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Hello,
I´ve just bought a Galaxy Nexus and had great expectations about it being lag free. This was even my first impression but after 2 days of use I can see there are some actions that display a clear visual lag/frame drop.
- On the home screen, if I switch panels using my finger it goes great but if I press the center button to get back to the center panel the transition isn´t smooth (frame drop)
- The blue glow animations from pressing the buttons is not smooth, I can see clearly the transition from the strong glow to black again (stage by stage). It´s even stronger in the settings app, where I press any of the options (battery, app, display, ...) and it takes 1 second to open the new activity: during this time I can see 3 stages before the glow disappears.
- In the apps/widgets list, when I scroll left I can see the panel stops and quickly starts to run smooth again.
The phone came as a yakjuzs but I unlocked the bootloader and updated to yakju 4.0.2 (bootloader, radio and os).
I ran some benchmarks and got lower results than people posted on the internet:
- Quadrant: once 1419 and once 1881. Framerate on the graphics test were: 20/25 on the ladder, 7/8 on the planet and 10/20 on the dna
- Antutu: total score 6140, 2d graphics: 265, 3d graphics: 1184
Are those numbers and behaviors normal? I expected more from the device since it has 2d aceleration (activated for all the apps by the developers settings).
Any chance my upgrade to yakju 4.0.2 is the reason of this performance?
I hope you guys can help me
Gabriel Simões
ps: after upgrading I got stuck in an infinite loop so I did a factory reset and was finally able to use the phone.
(sorry for the double post on the general android forum)
Kill quadrant with fire please as it means nothing . A lot of your issues cleared up with 4.0.3.
Also don't run live walls unless they are meant for ics. That does not include all the stock ones. Phase beam and Galaxy are the only ones from Google that are ics ready. 3rd party I have no idea.
4.0.3 drastically improved my benchmarks and overall performance, went from around your scores up to 3100 with a 4.0.3 ROM and franco's nightly kernel and rid almost all lag in the UI
I specifically remember on the planet portion of the Quadrant Standard benchmark there was a whole chunk missing out of the larger planet while I was on stock 4.0.2...flashed 4.0.3 and it runs at 60 frames a second
I'm also not sure what effect ICS has on the benchmark's accuracy, if any
I'd suggest flashing a new ROM if you were planning on rooting anyway, if not hold out for the official OTA
Attached is my newest bench (franco's 13 with bixgie's 4.0.3 build 4, OC'd to 1350 on higher score and stock clocks lower score)
Its all fake.
Planets uses software rendering on sgx gpus.The renderer was removed from your rom. Its smoke and mirrors because no other apps use that like planets does. The quadrant scores arent translating to performance, and 4.0.3 on its own doesnt improve the scores. It does clear up some graphics and performance issues though.
Its nice to know I didn´t fVck my cellphone on it´s first day!
I´ve been thinking if I should upgrade to a non official 4.0.3 since I got the nexus to have a standard plataform to develop. Audio engine changed a lot from 2.2 to 4.0 and I have to update apps.
By the other side I´d like to lower voltage to improve even more my battery (I get to the end of the day with 50% left).
How is franco's 4.0.3 working for you? Is it too modded?
Also, any idea on when 4.0.3 official will come?
Last but not least, any improvements to screen quality (colors at least)?
tnx
adrynalyne said:
Its all fake.
Planets uses software rendering on sgx gpus.The renderer was removed from your rom. Its smoke and mirrors because no other apps use that like planets does.
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Are there any more accurate benchmarks you'd recommend? (other than authentic usage of course) When I was looking Quadrant seemed to be the most popular (which I understand doesn't make it the best, but I figured it's a good starting point)
Also I've been using franco's nightly's since I got my phone and it's been excellent for me. Better battery life, performance, added features and patches are a nice touch too. Can't say it's too modded since I've yet to run into any issues with any of the changes he's made.
Link to franco's kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422956
Remember - ICS is still new. Most apps/games still aren't "optimized" for it.
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Quadrant isn't ICS optimized and only uses one core I believe.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Kill quadrant with fire please as it means nothing . A lot of your issues cleared up with 4.0.3.
Also don't run live walls unless they are meant for ics. That does not include all the stock ones. Phase beam and Galaxy are the only ones from Google that are ics ready. 3rd party I have no idea.
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Can you explain what you mean by "ics ready"? Do you mean that all the stock live wallpapers but 2 on the phone aren't optimized? Why would google release the phone like that?
I only ask because I was planning on using the nexus LWP
The Galaxy Nexus laggs with every Livewallpaper I've tried even with firmware 4.0.3 ...
Just don't use them
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Can you explain what you mean by "ics ready"? Do you mean that all the stock live wallpapers but 2 on the phone aren't optimized? Why would google release the phone like that?
I only ask because I was planning on using the nexus LWP
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nobody knows why but google goofed because only 1 LWP works on the new nexus. every other one lags horribly. they must have completely overlooked it i guess.
Why do these retarded threads keep popping up, there is already tons of info on this.
Use the search son
sent from my googletron
Using static wallpapers since day one.
Things I do like a lot right now: battery and 3g speed. For a guy that used to use a milestone + cm6, this thing flies and handles 1 day of job with spare juice.
I´d like to know what changed so much from stock 4.0.2 kernel and franco's 4.0.3
Shakes head. Goes back to superb nexus experience.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
@rbiter said:
Shakes head. Goes back to superb nexus experience.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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That different?
Colemak said:
Are there any more accurate benchmarks you'd recommend? (other than authentic usage of course) When I was looking Quadrant seemed to be the most popular (which I understand doesn't make it the best, but I figured it's a good starting point)
Also I've been using franco's nightly's since I got my phone and it's been excellent for me. Better battery life, performance, added features and patches are a nice touch too. Can't say it's too modded since I've yet to run into any issues with any of the changes he's made.
Link to franco's kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422956
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Antutu is better but as for how accurate, I know not.
ChongoDroid said:
Why do these retarded threads keep popping up, there is already tons of info on this.
Use the search son
sent from my googletron
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So retarded that people still come here with doubts ...
I will try to improve my search skills, improve your invisibility ones ...
Gabriel Simões said:
I will try to improve my search skills, improve your invisibility ones ...
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LOL....sorry that was funny
deezid said:
The Galaxy Nexus laggs with every Livewallpaper I've tried even with firmware 4.0.3 ...
Just don't use them
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A lot of the lag in ICS is caused by the animated soft keys. This is fixed in cm9 by having the softkeys have no animation and simply just light up instead of lighting up and fading like before.
blackhand1001 said:
A lot of the lag in ICS is caused by the animated soft keys. This is fixed in cm9 by having the softkeys have no animation and simply just light up instead of lighting up and fading like before.
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Those animatios are really instable in 4.0.2 std:
- If I open the notification bar and press home only once the animation looks great ... if I keep pressing it will lag on the 3rd or 4th time and on...
- The animation in settings menu is terrible and lags a lot ... it takes like 1 second to open the battery activity and while that I can see clearly 3 stages of animation fading out...
Hi. May I ask what are the improvements for the latest ICS 4.0.4 firmware for Arc S?
I already have the update, but I didn't start updating my phone yet.
Can someone post some performance and hardware improvements. Thanks!
Feels ALOT smoother than the 4.0.3 release. It's got a new baseband, and I have noticed quite a few bug fixes.
The only thing that still sucks balls is the speed of the dialer and contacts lookup, as this is a primary phone function, it's shocking how poorly coded it is, when comparable apps from the store like exDialer are so much faster.
Come on Sony, if as you claim you want to be up there as one of the big Android sellers next year, then you need to sort these lots of little things out, as lots of little things make big differences.
Did they fixed the wifi bug???
Sent from my LT18i using xda premium
CrazyPeter said:
The only thing that still sucks balls is the speed of the dialer and contacts lookup, as this is a primary phone function, it's shocking how poorly coded it is, when comparable apps from the store like exDialer are so much faster.
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WHat!? Really? mine opens in less than a half second...
The battery bug for me is totally gone. I will need some more time testing but so far it seems to be even better than GB for me.
Had no problems with WiFi and tbh its improved for me also. It connects so quick when turning on, the fastest I've seen WiFi connect on any firmware across my various Sony phones
The whole experience is almost perfectly smooth, even with all my apps in the background and heavy auto sync apps (facebook, fb for xperia, friendcaster, exchange email, imap email, whatsapp and google with music, instant upload etc)
Only thing is I would agree with the dialer/contacts app being slow, but usually for me its only when entering it, once its loaded its usually quite smooth I only put this down to all my contacts which are all linked to facebook, google, whatsapp etc
If it helps, I should mention I use Go Launcher as my home launcher
Would highly recommend upgrading
Hm, the slowness of opening Phone or Contacts was the main reason why I reverted to 2.3.4 after trying 4.0.3 so this makes me think it's not worth to try 4.0.4 after all.
Are there any real advantages of 4.0.4 over 2.3.4? Beyond a fresh interface and higher version numbers? Is game performance still worse in ICS than GB?
What about the home launcher is it still slow as hell/Now im on arconium muiu and i really like it but i still want to know about the 4.0.4
losdrivare said:
Hm, the slowness of opening Phone or Contacts was the main reason why I reverted to 2.3.4 after trying 4.0.3 so this makes me think it's not worth to try 4.0.4 after all.
Are there any real advantages of 4.0.4 over 2.3.4? Beyond a fresh interface and higher version numbers? Is game performance still worse in ICS than GB?
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4.0.3 for me was really slow and poor all round. Although I mentioned it is slow in 4.0.4, it is only as slow as it was for me on 2.3.4. I wouldn't say its any slower. And so far it seems smoother once it has opened. Hope this helps!
Feels much faster than 4.0.3 but light notifications aren't working and they're quite important to me.
It's far from perfect.
Hi. Thank you for all of your replies. I'm currently updating my phone thru PCC.
Did they fix digital compass bug in google map??
CrazyPeter said:
Feels ALOT smoother than the 4.0.3 release. It's got a new baseband, and I have noticed quite a few bug fixes.
The only thing that still sucks balls is the speed of the dialer and contacts lookup, as this is a primary phone function, it's shocking how poorly coded it is, when comparable apps from the store like exDialer are so much faster.
Come on Sony, if as you claim you want to be up there as one of the big Android sellers next year, then you need to sort these lots of little things out, as lots of little things make big differences.
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It is a lot smoother than the last 4.0.3 release (that release was CRAP) BUT it still is not as smooth as GB
I think I can stand using 4.0.4 for a couple more days, then I'm flashing back to the buttery smoothness of GB.
I hope the next ICS release will be up to the quality of their GB releases.
sleepsus said:
It is a lot smoother than the last 4.0.3 release (that release was CRAP) BUT it still is not as smooth as GB
I think I can stand using 4.0.4 for a couple more days, then I'm flashing back to the buttery smoothness of GB.
I hope the next ICS release will be up to the quality of their GB releases.
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how about the Battery and the Camera improvements? Thanks!
I'm happy about the update, my Arc S got faster than I had from the previous version.
If you guys are experiencing slowness or lagspikes after the ICS update directly from PCC or SEUS.. It would be best to do a backup and do a master reset..
What sony did was update the software and pretty much synced the current software and existing info with the ICS 4.0.4 update instead of completely deleting the GB software and installing ICS..
I also did my daily routine with the new update to find out the battery life difference.. For me its much more efficient..
There is still the issue with the digital compass of google maps..
Some apps are not yet optimized for ICS but thats acceptable since ICS only holds a very small percentage of users compared to GB users..
The camera feels more faster in response time.. The update now has an option to enable/disable an on-screen shutter button.. But i still prefer the touch-screen snapping option instead of the shutter button option though..
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mikhail69 said:
If you guys are experiencing slowness or lagspikes after the ICS update directly from PCC or SEUS.. It would be best to do a backup and do a master reset..
What sony did was update the software and pretty much synced the current software and existing info with the ICS 4.0.4 update instead of completely deleting the GB software and installing ICS..
I also did my daily routine with the new update to find out the battery life difference.. For me its much more efficient..
There is still the issue with the digital compass of google maps..
Some apps are not yet optimized for ICS but thats acceptable since ICS only holds a very small percentage of users compared to GB users..
The camera feels more faster in response time.. The update now has an option to enable/disable an on-screen shutter button.. But i still prefer the touch-screen snapping option instead of the shutter button option though..
Sent from my MK16i using Tapatalk 2
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can you teach me how to do Master Reset? Thanks.
Btw, why does the camera image quality in 4.0.4 became blurry even it uses Auto-Focusing?
Hello,
I was very very excited about the news that CM9 now supports HWA and so is fully compatible with our beloved Defy.
After reading all the positive comments about no bugs, no lags, everything great, I installed it myself (from scratch) and must say that I was disappointed.
I used CM7 for a long time and it is still not bug free, but CM9 is far from RC or Stable I must say.
- boot time is long.
- Apps need much time to load
- overall snappieness is not as great as discribed
- quite a few apps do not respond and hang with a pop-up window about WAIT/KILL/REPORT
What I would like to know is: What is the advantage of CM9/ICS over CM7/GB?
What I love about ICS is the much more mature UI.
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Collected PRO's:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
- ICS controls look and work better (e.g a scrolling wheel for time selection)
- mature UI
Well, the cm9 the way it is today is a very initial port for a device that was in every way locked down from motorola for it does not exist and devs heroically tried to overcome difficulties.
It is not even a RC yet. So if you say cm7 is faster, more stable, better battery performance, you are probably correct, because its development is more mature . But why the the hell you are comparing them? What's your point in saying you are disappointed with the CM9?
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yes, so far, cm9 is not mature, you can stick to cm7 for a while then come back
why do I compare two versions of a firmware, well, I'd like to know the true advantages over cm7 so I can decide if its worth using it. i tried it and for now i think stableism is more important... but i'll be to curious soon anyway.
cm7 rocks
Ive been testing cm9 with and without HWA, both eppys and fuzz's builds. This weekend i decided to try Fuzz's cm7. I cant find any bugs and I was shocked at how much faster it was and scrolling home screens is smoother ( i use Mihome launcher with the superb leather theme! ). I wont be switching to cm9.... but cm10 is another matter.
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Ive been testing cm9 with and without HWA, both eppys and fuzz's builds. This weekend i decided to try Fuzz's cm7. I cant find any bugs and I was shocked at how much faster it was and scrolling home screens is smoother ( i use Mihome launcher with the superb leather theme! ). I wont be switching to cm9.... but cm10 is another matter.
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I am expecting cm10 too, lol
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I am expecting cm10 too, lol
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me too... I was dissapointed about CM9 too, because i thought it would be faster with the HWA enabled but it didn't happen. You're right when you say the UI looks more mature than gb's one (in fact i LOVE the ics UI). I hope all the bugs can be fixed and have a good ROM after all.
Have you guys tried the fast black edition 1.2???
Best and fastest ICS i´ve used. There should be a new version coming soon, since 1.2 is before de HWA stuff.
Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.
Some of you guys are missing the point of a development forum badly as well as what cm9 port represents. Are you disappointed, seriously?
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I was disappointed because expectations were high due to overly optimistic comments in the according threads.
On the other hand I am very thankful that we have the opportunity to use and test ICS and performance and bugs get better eventually... I hope so!
Sincerely.
measel said:
I was disappointed because expectations were high due to overly optimistic comments in the according threads.
On the other hand I am very thankful that we have the opportunity to use and test ICS and performance and bugs get better eventually... I hope so!
Sincerely.
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Yes, we're complaning about "minimal bugs" compared with other devices which can't run ICS from the start...
They said they're working to release a RC so... we'll wait
Mettanine said:
Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.
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I agree and want to add:
+ ICS controls looks and works better - E.g a Scrolling wheel for time selection
Jelly bean going source today..
I would anytime go on CM9 then CM7 for the obvious reason that it looks beautiful and I love the settings page of it! It has good features. I have a neo V so I know what it feels to have ICS on your device
Mettanine said:
Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.
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Exactly. I almost considered switching back to CM7 until CM9 was a bit more polished, but I realized I'd loose out on the MUCH SUPERIOR gmail app, and others, as well as the refinements in settings and controls.
For the record, anyone looking for a nearly identical ICS launcher (to trebuchet) for CM7 should give Holo Launcher a try. In many ways, it is more feature rich than trebuchet. I couldn't link to the play store page. (new user)
A problem I always had with the Xperia S is that the whole thing feels extremely choppy and clunky. I have extremely low tolerance for choppyness, and this phone has always felt really clunky for me, it's hard to pretend the choppyness isn't there. There is nothing that makes me feel good about a device than silky smoothness, and even though the phone is still very fast and reactive, the slow framerate and microstutters are extremely noticeable, especially if you ever used a smooth device before (such as my good old Xperia Ray on gingerbread which was smooth like an iPhone, and when I upgraded it to ICS I couldn't stand it anymore because it became horrendously stuttery).
I was wondering, since Project Butter promises fully accelerated UI and elimination of the persistent lag that all android phones have, do you think this will finally resolve the slugginess of this phone's stock rom?
Is PB an OS features that all phones running JB have, or do the developers (in this case Sony's) have to implement it on their own?
Also, regarding the current stock ICS, there is nothing that helped with the constant lag and choppyness in the UI, the only thing that DOES make a difference is enabling "force GPU rendering", it's found under "developer options" and disabled by default. Once you enable it, scrolling lists (such as the settings menu) will become silky smooth (you have to go back to home and then back to settings menu to notice the difference). With this disabled, scrolling every list menu is embarassingly choppy. It doesn't cause any battery drain so I recommend everyone to enable it if you haven't already.
I seriously hope JB will resolve the constant choppyness of this phone's UI.
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A problem I always had with the Xperia S is that the whole thing feels extremely choppy and clunky. I have extremely low tolerance for choppyness, and this phone has always felt really clunky for me, it's hard to pretend the choppyness isn't there. There is nothing that makes me feel good about a device than silky smoothness, and even though the phone is still very fast and reactive, the slow framerate and microstutters are extremely noticeable, especially if you ever used a smooth device before (such as my good old Xperia Ray on gingerbread which was smooth like an iPhone, and when I upgraded it to ICS I couldn't stand it anymore because it became horrendously stuttery).
I was wondering, since Project Butter promises fully accelerated UI and elimination of the persistent lag that all android phones have, do you think this will finally resolve the slugginess of this phone's stock rom?
Is PB an OS features that all phones running JB have, or do the developers (in this case Sony's) have to implement it on their own?
Also, regarding the current stock ICS, there is nothing that helped with the constant lag and choppyness in the UI, the only thing that DOES make a difference is enabling "force GPU rendering", it's found under "developer options" and disabled by default. Once you enable it, scrolling lists (such as the settings menu) will become silky smooth (you have to go back to home and then back to settings menu to notice the difference). With this disabled, scrolling every list menu is embarassingly choppy. It doesn't cause any battery drain so I recommend everyone to enable it if you haven't already.
I seriously hope JB will resolve the constant choppyness of this phone's UI.
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If you're really curious you could flash the test version DoomlorD posted. There's also this video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNLODO3YOnA
Looks like it is more fluent, as was expected, but ofcourse that's a nearly empty firmware. Some 3rd party apps can make your phone a lot slower, even when they're supposedly not running. A clean installation of ICS is also quite fluent compared to the lags I've had caused by some apps before I removed or restricted them.
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If you're really curious you could flash the test version DoomlorD posted. There's also this video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNLODO3YOnA
Looks like it is more fluent, as was expected, but ofcourse that's a nearly empty firmware. Some 3rd party apps can make your phone a lot slower, even when they're supposedly not running. A clean installation of ICS is also quite fluent compared to the lags I've had caused by some apps before I removed or restricted them.
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I can't flash it because I'm not unlocking my BL. Also, which apps do you think are the most resource hungry? I already disabled facebook and all social network related stuff, most services like sony select, etc. No difference at all.
My Xperia S and my Nexus 4 feel as smooth as each other using go launcher and obviously one has project butter and one doesn't
A simple solution would be to set a background process limit to 3 or less (developer options-resets on reboot so take care of that)
Also decrease the transition and animation from 1 to .5(dev options again)
If u are rooted(which am expecting u are)
Use romtoolbox or any utility capable of profiling ur cpu...set two profiles..screen off->governer-ondemand-low frequency(will save battery)
And one as screen on->governer-performance-max frequency(reduce ur lag)
If u have too many apps..use greenify or some app with same functionality
These basic settings have kept my ion lagfree all the while
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for what it's worth, i just came to the xperia S from the original galaxy S. i was running JB on that, which has nowhere near the specs of the xperia S, and JB was smooth as silk there, so it does seem to make a noticeable difference. moreso on 4.2 than 4.1, however.
unfortunately i've been hit with the bootloader unlock = no , so the wait for jb again begins..
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I can't flash it because I'm not unlocking my BL. Also, which apps do you think are the most resource hungry? I already disabled facebook and all social network related stuff, most services like sony select, etc. No difference at all.
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That's why I posted the link to the Youtube video so you could get a glimpse that way .
I'd also disable Google+ and Google Talk if you're not using those. And some apps that you installed yourself from the Play Store can make your phone sluggish as well. I used Greenify to force my games and some apps to hibernate (Angry Birds, Dropbox, Google Drive etc), saved over 100mb in available memory. That has made my phone a lot less laggy. I usually don't encourage using app killers but Greenify is doing a good job with no errors for the past 3 days.
absolutely yes
jb leaked is the smoothest thing i have ever seen
Hi there,
I have just upgraded from a Wildfire S to a Nexus4. I would like to use the Wildfire S a secondary phone (for which right now I use a very old/crappy/non-android phone).
So far my experience with the Wildfire S hasn't been stellar (standard HTC rom): the lack of memory made it very hard to really enjoy it: every time an update popped up it was a struggle to get it to install properly.
So I would like to take the opportunity to clear up the phone and install a more ... "comfortable" rom.
I don't have huge requirements: some simple games for the kids to be entertained, some music, check the news ...
My absolute preference is to have a rom that uses very little memory in order to forget about all the headaches I had in the past ~2 years.
So, I started looking for the roms available. My oh my: talking about choice! It's great, of course, but choosing is not straightforward.
Looking here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068879) I see that there is such thing as a "Slim rom" which sound quite attractive from where I am sitting.
So the question is: SlimCM10 o "standard" CM10 (like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136011).
Roms like "ParanoidAndroi" don't seem too attractive to me, not on a screen as tiny as that of the wildfire S.
I would like someone's opinion on this. Perhaps I should look at totally different roms ...
Suggestions?
Thanks!
You have quite a few options.
If you want your kids to play games on, I wouldn't recommend even the SlimCM10 because all it does is removes certain unneeded alps in system. I'm on the normal CM10 and it does lag at times.
CM7 is a good alternative, since it is gingerbread, everything works.
If you want to do a little more work, you can check out the Customized stock ROMs by Crossfire77 and me. They're compatible with most tweaks including the famous v6 Supercharger. After you install this ROM you can install v6 Supercharger, Adrenaline Engine, Pimp my ROM tweaks and even an app called Seeder.
These tweaks and apps will work on all afore mentioned ROMs and will reduce lag by a lot.
Since just CM7 is a bit laggy, installing Seeder would do the trick and you can play games just fine.
You can also look at other sense based ROMs like Wildchild.
Good luck!
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Hi Lt Win,
thanks for your input: they make sense to me.
Perhaps I'll give first a shot to CM10.* (I see you're on Jelly King, which is CM 10.0, if I understood correctly): do you have memory issues? (I am worried that newer versions of Android are more demanding, in terms of memory, than older ones).
The reason being that I would prefer keeping ICS/JB type of interface on all my phones, which would make it easier to maintain.
The Nexus 4 is on 4.2, I plan to update the HTC Sensation to the latest CM once I familiarize myself with the whole procedure using the Wildfire S as a guinea pig.
Lag is also not a huge issue: as it is today is acceptable (of course, less is better) as I don't plan on using it intensely.
I don't plan to install particularly taxing games: my kids are young so memory game, coloring stuff ... that's plenty.
I'll research more on what are the issues with JB on the Wildfire S and then I'll make the final decision. I can always go back to CM7 if I don't like how it "feels". In which case, I'll go for your custom rom.
Best regards.
Edit: love the jetpack avatar by the way. I like that game!
yankeeDDL said:
Hi Lt Win,
thanks for your input: they make sense to me.
Perhaps I'll give first a shot to CM10.* (I see you're on Jelly King, which is CM 10.0, if I understood correctly): do you have memory issues? (I am worried that newer versions of Android are more demanding, in terms of memory, than older ones).
The reason being that I would prefer keeping ICS/JB type of interface on all my phones, which would make it easier to maintain.
The Nexus 4 is on 4.2, I plan to update the HTC Sensation to the latest CM once I familiarize myself with the whole procedure using the Wildfire S as a guinea pig.
Lag is also not a huge issue: as it is today is acceptable (of course, less is better) as I don't plan on using it intensely.
I don't plan to install particularly taxing games: my kids are young so memory game, coloring stuff ... that's plenty.
I'll research more on what are the issues with JB on the Wildfire S and then I'll make the final decision. I can always go back to CM7 if I don't like how it "feels". In which case, I'll go for your custom rom.
Best regards.
Edit: love the jetpack avatar by the way. I like that game!
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Memory issues, well not so much. I get ~100mb free space on install, and a few apps would probably fill it up. I recommend partitioning your SD Card, flashing a script called INT2EXT so whatever size your partition is, your internal memory will be that much. Battery life is a bit of a problem, I must say. There's more on Mobile Data than WiFi, so you would want to use WiFi more.
Again, seeder, adrenaline engine and v6 Supercharger can nearly kill the lag. Of course, games will be a bit laggy. Heavy games, that is.
The issues on JB are:
*Panorama is weird.
*Camcorder has very low frame rate.
*No USB Tethering. (Using phone as a modem)
ICS issues:
*No camcorder - Wrong colour output.
* Panorama is weird / doesn't work. (I don't remember that well)
*No USB tethering.
CM7 issues:
*Slightly worse camera than stock.
*No USB Tethering.
This should help out on choosing.
P.S. I love Jetpack Joyride, its too much fun!
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Man, you're a well of info. Thanks! (yes, I clicked the button too)
I plan on using almost exclusively WiFi. In fact, I may get rid of the data altogether (it's the secondary phone after all).
I won't need to use the camera much: mostly still photos for "work" related stuff, so I don't plan to use panorama or camcorder.
Also, no USB tethering.
Which clears me for both ICS and JB.
What I really need the phone for is:
- sync contact (this is actually quite crucial, even though it seems like a trivial feature)
- occasional mail check
- still photos in well lit environments
- listen to podcasts
- occasional gaming
- "portable" storage device
If I can ask one last question about the battery consumption: are you saying that it is especially bad on ICS/JB roms? As in, noticeably worse than with stock gingerbread?
If so, is this also a problem with custom gingerbread roms?
I get a fairly decent battery life with the stock rom, so this was not one of my primary concerns.
Thanks again.
yankeeDDL said:
Man, you're a well of info. Thanks! (yes, I clicked the button too)
I plan on using almost exclusively WiFi. In fact, I may get rid of the data altogether (it's the secondary phone after all).
I won't need to use the camera much: mostly still photos for "work" related stuff, so I don't plan to use panorama or camcorder.
Also, no USB tethering.
Which clears me for both ICS and JB.
What I really need the phone for is:
- sync contact (this is actually quite crucial, even though it seems like a trivial feature)
- occasional mail check
- still photos in well lit environments
- listen to podcasts
- occasional gaming
- "portable" storage device
If I can ask one last question about the battery consumption: are you saying that it is especially bad on ICS/JB roms? As in, noticeably worse than with stock gingerbread?
If so, is this also a problem with custom gingerbread roms?
I get a fairly decent battery life with the stock rom, so this was not one of my primary concerns.
Thanks again.
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The battery life is a problem with data on, so if you're using wifi you're good. However, battery life on standby is much better than stock but if you use data with screen on a lot, you'll get quite a good amount of battery drain.
Other than that, it's just fine. And I would recommend the following custom ROMs:
Gingerbread - Wildchild (based on stock) , CM7.2
ICS - CM9 Alpha 9.
JB - Jelly King, Speed Droid. Although I love jelly king. Ext partition is recommended on ICS and JB. Use INT2EXT.
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I just installed Jelly King 2.0 .... So far it looks quite good. Time will tell.
Thanks again for your help and suggestions.