link below
http://www.dabs.com/products/sandis...---class10---microsdxc-uhs-i-82S8.html?src=17
I easily map any folders I want to the sd card using a tool like directory bind. 5 min job and very easy to do.
I do like the ipad mini but then again its not a phone as well so you'r not really comparing like with like.

baileyjr said:
I have a 64gb Sandisk in my note 2 and it cost £40 link below
http://www.dabs.com/products/sandis...---class10---microsdxc-uhs-i-82S8.html?src=17
I easily map any folders I want to the sd card using a tool like directory bind. 5 min job and very easy to do.
I do like the ipad mini but then again its not a phone as well so you'r not really comparing like with like.
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ah, thanks for the link! will check out directory bind and see if it does the job, yeah if i keep the samsung galaxy S2 i can just use that for calls and the ipad mini for music and everything else.

Kartik pat said:
What music features are there ipad mini?? Can u please elaborate?
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i can't show that much pictures because like i said before there is little to none info online about the ipod mini music player but it's easy to use because all albums are in one place, playlists ratings feature e.t.c
albums are setup like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
another picture of the music app
it's layed out like itunes, i keep all my music on the pc in itunes and i want similar features to itunes on the go, just a personal preference.

From your first post I can see that you have already made up your mind about the iPad mini. I too tried the iPad mini and I liked how solid it felt in my hands and the finishing is excellent no doubt. But it really comes down to you. As for me I prefer not to carry too many devices all of which can perform the same tasks. My only problem with the iPad mini or any apple product for that matter is the use of iTunes to transfer music. It's a hassle especially when you connect to a friends computer that has no iTunes installed. It just doesn't seem like a truly mobile device because you always end up with the need to be close to a pc. But if you're okay with that then by all means keep your SN2 and get the iPad mini. All the best.
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baileyjr said:
I have a 64gb Sandisk in my note 2 and it cost £40 link below
http://www.dabs.com/products/sandis...---class10---microsdxc-uhs-i-82S8.html?src=17
I easily map any folders I want to the sd card using a tool like directory bind. 5 min job and very easy to do.
I do like the ipad mini but then again its not a phone as well so you'r not really comparing like with like.
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that directory bind did the trick, thanks a lot for that i'm leaning more to the note 2 now because the apps problem has been sorted, see what happens over the next couple of weeks.
i also got to take into consideration that the ipad mini can't be jailbroken yet but a note 2 can be rooted so that is another plus for the note 2.
if anyone wants to add to the topic, please do.

I have an iPad 2,which is the same thing as an iPad mini. Trust me. Do not go towards apple. I have been there for the past 5 years and when I got my note 2,i wanted to slam all my apple products against the wall. Unless you use your iPad for work, you won't touch it.
Phones: iPhone 4 - > iPhone 5 - > Note 2

HUYI said:
before you answer my question please consider the pros and cons and research i have done about both devices.
Note II:
uk has the 16gb model available ONLY and the only way to get the larger capacity models is to import, this option does not seem viable and is expensive at the time especially when import tax is in this equation too (the cost would be so expensive, i might as well get a 64gb iphone 5 for that price it would cost me)
just like i had the experience with my note 10.1 16gb is simply not enough, for apps and games, rooting my tablet has not made my situation any better, i thought a easy option of simply transferring the app data to sd card would be simple, hence why i want to avoid this hassle with the note 2 and just keep my samsung galaxy S2 which lets you move app data without root and hassle.
micro sd card prices are currently ridiculous especially for a samsung 64gb one (£60), a genuine sandisk on amazon is sold out, i do not want to buy from a 3rd party only to find that the memory card is fake, so that is another risk with the note 2.
even if i ever do find a micro sd there is not much i can do with it on current Samsung phone models anyway, yes i can transfer my music but can't do much with it, even with root.
the screen size of the note 2 is a good overall size and still fits in your pocket, the stylus pen is a bonus for me, i like using it on the note 10.1 so i would enjoy using it on the note 2, i know the screen will be good as the note 10.1 plus i have used a demo unit of the note 2 aswell and liked the screen.
micro sim, my current sim is a normal sim, i know there are devices that cut it down to size for you though.
i tried to find as much info as i can about the music features of the note 2, there was only one video available that showcased this but it was extremely limited, asked questions to uploader and as always was ignored i like the fact that i can use any app to change everything i want about the note 2 music player, the default player did not have a lot of options for music at all, no info regarding sound quality on headphone jack either, it really doesn't make it easier to choose the note 2, if anyone wants to add their experience about the music features then please do so.
Ipad mini:
memory is built in and included in the price of the device and you don't even need to buy it separate, larger screen size, better music management, better apps optimized for ipad/ipad mini, yes i am aware it has no retina display but that is what my note 10.1 is for, besides i will be mainly be using it for a mp3 player anyway.
i like to browse the internet on the go so getting a ipod touch 5g is not a option because the screen is way to small to type anything or see anything, i am used to large screen sizes anyway.
i held the ipad mini in my hand and liked the form factor of it and matt finish, the screen is good enough for me and i like the music features too which i tested out on the apple store. (same as note 2 music features are not discussed online and no youtube videos either which is a shame)
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honestly, i'd say the prices of microSD cards are cheap. a year ago it cost me $110AU to buy a 32gb class 10. just recently i bought a 64gb class 10 for $60AU. its a big drop.
and i believe with root, you can actually swap the microSD and internal memory around and trick your device into thinking the microSD is your internal memory partition, so you can install 64gb worth of apps.
just get a sandisk microSD card, theyre a bit faster at the moment.
the note 2 uses the wolfson/wolfsram audio chip, so audio quality is better than s2 and note 1 in terms of clarity. and what are you looking for in terms of music features? the only things i need from a music player are - lock screen widget, equaliser, good playlist support (note 2 lets me make playlists in windows media player on my pc, sync them across, and it will copy all the files across as well as make that playlist available on my note 2), repeat/shuffle. note 2 does most of these things, and i just use the google play music app to add a lockscreen widget.
personally, i'd say if youre using a device mainly for music, then im not too sure why you care so much for internal storage?
note 2 - you either love it or you hate it. just go into a store and play with one.

Souai said:
honestly, i'd say the prices of microSD cards are cheap. a year ago it cost me $110AU to buy a 32gb class 10. just recently i bought a 64gb class 10 for $60AU. its a big drop.
and i believe with root, you can actually swap the microSD and internal memory around and trick your device into thinking the microSD is your internal memory partition, so you can install 64gb worth of apps.
just get a sandisk microSD card, theyre a bit faster at the moment.
the note 2 uses the wolfson/wolfsram audio chip, so audio quality is better than s2 and note 1 in terms of clarity. and what are you looking for in terms of music features? the only things i need from a music player are - lock screen widget, equaliser, good playlist support (note 2 lets me make playlists in windows media player on my pc, sync them across, and it will copy all the files across as well as make that playlist available on my note 2), repeat/shuffle. note 2 does most of these things, and i just use the google play music app to add a lockscreen widget.
personally, i'd say if youre using a device mainly for music, then im not too sure why you care so much for internal storage?
note 2 - you either love it or you hate it. just go into a store and play with one.
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that's good to hear about the audio chip, can you recommend me any good music apps for the note 2? also is there a way to convert your playlists from itunes into android? that is important, also space is very important i have a 32gb music collection so i need a micro sd lol the internal storage will be used for apps and the external will be used for music i can always transfer the app data to a micro sd if it's too big anyway (as i have learned from this topic)

I was also thinking about buying a tablet. But I have bought Note 2 and I am happy I did. You have one device instead of couple. It is more comfortable. do not you think?

Yary12 said:
I was also thinking about buying a tablet. But I have bought Note 2 and I am happy I did. You have one device instead of couple. It is more comfortable. do not you think?
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Hey...I have both devices and I would recommend going for the Note 2, IPad Mini is great but the note 2 is handier and also easier to take anywhere the SPen feature makes it even better and also the USB OTG feauture and MHL are added benefits, if you simply want a tablet that you can just open and go then the IPad is the way to go but if you want something that is more diverse and customisable and a cross between the both and always something new to learn then go for the note 2
also IPad fixed size but Note 2 can be almost any size

HUYI said:
that's good to hear about the audio chip, can you recommend me any good music apps for the note 2? also is there a way to convert your playlists from itunes into android? that is important, also space is very important i have a 32gb music collection so i need a micro sd lol the internal storage will be used for apps and the external will be used for music i can always transfer the app data to a micro sd if it's too big anyway (as i have learned from this topic)
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Doubletwist is the best one i know of, syncs perfectly with iTunes.
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HUYI said:
that's good to hear about the audio chip, can you recommend me any good music apps for the note 2? also is there a way to convert your playlists from itunes into android? that is important, also space is very important i have a 32gb music collection so i need a micro sd lol the internal storage will be used for apps and the external will be used for music i can always transfer the app data to a micro sd if it's too big anyway (as i have learned from this topic)
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not too sure about itunes to android, i never really used itunes, lol.
the two main music apps i use on android are poweramp and google play music. poweramp has a lot more customisability and lockscreen widgets, but does cost money for some added features. google play music has less customisability, but still does everything i want it to do and is free.

What next after the Note 4?

I'm finally getting to the point where I'm tired of not having root and might bite the bullet and spend the couple hundred to early upgrade to another device and I'm kinda out of the loop on what's what now. Maybe you guys have some input? I used to only use the upper-end Samsung phones, but since I'm on Verizon now it's not looking so good (at least with the Note 4). What top-end phone is out there for Verizon that can be rooted and has an external card slot?

Can't speak to if it can be rooted or not but this is what I am going with.

I went with the Nexus 5x. Good price, quick updates, unlocked bootloader, compatible with every US carrier, and more available pocket space. It's a step down in some aspects, but as a hypochondriac, I really shouldn't have access to a pulse oximeter in the first place lol.

well not willing to spend $500+ for a Verizon bloat boat phone, I'm looking at the nexus 5x, nexus 6p, Moto x pure and OnePlus2. All of them will settle my flashing addiction. 6P is a little pricey so I may go with one plus 2. $389 for 64GB version. The only beef I have is it isnt AMOLED.

Ive been looking at getting a nexus 6p, because i really like the screen size of my note 4. Sucks it cannot accept sd cards, and the battery cannot be removed, but with an option of 128mb built in, and how well the internal battery performs on it, it throws those issues out the window for me.

Looks like the Nexus 6P in 128gb would be the most interesting out of those mentioned. It just sucks that with the improvement of the technology, there has to be compromise. Maybe the external memory option is getting dropped because it's getting unused from all the online/cloud services now? I just can't imagine not having ample storage space for NAND backups, app backups, alternate ROMs, etc... And then moving things back and forth to memory. Sure wireless ac is nice, but what about some damn USB 3.0? *sigh*

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Looks like the Nexus 6P in 128gb would be the most interesting out of those mentioned. It just sucks that with the improvement of the technology, there has to be compromise. Maybe the external memory option is getting dropped because it's getting unused from all the online/cloud services now? I just can't imagine not having ample storage space for NAND backups, app backups, alternate ROMs, etc... And then moving things back and forth to memory. Sure wireless ac is nice, but what about some damn USB 3.0? *sigh*
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Well I think a big reason is for the deletion of microSD is room in the phone. They strive for thinner phones with more features. With the online\ cloud space really why do you need a micro sd? You can store the important things on the internal memory and things you don't need to access all the time on the cloud. SD cards are only another thing to go wrong with the phone.
Check out the Elephone phone. It has a SDcard slot. Down side is it has a MediaTek CPU which may hinder custom ROMs.

scarygood536 said:
Well I think a big reason is for the deletion of microSD is room in the phone. They strive for thinner phones with more features. With the online\ cloud space really why do you need a micro sd? You can store the important things on the internal memory and things you don't need to access all the time on the cloud. SD cards are only another thing to go wrong with the phone.
Check out the Elephone phone. It has a SDcard slot. Down side is it has a MediaTek CPU which may hinder custom ROMs.
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I agree, it is another thing that can go wrong with the phone, and I've had plenty of issues with them. It might just be more of an issue of want versus need and what I'm comfortable with. My downtime isn't always places with a good connection to the internet, so the storage space is a lifesaver. I do have one of those thumb drives that has a micro usb port on it, so that might just live in my pocket or something instead.

moto x pure is pretty sweet. keeping my note as a backup though.
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I just ordered a 6P. I'll be keeping this as a backup for sure. I really love this hardware, but I'm getting tired of the issues 5.0.1 carries.
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