Hello, everyone. Is this possible? I am absolutely sick of this locked bootloader and nothing working crap. I saw where you can use T-mobile on a Verizon device but can you go the other way as well? I really miss Cyanogenmod!
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hlte
Guero. said:
Hello, everyone. Is this possible? I am absolutely sick of this locked bootloader and nothing working crap. I saw where you can use T-mobile on a Verizon device but can you go the other way as well? I really miss Cyanogenmod!
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You can use the VZW devices on tmo but not the other way around. VZW uses cdma for voice and Tmobile devices do not carry the bands necessary as they are proprietary.
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Has it been attempted. On the Verizon board they seem to think it's only a software difference.
Guero. said:
Has it been attempted. On the Verizon board they seem to think it's only a software difference.
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First, there is no active CDMA radio in the N900T, so no, it's not just software. The Qualcomm SOC in this phone has the CDMA hardware permanently disabled.
Second, Verizon is very picky about CDMA devices they haven't sold, running in their network.
Since it would require a hack to enable the required bands (something not possible with this particular phone), there's no chance any non-native CDMA device would ever be allowed to register it's ESN on VZW's network.
Remember, the CDMA side does not use a SIM card, only the LTE side does.
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Thanks for the help, time to put the Verizon phone on eBay and switch to t-mobile!
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Hey guys I have a question, is it possible to unlock the verizon GN SCH-i515 to work for sprint while sprint doesn't even offer it yet??? I really like the phone and want it.
lobej said:
Hey guys I have a question, is it possible to unlock the verizon GN SCH-i515 to work for sprint while sprint doesn't even offer it yet??? I really like the phone and want it.
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Not easily at least...
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any known link that i can use to at least try?
Nope. This has been discussed numerous times over the last 2 months the phone has been out. It just isn't possible especially with Sprint, as they are not very open to activating non-Sprint devices on their network. The ESN won't be in their database.
You have a slightly higher chance of getting it onto a Verizon MVNO, but even then that's kinda low.
i have the same question but i am from mexico and here exist a carrier with cdma network, i try a lot of times unlock my i515 but is the same answer... is not possible yet, my friend has an HTC EVO 3D CDMA and has the same network spesifications that my nexus and he can use normally in the same cdma carrier, i know the nexus has LTE/CDMA network, also i know in mexico doesnot exist yet LTE, my question is: can i unlock some day my nexus to use in CDMA?
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i have the same question but i am from mexico and here exist a carrier with cdma network, i try a lot of times unlock my i515 but is the same answer... is not possible yet, my friend has an HTC EVO 3D CDMA and has the same network spesifications that my nexus and he can use normally in the same cdma carrier, i know the nexus has LTE/CDMA network, also i know in mexico doesnot exist yet LTE, my question is: can i unlock some day my nexus to use in CDMA?
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No. Still no, and always no. I highly doubt you'll ever see a reliable method of unlocking this (or any) CDMA device for use on other networks. Its extremely hit or miss when it comes to CDMA devices.
You aren't going to be able to unlock an LTE/CDMA phone for VZW to work on another carrier, and if someone did manage to do so, it is only going to work on the CDMA network and nothing else. If you wanted to flash it to another network, you would need to find a way to unlink the LTE and CDMA radios. People have been looking into this since the DROID Charge came out (almost a year) and still have not found any way of getting it onto another network.
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No. Still no, and always no. I highly doubt you'll ever see a reliable method of unlocking this (or any) CDMA device for use on other networks. Its extremely hit or miss when it comes to CDMA devices.
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CDMA Devices aren't that bad to flash to other carriers .. You do however need the SPC and/or 16 digit password to do so.. Some newer phones are locked down pretty tight .. Most older CDMA can be manually programmed and prl updated to preferred carrier
I am looking to purchase an AT&T Galaxy Note 2 and need the following question answered... I am aware of the unlock link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982 that uses the method of dialing the following keys *#197328640# but here is my concern... Does this method allow you to use a Verizon Sim as if you had purchased a Verizon Galaxy Note 2? In other words does it unlock the CDMA band also?
Thanks for any correct information...
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I am looking to purchase an AT&T Galaxy Note 2 and need the following question answered... I am aware of the unlock link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982 that uses the method of dialing the following keys *#197328640# but here is my concern... Does this method allow you to use a Verizon Sim as if you had purchased a Verizon Galaxy Note 2? In other words does it unlock the CDMA band also?
Thanks for any correct information...
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If im correct verizon and at&t use completely different frequency bands.
Sumone please correct me if im wrong
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Until vzw goes to VoIP in the next few years the only thing the sim supports is 4g data. Because lte is a gsm based network, sim cards are needed. Nothing else in a Verizon phone used the sim so no you would not receive full service using a vzw sim. Not sure if you'd receive data or not but I'm betting no
Verizon uses CDMA for voice, and CDMA/LTE for data. Not only are the LTE frequencies incompatible, but CDMA is incompatible as well. So no, the Note 2 will not work AT ALL on Verizon.
Also to note, Verizon will only let you activate VERIZON BRANDED phones on their network. You can't buy unlocked phones and use them like a GSM carrier (AT&T, T-Mobile in the US) would. Sprint is the same way.
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Verizon uses CDMA for voice, and CDMA/LTE for data. Not only are the LTE frequencies incompatible, but CDMA is incompatible as well. So no, the Note 2 will not work AT ALL on Verizon.
Also to note, Verizon will only let you activate VERIZON BRANDED phones on their network. You can't buy unlocked phones and use them like a GSM carrier (AT&T, T-Mobile in the US) would. Sprint is the same way.
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Ok, so if I purchased a Verizon Galaxy Note 2, and rooted it, I could then use AT&T and later if I finally want to switch over to Verizon, I could... If I am mistaken about this, please let me know. Because I am trying to get a Galaxy Note 2 that will work with both GSM carriers and also work with Verizon when/if I choose to switch.
No. Verizon and AT&T phones/networks are not compatible with each other at all.
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Because I am trying to get a Galaxy Note 2 that will work with both GSM carriers and also work with Verizon when/if I choose to switch.
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This does not exist on ANY Note 2 on earth. Possible with *SOME* other phones, but not any Samsungs, and definitely more trouble than it's worth. NONE will be LTE compatible though. 99% of the GSM compatible phones on Verizon are locked on only work internationally, and will not work AT ALL for the US.
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This does not exist on ANY Note 2 on earth. Possible with *SOME* other phones, but not any Samsungs, and definitely more trouble than it's worth. NONE will be LTE compatible though. 99% of the GSM compatible phones on Verizon are locked on only work internationally, and will not work AT ALL for the US.
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I've been wondering about this. Can't the Verizon "international" phones be unlocked, then used with a US SIM?
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This does not exist on ANY Note 2 on earth. Possible with *SOME* other phones, but not any Samsungs, and definitely more trouble than it's worth. NONE will be LTE compatible though. 99% of the GSM compatible phones on Verizon are locked on only work internationally, and will not work AT ALL for the US.
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"Yes. Verizon GN 2 on AT&T network. Phone is rooted. AT&T APN added with APN Manager Pro. Decent speeds too with just 2 bars. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2"
Just pulled this off of a different thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044449
Seems like the Verizon GN2 can do AT&T with data, as long as you rooted and adjust the APN file. If this is incorrect please let me and the rest of the form know how or why this is incorrect....
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"Yes. Verizon GN 2 on AT&T network. Phone is rooted. AT&T APN added with APN Manager Pro. Decent speeds too with just 2 bars. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2"
Just pulled this off of a different thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044449
Seems like the Verizon GN2 can do AT&T with data, as long as you rooted and adjust the APN file. If this is incorrect please let me and the rest of the form know how or why this is incorrect....
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I already said data "could" work. That'd not the issue. Getting everything to work is what seems to be unlikely. Different frequencies for voice/text.
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Any new Verizon phones can work on any GSM HSPA+ network with some trickery or are unlocked out the box. Some phones work on At&T and T-mobile while others only work with carriers outside the U.S. YMMV.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/25/3405610/verizon-iphone-5-unlocked-open-access-fcc
A guy has it working on AT&T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905016&page=5
So I was talking to a Samsung rep at a Best Buy and she told me they may release a Developers Edition of the Note 4. I Googled it and see confirmation that there will be a Developers edition and that it will be sold through Verizon but not subsidized to any carrier. It should be released mid-November and cost around $660.00 Full Price.
That being said, does anyone plan to get the Dev Edition in order to Root/ROM? I am still rocking my Galaxy S3 but may end up going with the Note 4 so long as it has full Root/ROM.
I already have a note 4 but i might...Is it going to be able to use AT&T's 4G LTE? or only H+?
It seems that it's going to be a Verizon exclusive and will stay that way... I guess that it could be unlocked but Verizon phones have no simcard right? So I assume it would never work with AT&T
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It seems that it's going to be a Verizon exclusive and will stay that way... I guess that it could be unlocked but Verizon phones have no simcard right? So I assume it would never work with AT&T
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Verizon uses sim cards now too. They use it for their 4g. If a verizon phone is unlocked it can be used on AT&T but usually only with H+. I just didn't know if there was a different case with this one. Why is verizon getting all of the good phones? Droid turbo and now this?
I'll probably wait until it does release to see if its compatible with AT&T but I definitely require it to be LTE and not just H+. Hopefully it is a fully unlocked device with all of the bands needed to work with AT&T.
If that's true I might even sell mine to get it
It's for Verizon only. They use a different LTE it's CDMA based so will be no help for ATT users. If you want to get one for ATT you need to have everyone blowing up their twitter Facebook etc to get one released.
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It's for Verizon only. They use a different LTE it's CDMA based so will be no help for ATT users. If you want to get one for ATT you need to have everyone blowing up their twitter Facebook etc to get one released.
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Just maybe like verizon's previous iphones that worked on att and tmobile just fine. But still doesnt make sense a developer version just for verizon, we know most developers are on gsm, jk
Hey guys!
I have a note 3 and its EOL. I was waiting for a Note 5 but I guess I dont have time now. I like the S6 Edge but it does not have key features I want (expandable memory card, extra battery).
This leaves me back with the Note... What's the best way to get it Rooted for Verizon? Can I buy it from T-mobile / ATT Auto Root it then switch it over to Verizon? Thoughts?
The other variants don't have the right bands in them for Verizon. I believe your only option is to pick up a developers edition.
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WarlockLord said:
The other variants don't have the right bands in them for Verizon. I believe your only option is to pick up a developers edition.
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Incorrect. They have the same bands for Sprint/Verizon/ATT/TMobile ect.. but IME's have been white listed and/or bands have been locked by the carriers. Global phones typically have all the bands necessary.
eskomo said:
Incorrect. They have the same bands for Sprint/Verizon/ATT/TMobile ect.. but IME's have been white listed and/or bands have been locked by the carriers. Global phones typically have all the bands necessary.
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Your statement is also incorrect in part, as the T-Mo and AT&T phones lack the CDMA radios required for Verizon.
dpoverlord said:
Hey guys!
I have a note 3 and its EOL. I was waiting for a Note 5 but I guess I dont have time now. I like the S6 Edge but it does not have key features I want (expandable memory card, extra battery).
This leaves me back with the Note... What's the best way to get it Rooted for Verizon? Can I buy it from T-mobile / ATT Auto Root it then switch it over to Verizon? Thoughts?
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You will need to get your phone unlocked first.
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You will need to get your phone unlocked first.
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I worked at VZW for 3 years in Tech Support. You can not take another phone from any other carrier (except the old Altel phones) and use it in Verizon with the exception of global phones with global sim cards. Verizon uses A-Key authentication which prevents taking a Verizon sim card and putting in a non-Verizon phone and using it. Verizon used CDMA unlike all the other carriers.
That really stinks, anything I can do on the Verizon Note 4?
Has anyone here tried the new root file for Verizon S8+
https://download.chainfire.eu/1080/...to-Root-dream2qltesq-dream2qltesq-smg955u.zip
It will only work with an unlocked bootloader. Since all US Snapdragon based S8's have a locked bootloader it useless.
So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
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So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
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[emoji19] smh
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photolarry said:
So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
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He clearly states that it only works with an unlocked bootloader. If the snapdragon versions of the S8/S8+ had an unlocked bootloader it would work. Not sure why you could have an issue with him.
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He clearly states that it only works with an unlocked bootloader. If the snapdragon versions of the S8/S8+ had an unlocked bootloader it would work. Not sure why you could have an issue with him.
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The U version isn't ever unlocked. Not with him. I'm just confused why it seems this would work on that model but it doesn't
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked by any means, it will work.
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If the bootloader ever gets unlocked by any means, it will work.
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You missed my point and question to him. Which is "U" model is LOCKED because it is all phones inside the USA that are distributed by all 4 major carriers. So there is no such thing as SM-G955U which is unlocked. Does not exist. Thus I wanna know why there is even a zip file which chainfire created since it cannot be used on any of these phones. And why would it "get unlocked"....it is done at the factory. Only way to "unlock" it is to use a root method like was done on S7, where it basically involves flashing an engineering boot image/kernel that has root. At some point, this probably will be made and then using same modified ODIN (PrinceComsy) would potentially be the solution.
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You missed my point and question to him. Which is "U" model is LOCKED because it is all phones inside the USA that are distributed by all 4 major carriers. So there is no such thing as SM-G955U which is unlocked. Does not exist. Thus I wanna know why there is even a zip file which chainfire created since it cannot be used on any of these phones. And why would it "get unlocked"....it is done at the factory. Only way to "unlock" it is to use a root method like was done on S7, where it basically involves flashing an engineering boot image/kernel that has root. At some point, this probably will be made and then using same modified ODIN (PrinceComsy) would potentially be the solution.
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I will try and clear up some confusion. All US snapdragon versions of the S8+ have the same model number SM-G955U. There is an "unlocked" SM-G955U version of the S8+ in the US. It is carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked. Apparently the CSC file carries the carrier information in the firmware. Also the S7 was rooted but never bootloader unlocked. So you could use most root apps but you could not modify any system files. The root was achieved with an engineering kernel and was not very useful.(ie bad battery life, phone getting hot and unstable). You could however flash any US S7 to any carrier or even the Unlocked firmware.
But if you cannot flash even the csc, how do you gain root access when Odin basically does nothing. That's my question and point. Seems that if I stick with Galaxy phones that I'm never going to attain root again. Probably because they don't want risks of pay apps being misused. I have one app that refuses to even run if I have usb debugging on. Vendors are getting smarter about locking things down.
It's not Samsung's fault...it is Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. I can't even take my Verizon phone and change it to T-Mobile. That's ridiculous!
If LG lets it's consumers unlock there bootloader then why don't samsung? I'm selling my ccarrier unlocked s8+ and buying a unlocked g6. Screw this crap. I hope samsung goes bankrupt! SAMSUNG ALLOW US TO UNLOCK OUR BOOTLOADERS.
I wish my S8+ was rooted?
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It's not Samsung's fault...it is Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. I can't even take my Verizon phone and change it to T-Mobile. That's ridiculous!
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The reason you can't do this is the bands are different (I believe). Or, at least Verizon is CDMA while T-Mobile is GSM. I don't know much about the differences between CDMA & GSM, but I know that CDMA phones won't work on GSM networks & vice versa. That's why Verizon phones won't work on T-Mobile. Hopefully that (kinda) cleared it up for you.
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The reason you can't do this is the bands are different (I believe). Or, at least Verizon is CDMA while T-Mobile is GSM. I don't know much about the differences between CDMA & GSM, but I know that CDMA phones won't work on GSM networks & vice versa. That's why Verizon phones won't work on T-Mobile. Hopefully that (kinda) cleared it up for you.
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My goodness you could not be any more wrong..... That is no longer the case anymore. Verizon phones work on T-Mobile and all GSM carriers. I should know since I was with Verizon and I switched a while back but am now back on Verizon. Some phones from T-mobile won't work with Verizon but some do. It just depends on the phone and what bands it has. Like the S8 from T-Mobile will work on Verizon but an iPhone 7 from T-Mobile won't because it doesn't have CDMA bands. It's simple research
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My goodness you could not be any more wrong..... That is no longer the case anymore. Verizon phones work on T-Mobile and all GSM carriers. I should know since I was with Verizon and I switched a while back but am now back on Verizon. Some phones from T-mobile won't work with Verizon but some do. It just depends on the phone and what bands it has. Like the S8 from T-Mobile will work on Verizon but an iPhone 7 from T-Mobile won't because it doesn't have CDMA bands. It's simple research
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me ? it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! ? sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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CDMA is only for 3G. With 4G, Verizon is using LTE GSM (same with AT&T, T-Mobile).
Verizon LTE covers over 98% of their network, but there are still some remote places where there is only CDMA coverage.
Verizon is moving away from CDMA and it will be retired by 2018.
So as long as you don't mind not having CDMA in a few places, any LTE GSM phone with Band 13 would work with Verizon.
Look at HTC U11, it doesn't have CDMA, but it's still advertised as "Verizon certified".
Sadly, the Internationals versions of S8/S8+ don't have band 13. But fortunately, all US versions have both bands 13 and CDMA support. That's why you can switch to any carrier as long as it's a US version.
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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No worries mate. Just wanted to put that out there in case anyone become confused. I meant no disrespect
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CDMA is only for 3G. With 4G, Verizon is using LTE GSM (same with AT&T, T-Mobile).
Verizon LTE covers over 98% of their network, but there are still some remote places where there is only CDMA coverage.
Verizon is moving away from CDMA and it will be retired by 2018.
So as long as you don't mind not having CDMA in a few places, any LTE GSM phone with Band 13 would work with Verizon.
Look at HTC U11, it doesn't have CDMA, but it's still advertised as "Verizon certified".
Sadly, the Internationals versions of S8/S8+ don't have band 13. But fortunately, all US versions have both bands 13 and CDMA support. That's why you can switch to any carrier as long as it's a US version.
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My point exactly about the S8's. US variants are all the same no matter what carrier. All Google phones after the Nexus 6 are the same way. The Nexus 6 worked on all US carriers no matter where you got it from and it's like that all the way to the new Pixel phones. Where as iPhone's, just as an example, have different bands when it comes to different carriers. Unlocked, Verizon, and Sprint iPhone's have all bands both CDMA and GSM where as the GSM ones like those bought straight from T-Mobile or AT&T only have the GSM bands.
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me ? it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! ? sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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You're NOT stupid! I had no idea either. I know that I tried to switch my Verizon S8+ to T-Mobile but it wouldn't recognize my IMEI so I just figured the two networks were different
I have a unlocked verizon(xfinity mobile) s8plus on tmobile right now.. The phone had no issues on setup to go on the tmobile network..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-g955u-g955u1-snapdragon-sampwnd-t3658911
So this has changed?