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Hello,
now that the UK update is out, I'm wondering whether to let my locked/unrooted arc update via Sony?
Am I going to see much worse performance compared to the custom versions available here?
What happens with the 3 hardware keys on the Arc with ICS?
Are there any real gains compared to Gingerbread?
I've got three options I think:
1) go with a modded gingerbread - maybe arconium
2) stock ICS automatic update
3) modified ICS.
I don't really like tweaking my phone. If I update it, it will be months (if ever) before I update it again, so I want to be reasonably sure that all the major aspects will function - which is what's drawing me to the automatic sony update.
Thanks for any comments.
r.
r_southampton said:
Am I going to see much worse performance compared to the custom versions available here?
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Not "much worse", but it's slightly slower than GB Roms. IMO, it's still more than fast enough to be usable as a daily driver.
r_southampton said:
What happens with the 3 hardware keys on the Arc with ICS?
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They do pretty much the same thing. There are no on-screen keys, unlike the Galaxy Nexus.
r_southampton said:
Are there any real gains compared to Gingerbread?
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Check this video. There are some additional features not shown in it, such as:
- Integrated data monitor;
- Slightly better camera quality (but slightly worse video recording quality);
- Face unlock;
- Some improved Google apps, in both usability and looks (namely Gmail and Maps);
- The ability to freeze apps (useful if you have an annoying app that likes to consume the battery but you don't want to uninstall);
- Some apps only work on ICS (although there's still very few of them);
- And more...
I had 4.2.2 installed official no root.I was not happy.First of all
1)Volume of equalizer and frequency control was buggy under 4.2.2 i could not move the sliders and do anything it seemed instead of increasing volume or the frequency it messed it up and did the opposite
2)under 4.2.2 i noticed memory leak,memory as hours passed would go over until the phone would halt a little.and application response was laggy.
3)WiFi tether did not work at all
so i downgraded after using the nexus toolkit,i unlocked boot loader,installed 4.1.2 rooted,installed recovery,and then
i installed the new camera 4.2 apk,the new swype keyboard and the clock of 4.2.
Now
a)volume is fixed and frequencies work OK on the sliders of the Google music equalizer.
b)memory leak is gone,the memory is released after applications are closed or used no more i have the halts after hours and i do not have to close applications or clear cache of memory.
c)have not tested WiFi tether yet
My question is why did Google mess so much the 4.2.2 ?it seems bad to me,4.1.2 with some patches is the way to go.Less lag,more speed,better volume,and all the features of 4.2.2 with the correct patches.
And i have some questions .Is there a way to use the new status screen of android 4.2.2 to 4.1 ?
Can i somehow skip the update screen that tells me there is a new operating system update?
I do NOT want to go back to 4.2.2.
My question, Why do people jump on the massive update bandwagon? Its an early release, bugs are inevitable and then people outright complain about them when no one is forcing them to update.
Can you use the lock screen notifications: Not natively. Third party apps are your only solution
Can you stop the update notification: Yes, there are a few threads regarding this
iLeopard said:
My question, Why do people jump on the massive update bandwagon? Its an early release, bugs are inevitable and then people outright complain about them when no one is forcing them to update.
Can you use the lock screen notifications: Not natively. Third party apps are your only solution
Can you stop the update notification: Yes, there are a few threads regarding this
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I updated because the update screen was nagging me all the time,i wanted to test what it looks like to have 4.2.I installed 4.2.0 and then 4.2.2 for a week 4.2.2 was ok,but after i noticed those problems.
The phone is forcing me to update,because it says a new update is there,all the time it is annoying.And Google is forcing you to update by the ota air updates.They should have better technical support,many people have posted threads regarding the problems of volume or the memory leaks,but they have not responded at all despite the fact that they are high priority bugs.
What I mean is, people on give updates this massive hype with threads massing dozens of pages in comments with people that absolutely need the latest OS update. I don't understand whats so special about bug patches that makes people insane about them. Personally, I'm still rocking 4.2.1 with no update notification and don't plan on updating any time soon. Custom ROM's don't offer you the annoying update notification as devs usually sort that out.
Volume and memory leaks won't kill anyone. A couple of nagging users regarding on the bugs wont get the issues solved any quicker, patience is a virtue. As far as customer support goes...its a FREE open source OS.
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What I mean is, people on give updates this massive hype with threads massing dozens of pages in comments with people that absolutely need the latest OS update. I don't understand whats so special about bug patches that makes people insane about them. Personally, I'm still rocking 4.2.1 with no update notification and don't plan on updating any time soon. Custom ROM's don't offer you the annoying update notification as devs usually sort that out.
Volume and memory leaks won't kill anyone. A couple of nagging users regarding on the bugs wont get the issues solved any quicker, patience is a virtue. As far as customer support goes...its a FREE open source OS.
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Volume problem is big.Having a phone no matter if it has 10 processors and gigabytes of ram is useless if you cant hear it well.I dont mean it should have the volume of an big stereo headphone but it should be better.
Memory leak,wanting to open email and have to wait 10 seconds is a waste of time.I paid money to have a machine that would have speed.Having such bugs really makes me feel it should be fixed. (now this is only a 4.2.2 bug that happens after some hours,solution is to clear data cache of some applications,or change wallpaper as i read in a thread)
And yet i noticed that you have 4.2.1 .If you want install the 4.2.2 you will see it has a memory leak bug being discussed by lots of people.
Plus music equilizer does not work.I mean sound,we use phone with our ears if it can't produce sound,then what to use it for?
These are serious bugs i think.But i agree with you,patience is the key.and having a 4.1.2 or earlier version more stable seems better than to kick in for the latest full of bugs
You should have noted the small speaker on the GN before purchasing the device.
If volume is such a large issue to you, roll back to ICS or clean your ears (sarcasm implied). Volume + works on that. I can hear mine perfectly fine.
iLeopard said:
You should have noted the small speaker on the GN before purchasing the device.
If volume is such a large issue to you, roll back to ICS or clean your ears (sarcasm implied). Volume + works on that. I can hear mine perfectly fine.
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I sent my phone to Samsung service and they told me it had faulty speakers,and they replaced them,i suspect large number of phones may have faulty speakers (volume was very low,not even the louder jb patch that existed on those forum could fix it),but now it sounds OK.My comment was that i tried to listen to music but the bugs in the os made it lower volume and frequencies instead of raising them,on 4.1.2 Google music equalizer works OK
I considered downgrading at one point.. We should be happy with our devices. Anyway, i haven't tried this, but at one point wanted it, and it should work to disable the update. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35426761&postcount=4 I know I got a little annoyed that i couldn't just ignore the update as i often do for a while.
Actually I did it too. My Nexus performs best on jo54k. The only feature I really miss from 4.2.x is quick settings tab.
3-4 days have passed 4.1.2 is the way to go from now on.4.2.2 is buggy. Memory leak is serious I wonder when will they fix it? The status screen is the only thing I miss but not so much as days pass .stability and performance is top priority now for me and 4.1.2 does it
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3-4 days have passed 4.1.2 is the way to go from now on.4.2.2 is buggy. Memory leak is serious I wonder when will they fix it? The status screen is the only thing I miss but not so much as days pass .stability and performance is top priority now for me and 4.1.2 does it
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Fully agree: didn't had time to notice the memory leaks, but at least the multiple bluetooth issues encountrered have been a sufficient good reason to revert to 4.1.2 and stick with it.
I have a question regarding stock rooted ROMs.can I use another kernel ?if I do how will I change the parameters?the stock ROM does not have the options other ROMs have.so if I install a kernel like Franco how can I over clock GPU or the CPU?is there a utility? I am asking this because I want to install the audio mod louder nexus billy jean it says to have a rooted phone but a kernel with audio patches .will stock kernel on rooted phone do?
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sorry if i bump this thread but i felt the same issue just like the OP said. but my problem is number 2, RAM leak. my whatsapp RAM usage is about 150mb. what happend? and my available RAM is only 80mb.
i ask my friend who use S3 (same have 1 GB RAM device) and he's whatsapp RAM usage is only 25mb (android 4.1.2 stock)
did google noticed this RAM leak?
iLeopard said:
My question, Why do people jump on the massive update bandwagon? Its an early release, bugs are inevitable and then people outright complain about them when no one is forcing them to update.
Can you use the lock screen notifications: Not natively. Third party apps are your only solution
Can you stop the update notification: Yes, there are a few threads regarding this
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We update because we have a nexus. Updates are available for us. Also how would they know what to fix if everyone waited to update? I don't run stock but even if I did I would always try the latest update. Thankfully I run cm10.1 so I have no issues and it gets updated daily. But the devs do a lot of hard work and your device gets updates. I don't see telling everyone to hold of on updating is a great word of advice.
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Syfer_Fever said:
sorry if i bump this thread but i felt the same issue just like the OP said. but my problem is number 2, RAM leak. my whatsapp RAM usage is about 150mb. what happend? and my available RAM is only 80mb.
i ask my friend who use S3 (same have 1 GB RAM device) and he's whatsapp RAM usage is only 25mb (android 4.1.2 stock)
did google noticed this RAM leak?
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if you have 4 .2.x memory leaks are there . on 4.1.2 there is sure no memory leak.I noticed it . we have to wait for Google to fix it
Was it easy to downgrade? Did you use the toolkit to flash to the factory rom, and used the same GN toolkit to root?
nikodr said:
I had 4.2.2 installed official no root.I was not happy.First of all
1)Volume of equalizer and frequency control was buggy under 4.2.2 i could not move the sliders and do anything it seemed instead of increasing volume or the frequency it messed it up and did the opposite
2)under 4.2.2 i noticed memory leak,memory as hours passed would go over until the phone would halt a little.and application response was laggy.
3)WiFi tether did not work at all
so i downgraded after using the nexus toolkit,i unlocked boot loader,installed 4.1.2 rooted,installed recovery,and then
i installed the new camera 4.2 apk,the new swype keyboard and the clock of 4.2.
Now
a)volume is fixed and frequencies work OK on the sliders of the Google music equalizer.
b)memory leak is gone,the memory is released after applications are closed or used no more i have the halts after hours and i do not have to close applications or clear cache of memory.
c)have not tested WiFi tether yet
My question is why did Google mess so much the 4.2.2 ?it seems bad to me,4.1.2 with some patches is the way to go.Less lag,more speed,better volume,and all the features of 4.2.2 with the correct patches.
And i have some questions .Is there a way to use the new status screen of android 4.2.2 to 4.1 ?
Can i somehow skip the update screen that tells me there is a new operating system update?
I do NOT want to go back to 4.2.2.
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Yes . I backed up data. Locked boot loader unlocked it again to force a format to get rid of the multi user directory left overs of 4.2.2 and from toolkit i installed 4.1.2 . I rooted installed busybox and and custom recovery .galaxy nexus toolkit is a fantastic application
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As stated in the title I have the AT&T ion and just like everyone else I got sick of running ICS. I decided to flash the international jelly bean firmware but no matter how many times I do I keep getting the battery issue, lag within my app drawer, and the HD video recording problem (which I know can't be fixed yet). Some people say the battery settles over time or after running down but my main issue is the lag. It's extremely annoying, and I only get it when scrolling through the app drawer, not the homescreens. I tried rooting and tweaking, clean installs (even without keeping the baseband) and even using third party launchers but no matter what it still lags. In Nova launcher for example I get it while opeining the app drawer. I've searched all over about this but I've only seen one other person with this problem. I have no idea what the problem is because it's obviously not the launcher itself, or the kernel, or the firmware in general but I can't seem to get rid of it unless to use ICS. So my question is: anyone have any idea how to fix this? Thanks in advance
I am running the 28i rogers with the Honami home and don't have these issues. Restoring apps from a ics Sony backup can cause problems too. With standby mode I get a day from it on average. Try a clean install of the Rogers rom and de bloat it.
U could try to supercharge it..
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Thanks for the responses. But like I said it's not the launcher or anything like that. I used the stock international firmware and had it rooted and debloated, and I used the honami launcher which was definitely an improvement but didn't solve the problem. The battery thing seems to be hit or miss, i would say about half of those on jelly bean seem to have it. I'll look into supercharging it. Do you have a link to anything in the forums? thanks
Im having two issues with the update.
1) Camera app takes longer to start than when I had Jelly bean.
2)The settings Menu lags a hell lot..its really annoying because I expected an increase in system performance when I updated to 4.4.2.
3) Scrolling response isnt fluid and feels worse than before
Im using stock Xperia ROM and on my Xperia ZL (C6503) and im really disappointed because it took Sony long enough to release the update which isnt even working smoothly.
If anyone can suggest a solution for either or both these issues please help me out.
Really regret not going for the Nexus devices now
dwayne27894 said:
Im having two issues with the update.
1) Camera app takes longer to start than when I had Jelly bean.
2)The settings Menu lags a hell lot..its really annoying because I expected an increase in system performance when I updated to 4.4.2.
3) Scrolling response isnt fluid and feels worse than before
Im using stock Xperia ROM and on my Xperia ZL (C6503) and im really disappointed because it took Sony long enough to release the update which isnt even working smoothly.
If anyone can suggest a solution for either or both these issues please help me out.
Really regret not going for the Nexus devices now
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for the time being " Enable force 2D rendering in Option developer "
xtremepredador said:
for the time being " Enable force 2D rendering in Option developer "
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Thanks alot..it fixed the settings lag and responsiveness problem
could people tell me if it's worth going to 4.4.4 from 4.3. I want to know if most of the issue from the 4.4.3 kitkat version has been fixed now with the new update and how good is the battery life now? Any overheating or random reboots?
It's much better than 4.4.2
Smooth,no battery drain,better multitask...etc
I think .283 is worth update
I am using stock 4.4.4rom&advanced stock kernel
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You guys forgot to mention worse camera quality
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55363852&postcount=24
i just updated mine to 4.4.4.. and upon fresh first install, it was very laggy, and it was overheating very badly that i had to power off to cool it down... not a promising start...
better than 230,but it is all your choice,lol
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You guys forgot to mention worse camera quality
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55363852&postcount=24
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Ehh really?? I use my camera a lot so maybe I should just stay in 4.3
In my opinion... it does worth!
Soon after I had updated, I've already noticed the incredible change: No graphics lag! (No 2D GPU rendering anymore)
With two days of testing I had the conclusion that the battery lasts an average of 16 hours! Said "average" because of the continuous use of the device. I was listening to musics, using Skype in conferences, 3G/4G active all day long.
Conclusion: Feeling free of the lag from the previous update, and although the continuous use I got 16 hours of battery, and now it is not overheating and not noticed "freezes" on the screen. I can assure you it's worth the update!
the launcher for mine seems laggy, notification pull down still laggy, though battery seems strong now and overheating is over with.... i thought they got over this lag, in 4.4.4, but for mine still seems to be here.. makes me miss 4.3 that so much...
4.4.2 was so bad, I had went back to 4.3.... Upgraded to 4.4.4 and its great.... no issues... battery life is about the same as 4.3... its smoother than 4.3, and phone temp range is about the same as 4.3.... overall its pretty good
xperia zL
Hi guys,could anyone tell me if im going to update my xperia zL to the latest version of android 4.4.4 kitkat, would be the root access of my phone will be gone? Please help, i cant decide if i should update it or not. Thanks!
my software download was interrupted at 21% progress. had to resume later on.. could this be the reason why my firmware seems to botched and laggy? Do i need to download from start to finish without interruption to ensure a smooth installation?
jaedi said:
Hi guys,could anyone tell me if im going to update my xperia zL to the latest version of android 4.4.4 kitkat, would be the root access of my phone will be gone? Please help, i cant decide if i should update it or not. Thanks!
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Yes you will lose root. Maybe if you OTA from 4.4.2 rooted it will remain, but I'm not sure.
But it doesn't matter, because you can easily re-root 4.4.4 by flasing 4.4.2 kernel and rooting, then going back to 4.4.4 kernel .
Yeah I found pictures has more noises at 4.4.4
But without battery drain & high temperature it still worth updated
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irvingyeh85 said:
Yeah I found pictures has more noises at 4.4.4
But without battery drain & high temperature it still worth updated
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Finally someone noticed the noise
well worth it...
I updated from 4.4.2 and was using wake lock killer to protect the battery.
After the normal update and playing on Saturday...
Well unpluged at 10:00 AM today (Sunday) and at 10:30 PM I still have 47%, with lots of web browsing, on and off the wifi etc.
I have not really looked into the camera, but for me OK is good enough, so I expect to stay here untill we get a "L" update ... CM 12 maybe...
Hi everybody,
i am on [ROM] [4.4.4] ParanoidAndroid 4+ right now (rooted/unlocked Bootlaoder) and due to some bugs i want to try the .283 stock. Do i have to do anything else than flashing the new software via flashtool, e.g. wipe something? Never went back to a stock rom with my ZL...
Greetz
4.4.2 is bad and not smooth.
4.4.4 is awesome and really smooth.
Worth updates.
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Yes you will lose root. Maybe if you OTA from 4.4.2 rooted it will remain, but I'm not sure.
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Didn't lose root on the OTA.
i personally prefer 4.3. the 4.4 notification/quick settings drop down menu design just doesn't do it for me.
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i personally prefer 4.3. the 4.4 notification/quick settings drop down menu design just doesn't do it for me.
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I agree. I cant See any, I say again, any improovment in 4.4. In 4.3 the menu design was far more better. All phone are smoothly in 4.3.
Even the keyboard on 4.4 lags.
I made an upgrade directly from 4.3 to 4.4 and lags. I did a factory reset and lag is continually. Simply like keyboard lags a lot and irritating...
Now I have to search on the forum how to back to 4.3. Anyone can put a link to it?
Tks
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