[Q] Finally kitkat is available for my note... should I upgrade? - Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

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I don't know whether to upgrade or not..
I'm rooted on stock 4.2.2
My warranty was void since the first day I bought my note 8... I don't have something to worry about..
I'm talking about KNOX.. is there any topics to explain what is it? and what's bootloader?
Will I'm be able to root it again after upgrading? Can I revert back to 4.2.2 if something went wrong?

AhmadLight said:
Hi,
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I don't know whether to upgrade or not..
I'm rooted on stock 4.2.2
My warranty was void since the first day I bought my note 8... I don't have something to worry about..
I'm talking about KNOX.. is there any topics to explain what is it? and what's bootloader?
Will I'm be able to root it again after upgrading? Can I revert back to 4.2.2 if something went wrong?
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Knox is a set of security tools included in the Kitkat update that lock down the device to prevent misuse and modification. This is great in a business/enterprise environment because it means that a company can buy Samsung devices, configure them however they want, and in theory a user is less likely to hack it for themselves.
For those who aren't part of a company or enterprise environment, Knox is a pain. Not only will it prevent you from rooting it (if you don't use the right root method), but it also is aware if you do root or try to flash a custom ROM to it. Included in Knox is a new bootloader (part of the firmware that manages the actual boot process of the device); part of that bootloader is a non-removable, non-editable e-Fuse. The e-Fuse detects if any non-officially signed software is flashed to the device. If it finds anything (Custom recovery, root package, custom ROM), the e-Fuse is permanently tripped and Samsung will no longer touch that device.
The e-Fuse is separate from the flash counter, which CAN be reset with a tool like TriangleAway (Flash counter is exactly what it sounds like; a counter that counts how many times the device is flashed with custom modification).
I realize this isn't an issue for you, as you don't care about the warranty. If you don't, then great! Hack and modify your device all you want to. Root, flash ROMs, modify kernels, do whatever.
I will say that before I upgraded to stock 4.4.2, I did try out a few custom ROMs available for the Note 8.0. I didn't find a single one that really fit the bill for me, and frankly found all of them to be a bit sluggish compared to the stock ROM; a surprising change-up from what I'm used to. I also rely a lot on the S-Pen, which didn't have the functionality I was looking for in any other ROM. So I'm flashing back to stock and upgrading to 4.4.2 so I can use the S-Pen exactly how I'm used to. I too don't worry about the warranty, so if I find a root method that works I'll probably root just so I can have that access, but I probably won't flash another ROM to it.

Sure, though losing writing to the card...
Via my Note 3

I would wait to see if someone can root it. I miss root on my note3 with kk. Otherwise I love it. PGP and programs that need to write while in external just will not work on the new bootloader.
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Just researched and tested stuff out; the same root process as before still works with 4.4.2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980683
So, flash CF-Auto-Root with Odin, update SuperSU after rooting is finished, then disable Knox in SuperSU. I'm assuming updating it right from the Play Store will work just fine, but I'll report back if I have any problems with it. My Note 8.0 is busy updating everything else at the moment :-/
EDIT: Here's a better link for CF-Auto-Root for the N5110:
http://download.chainfire.eu/318/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-konawifi-konawifixx-gtn5110.zip
EDIT: SuperSU finally updated through the Play Store, no problems as anticipated.

As far as updating it's mixed. The multi user is great but loosing the ability to write data to the SD is frustrating. I knew we lost the ability to move apps but I didn't realize we lost the ability to move data. So now my podcasts and maps from Osmond have to set on the tablet. It's not gonna fit.
life is better with r00t

kenhicg said:
As far as updating it's mixed. The multi user is great but loosing the ability to write data to the SD is frustrating. I knew we lost the ability to move apps but I didn't realize we lost the ability to move data. So now my podcasts and maps from Osmond have to set on the tablet. It's not gonna fit.
life is better with r00t
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What's that?? writing to SD isn't allowed without rooting?

no.
Kit kat gave me nothing. It did make my spen offset by an eighth of an inch. It made the handwriting recognition much worse in user interface and functionality. I can no longer disable the service that puts the recommended spen apps in my notification bar. My battery life seems worse but that may be because I reset the tablet and havent configured all the settings yet.
Im researching a way to flash 4.2 back on it. Its hard to find anything on this site but I did find this:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=19789
I have a usa galaxy note wifi version. If anyone with experience sees my post I would greatly appreciate it if you could reply and let me know if if this will work. Im not sure if flashing from kit kat is possible. I don't have any knowledge about this kind of stuff but I can follow directions and I was in love with my tablet before this happened.
Thank you for any help or information. I will update this post once I have decided to make a move towards flashing 4.2 back.

Apps still move to a degree.
Sent via my Note 8

AhmadLight said:
What's that?? writing to SD isn't allowed without rooting?
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Nope doesn't work. Blame Google.
life is better with r00t

Sure. After upgrading to kitkat. I noticed that apps are opening much smoother and quicker resulting in significant improvement in battery life. Also I noticed that there is less heat issue with kitkat as compared to jellybean.
Sent from Death Note

If you want to use an sd card don't do it. I can't even access my music anymore.
Edit well I may have had a bad sd card beacuse everything seems to be ok including move to sd.
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kenhicg said:
If you want to use an sd card don't do it. I can't even access my music anymore.
Edit well I may have had a bad sd card beacuse everything seems to be ok including move to sd.
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You ever get the SPen issue worked out? I updated from a clean install of 4.2.2 and I have had no issues with SPen tracking.

mstrswrd06 said:
You ever get the SPen issue worked out? I updated from a clean install of 4.2.2 and I have had no issues with SPen tracking.
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I've got got hit by the S-Pen issue. Mine is a Canadian Note 8 that went from 4.1.2 directly to 4.4.2. The S-Pen accuracy is now off and for me, that wipes out whatever speed and response benefits may have come with KitKat.

shardsx said:
I've got got hit by the S-Pen issue. Mine is a Canadian Note 8 that went from 4.1.2 directly to 4.4.2. The S-Pen accuracy is now off and for me, that wipes out whatever speed and response benefits may have come with KitKat.
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Does a factory reset fix the problem?

Fortunately I never had an issue with the spen.
life is better with r00t

@kenhicg
Again about writing to SD... I didn't get what you mean??
Wouldn't I be able to move or read data from my SD Card?? What about moving apps to SD?
What I understood is that you'd a problem with your SD card

AhmadLight said:
@kenhicg
Again about writing to SD... I didn't get what you mean??
Wouldn't I be able to move or read data from my SD Card?? What about moving apps to SD?
What I understood is that you'd a problem with your SD card
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They were telling us that their SD card was bad. That's why they were having problems with moving data to and from that card.
I just tested my SD card by copying a small PDF from my card to internal storage, deleting from the card, then copying back from internal storage back to the card. Worked fine; I used Root Browser.
Then again, I don't use my SD card for apps or Android data. So I'm not fully testing it, but just a quick read/copy/delete/write worked fine with that PDF I used.

newbiechris said:
Kit kat gave me nothing. It did make my spen offset by an eighth of an inch. It made the handwriting recognition much worse in user interface and functionality. I can no longer disable the service that puts the recommended spen apps in my notification bar. My battery life seems worse but that may be because I reset the tablet and havent configured all the settings yet.
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I would pay money to be able to revert back to 4.1.2 (I'm in Canada, we never got 4.2.2.). l also have the s pen offset issue and questionable battery life, although I've only done a couple of charges since upgrading. Hate the new handwriting input panel. I actually did use the page buddy features when I took out the s pen or plugged in my headphones. Very annoyed that this feature has been removed. Another peeve is that whenever the pen is just hovering over the screen, the menu and back touch keys light up. l had to shut the lights off entirely to keep them from coming on every time I moved the pen.
For all the hype about Kitkat, I really don't see much difference other than things that now don't work properly.

AhmadLight said:
Hi,
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I don't know whether to upgrade or not..
I'm rooted on stock 4.2.2
My warranty was void since the first day I bought my note 8... I don't have something to worry about..
I'm talking about KNOX.. is there any topics to explain what is it? and what's bootloader?
Will I'm be able to root it again after upgrading? Can I revert back to 4.2.2 if something went wrong?
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i upgraded just for civato's kitkat rom. i like kitkat. i see marked improvement from jelly bean. but maybe that's just me. and absolutely not, you will brick your note if you try to downgrade to a 4.2.2 touchwiz rom. i think you could downgrade to an aosp 4.2.2 (don't quote me on that) but it's a totally different experience.
if you insist on staying stock a large offset to the s pen's accuracy comes with the upgrade. civato's rom and kernel fixes that though.
AhmadLight said:
@kenhicg
What I understood is that you'd a problem with your SD card
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i have a lot of apps on my 64gb sd card with no issues.
EDIT: though again, i must stress, i am running a custom rom. i cannot speak for stock, but i am happy with my decision.

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[Q] Insufficient storage available-Installation errors & other aggravations?

Hey all, I've been getting "Insufficient storage available - Installation errors" on my EVO 4G eventhough I have a 32GB sdcard (but only 30MB of internal storage & yes I've moved all existing installed possible apps to sdcard, cleared caches & unmounted-remounted sdcard), what's the best way to resolve this?
I'm still running 2.2 unrooted but considering rooting soon & maybe cm7 or other rom but I'm not sure I want to risk issues when I need it working..
Also notice it is slow to respond upon reboot, maybe due to apps trying to update but encountering the insufficient storage available installation error..
-Appreciate helpful replies
BumpBump..
Dude you need to be rooted and switch rom bc stock evo don't allow you to place Apps on sd card, even with the apps2sd application
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You can try formatting your sd card. Also you should obtain S-OFF asap while you still have 2.2. I read a few threads about people's phones auto updating and now they are SOL!! Even if you don't flash a new rom you can get S-OFF b4 its too late. Get S-Off and ruu back to stock at least...
smartboy36 said:
Dude you need to be rooted and switch rom bc stock evo don't allow you to place Apps on sd card, even with the apps2sd application
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Not true. It just doesn't let you move all of them.
OP, rooting is going to give you some options, notably the ability to use an ext partition for your apps and/or dalvik cache. How many apps do you have? Even if every app were movable to SD (which of course it isn't), dalvik cache will eat up space on your /data partition. This is basically an optimized version of each installed application's code, and it can eat up as much as 1-2 MB per app. It's not listed in the app's storage usage under Settings -> Applications, and you can't do anything about it if you're not rooted.
Of course, another thing to look at is whether any apps are using excessive amounts of data. For example, I use Good messaging from work, and I have to clear data about once a month because the app accumulates data that never goes away. There's no option to purge or limit the amount of email it stores locally from within the app, and it stores big log files too.
Dude I'm on kings Alliance and I have 150 Apps with room for more. Come to the alliance and don't worry again
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This phone should've had more space for apps anyhow. Lol
I tried a new card today, same crap, I have about 100 apps..
jayare313 said:
This phone should've had more space for apps anyhow. Lol
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Totally agree especially since it was originally released with 2.1, I got it the day the Nexus S was released which I seriously considered but since I use it a lot for Nav preferred EVO's larger screen & louder speaker.
I've been tempted to root & custom ROM since even before I got it but every time I read about brick risk I become less inspired to try it until I have another device I like as much as the EVO 4G..honestly what is the brick risk?
BTW, people keep telling me how much better the battery life is on cm7 etc, is there are a comprehensive chart of all the ROMs & battery life-feature set?
-Thanks
SMARTPHONEPC said:
I've been tempted to root & custom ROM since even before I got it but every time I read about brick risk I become less inspired to try it until I have another device I like as much as the EVO 4G..honestly what is the brick risk?
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Very, very low. I can't say there's no risk, but as long as you follow the instructions, it's very low. I personally used Unrevoked back in the day. As others have mentioned, since you're still on 2.2, you should do it. Once you take the OTA update to 2.3, it's game over on rooting for now. You can even just root but leave the stock ROM on there. Just get S-OFF while you can.
the way i see it you have to purposely want to mess up your phone when it comes to rooting as long as you you got a recovery yer good
Ugh i have the same issue.
TO preface:
Yes I know how to free room up...see here:
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Yet every time i try to install an app from the market OR even an APK on my SD card I get the insufficient storage space available.
I am rooted and on Synergy ROM but have never had this issue before. if ANYONE knows how to fix this that would be great. I can't even finish my restore from Titanium Backup.
DougB541 said:
Ugh i have the same issue.
TO preface:
Yes I know how to free room up...see here:
Yet every time i try to install an app from the market OR even an APK on my SD card I get the insufficient storage space available.
I am rooted and on Synergy ROM but have never had this issue before. if ANYONE knows how to fix this that would be great. I can't even finish my restore from Titanium Backup.
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Hmmm rooted with space & you still have this ?
I think ive answered this question 10 times already .
All you have to do is install a task killer...kill all apps...then go download and install your app.
This always works for me
The error is memory..not storage
-storm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424
How bout everytime I post this, nobody lets me know if it worksfor them or not....
-storm
r.storm85 said:
How bout everytime I post this, nobody lets me know if it worksfor them or not....
-storm
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Nope..
The other day when you posted it I was actually able to update-install a few apps without the error so I didn't need to try it but now that I was getting that error again I tried your suggestion with no difference. I was hoping it would be that easy but no such luck
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Nope..
The other day when you posted it I was actually able to update-install a few apps without the error so I didn't need to try it but now that I was getting that error again I tried your suggestion with no difference. I was hoping it would be that easy but no such luck
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Oh ok cool.
It always works for me.
So maybe it is storage??
Its weird. First time I came across this I was trying to flash a recovery through terminal emulator.
I got this read memory error. Thay totally screwed my recovery.
It was fixed by killing all apps then installing the recovery.
Have you tried installing your apps right after a reboot??
-storm
r.storm85 said:
Oh ok cool.
It always works for me.
So maybe it is storage??
Its weird. First time I came across this I was trying to flash a recovery through terminal emulator.
I got this read memory error. Thay totally screwed my recovery.
It was fixed by killing all apps then installing the recovery.
Have you tried installing your apps right after a reboot??
-storm
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Yup on trying to install apps right after reboot, it may have worked a couple times but doesn't work consistently now..
It's lame that the EVO only came with 1GB internal storage, I refused to get it until 2.2 in part because when it released with 2.1 you couldn't even natively run apps off microSD so you would have to rely on that whopping 1GB. I didn't anticipate having this issue with 2.2.
I still love my EVO but this is aggravating. Before I would try to root-customROMs I'd try to delete some non-essential apps, any suggestions on how much storage room to shoot for?
I didn't expect to still be unrooted stock 2.2 at this point but I may be more pissed if something went wrong than psyched with the added freedom-at least until I see my next phone in the market I like more than the EVO..
So my EVO became so unresponsive part of me wanted to take a bat to it, I had to remove the battery, reboot where it was still ridiculously slow, saw that my storage was down to 500k..
I deleted a couple apps & got it back up to 40MB, was able to update an app without this error but couldn't download another where the error occurred again. After another reboot was still getting a Low on space Notification but at least the EVO was useable again except when trying to open the Market-just hangs..
Considering backing everything up & doing a factory reset (& even dumping Android if the next iPhone is cool enough-but probably not )
I still can't believe HTC only put in 1GB internal storage for an otherwise great phone, EVO 3D is pretty cool but its speaker seems quite weak compared to EVO..
Thoughts?

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Hello!
I've had this problem for a while, and haven't been able to fix it because of school, but now that I have time, I wanted to fix it
I tried too root my s4, and I got it to work, and everything works fine, except the storage seems to be broken.
It says that there is only 400 MB of available space, but it has a total space of about 10 GB, most of which is still unused, and I can't install anymore apps or stuff, because it complains about not being enough space, even though it has at least 400 MB left
Any help would be appreciated
Peopie said:
Hello!
I've had this problem for a while, and haven't been able to fix it because of school, but now that I have time, I wanted to fix it
I tried too root my s4, and I got it to work, and everything works fine, except the storage seems to be broken.
It says that there is only 400 MB of available space, but it has a total space of about 10 GB, most of which is still unused, and I can't install anymore apps or stuff, because it complains about not being enough space, even though it has at least 400 MB left
Any help would be appreciated
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Have you by chance made more than 1 backup using ClockworkMod?
I don't know that this is your answer issue, but I've seen something very similar on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 series of tablets.
What was happening was that ClockworkMod recovery was backing up everything on internal storage including user data that was on teh SD Card parition of internal storage. So the backups were like 4GB intead of 1GB. This was happening because CWM was originally written for phones that had like 1GB or less of internal storage and it was made to back up everything on internal storage, not just on the system and data paritions.
Then the problem compounded itself on later backups because CWM stores it's backups in the internal memory partition. So for the second backup it would backup the entire contents of the internal memory again so the backup would be another 4GB, and this time it would also include the last backup, which was like 4GB alone. So the total backup size was 8GB instead of the 1GB it was supposed to be.
And the best part was the the backups were being hidden on the internal partition like CWM likes to do now so they were taking up a ton of space but weren't showing up as used space on the internal storage graphs.
That problem got fixed by the ClockworkMod team for the Galaxy Tab 2 series of tablets so I assume they addressed it on the recovery for all devices. But maybe you are still seeing a similar issue on your GS4.
You should be able to check if this is the problem by going to the ClockworkMod app and looking at your backups. Try deleting one of them (copy it to a PC or to the EXT SD Card if you don't want to lose it) and then see if your available internal memory goes way up afterwards.
If the problem isn't CWM (Or if you're not using CWM), I'd bet it's still something similar, where you have very large files that aren't being reported to the graph in settings. Try copying the entire contents of the SD Card to either an external SD card or to a PC just so you dont' lose anything. Then boot to recovery and format the data partition, which is the internal SD card. See if you have 10GB again, and then copy all your files back. (Look at them on the PC first and make sure there isn't a 6GB file in there somewhere)
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Have you by chance made more than 1 backup using ClockworkMod?
I don't know that this is your answer issue, but I've seen something very similar on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 series of tablets.
What was happening was that ClockworkMod recovery was backing up everything on internal storage including user data that was on teh SD Card parition of internal storage. So the backups were like 4GB intead of 1GB. This was happening because CWM was originally written for phones that had like 1GB or less of internal storage and it was made to back up everything on internal storage, not just on the system and data paritions.
Then the problem compounded itself on later backups because CWM stores it's backups in the internal memory partition. So for the second backup it would backup the entire contents of the internal memory again so the backup would be another 4GB, and this time it would also include the last backup, which was like 4GB alone. So the total backup size was 8GB instead of the 1GB it was supposed to be.
And the best part was the the backups were being hidden on the internal partition like CWM likes to do now so they were taking up a ton of space but weren't showing up as used space on the internal storage graphs.
That problem got fixed by the ClockworkMod team for the Galaxy Tab 2 series of tablets so I assume they addressed it on the recovery for all devices. But maybe you are still seeing a similar issue on your GS4.
You should be able to check if this is the problem by going to the ClockworkMod app and looking at your backups. Try deleting one of them (copy it to a PC or to the EXT SD Card if you don't want to lose it) and then see if your available internal memory goes way up afterwards.
If the problem isn't CWM (Or if you're not using CWM), I'd bet it's still something similar, where you have very large files that aren't being reported to the graph in settings. Try copying the entire contents of the SD Card to either an external SD card or to a PC just so you dont' lose anything. Then format the internal SD card using the formating option from the system settings menu. See if you have 10GB again, and then copy all your files back. (Look at them on the PC first and make sure there isn't a 6GB file in there somewhere)
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I had a feeling that some back-ups were taking up the space.
I have OUDHS as my recovery, and I noticed that it was only able to keep track of one, or I was only able to restore from the most recent back up. I guess I should switch to another recovery. I had TWRP on it for a bit, but it was too sensitive, and extremely difficult to scroll down the lists of menus without accidentally opening something. I wonder if that has been fixed in some of the later revisions of it though
There is a ClockworkMod app?
I assume you mean the internal storage is the internal SD card, and not the removable Micro SD card; I didn't know that that part could be reformatted.
Would ticking re-partition on odin do something similar?
Thank you for your help by the way!
Yes there is am clockwork mod app that let's you control and organize the recovery settings and to keep your backups organized. It is available on the play store.
Yes Im talking about the internal storage. Android 4.2 calls that the SD card and the removable storage the EXT SD or SD 1. You have files hiding on the internal storage. I've never used OUDHS so I'm not sure how it stores its backups.
As for formatting the internal storage I wouldn't mess with repartitioning in Odin unless you really know what you are doing. Just boot to recovery and wipe data. Sorry I said something different before...I was thinking about the external SD card for a second. (Back up the data to the external SD card or a PC first, obviously). If you want to be really thorough do a factory reset. You will have to redo all your settings doing that though. But either way should clear the internal SD card.
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Hello I was wondering if there was anyway to disable the phone from playing the ring tone and notification tones through the speaker while wearing headphones. Do I need a custom rom for this? Thanks.
Hi, can someone confirm for me that I'm following the correct steps? I haven't found anything clear on exactly how to go about the process of returning my device to 100% stock after searching and viewing many threads. I have the general idea, and just want clarification on one part.
I ODIN flashed the official MDL image.
I rooted my device using CF-auto-root.
I used Triangle Away to change all my bootloader information to official and change my information to official.
I then wiped my data/cache in stock recovery.
I once again ODIN flashed the official MDL image to remove traces of root that were added by CF-auto-root, such as the SuperSU app and binary.
I think it's all back to stock. Everything in download mode shows as official. My system status says official in the about menu within the ROM. The one thing I can't see on this device is the flash counter without rerooting with CF-auto-root again, so I want to confirm that ODIN flashing M919UVUAMDL_M919TMBAMDL_M919UVUAMDL_HOME.tar.md5 did not increment my flash counter. I wouldn't think it would seeing as it's a official tar, but I figured it'd be best to ask the people who know for certain before taking it in for replacement.
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Hi, can someone confirm for me that I'm following the correct steps? I haven't found anything clear on exactly how to go about the process of returning my device to 100% stock after searching and viewing many threads. I have the general idea, and just want clarification on one part.
I ODIN flashed the official MDL image.
I rooted my device using CF-auto-root.
I used Triangle Away to change all my bootloader information to official and change my information to official.
I then wiped my data/cache in stock recovery.
I once again ODIN flashed the official MDL image to remove traces of root that were added by CF-auto-root, such as the SuperSU app and binary.
I think it's all back to stock. Everything in download mode shows as official. My system status says official in the about menu within the ROM. The one thing I can't see on this device is the flash counter without rerooting with CF-auto-root again, so I want to confirm that ODIN flashing M919UVUAMDL_M919TMBAMDL_M919UVUAMDL_HOME.tar.md5 did not increment my flash counter. I wouldn't think it would seeing as it's a official tar, but I figured it'd be best to ask the people who know for certain before taking it in for replacement.
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Are you taking it back to t mobile for warranty replacement? If so you should be good. The guy at the t mobile store isn't going to check your flash counter, which should be 0 anyway based on the steps you took. If you boot into download mode you should be able to see if the flash count is zero. I think if its zero it won't show anything. If its more than 0 you will see the flash count.
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etherealglimpse said:
Hello I was wondering if there was anyway to disable the phone from playing the ring tone and notification tones through the speaker while wearing headphones. Do I need a custom rom for this? Thanks.
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Are you using the headphones with the mic that let you talk on the phone phone over headphones? Or are you using straight headphones that are for listening to audio only?
I think, but am not sure, that this makes a difference.
If someone else can give a better answer I welcome it.
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Skipjacks said:
Are you taking it back to t mobile for warranty replacement? If so you should be good. The guy at the t mobile store isn't going to check your flash counter, which should be 0 anyway based on the steps you took. If you boot into download mode you should be able to see if the flash count is zero. I think if its zero it won't show anything. If its more than 0 you will see the flash count.
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Are you taking it back to t mobile for warranty replacement?
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I am. It's been heating up so much while it's been charging that it stops charging and pops up a message saying the battery temperature is too high.
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If you boot into download mode you should be able to see if the flash count is zero. I think if its zero it won't show anything. If its more than 0 you will see the flash count.
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Are you sure about this? I don't think I've ever seen a flash count on this phone and have read that it is completely hidden on this phone, and that you never see it. I didn't see anything in download mode before using Triangle Away either, but Triangle Away showed a flash count around 15 before resetting it, so obviously it had been incremented.
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which should be 0 anyway based on the steps you took.
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That's what I really wanted to know. In other words, using ODIN to flash an official tar should not increment the counter at all... Thanks!
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Very clever. I like your signature.
crawler9 said:
I am. It's been heating up so much while it's been charging that it stops charging and pops up a message saying the battery temperature is too high.
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For this purpose I think you are fine. The guy at t mobile isn't going to check the flash counter.
Are you sure about this? I don't think I've ever seen a flash count on this phone and have read that it is completely hidden on this phone, and that you never see it. I didn't see anything in download mode before using Triangle Away either, but Triangle Away showed a flash count around 15 before resetting it, so obviously it had been incremented.
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I am not 100% sure, no. What I described has been the standard on Samsung devices for a while, but they might have changed it. But if you really want to check you could reroot it and use triangle away to check the flash counter again. If you had set it to 0 it should only be 1 when you get it rooted again. Then you can do the original steps to take it back to 0.
That's what I really wanted to know. In other words, using ODIN to flash an official tar should not increment the counter at all... Thanks!
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I'm not completely certain of this either. But again I am more than completely certain that t mobile will take the return and will never realize that its been flashed. I am assuming you are taking it to a t mobile store.
Also read this thread...other people talking about doing exactly what you are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42639795
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Skipjacks said:
Are you using the headphones with the mic that let you talk on the phone phone over headphones? Or are you using straight headphones that are for listening to audio only?
I think, but am not sure, that this makes a difference.
If someone else can give a better answer I welcome it.
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I think there's no way to change it. I've tried both. The volumes in the headphones reduces and I hear the ringtone through the earphones and through the phone speaker at the same time. Maybe it's a feature but I don't' like it lol.
Also, I think the sounds sucks on sgs4 compared to sgs3. Anyone experiencing this? It just doesn't sound too clear through headphones and I'm using pretty decent headphones. ath-m50, r7, senn 595
Update: I think the source files I was using was crap oops. I tried a good 320 and now it sounds just about the same lol.
Installing Heimdall on OSX 10.7.5
Greetings, seriously dumb question: I'm trying to install Heimdall on my Mac. In the readme file it says to install simply run "heimdall suite.pkg," but I can't find it anywhere in my download. What am I missing here?
Thanks!!
My city just got LTE yesterday and I seemed to have lost my tethering abilities. I'm on DarthStalker and the unlimited data plan. I was able to tether before with no issues... Does LTE have anything to do with not being able to tether now?
rizoh66 said:
My city just got LTE yesterday and I seemed to have lost my tethering abilities. I'm on DarthStalker and the unlimited data plan. I was able to tether before with no issues... Does LTE have anything to do with not being able to tether now?
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This sounds like a question for t mobile customer service. But...don't talk to the basic call center. Try to get tech support on the line as they will actually know what LTE is.
If LTE is the problem, can you keep the phone connected at non LTE speed and fix it? Or does that still not work?
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tarqeq said:
Greetings, seriously dumb question: I'm trying to install Heimdall on my Mac. In the readme file it says to install simply run "heimdall suite.pkg," but I can't find it anywhere in my download. What am I missing here?
Thanks!!
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Sorry I have never used a Mac in my life and have no idea how to help you. You might try asking this in the help thread for the AT&T variant, the i9505. There are more users in that forum and your question is obviously not variant specific.
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Skipjacks said:
This sounds like a question for t mobile customer service. But...don't talk to the basic call center. Try to get tech support on the line as they will actually know what LTE is.
If LTE is the problem, can you keep the phone connected at non LTE speed and fix it? Or does that still not work?
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Can't call tmob support, I have the unlimited data plan and am using the tethering hack built into DarthStalker's rom.
Yes, if I switch it to hspa+ 4G then I can tether. But I was hoping to take advantage of the LTE speeds.

Does restoring note 2 remove root?

Hi. I'm currently on stock rom 4.1.2 and rooted. If I go in settings and family tory reset my phone will it remove root? I couldn't get a straight answer anywhere else. Thanks for your help.
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No, it might remove updates applied to the Superuser application you're using (initial install being in /system and updates in /data), as well as which apps were granted root access but that's it. Factory reset deletes the contents of the /data partition, meaning your user apps and settings will be deleted. Depending on the options set, the internal SD card will be wiped, or not.
On the other hand, flashing back to stock with the original, unrooted Samsung images through Odin will remove root.
Thanks for the clear answer. I appreciate it.
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Out of curiosity, are you specifically looking for a way to remove root, or are you just wanting to factory wipe it without losing root?
atxhellcat said:
Out of curiosity, are you specifically looking for a way to remove root, or are you just wanting to factory wipe it without losing root?
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well here's the whole thing. i dont want to remove root. i want to flash to cyangenmod. I already tried cyangenmod 10.2 4.3 and it didn't work out for that well (battery life was ****, no data connection) so i moved back to stock. i was just curious to know if it did or not cause' i couldn't find straight answer anywhere else (or maybe i didn't look hard enough).
its_ja10 said:
well here's the whole thing. i dont want to remove root. i want to flash to cyangenmod. I already tried cyangenmod 10.2 4.3 and it didn't work out for that well (battery life was ****, no data connection) so i moved back to stock. i was just curious to know if it did or not cause' i couldn't find straight answer anywhere else (or maybe i didn't look hard enough).
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Ah, I gotcha. I only ran CM for a bit, just didn't like the interface, but I certainly found it to be solid. And no, a standard master reset win't unroot you, it's (generally) done by a process much like rooting the phone, uses ODIN and all that. I believe there might be an application that lets you do it sans PC, but don't quote me on that. Barring highly unusual circumstances, you should still be rooted. To get back to stock, did you just restore your stock ROM backup, or did you flash it back in?
atxhellcat said:
Ah, I gotcha. I only ran CM for a bit, just didn't like the interface, but I certainly found it to be solid. And no, a standard master reset win't unroot you, it's (generally) done by a process much like rooting the phone, uses ODIN and all that. I believe there might be an application that lets you do it sans PC, but don't quote me on that. Barring highly unusual circumstances, you should still be rooted. To get back to stock, did you just restore your stock ROM backup, or did you flash it back in?
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I just restored my backup from twrp recovery after wiping everything. Now one question. Is there any way I can flash the stock ROM without any t-mobile crop on it? I'm new to flashing.
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Ah, then look into TouchWiz ROMs based on the international LTE variant, the N7105.
FYI: If you didn't like CM for cosmetic reasons, it does have a theming engine. Or perhaps something like MIUI might be right up your alley.
Darkshado said:
Ah, then look into TouchWiz ROMs based on the international LTE variant, the N7105.
FYI: If you didn't like CM for cosmetic reasons, it does have a theming engine. Or perhaps something like MIUI might be right up your alley.
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its not the cosmetic reasons. i really liked CM but my data connection wasn't working and battery life i got was crap (heres the thread where i attached the screenshots http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426910). CM looked and operated fine. i'm currently on slimrom and had the same thing. but i fixed it by going to access points and restoring defaults for the access points.
do you know any good roms for note 2? i dont care about s pen as long it can navigate through (dont care about hovering/airview crap). i'm looking for a good stable rom that has customization and good battery life.
Thanks.
its_ja10 said:
do you know any good roms for note 2? i dont care about s pen as long it can navigate through (dont care about hovering/airview crap). i'm looking for a good stable rom that has customization and good battery life.
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I am currently using Jedi Master 16. Definitely stable and has customization out the wazoo, comes with a few themes to it, LMT controls for shortcuts, XPosed and an icon changer. The battery life is...okay. Not the worst, but not the best. I just underclock my processor and run Battery Doctor. Usually keeps me with a decent battery life, but again, not the best. For truly good battery life, you'd probably need an aosp rom.
Unless there's something I'm missing, Shado?
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[Q] Losing root on deknoxed debloated stock 4.4

My phone has lost root twice now. It acted very strange when this happened. Hopefully you guys can help.
I'm on the stock kitkat 4.4.2 that I personally deknoxed and debloated. I have xposed framework and just a couple modules installed for it (gravity box, app settings, and keepchat) Everything is the same as it was on my phone when I had 4.3 app wise.
The first symptom I notice is that tapping the power button wont make the screen go to sleep. Holding it still brings up the power menu.
The first time it did this it also wouldnt connect to wifi and ate battery like crazy.
Used the flash zip to disable xposed and dirty flashed the rom. This fixed the wifi but not the power button.
Ended up totally flashing back to stock 4.4.2 with Odin and redoing everything. Downloaded pretty much all the apps from the app store and only used titanium backup to restore data on a couple things.
Everything worked fine ~3 weeks. Today it stopped working again. All the same symptoms. Absolutely nothing was changed between when it was working and when it stopped. All I did was reboot because I wanted to run speedtest from a clean boot. (comparing sprint 4G with verizon 4G at a friends)
Went to disable xposed straight from the app and it said it couldnt because I didnt have root. Downloaded rootchecker and it agreed that I did not have root.
Suddenly it started working again. Passed root checker and all. Then a couple minutes later it stopped again.
Downloaded towelroot and re-rooted with it. Everything seems to be back to normal for now.
Any ideas? Theories? Investigative follow up questions?
thedumbass said:
My phone has lost root twice now. It acted very strange when this happened. Hopefully you guys can help.
I'm on the stock kitkat 4.4.2 that I personally deknoxed and debloated. I have xposed framework and just a couple modules installed for it (gravity box, app settings, and keepchat) Everything is the same as it was on my phone when I had 4.3 app wise.
The first symptom I notice is that tapping the power button wont make the screen go to sleep. Holding it still brings up the power menu.
The first time it did this it also wouldnt connect to wifi and ate battery like crazy.
Used the flash zip to disable xposed and dirty flashed the rom. This fixed the wifi but not the power button.
Ended up totally flashing back to stock 4.4.2 with Odin and redoing everything. Downloaded pretty much all the apps from the app store and only used titanium backup to restore data on a couple things.
Everything worked fine ~3 weeks. Today it stopped working again. All the same symptoms. Absolutely nothing was changed between when it was working and when it stopped. All I did was reboot because I wanted to run speedtest from a clean boot. (comparing sprint 4G with verizon 4G at a friends)
Went to disable xposed straight from the app and it said it couldnt because I didnt have root. Downloaded rootchecker and it agreed that I did not have root.
Suddenly it started working again. Passed root checker and all. Then a couple minutes later it stopped again.
Downloaded towelroot and re-rooted with it. Everything seems to be back to normal for now.
Any ideas? Theories? Investigative follow up questions?
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for some reason that happens to me when I'm on stock not on any other custom rom but when i clean flash a new rom everything is fine but if i Odin back to stock or flash one of the stock rooted via recovery i lose root a lot and when i re-root with Philz touch recovery i cant update the su binary with super su so i cant help you minus the flash a different rom answer I'm sorry :/
Not the answer I want to hear. But it is an answer and its appreciated.
By custom are you meaning stock based custom or full custom/AOSP based?
I know there are some stable custom roms out there but I like the general stability of stock especially since I still need to update my girlfriend's phone. She needs something that works all the time and a reboot will fix 99.9% of the issues she might see.
Our S3s are both ported to Ting. Hers is rooted mainly for the debloat and easy backup/recovery abilities. I told her until I knew mine was stable to just stay on 4.3 and ignore the update notification. She's had zero issues and I've had this one plus the external SD write crap. I'm definitely the nerd of the two of us and getting into flashing custom roms would be too much for her.
This might end up pushing me to something custom. If I do I'll just leave her behind at 4.3 and kill her update notifications permanently.
thedumbass said:
Not the answer I want to hear. But it is an answer and its appreciated.
By custom are you meaning stock based custom or full custom/AOSP based?
I know there are some stable custom roms out there but I like the general stability of stock especially since I still need to update my girlfriend's phone. She needs something that works all the time and a reboot will fix 99.9% of the issues she might see.
Our S3s are both ported to Ting. Hers is rooted mainly for the debloat and easy backup/recovery abilities. I told her until I knew mine was stable to just stay on 4.3 and ignore the update notification. She's had zero issues and I've had this one plus the external SD write crap. I'm definitely the nerd of the two of us and getting into flashing custom roms would be too much for her.
This might end up pushing me to something custom. If I do I'll just leave her behind at 4.3 and kill her update notifications permanently.
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damn well i meant custom touchwiz and custom ASOP
And now it's deleting system apps. Wtf. My alarm clock and calculator are gone. I sure didn't delete them. Titanium backup list most of the clock stuff as crossed out.
thedumbass said:
And now it's deleting system apps. Wtf. My alarm clock and calculator are gone. I sure didn't delete them. Titanium backup list most of the clock stuff as crossed out.
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that's strange what rom? and how long have you been using it i will do the research
Still stock ND8 deknoxed. I froze the bloat rather than deleting. I haven't had a chance to flash anything new since starting this thread.
Starting to wonder if my nand is shot... I couldn't find any apps that would do an integrity check on the nand.
Hi
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Still stock ND8 deknoxed. I froze the bloat rather than deleting. I haven't had a chance to flash anything new since starting this thread.
Starting to wonder if my nand is shot... I couldn't find any apps that would do an integrity check on the nand.
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Start ultra fresh:
1. Backup anything you absolutely must including from the internal storage.
2. Take the SD card out and leave it out.
3. Download is necessary and check the MD5 hash of the zip or tar of the stock ND8 tar. The hashes are somewhere in that thread, just search it for MD5.
4. Odin the stock ND8 tar.
5. Odin the very latest Philz Touch Recovery tar.md5.
6. In Philz's settings, use the re-root option.
7. Don't restore any data via Titanium Backup or other app. Only restore apps via the Play Store.
8. Observe if all weirdness has gone away.
9. If so, backup what you want from your SD card, reformat it and if you want flash a different ROM. Check the hash of anything you flash, especially ROMs and kernels.
10. Do not restore any Nandroids.
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Just as a quick update bump.
I haven't had a chance to sit and do a proper wipe and flash from scratch. After I missed an appointment due to missing alarm clock I dirty flashed the rebooted nd8. This hit my clock calender and calculator back. Then I had to remove knox and bloat again.
My phone has locked the power button and WiFi a few times since. Running towel root seems to fix it though the towel root app freezes and has to be force closed.
I have noticed what seems to trigger it to screw up is letting the battery run dead to the point it auto offs. Just powering it off/rebooting or pulling the battery doesn't cause it though.
Do plan to wipe it clean soon. Between work and home I haven't had time.
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And now it's deleting system apps. Wtf. My alarm clock and calculator are gone. I sure didn't delete them. Titanium backup list most of the clock stuff as crossed out.
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I had the same thing happen to me. I *think* it had something to do with my debloating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it think that many apps use the same processes. Deleting an app might delete processes needed by another app?
When using tibu, I've made it a habit to go slow. Wipe cache before I delete anything. Make a backup of any app I'm going to remove (after deleting data on that app). Only removing a few apps at a time, and making note if which apps I've removed.
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4.4.4 tmobile update

Ok I recently manually checked for update on my rooted S4 and for my surprise it said and diwnloaded a 4.4.4 SO update, but I cant seem to find where was this file downloaded to.
1.- Does anyone knows wherr was this file downaloded to?
2.- the OS downloaded warns of a Knox 2.0 that may disable some of my apps or something like that.
Can someone help? Is there a stock rom that I can download thatbis already rooted and stable?
Also does anyone knows of a good custom recovery, I currently have twrp and I hate it cause everytime that I erase or restore the phone, everything remains in the phone exept user info but folders prevoiusly created remains there. So basically the phone doesnt factory restore. :'(
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1) It's better to just download the stock NH7 from general section and flash with Odin.
2) Yes there are ROMs like that
And for your last question, factory resets are supposed to do that. They wipe the user data except the internal SD.. There is an option to wipe the internal SD in twrp and in any other recovery
I'm torn between updating to NH7 from the MDL bootloader or keeping it like it is until the Note Edge comes out and jumping to it. Don't know what I want to do but I will say I feel performance wise being on the MDL bootloader I feel I'm sacrificing speeds, abs oddball problems associated with not upgrading.
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mrbmg said:
I'm torn between updating to NH7 from the MDL bootloader or keeping it like it is until the Note Edge comes out and jumping to it. Don't know what I want to do but I will say I feel performance wise being on the MDL bootloader I feel I'm sacrificing speeds, abs oddball problems associated with not upgrading.
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Having the MDL bootloader, someone might find it more valuable if you decide to sell it. Because it is KNOX free You never know. But if you plan to keep it and just want to get rid of it, updating would be better.
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1) It's better to just download the stock NH7 from general section and flash with Odin.
2) Yes there are ROMs like that
And for your last question, factory resets are supposed to do that. They wipe the user data except the internal SD.. There is an option to wipe the internal SD in twrp and in any other recovery
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Actualy no, when I had my sensation with CWM I remember factory resetting the phone through the regular phone reset setting and it used to boot into recovery and do it by itself. And also deleted all user data, and all previously created data and folders.
So, going from this can you tell me where or under what settings in the recovery is the option to erase the internal sd card, cause I remember the last time a did choose something like that the phone didnt pass the boot logo and I had to reinstall, re-root and everything again, redo everything again and thats time consumming.
Thanks for your response bro.
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So does anyone knows where is this file downloaded ti si I can extract it from the device and save it
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Actualy no, when I had my sensation with CWM I remember factory resetting the phone through the regular phone reset setting and it used to boot into recovery and do it by itself. And also deleted all user data, and all previously created data and folders.
So, going from this can you tell me where or under what settings in the recovery is the option to erase the internal sd card, cause I remember the last time a did choose something like that the phone didnt pass the boot logo and I had to reinstall, re-root and everything again, redo everything again and thats time consumming.
Thanks for your response bro.
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So it wiped your external SD? Because sensation does not have internal SD.. To wipe the internal SD go to wipe, and I think its in advanced wipe
Soooo, can anyone help here?
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Soooo, can anyone help here?
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Download it, root your device, use a file explorer with root permissions, do a search for update.zip
Its either in /cache/ or /data/ I honestly cant remember. Do post a link if you do it tho.
Yep, thanks it was right there. Now I have the OTA for T-Mo US official 4.4.4.
Im gonna save it just in case
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Just wanted to throw my advice in on this. I've had my phone rooted since the day I got it in August of '13. Had the MDL bootloader, never updated it, but always updated the modem's to the current modem.
I noticed something weird on this last update to NH7 though. Something was just different. My LTE speeds definitely slowed down to a crawl, and my phone was rebooting on a stable rom that I've ran for over 6 monthes, GoldenEye. Battery drains have been plaguing me this last month as well. I tried different kernels, fresh installs, nothing was working. Finally got to the point of, screw it, I'm updating the firmware and will go from there.
Yesterday I upgraded firmware without completely wiping the rom that I was on. Odin'd NH7 and everything loaded back up the way it was, and Yes I now have the Knox bootloader. Immediately I noticed my LTE speeds had returned back to normal. I haven't had one reboot in the last 17.5 hours, and I'm at 75% battery left. I definitely think being on such an old bootloader impacted the way my phone was acting. Could just be me, but it helped me ten fold, from the problems I was having, to what I have now. I'm debating on just leaving it stock so I don't screw knox, just in case I want "JUMP" to the Note Edge whenever it comes out.
Again, this is just my case. I'm sure in a couple of days without customizing stupid crap or loading a few different roms to try out, I'll go ahead and root it and void the knox (I don't really care about it anyhow.) If the damn Note Edge was here I would have already pre-ordered and wouldn't have to worry. Since it's not, I might just pay this phone off and keep it and start up a new line for the Edge. Our phones are kick ass and almost impossible to brick, and very fast for what all I do on it.
Thanks,
BillY
Just root the phone, otherwise what is the point of having android ;-P
check out this rom if you want TW 4.4.4 with some modifications:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/development/rom-4-4-4-nh7-insane-kit-kat-v1-9-14-14-t2876946
there is another that it is just stock rooted 4.4.4, no mods, just plain stock here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/development/stock-base-4-4-4-nh7-rooted-deodexed-t2873695
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mrbmg said:
Just wanted to throw my advice in on this. I've had my phone rooted since the day I got it in August of '13. Had the MDL bootloader, never updated it, but always updated the modem's to the current modem.
I noticed something weird on this last update to NH7 though. Something was just different. My LTE speeds definitely slowed down to a crawl, and my phone was rebooting on a stable rom that I've ran for over 6 monthes, GoldenEye. Battery drains have been plaguing me this last month as well. I tried different kernels, fresh installs, nothing was working. Finally got to the point of, screw it, I'm updating the firmware and will go from there.
Yesterday I upgraded firmware without completely wiping the rom that I was on. Odin'd NH7 and everything loaded back up the way it was, and Yes I now have the Knox bootloader. Immediately I noticed my LTE speeds had returned back to normal. I haven't had one reboot in the last 17.5 hours, and I'm at 75% battery left. I definitely think being on such an old bootloader impacted the way my phone was acting. Could just be me, but it helped me ten fold, from the problems I was having, to what I have now. I'm debating on just leaving it stock so I don't screw knox, just in case I want "JUMP" to the Note Edge whenever it comes out.
Again, this is just my case. I'm sure in a couple of days without customizing stupid crap or loading a few different roms to try out, I'll go ahead and root it and void the knox (I don't really care about it anyhow.) If the damn Note Edge was here I would have already pre-ordered and wouldn't have to worry. Since it's not, I might just pay this phone off and keep it and start up a new line for the Edge. Our phones are kick ass and almost impossible to brick, and very fast for what all I do on it.
Thanks,
BillY
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what i did since the latest NH7 came out was update through ODIN, never had a problem with it, so i guess i got lucky
Lasted a whole 2 days stock and un-rooted after I updated to NH7.
I only owe another $200 on my phone so there is really no sense in "Jump" at this point. The Edge not being out made this decision real easy for me. Just going to keep the S4, and pay it off and start over again once the Edge comes out.

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