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Kernels and WiFi

Why do some kernels kill WiFi when flashed. Or is it just a mobile Odin thing
I have also tried to replace the kernel and rezip same issue
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Kernels control the hardware functionality. They specify higher-level functions so that the software (Android OS) can properly interact with the hardware. The kernel is what contains the drivers and such that you need for your different radios to work (mobile network [LTE or 3G] and wifi), as well as things like power management and proper boot/shutdown sequences. If its not implemented in the kernel, theres no way any programs can access the higher level functions to get the wifi going, or to get 4G going.
This is also why it's difficult for some devices to get working 4G on android versions past what is officially supported because the 4G drivers have to be written from scratch into the kernel, and they change from version to version. Now its not impossible, but very difficult
Hope that answers your question :thumbup:

CNexus said:
This is also why it's difficult for some devices to get working 4G on android versions past what is officially supported because the 4G drivers have to be written from scratch into the kernel, and they change from version to version. Now its not impossible, but very difficult
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Knowing this, does that mean TW kernels are better for writing things like 4G? I don't know how to explain my question, I guess I'm asking if TW kernels are more 'compatible' since they're just stock modifications.

OK the reason I'm asking is because of my port of pure aosp the stock CM kernel will not do WiFi but any other kernel will Lean BMS KT
Why work with one ROM but not another.
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sevenpioverthree said:
Knowing this, does that mean TW kernels are better for writing things like 4G? I don't know how to explain my question, I guess I'm asking if TW kernels are more 'compatible' since they're just stock modifications.
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No, what I mean is that once its officially released (for this phone it would be Touchwiz), then that can be incorporated into aosp kernels made for that official version for a specific phone. Both (theoretically) run it just as well, theres no compatibility issues in favor or either. But of course, since TW kernels have been engineered for this phone while AOSP has not, AOSP kernels would require a little more hacking to get it to work, hence possibly degrading the quality of 4G or other radios
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OK the reason I'm asking is because of my port of pure aosp the stock CM kernel will not do WiFi but any other kernel will Lean BMS KT
Why work with one ROM but not another.
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My guess would be that the paths for different things arent what its expecting, you would have to split the boot.img and diff the files to find out for sure though

Nice, thanks CNexus, you da man

Wifi broken
So, on a Sprint Galaxy S3, after rooting first with the unified toolkit and finding that my wifi no longer works, I went back to the stock version and found I still had no wifi. Figuring that it's better to be rooted so I can tweak things, I rerooted using QBKing's method (much easier, by the way). Wifi is still broken. Is there not a fix for this yet?
I've got:
Model#
SPH-L710
Android Version:
4.1.1
Baseband Version:
L710VPBLJ7
Kernel version:
3.0.31-CL616748
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 1 23:25:55 KST 2012
Build#:
JRO03L.L710VPBLJ7
Hardware Version:
L710.14
Because I'm a quiet one, I'm not allowed to comment in the forum that originally started this and I don't have 10 posts yet. So, here I am - sort of on topic and sort of off topic. But the bottom line is, I need to fix wifi since I'm *always* in roaming and connect to the world through my wifi.
So.
Ideas?? Please.
Thanks!
~Jayme

jaymethunt said:
So.
Ideas?? Please.
Thanks!
~Jayme
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When you rooted, did you install a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP)? Turn off your phone and boot into recovery and see if it's either of those.
You're currently on an out-of-date system. I don't think that's why you don't have Wifi, but I thik it'd be best if you try the latest and greatest.
If you do have a custom recovery, you can flash the stock rooted rom by Freeza. If you don't have a custom recovery, you'd have to re-root and make sure to follow the instructions (including pulling the battery).
If you need help with how to flash a Rom in a custom Recovery, I wrote this up for a thread earlier.
Hope you get your wifi working.

I guess I'm not sure how to answer your questions. I do have ClockWorkMod (that is what CWM means, right?) on right now, yes.
That page you recommended is over-the-top. There's so many choices, I don't know which one to make! I think I want Odex, just because I'm not a developer at this stage. Because I'm starting out with CWM, do I want this one or that one?
MD5: A89894F653099D158C8C459F2B7F656E
MD5: 5C24F1174C40E9B878C7D9BEA75DBFAF
Or am I just completely off target?
Thanks for replying and I hope my wifi gets fixed, too.

jaymethunt said:
I guess I'm not sure how to answer your questions. I do have ClockWorkMod (that is what CWM means, right?) on right now, yes.
That page you recommended is over-the-top. There's so many choices, I don't know which one to make! I think I want Odex, just because I'm not a developer at this stage. Because I'm starting out with CWM, do I want this one or that one?
MD5: A89894F653099D158C8C459F2B7F656E
MD5: 5C24F1174C40E9B878C7D9BEA75DBFAF
Or am I just completely off target?
Thanks for replying and I hope my wifi gets fixed, too.
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Yes, CWM is ClockWorkMod.
I'd recommend DeOdex Rom, because if it doesn't work, you can still flash mods onto it that might help you out (without reflashing a whole new Rom). If you install the Odex version, you wouldn't be able to flash most mods out there.
I haven't messed around with the "Leaked" build, so I'd personally recommend the latest official, which is the MB1. The link you should be looking for is:
DeOdex:
Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 L710VPBMB1 | Mirror | Mirror 2 (Not yet active)
MD5: 37E1CCCB3A30959C64DF238D0BD2B23C
If you download this file and install it per my previous instructions (that I linked to, make sure to do a Nandroid Backup and to wipe the /system in CWM), Wi-Fi should be working. If it doesn't I might have another thing I'd want you to try, but I'm fairly certain this will do the trick.

THAT worked beautifully. I guess I just needed jellybean. lol. So, I'm rooted, on the latest and greatest, AND I have Wifi! Yae!
Thanks so much for your help!
~Jayme

[Q] Should I update to KitKat 4.4.2? (MI7 Note 3)

In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.

People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.

If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/

I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.

skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.

It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!

Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said

icenight89 said:
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?

Is anyone having issues flashing Aroma ROMs on 4.4.2 Rooted?

This is my device at this point:
1. Rooted 4.4.2
2. Stock T-Mobile ROM
3. I can flash SinLess ROM v2.1.2 with no issues after reboot
ANY Aroma ROM I try to flash (for example, DARTHSTALKER_NOTE3_V6), after reboot after installing results in a bootloop at the Samsung screen.
Are NONE of the Aroma ROMs not working on the T-Mobile Note 3?
I would really like to flash the DARTHSTALKER_NOTE3_V6 but can't if I can't get past the Samsung screen on a bootloop.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Darthstalker is a 4.3 base ROM. It won't work on a 4.4 bootloader, which is what you have if you took the OTA or flashed the Odin 4.4 package. It's not Aroma, it's just that most of the Aroma installer ROMs haven't been updated to 4.4 yet. And Samsung made the bootloader incompatible, so once you are on 4.4, you can't boot a 4.3 ROM.
Same with recovery. Make sure you flash 4.4 bootloader versions of TWRP/CWM or it won't boot.

so what IS a 4.4.2 with Aroma and NOT AOSP?
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Darthstalker is a 4.3 base ROM. It won't work on a 4.4 bootloader, which is what you have if you took the OTA or flashed the Odin 4.4 package. It's not Aroma, it's just that most of the Aroma installer ROMs haven't been updated to 4.4 yet. And Samsung made the bootloader incompatible, so once you are on 4.4, you can't boot a 4.3 ROM.
Same with recovery. Make sure you flash 4.4 bootloader versions of TWRP/CWM or it won't boot.
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Thank you for the insight, I was seriously under the (wrong) impression that DeathStalker was a 4.4.2 ROM. I really didn't know.
IS there a list of 4.4.2 stock rooted ROMs with Aroma? You wrote "most of the Aroma installers haven't been updated to 4.4 yet." Which have? It's very confusing because honestly, i was looking and didn't see that DeathStalker was a 4.3 ROM. I went back and looked and noticed a bunch of JB stuff in the list of enhancements which gave it away.
Well, if anyone can suggest a good stable 4.4.2 ROM with Aroma and not AOSP, I want to keep the SPEN functionality that is still missing in CM. Although I do LOVE CM. Used it religiously on my S3.
thank you in advance.

I honestly don't know of any that have. Any reason you want an Aroma installer? It's not like you see it after the install is done. Most modded stock ROMs will list the "base" ROM they started from in the OP. Check that, and if it's a 4.4 base, it will likely work fine on your 4.4 bootloader phone. There's going to be a bit of a rough patch for a while as the ROMs get updated and users get updated. You just have to read up on each one to verify before installing. Just do a thread search for "bootloader" or "4.4" and read some of the posts. Chances are, it's been asked and answered in the thread if you look.
I'm just running a rooted stock build without Knox/CIQ, the stock ZIP that teshxx posted in the dev forum. Then just used Titanium Backup to un-install any bloatware I didn't want. Add a few Xposed modules, and it's a quite good ROM.
If you like CM, the SPEN does work. It acts a bit like a mouse. It's the built-in apps that don't work. You can replace the functionality of many of them. But if you really like some of them, that's not a great option. I ran CM/AOSP builds for a while, but decided the stability of a stock ROM was more important to me right now. I'll probably be back on CM after a while. I like the speed boost from the slimmer ROM.

Awesome reply
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I honestly don't know of any that have. Any reason you want an Aroma installer? It's not like you see it after the install is done. Most modded stock ROMs will list the "base" ROM they started from in the OP. Check that, and if it's a 4.4 base, it will likely work fine on your 4.4 bootloader phone. There's going to be a bit of a rough patch for a while as the ROMs get updated and users get updated. You just have to read up on each one to verify before installing. Just do a thread search for "bootloader" or "4.4" and read some of the posts. Chances are, it's been asked and answered in the thread if you look.
I'm just running a rooted stock build without Knox/CIQ, the stock ZIP that teshxx posted in the dev forum. Then just used Titanium Backup to un-install any bloatware I didn't want. Add a few Xposed modules, and it's a quite good ROM.
If you like CM, the SPEN does work. It acts a bit like a mouse. It's the built-in apps that don't work. You can replace the functionality of many of them. But if you really like some of them, that's not a great option. I ran CM/AOSP builds for a while, but decided the stability of a stock ROM was more important to me right now. I'll probably be back on CM after a while. I like the speed boost from the slimmer ROM.
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What a thoughtful and excellent reply. Thank you very much. I'm looking at MyROM Revolution and may download that.
Honestly, I wanted Aroma because it seemed so much more customizable upon installation rather than taking the vision that a dev had for the ROM they created. I may well be wrong and thank you for the update on CM and SPEN, good to know. I just didn't check out the official CM thread as I had heard no SPEN support yet.
I'm running Sinless ROM and while good, it has a certain non-customizable feel to it. Just looking for something lighter, just not as light until everything is stable of CM.
thank you and if anyone has any suggestions for any 4.4.2 ROMs with (or without) Aroma please pass them on.
Is there a list of 4.4.2 ROMs that are compatible?

sanjsrik said:
What a thoughtful and excellent reply. Thank you very much. I'm looking at MyROM Revolution and may download that.
Honestly, I wanted Aroma because it seemed so much more customizable upon installation rather than taking the vision that a dev had for the ROM they created. I may well be wrong and thank you for the update on CM and SPEN, good to know. I just didn't check out the official CM thread as I had heard no SPEN support yet.
I'm running Sinless ROM and while good, it has a certain non-customizable feel to it. Just looking for something lighter, just not as light until everything is stable of CM.
thank you and if anyone has any suggestions for any 4.4.2 ROMs with (or without) Aroma please pass them on.
Is there a list of 4.4.2 ROMs that are compatible?
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Dude, you want the best customizable ROM out right now. Head over to the international forum for X-NOTE . Won't even tell ya just head on over you'll be surprised yourself m8
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X-NOTE? Where is it?
chuko303 said:
Dude, you want the best customizable ROM out right now. Head over to the international forum for X-NOTE . Won't even tell ya just head on over you'll be surprised yourself m8
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A few questions:
1. Where is the international forum for the Note 3?
2. Where can I find a link to the X-NOTE ROM? (I searched at the top-level of T-Mobile Note 3 forums and found nothing in results)
**UPDATE: IS THIS THE FORUM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472301
3. Is the international X-NOTE ROM compatible with the T-Mobile device and if so, what is lost/not working in the international version that exists in the T-Mobile version?
thanks in advance.

sanjsrik said:
A few questions:
1. Where is the international forum for the Note 3?
2. Where can I find a link to the X-NOTE ROM? (I searched at the top-level of T-Mobile Note 3 forums and found nothing in results)
**UPDATE: IS THIS THE FORUM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472301
3. Is the international X-NOTE ROM compatible with the T-Mobile device and if so, what is lost/not working in the international version that exists in the T-Mobile version?
thanks in advance.
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It's that one. N look at there questions&answers thread has how to flash it basically download wifi nfc blue tooth fix and wootevers kernel. Wipe of course. Flash rom(CSC is default and also choose NO kernel) one done go on and flash wootevers kernel then the wifi fix. Zip should be a go I did it reverse and wifi was bad flashed it again all gravy
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Oh also the side effect I had. It deleted everything in my internal so make sure you put the kernel and wifi fix on ext SD so you'll hace it available. You'll eventually get your pictures back and music too but not 3rd downloads from the net or apps like wallpapers of screen shots. Be aware

[Q] ROM

Just retired my Tmobile S2 / Jedi Mind Trick and purchased a new Tmobile S3 LTE. Just rooted it and put on CWM.... Which ROMS have the following.
1.WiFi Calling and MMS
2.Good Battery Life
3.Silky Smooth and Lighting Quick
4.Plenty of Free Memory
5.Bloatware free
Thanks

All Roms based on the Samsung Touchwiz Framwork will support WiFi Calling. So try S3Rx by @enewman17 or StockMod by @saranhai. Eitheer way, I suggest flash KT747 Kernel for Touchwiz.
In my opinion, (and this can be debatable.) AOSP Roms have more free Ram and slightly better battery life. However they will never support WiFi calling. Let me know if you want to explore that.

I found this thread in search before asking the same question.
Not all touchwiz based ROMs support Wifi calling. Read posts 31 and 32 in this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735506&page=4
I am having a hard time finding the best ROM for my needs. I have to have wifi calling. I have tried several, and really like the KitKat based AICP, but that doesn't do wifi calling, so I started looking for Touchwiz based ROMs, but can't find a good stable one that works well FOR ME.

To rephrase Perseus' statement, only Touchwiz roms based on T-Mobiles firmware will have wifi calling.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk

Yup. That makes it far more difficult to sort them out.
I am going to try out StockMOD Rom now.

Most TW roms are built from a tmobile base. If not it should specify [PORT] in the title and/or OP.
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I can now confirm that wifi calling works on StockMOD.

custom ROM for tethering and wifi calling SGH-T999L
BenzE420 said:
I can now confirm that wifi calling works on StockMOD.
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Hi, I am new here to trying to figure out how to enable mobile hotspot/tethering and wifi calling with my SGH-T999L(t-mobile, prepaid 5GB data).
My phone(ver. 4.3) is rooted by Odin method with root66_TMO-L_T999LUVUBNC1.tar.md5 file. And superSU(ver. 1.94) was automatically(?) installed during the rooting but never used it since. Anyway, this was my very first dealing with phone software; I have never experienced rooting/flashing before. Please bear with my ignorant terms and questions...
q1. Isn't there any reasonably safe ROM to enable tethering?
q2. Can I flash the custom ROM with Odin, same process as my rooting but just change the MD5 file?
q3. Do I need to configure my phone before or after the custom ROM flashing for tethering?
when I rooted, I did not make any recovery. I had no clue about Knox counter before and still don't know where and how to check Knox counter with my phone.. I have just followed YouTube "safe rooting methods for s3" without much knowledge. How lucky my phone is not a brick now!!

1. Any of the Custom AOSP Roms will have tether built in. If you want to keep stock Touchwiz, you will have to use some Tether app from Play store.
2. Yes and no. You first flash custom Recovery with Odin. Same process except different file. Then you flash custom roms (which are in zip format) via the custom Recovery. A custom Recovery is TWRP, CWM or Philz Touch.
3. Usually yes after the custom rom is up and running. Just a few click to turn it on or customize to your preferences. No Rocket science there.
Knox Counter or Warranty Bit is displayed when you put the phone in download mode. If its zero that means its not set. If its 1 then you tripped it.

Is there any Tmobile based TW ROM that has HALO? If not, is there a good add on or app for notifications? Halo was one of the things I really liked about AICP. It seems possible, as Slimbean says it doesn't include HALO by choice.
It seems that all the ASOP ROMs are KitKat. Since KitKat is on the way to Tmobile S3 at some point. When that happens, will it allow ASOP type ROMS with Wifi, or am I mixing up several concepts?

HALO is a feature introduced by AOKP Developer community. Hence it is found only in Roms that are based on that code base such as PAC MAN. Other ROMs particularly Stock touchwiz will never the feature as is. Samsung did introduce something similar called floating Notifications that some liked but most did not. They base on Google's code so the AOKP code will never make it into Samsung Stock. However, I do recall there was bounty on Verizon's forum for bringing HALO to Touchwiz. Don't know what happened to it. I don't use touchwiz.
Speaking of all these terms, you indeed are mixing quiet a few things. AOSP Roms, based either on Google's code or CM's code will never use anything from the AOKP fork. This is by design. If you want to know why, you will have to understand the difference between AOSP and AOKP. Google is your friend.
I recall Liquidsmooth at one point in the 4.3 code had introduced HALO. Don't know if it continued or not. I do know, with the significant code changes to Kitkat, these prior features are not working and the developers are working to port them over. Its a matter of time. Speaking of which, all Custom Roms do have a 4.3 variant. Its just that users want the latest and greatest so you won't see much discussion of the 4.3 now. But it sure does exist.
After you accept Stock Kitkat update, I am sure you can continue to flash custom Kitkat Roms. Who knows, they might have moved to Key Lime Pie by then. But I don't think I understood the question. Are you referring to the Tether or WiFi hotspot ?

I was referring to wifi caling. That is a make or break feature for me. I found a few ROMs that were head and shoulders above TW (FOR ME), but because of lots of steel and concrete structures in my AO I really need wifi calling. I looked into multiboot, but I would have to toggle back and forth too much to make it work.

Wi Fi calling can and only will work with Samsung's Stock Touchwiz. So since that's critical to you, I'd suggest sticking with the stock Rom and Root it if needed. Once Rooted you can remove the bloat to make it more viable. You can also use the KT747 Kernel for Touchwiz. That will allow you to get better battery life.
As to your HALO wish, I guess, you'd have to stick with floating notification and Multi Window features Samsung has. You could try some of the ports of Xposed frameworks. But be cautious to make sure it does not break something else.

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1. Any of the Custom AOSP Roms will have tether built in. If you want to keep stock Touchwiz, you will have to use some Tether app from Play store.
2. Yes and no. You first flash custom Recovery with Odin. Same process except different file. Then you flash custom roms (which are in zip format) via the custom Recovery. A custom Recovery is TWRP, CWM or Philz Touch.
3. Usually yes after the custom rom is up and running. Just a few click to turn it on or customize to your preferences. No Rocket science there.
Knox Counter or Warranty Bit is displayed when you put the phone in download mode. If its zero that means its not set. If its 1 then you tripped it.
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Thank you very much. :good: Really sorry to bother you but more Qs..
1. When you say stock Touchwiz, does that mean the file I flashed for rooting? root66_TMO-L_T999LUVUBNC1.tar.md5
I have also tried many Tether apps found from google store and none of them worked. They just brings me to T-mobile error message.
2. Beyond tethering, I also like to have WIFI calling function although wifi calling is not as important as tethering for me. Benz said StockMOD works for WIFI calling. So, I was thinking about to flash StockMOD for my custom ROM as long as it will also work for tethering... Do you know whether it works for tethering? If so, would you tell me where I can find StockMOD? By the way, is StockMOD a custom ROM?
3. Did I really screw up my phone warranty? Ouch,,, I have just checked the message on download mode of my phone. It says following:
product name: sgh-t999L
custom binary download: no
current binary:Samsung Official
System Status: custom
DualDomm Secure Boot: enable
Warranty Bit: 1
Bootloader AP Swrev: 1
Any unusual status you notice beyond warranty Bit? Is this saying my phone is rooted? Frankly, I am still not confident to say my phone is rooted.. AGain, thank you very much for your help.:good::good:

Touchwiz is the name of samsungs launcher and modifications they made on top of Android. So whem you see stock, tw, or touchwiz its referring to the official firmware from samsung. Touchwiz based, tmobile roms are the only ones with wifi calling.
The warranty bit is tripped. No way around this if you plan to flash anything anymore. But yes, your warranty is now void im afraid...
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[Q] ND8 Worth upgrading

Good day,
I have seen some new TW ND8 ROMs and a few non TW ones. For those that made the jump do you think it's worth it? Normally I am all over new base band upgrades but since ND8 is balls in no turning back update I'd like some user feedback please.
Please include how long you have been on the update in your reply.
If I am missing something and you are able to Odin back to other base bands then great but if not....... :silly:
I appreciate the input.
Thanks.....

It was worth it to me.
Answer 3A here is what you want, as you did you just can't ever Odin anything but ND8 or NDC after, same for modem. Note if you try the NDC modem and WIFI doesn't work, you have to flash a custom kernel like Ktoonsez KT747.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743554
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII on TouchWiz 4.4.2 with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

Thanks for the info. What are your impressions. System speed, stability, data/wifi speeds, cellar reception...anything else you can think of compared to 4.4.2 KK ROM's? I am currently using Carbon, In the past I have used various KK/JB ROMs such as - Liquid Smooth, PA, Peoples... etc..etc...etc

You're welcome!
I can't compare to non-TouchWiz, I haven't used AOSP/CM/PM, etc in a while, before TouchWiz 4.3 anyway. I really liked 4.3 but I'm liking absolutely everything about TouchWiz 4.4.2 even better.
IMHO, try Wicked X 7.0 after flashing the ND8 stock tar and the very latest Philz Touch Recovery. Flashing any ND8/NDC based ROM before flashing the stock tar will hard brick your phone.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII on TouchWiz 4.4.2 with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

I appreciate it...Wicked is one of my favorite series of ROMs, definitely great development....

P.S dig your avatar, The Professional is one of my favorite movies with Jean Reno.

jdzppc said:
P.S dig your avatar, The Professional is one of my favorite movies with Jean Reno.
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Thanks! It's a classic, I agree.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII on TouchWiz 4.4.2 with Wicked X v6.5, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

If I was to use TW I would use wicked because it is a great ROM other than that I wouldn't use stock
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thanks for the added info. And I agree all versions of wicked I have used in the past are great.

jdzppc said:
Good day,
I have seen some new TW ND8 ROMs and a few non TW ones. For those that made the jump do you think it's worth it? Normally I am all over new baseband upgrades but since ND8 is balls in no turning back update I'd like some user feedback please.
If I am missing something and you are able to Odin back to other base bands then great but if not....... :silly:
I appreciate the input.
Thanks.....
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Once you Odin ND8 going back will hard-brick your phone. Personally I'm not a fan of it. If my phone shuts off for whatever reason, plugging it into a charger causes a kernel freeze & I have to pull the battery & unplug it in order to boot into my phone. This never happened to me on MK3 and I have yet to find a fix. I personally can't stand Touch Wiz. ND8's battery life seems to be better to me than MK3, though.

Thanks for the update as much info as possible helps.

i've been liking ND8 so far. It seems to be smoother than MK3. I haven't had any random freezes or hot reboots like I did before. For some reason, when i update apps on the play store, my phone would lag so bad it was unusable with MK3. With ND8, I can still multi-task and what not. Been getting great battery life on stock too. Check out the ND8 battery results thread for my screenshots

I also upgraded to N8 and have not have any problems. on MK3 my camera kept freezing (although that was a rom issue I think..) and some random reboots. Haven't had any and I have improved service in my area over someone else who didn't upgrade.

I appreciate the feedback, both positive and negative, I predict a weekend project coming up.