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Verizon Note 2 Vs. T-Mobile Note 2

Which Note 2 supports more networks and frequencies; and therefore, which would be more suitable for international travel. Is the Verizon Note 2 even pentaband?

T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Rhiannon224 said:
T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Yup, the T-Mobile version will work in more places overseas -- Especially Europe. Just in case, you might want to ask this in the Verizon area also just to make sure. :good:

I'm confused because on Samsungs website, http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I605TSAVZW-specs
the Verizon Model has the GSM frequencies,
is it GSM if unlocked; i believe the Note 2 is already unlocked by verizon, will it work on GSM frequencies internationally?
correct me if I'm wrong, thanks

the verizon Galaxy Note II apparently has the GSM radios,
also has LTE; doesn't AT&T LTE work along same frequencies as verizon LTE
or is the verizon LTE exlusively to CDMA?

All Galaxy Note 2 devices seem to have all WCDMA, GSM, and LTE bands.
But what I understand is that Verizon version is considered as a "world" phone. I know that they tell me that I can use their Galaxy Note 2 on the European Networks.
I have played around with the bands on my T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 and can get the WCDMA and LTE working. So I don't know if the Modem firmware in all Galaxy Note 2 are the same and just need to be activated by the carrier's sim card or not. Someone please educate us on the this. I know that their is talk of needing OTA update to activate the LTE within T-Mobile GN2. But if the Modem is all the same then can just updating or exchanging the sim card could do the same? Or does the nv file also needs to be updated to activate the band/s as well?
The question is not if Galaxy Note 2 (all verisons) have the bands. But how to (the actual process) activate the band, in question, and get the Galaxy Note 2 in working order with the carrier of choice? What is the method? How to do the process of this method?
Please correct me if I am getting this wrong.

^ good point, and also just to ask about the verizon note 2 again, i thought it carries carries an an additional radio for CDMA, does this mean that the verizon note 2 model has better capabilities worldwide' since it is virtually compatible with all networks in the world (simply tweaks to the frequencies to the radio can get the verizon variant working virtually anywhere) please correct me if I'm wrong here. thanks

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Problem I have seen in the past with Verizon world phones is that the game frequencies only work overseas. And lte is gsm band. Which is one of the few reasons Verizon phones have a sim slot to begin with
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.

But doesn't Verizon use LTE on the 700 band just like AT&T and future TMobile LTE?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you.

nerdydesi said:
All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So the Verizon Note2 is like the AT&T Note2 & Sprint Note2 (supporting 21Mbps HSPA+ but not 42Mbps like T-Mobile) but all only with their own respective LTE?..wouldn't it be more cost effective for Samsung just to make 1 phone with all the hardware to support all (isn't the iPhone5 like that now?) or is it cost prohibitive or do carriers not want to make it easier to unlock?
Are we still confident that the T-Mobile Note2 is the best if we want the flexibility to use on all carriers? How often is >21Mbps HSPA+ seen in real world use & why is the disabled LTE not listed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877 ?

So, which is better then, Verizon or T-Mobile? Verizon's Note 2 also includes a CDMA radio whereas the T-Mobile version does not. If you are using the Note 2 in the US, wouldn't you have more flexible options in terms of which carrier to use?

nerdydesi said:
All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
-Thnx

Well LTE On the Verizon Note 2 is only compatible with Verizon's Network. Even if unlocked; the phone's firmware only recognizes LTE if only the Verizon 750 band is detected. Verizon has its own exclusive LTE bands compared to AT&T and Future T-Mobile LTE (sharing the same LTE bands)
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So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
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I cannot speak to the CDMA radio issue, but I am positive that Verizon LTE will not work with any GSM LTE phone. The frequencies are similar, but Verizon is using a different LTE protocol. I asked that question a long time ago, thinking that LTE would finally allow roaming between Verizon and AT&T, but they are too clever to allow such a democratic system to function. They will remain fundamentally incompatible, not because they need to be, but because they want it that way to keep you locked to your carrier by your choice of device. Nice, eh?
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The Verizon NoteII will (in theory) connect to any gsm carrier. How to do so, I don't know.
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^^^ Well, the Verizon Note 2 will not be able to work with another carrier's LTE than itself.

my experience
Hey folks,
I've got the Verizon Note 2 and I love it. If you're willing to unlock the bootloader and then install a hack onto your device, you'll easily be able to swap the SIM card out and use it just about anywhere. Yes, the phone is carrier unlocked (not the same as bootloader unlocked). The issue is that in the settings, they won't let you add the specific APNs for the carriers you need. I"m not sure how else to get around that without installing some of the hacks. I managed to do it and it works beautifully on Canada's Bell Mobility, HSPA+ is screamingly fast and the LTE on VErizon in the States is just insanely fast. My recommendation: get the Verizon version because they've built out their LTE much more than their rivals at this point.

On anantech the reviewer stated that the tmobile version would be the most compatible. If you get vzw note2 and switch you wont get lte on tmob or att. Quite frankly vzw is too expensive and the coverage from tmobile is getting better by the month. Not to mention their business pricing is better than any of the other carriers.

Doesn't Verizon use LTE on the 700 band just like AT&T and future TMobile LTE?

Doesn't Verizon use LTE on the 700 band just like AT&T and future TMobile LTE?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you.

Yes, they do, but there are different sub-bands on each frequency. I'm not sure you'll be able to use our phones on VZW, which seems to be where you're heading.
Even if you could for data, until vice over LTE comes, you couldn't do voice (cdma) on Verizon.
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but can't you do voice with verizons note 2 if the phone is used with an AT&T or Tmobile microsim card?
verizon's note is capable of gsm as well and supports the frequencies of AT&T and Tmobile if unlocked, is that so?
aren't the phones from verizon sold unlocked?

winlinmac001 said:
but can't you do voice with verizons note 2 if the phone is used with an AT&T or Tmobile microsim card?
verizon's note is capable of gsm as well and supports the frequencies of AT&T and Tmobile if unlocked, is that so?
aren't the phones from verizon sold unlocked?
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Yes but their boot loader is encrypted so you will have a hard time changing kernels. Also I do not know for sure their note 2 is SIM unlocked. Most phones are but some are not (think iPhone which they wont unlock for use in US only overseas)
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winlinmac001 said:
but can't you do voice with verizons note 2 if the phone is used with an AT&T or Tmobile microsim card?
verizon's note is capable of gsm as well and supports the frequencies of AT&T and Tmobile if unlocked, is that so?
aren't the phones from verizon sold unlocked?
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My T-Mobile Note 2 is sim unlocked. I can pop my own AT&T sim in it and get voice and 3G data no problem.
I tried the sim from my Verizon S3 in the Note and while it displayed signal bars for voice only, and any attempt to make a call resulted in a message about not being registered on the network.
Verizon is word about letting non stop Verizon phones on their network, and even if the phone is compatible on the GSM, that doesn't mean they'll just let you bring any device to the party.
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T-Mobile Note 2 > AT&T Note 2 > Verizon Note 2
The above is an order in terms of which Note 2 is more flexible in switching between carriers,
Overall, T-Mobile has the best Note 2, right?
Agree or Disagree?

Winlinmac001: you have to sort out your priorities, get a phone, enjoy it and move on...
Pick your carrier first.
If its Verizon, then get their model, not much else to it really. Until they get VoLTE operational and ditch CDMA completely (many years to go) your phone has to be activated in their system. Expect no, or limited support for US GSM carriers.
If it's T-Mobile, one of their MVNOs (or even a non-LTE AT&T MVNO), or you want to be able to switch to those with a minimum of fuss: T889. The clincher here is the HSPA AWS support that you'll need to get any meaningful speeds in non-refarmed areas. From what I understand only T-Mobile has DC-HSPA (42 Mbps) whereas AT&T only has 21 Mbps.
If it's AT&T: are you in an LTE market? do you care for LTE? If yes: I317. You're certain to get LTE right now with this one, with no concerns about cross-flashing modems or waiting for some firmware update that could take a while to come on the T889.

T-Mobile
It's settled then; T-Mobile Galaxy Note II it is; especially since it is compatible with most networks compared to AT&T's variant; and that it is a true global phone. Thank you.

[Q] How to get a verizon sim to work on a at&t samsung galaxy s3

How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
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getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
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Unfortunately, can't be done as Verizon uses CDMA and ATT uses GSM. Means radios are completely different.

getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
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Android version 4.1.2
Baseband version 1747ucdmg2
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impossible until the carriers and technology says so, sorry CDMA+GSM dont mix unless they say so

getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
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What all have u tried so far? I have a friend with a verizon droid dna running a straight talk (at&t) sim, and everything works, calls, text, mms, and internet...

DMF1977 said:
What all have u tried so far? I have a friend with a verizon droid dna running a straight talk (at&t) sim, and everything works, calls, text, mms, and internet...
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As stated above, Verizon and att use two entirely different networks. The radio hardware is different. Unless the droid dna is a gsm phone that should not be possible.
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Greycloak42 said:
As stated above, Verizon and att use two entirely different networks. The radio hardware is different. Unless the droid dna is a gsm phone that should not be possible.
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I'm fully aware that they are entirely different networks, but it works. Yes, the verizon dna is cdma, but it also takes a sim card, im assuming because of the 4g lte...

DMF1977 said:
I'm fully aware that they are entirely different networks, but it works. Yes, the verizon dna is cdma, but it also takes a sim card, im assuming because of the 4g lte...
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That phone is also GSM capable. At that point it's all a matter of the APN settings. It can not be done with the S3 on any carrier (swapping from CDMA to GSM)

getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
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Android version 4.1.2
Baseband version 1747ucdmg2
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I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.

tokuzumi said:
I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.
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It will work with T-Mobile because it's a GSM network. The radio can't be hacked. It's a limitation of the hardware itself. It's 2 completely different pieces of hardware.

The sim card on Verizon phones is ONLY used to access Verizon's LTE, without that simcard you'd have regular 4G only on a Verizon phone. That sim card/or phones acts in no way possible as GSM accessible.
So no it will NEVER work regardless of what you do.
And don't fall for ads on the internet about any Verizon,Sprint, or any CDMA phone to work on GSM networks.

jayRokk said:
The sim card on Verizon phones is ONLY used to access Verizon's LTE, without that simcard you'd have regular 4G only on a Verizon phone. That sim card/or phones acts in no way possible as GSM accessible.
So no it will NEVER work regardless of what you do.
And don't fall for ads on the internet about any Verizon,Sprint, or any CDMA phone to work on GSM networks.
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This is not entirely true for all Verizon phones. The DNA, S4, Note 2, LG G2 (among others) are sim-unlocked out of the box, and will work with AT&T/T-Mobile (the note 2 requires some hacking in order to add the APN settings). Also, as I recall, if I took the sim card out of my GNex and DNA, I did not have service. It would only allow for emergency calls. No talk/text/2G/3G.
For the Galaxy Nexus, the phone is 100% guaranteed to not work on any GSM network.

tokuzumi said:
This is not entirely true for all Verizon phones. The DNA, S4, Note 2, LG G2 (among others) are sim-unlocked out of the box, and will work with AT&T/T-Mobile (the note 2 requires some hacking in order to add the APN settings). Also, as I recall, if I took the sim card out of my GNex and DNA, I did not have service. It would only allow for emergency calls. No talk/text/2G/3G.
For the Galaxy Nexus, the phone is 100% guaranteed to not work on any GSM network.
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Read the first sentence
"Only to get Verizon's LTE"
Unlocked phones work "globally"
Which means you'd get Voice and EDGE/3G at the most from other GSM networks, given you've provided the correct APNs. Locked phones, which carry that sim card for Verizon's LTE ONLY. Either way only a few phones will work. The rest are useless.
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It will work with T-Mobile because it's a GSM network. The radio can't be hacked. It's a limitation of the hardware itself. It's 2 completely different pieces of hardware.
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No. They use the same hardware. Msm8960. It should support GSM CDMA WCDMA LTE and Td-scdma. Almost all the network. It's mostly because of the lock of the radio/nv.

Remember, the op is asking if he can use an at&t galaxy s3 on Verizon. It's not going to work.

IT WORKS
tokuzumi said:
I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.
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i can verify that i an running AT&T straight talk service on my sch-i535 (Verizon Galaxy s3)

I have had success using a Verizon sg3 mother board on att's network although I was only able to get 2g. What I did was rooted phone, ran region unlock app, next I let the phone sit for a day, then a did a factory reset from the phones menu not custom recovery. Then when going through the set up wizard it prompted me to insert sim card then it said it was not an approved sim and gave options to continue or finish, selected finish, said complete and about 3-5 mins after booting up I got signal bars and phone was working. Although the hardware used are different these are dual band phones.
Never give up keep trying
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Developer's Note 3 for Verizon...

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Release Bringing One Last Surprise:
http://drippler.com/updates/share/samsung-galaxy-note-3-release-bringing-one-last-surprise Via j.mp/drippler_app
That's awesome. Would this phone work on Tmobile?
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To funny, wonder if it ships minus the Knox crap. One would think it must, thus in a roundabout kinda way, Samsung is/was aware of the issues Knox would create for developers, modders, rooters etc.. After popping the Knox flag..
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I'd grab that phone for sure if it works on Tmobile. You think it will?
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Warrior1975 said:
I'd grab that phone for sure if it works on Tmobile. You think it will?
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Verizon is CDMA. We are GSM. They don't have SIM cards. They use ESN #'s.
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Oh well
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Verizon is CDMA. We are GSM. They don't have SIM cards. They use ESN #'s.
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All LTE devices (even Sprint's and Verizon's) take SIM cards. Also, that same cellular radio that handles the LTE almost always does GSM/HSPA as well, all integrated on the same radio. Furthermore, Verizon is in the habit of leaving their LTE devices SIM-unlocked, so they can be used on GSM carriers. As long as the phone supports the appropriate bands, it will work on T-Mobile. However, I don't believe the VZW Note 3 supports the AWS bands that T-Mobile uses for most of their HSPA+ coverage. I doubt the developer edition would be any different.

darkkterror said:
All LTE devices (even Sprint's and Verizon's) take SIM cards. Also, that same cellular radio that handles the LTE almost always does GSM/HSPA as well, all integrated on the same radio. Furthermore, Verizon is in the habit of leaving their LTE devices SIM-unlocked, so they can be used on GSM carriers. As long as the phone supports the appropriate bands, it will work on T-Mobile. However, I don't believe the VZW Note 3 supports the AWS bands that T-Mobile uses for most of their HSPA+ coverage. I doubt the developer edition would be any different.
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My note 2 didn't have a sim card from Sprint.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
My note 2 didn't have a sim card from Sprint.
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Sprint chose to have the SIM cards embedded into the device so that they couldn't be removed. They're not as open with the GSM part of their LTE phones as Verizon has been. If you read the label on the side of the box, it would have listed an ICCID number, which is the SIM card number for that device. The Sprint version of the Galaxy S4 had the SIM card tray accessible, unlike their previous LTE phones. Not sure if they continued that with the Note 3 or went back to embedding them.

darkkterror said:
All LTE devices (even Sprint's and Verizon's) take SIM cards. Also, that same cellular radio that handles the LTE almost always does GSM/HSPA as well, all integrated on the same radio. Furthermore, Verizon is in the habit of leaving their LTE devices SIM-unlocked, so they can be used on GSM carriers. As long as the phone supports the appropriate bands, it will work on T-Mobile. However, I don't believe the VZW Note 3 supports the AWS bands that T-Mobile uses for most of their HSPA+ coverage. I doubt the developer edition would be any different.
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I was able to use my Verizon Note 2 on AT&T, but never got anything better than 3g speeds. Which is good enough for some, but I need my LTE.

aimfire72 said:
I was able to use my Verizon Note 2 on AT&T, but never got anything better than 3g speeds. Which is good enough for some, but I need my LTE.
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That's precisely why it's important to take note of the bands that the phone supports and the bands that the carrier requires for their various services (UMTS/HSPA, LTE, GSM/EDGE). I briefly popped my T-Mobile SIM into my VZW Note 2 and could only get Edge because the VZW Note 2 doesn't support the AWS frequencies that T-Mobile uses for HSPA in my area.

Can I take my rooted Tmobile Note 3 to Verizon?

I moved to Charlottesville, VA recently and the Tmobile coverage is really awful. Is it possible to take my rooted Tmobile Note 3 and use it on the Verizon network? I know it works on AT&T as I put my buddy's SIM card in and was able to connect to the network, but Verizon has the best coverage out here.
If I have to flash a new ROM or change the radio that's fine, I just need to know how to do it and if it's even possible.

No, not possible.

rjohnstone said:
No, not possible.
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But the Verizon version can come to Tmobile, right?

o_0 a t-mobile device to Verizon. lol I thought questions like this died in 2005
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Lucas155 said:
I moved to Charlottesville, VA recently and the Tmobile coverage is really awful. Is it possible to take my rooted Tmobile Note 3 and use it on the Verizon network? I know it works on AT&T as I put my buddy's SIM card in and was able to connect to the network, but Verizon has the best coverage out here.
If I have to flash a new ROM or change the radio that's fine, I just need to know how to do it and if it's even possible.
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It is impssible to use a T-Mobile phone on a Verizon network. T-Mobile and AT&T run on the GSM type of network and Verizon and I believe Sprint run on CDMA which aren't capatible. It doesn't matter if you are rooted or not.

defcon888 said:
It is impssible to use a T-Mobile phone on a Verizon network. T-Mobile and AT&T run on the GSM type of network and Verizon and I believe Sprint run on CDMA which aren't capatible. It doesn't matter if you are rooted or not.
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I've seen several instances of Verizon customers using their Note 3 on Tmobile. Just thought it might go the other way.

Verizon LTE devices come SIM unlocked for legal reasons (Verizon made a deal with the FCC not to SIM lock their devices in exchange for being able to use LTE Band 13 700 MHz).
Some of their older/"first-gen" LTE devices don't support GSM at all (e.g. Galaxy Nexus). But all nowadays do. The Galaxy S4 and newer support T-Mobile's LTE band. LTE is a GSM-based technology, and people travel as well. So pretty much all of their phones are GSM-enabled nowadays. Same for Sprint (except their phones will reject any US carrier SIMs specifically).
Anyways, the answer is no. AT&T and T-Mobile devices don't have CDMA enabled. And even if they did, Verizon and Sprint don't allow competitors' phones onto their networks.