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[Q] Space usage on internal phone memory

Hi, So I got a new HTC One x yesterday (32 GB.
When I go to the storage menu, I can see that 4.98 GB out of 6.76 GB of the total App storage has been used.
For the used space it says:
Apps 289 MB
Other 4.70 GB
Available 1.78 GB
My question is, what is under the space for Other (4.70 GB!). It seems a lot and I can not find a way to check whats there.
The phone storage is fine with 1,25 GB used from 25,24 GB.
Thank you.

The ROM takes some space I think.

Wow, I did not realize that the ROM is that large - almost 5 GB. :crying: Thanks.
TToivanen said:
The ROM takes some space I think.
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haitnz said:
Wow, I did not realize that the ROM is that large - almost 5 GB. :crying: Thanks.
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Yeah that's shocking never noticed that till now, I though the rom would only be around 1gb.
Sent from venom injected one x

Ok, so I guess this 8 GB is not so much and soon I will have to start installing apps to the 32 GB phone memory.
I guess the full rOM data shoudl stay there, at least until I root the phone?

Even with a custom ROM installed it comes up with "misc" taking up 3.88gb, when the rom was only ~ 180mb. Strange!

Thats even more strange! Perhaps its just a hoax to hide the fact that there is actually less memory in the phone . Well that's a joke ... probably, hopefully ....
I am sure there must be folks around here, who can and would be interested to get to the bottom of this and also find out if it is possible and reasonable to somehow free more space from under the "mysteriously" occupied "misc" line.
I tried to access the data directories in the phone own memory using simple browsing tools (ES File explorer) but with the factory ROM and without root, I could not make much sense of this.

Is there anybody, who has further input to this? Thanks in advance.

Same problem
I have the same issue. Just did a full wipe then installed latest ViperX rom and get the same result: 4.73GB of 'Other' storage, and cant work out what its used for
Is this normal?

Finally find this section...
Recently got an HOX (very cheap,) so decided to gave the HTC another chance. Had before issues with One S and few other devices.
Back to topic. Installed all my favorite apps and then, browsing phone came to Storage and saw this "Other" with 4.69GB taken out from Total.
First I thought some of my stuff, but realised that phone is brand new and nothing else installed except apps.
Also when turned it on , it was on 4.0.3 and within 24 hours got several updates (vary btwn 8MB to 369MB) until it stopped on 4.1.1 (JB-WOW).
I haven't look at Other when first booted up, so can't say it was same size or not.
Now I see you guys have same "issue" so I am ok for now...
But if this space is for OS, I hope the Android 5.x will fit in to reserved 6.61GB ?
Oh, and one more thing; the Storage is 26.58GB (phone is clean yet as nothing installed).

Every form I have read on this issue, people have said they have at most 7gb used up by "other" mine on my HTC one is 23.3GB but I can't where that is I have the VIPERONE rom. Any help is welcome

Dafer12 said:
Every form I have read on this issue, people have said they have at most 7gb used up by "other" mine on my HTC one is 23.3GB but I can't where that is I have the VIPERONE rom. Any help is welcome
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Wrong phone...wrong forum...old thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2115

[Q] Problems After Factory Reset (system mem)

Hey guys,
I have searched for hours and can't find anything on this topic. I was having problems with a rooted version of stock 4.2.1 on my Sprint GNex, so I decided to do a factory reset and flash the new Black Bean ROM. Everything is good, except I should have about 16gb free, and I now only have 8gb free. I am not sure how to diagnose this.
I had done a nandroid backup prior to the wipe, but it seems to have been deleted from the partition. I can not figure for the life of me where to delete these files that would be taking up 8 extra GB. I had copied over all of my pictures, but the total size of that was `4gb.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me?

ad0nis818 said:
Hey guys,
I have searched for hours and can't find anything on this topic. I was having problems with a rooted version of stock 4.2.1 on my Sprint GNex, so I decided to do a factory reset and flash the new Black Bean ROM. Everything is good, except I should have about 16gb free, and I now only have 8gb free. I am not sure how to diagnose this.
I had done a nandroid backup prior to the wipe, but it seems to have been deleted from the partition. I can not figure for the life of me where to delete these files that would be taking up 8 extra GB. I had copied over all of my pictures, but the total size of that was `4gb.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
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You won't ever have 16gb free, more like 12gb
Sent from my Nexus

bk201doesntexist said:
You won't ever have 16gb free, more like 12gb
Sent from my Nexus
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I don't understand, if i had 16gb before the wipe, why wouldn't I still?

ad0nis818 said:
I don't understand, if i had 16gb before the wipe, why wouldn't I still?
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You won't ever have 16gb FREE. Settings > Storage.
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bk201doesntexist said:
You won't ever have 16gb FREE. Settings > Storage.
Sent from my Nexus
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why not? It's a 32gb phone, It should have roughly 28gb free coming from the factory
My question is how do i remove the stuff that's taking up so much space, it seems that when I reloaded all my apps after the wipe, it is doubling up.
Before I wiped and flashed, i had 16-18 of 32 (really 28) GB free, now I have HALF of that

search for what is taking your memory.
relock and unlock bootloader (it will wipe everything)

ad0nis818 said:
why not? It's a 32gb phone, It should have roughly 28gb free coming from the factory
My question is how do i remove the stuff that's taking up so much space, it seems that when I reloaded all my apps after the wipe, it is doubling up.
Before I wiped and flashed, i had 16-18 of 32 (really 28) GB free, now I have HALF of that
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my bad, i thought it was a 16gb model.

Note 8 5100 internal storage size?

Has anybody notice that the internal storage is not 16G. I have only 10G available even after doing a complete wipe and format. Plus when installing a small ROM like PacROM there is still only 10 or maybe 9.75G, not the 16G as advertised.:crying:

Tarasque174 said:
Has anybody notice that the internal storage is not 16G. I have only 10G available even after doing a complete wipe and format. Plus when installing a small ROM like PacROM there is still only 10 or maybe 9.75G, not the 16G as advertised.:crying:
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In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD

Moscow Desire said:
In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD
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Any thoughts on how to get memory back?
I was on civs ROM but I am going to try cm for a while
I have less than 2 GB of memory that I have used
And I only have 1.59 GB available out of the 9.87 GB that I have all up??
Will trim in 4.3 help for this?
Cheers

jocko6872 said:
Any thoughts on how to get memory back?
I was on civs ROM but I am going to try cm for a while
I have less than 2 GB of memory that I have used
And I only have 1.59 GB available out of the 9.87 GB that I have all up??
Will trim in 4.3 help for this?
Cheers
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Hey Mate, looking at your display, I would say for starters CM is reporting your storage wrong. I mean look at the chart. 1.5gb for data, which is ok. But look at the grey area in comparison.(only 1.9 free???) I would flash a factory type (rooted or custom) and see if it reports differently. If it does, then CM isn't calculating it correctly.
To be honest, I don't mess with the new CM builds anymore. Way too strange in some aspects, at least for my 2 devices (tablets)
MD

Moscow Desire said:
Hey Mate, looking at your display, I would say for starters CM is reporting your storage wrong. I mean look at the chart. 1.5gb for data, which is ok. But look at the grey area in comparison.(only 1.9 free???) I would flash a factory type (rooted or custom) and see if it reports differently. If it does, then CM isn't calculating it correctly.
To be honest, I don't mess with the new CM builds anymore. Way too strange in some aspects, at least for my 2 devices (tablets)
MD
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Thanks for the reply
it was reporting the same in civz 3.6 which is why I tried CM
I thought trim in 4.3 might help (I don't know if this is the memory type that trim helps recover?)
When you say flash a stock type ROM
Do you think flashing it with Odin instead of CWM would be worth trying?
Cheers
EDIT - fixed what i did was restore the first backup i made the day i rooted
it was stock 4.1
when i looked in storage under settings there was a miscellaneous files of 5gb that was not showing with either 4.2.2 or cm 4.3
it was a cwm backup that was not being read by the file manager
i deleted all of the files then flashed cm and now i have 8.42 gb
thanks MD
cheers
Jocko

Moscow Desire said:
In answer, once a rom gets installed, a certain amount of space is allocated to cache, dalvak, etc. It's common to lose several GB of internal memory. Also remember, there are probably some folders on internal memory also taking space. So this can be normal depending on device. One thing you can try, is to do a wipe on all internal memory, then install the rom.
Also, questions belong in Q & A Forum (I moved it). General is for tips, tricks, general information.
Cheers
MD
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When I do a fresh install I do wipe everything, Dev,Internal SD. I do it twice just to be sure. This is pretty odd. When I did these steps with my Galaxy Tab Plus I would get a full internal HD space. This just makes me wonder if there was really 16Gb for internal storage.

jocko6872 said:
Thanks for the reply
it was reporting the same in civz 3.6 which is why I tried CM
I thought trim in 4.3 might help (I don't know if this is the memory type that trim helps recover?)
When you say flash a stock type ROM
Do you think flashing it with Odin instead of CWM would be worth trying?
Cheers
EDIT - fixed what i did was restore the first backup i made the day i rooted
it was stock 4.1
when i looked in storage under settings there was a miscellaneous files of 5gb that was not showing with either 4.2.2 or cm 4.3
it was a cwm backup that was not being read by the file manager
i deleted all of the files then flashed cm and now i have 8.42 gb
thanks MD
cheers
Jocko
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No problem. I'm not real familiar with Sammy devices, although I am about to get an SGS III in a week or so. Funny it couldn't read the backup files though. Must be a peculiar thing with your version of CWM or TWRP. Seems they all store backups in different named files.
Glad you got it fixed though.
As for my experience, every time I ran a recent CM build (a501 and a701), it created directories and multiple sub directories called "0", and replicated back-ups and such. Ate my internal memory to a point where I just did a complete format on my internal and went back to a stock based rom. My own cooked rom's
Cheers
MD

[Q] Lollipop and storage / SD card use?

One major problem I have with my Tab S 8.4 is the limited storage. I mainly install games, and they can't move their data to the SD card, nor can I use the SD card with programs like AGS, because of KitKat security limitations. I'm holding off upgrading to Lollipop because the upgrade screen warns me that I'm going to lose at least 950MB of storage (and I know from my Nexus 7 2012 that Lollipop does indeed add quite a bit to storage use).
What I'd like to know is how Lollipop handles the SD card. If I can move game data to it, that would be great, instantly worthy of an upgrade. If the download folder can be moved to the SD card on Lollipop, that would also be quite good. Even if I could only move AGS data to it (without it becoming read only) that would be interesting enough to consider the upgrade.
So I'd love it if someone could tell me from experience whether the SD card is more useful with Lollipop. It's annoying to have a 64GB card that's mostly empty while internal storage is constantly full.
(I hope that someone can help answer me this question. Haven't been able to find someone to answer me this elsewhere, and looks like others on the XDA forum asked this for other devices and didn't get an answer, so I'm not all that hopeful, but I'll be very grateful if I get a good answer. Thanks in advance!)

Root your device and your problem is easily solvable. Without even on lollipop there are still restrictions.
I am running lollipop but not stock, I'm running iron Rom. Which is practically stock without all the bloat, runs great and it shaved at least a gig off the stock Rom.

Thanks for the reply. What does using a custom ROM solve (from what I mentioned above: installing game data on SD card, download directory, SD card access by apps), and is that an expected part of any custom ROM I install (assuming I pick one listed on this site) or would I have to do anything extra or pick a specific ROM?

Like I said Iron Rom is lighter compared to stock so that's an extra internal storage, plus it comes prerooted so you can then give write access to the sd card and install Link2sd.

Thanks. People who already know all the things sometimes don't remember that others have no clue. So thanks a lot for mentioning Link2sd. If I understand correctly, all I need is to root the device and install Link2sd and then I can move apps to the SD card. No need to install a custom ROM for that, right?

ET3D said:
Thanks. People who already know all the things sometimes don't remember that others have no clue. So thanks a lot for mentioning Link2sd. If I understand correctly, all I need is to root the device and install Link2sd and then I can move apps to the SD card. No need to install a custom ROM for that, right?
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That's correct.

Thanks. I'll have to look into how rooting affects my tablet's warranty, but if there's no problem with that then I'd likely go that way.
I would still be interested in knowing whether Lollipop by itself improves anything over KitKat in terms of handling the SD card.

You will lose warranty with root, but if you are kitkat you can try the latest version of kingroot as it won't trip Knox.
Before using Link2sd you need to create an ext2 partition on the sd card.
Look on Google there are plenty of guides how to use link2sd.

I did not know that i will loose 950MB of my tiny 16GB storage when i upgrade to lollipop, is this true? , we not Samsung hauled over the coals in the press a few months ago because of the amount of free storage space left to the user after the system was installed, If i will loose 950mb, that is another reason not to upgrade to lollipop, things just seem to get worse, somebody give me a nudge i must be dreaming or is this a nightmare.
John.

As far as lollipop goes, if you go to Settings>Applications>SD CARD you can see a list of Apps that can be moved to the SD card. Not all apps will be able to be moved. As far as games go, I will have to test that out and get back to you. I have no games installed at the moment. any specific one in mind?

Tinderbox (UK) said:
I did not know that i will loose 950MB of my tiny 16GB storage when i upgrade to lollipop, is this true? , we not Samsung hauled over the coals in the press a few months ago because of the amount of free storage space left to the user after the system was installed, If i will loose 950mb, that is another reason not to upgrade to lollipop, things just seem to get worse, somebody give me a nudge i must be dreaming or is this a nightmare.
John.
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I upgraded to Lollipop last night and there was no warning that I would lose 950MB of storage. There was a warning that I needed at least a couple GB free in storage so that the system could proceed with the update. The U.S. lollipop OTA update itself is about 925.21MB. Other versions will be more or less around that number. Maybe he was mistaken the update size with losing that amount of storage space.

So it only needed`s a couple of gb of free flash space from my 16gb temporarily, while doing the update and then i will get it back, once the update is complete and the temp files are delete, is this what it looks like, I intend to do a reset before and after i upgrade to lollipop whenever we get it in the UK
I just hope lollipop is as stable as kitkat, as i bought my T800 10.5" just before Christmas, and it has never been rebooted or turn off, crashed or anything in 196 Days according to the battery history.
John.
LakersDroid said:
I upgraded to Lollipop last night and there was no warning that I would lose 950MB of storage. There was a warning that I needed at least a couple GB free in storage so that the system could proceed with the update. The U.S. lollipop OTA update itself is about 925.21MB. Other versions will be more or less around that number. Maybe he was mistaken the update size with losing that amount of storage space.
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Stock ROM Size

Hello,
i´ve on Stock ROM with root and my phone shows me a small amount of free space?
I´ve updated from carrier ROM (Vodafone) via TWRP to H815D Stock ROM, how big is the ROM size normally.
If there are some folders which i can delete?
Sorry for my bad english
Best regards from Germany

The System Partition is about 9.5GB in size. The ROM itself takes up about 4.5GB of it. You can effectively use about 22GB (user partition) of your internal storage.
Where exactly do you run out of storage? To check it go "Einstellungen\Allgemein\Speicherverwaltung". (Settings\General\Storage).
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The System Partition is about 9.5GB in size. The ROM itself takes up about 4.5GB of it. You can effectively use about 22GB (user partition) of your internal storage.
Where exactly do you run out of storage? To check it go "Einstellungen\Allgemein\Speicherverwaltung". (Settings\General\Storage).
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My ROM shows under Systemdata 9,30 GB, i think this is to big?

Blazerman said:
My ROM shows under Systemdata 9,30 GB, i think this is to big?
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Nah, that's okay. G4. I have H818N which is Indian version of G4 running MM 20c
G4's OS and the basic apps, with all configurations takes approx 9 to 9.5 gb of space. So it's cool. Nothing to worry about.
We always have the option to put on a SD Card so worry not!
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My ROM shows under Systemdata 9,30 GB, i think this is to big?
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My ROM shows under Systemdata 9,30 GB, i think this is to big?
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Nah, that's okay. G4. I have H818N which is Indian version of G4 running MM 20c
G4's OS and the basic apps, with all configurations takes approx 9 to 9.5 gb of space. So it's cool. Nothing to worry about.
We always have the option to put on a SD Card so worry not!

Dark$tar said:
Nah, that's okay. G4. I have H818N which is Indian version of G4 running MM 20c
G4's OS and the basic apps, with all configurations takes approx 9 to 9.5 gb of space. So it's cool. Nothing to worry about.
We always have the option to put on a SD Card so worry not!
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Nah, that's okay. G4. I have H818N which is Indian version of G4 running MM 20c
G4's OS and the basic apps, with all configurations takes approx 9 to 9.5 gb of space. So it's cool. Nothing to worry about.
We always have the option to put on a SD Card so worry not!
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Thanks for this informations, i´m only wondering in fact of ißm coming from Samsung S3 with Ressurection Remix and this one was much more little.

Blazerman said:
My ROM shows under Systemdata 9,30 GB, i think this is to big?
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That's the partition reserved for System. It shows 9.5GB but it's not entirely occupied. It's where system data, apps and user apps are stored. No need to worry, that's how it's supposed to be.

Blazerman said:
Thanks for this informations, i´m only wondering in fact of ißm coming from Samsung S3 with Ressurection Remix and this one was much more little.
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I wish there was RR Mod for G4, but unfortunately there isn't right now.
The main reason of increased size of G4 Rom is because of LG's customization on the basic ROM. I won't say it's point less as there are few things which are some cool additions that you can't find in the Google's original rom but still, the increased size is way too high than it should be. But then, LG's developers are no match for RR's, let's face it!
Personally, I am a fan of RR and have been using it for past 2 years on my Nexus 4.

Dark$tar said:
I wish there was RR Mod for G4, but unfortunately there isn't right now.
The main reason of increased size of G4 Rom is because of LG's customization on the basic ROM. I won't say it's point less as there are few things which are some cool additions that you can't find in the Google's original rom but still, the increased size is way too high than it should be. But then, LG's developers are no match for RR's, let's face it!
Personally, I am a fan of RR and have been using it for past 2 years on my Nexus 4.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-6-0-lg-g4-t3287313
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Blazerman said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-6-0-lg-g4-t3287313
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H818N (Dual Sim) Variant...

Dark$tar said:
H818N (Dual Sim) Variant...
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Ok, i don´t noticed that

Dark$tar said:
I wish there was RR Mod for G4, but unfortunately there isn't right now.
The main reason of increased size of G4 Rom is because of LG's customization on the basic ROM. I won't say it's point less as there are few things which are some cool additions that you can't find in the Google's original rom but still, the increased size is way too high than it should be. But then, LG's developers are no match for RR's, let's face it!
Personally, I am a fan of RR and have been using it for past 2 years on my Nexus 4.
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No that's not because of bloat or LG's customization to Android. It's just how the G4's flash storage is partitioned. You'll get the same partitioning when using CyanogenMod or any other, non-LG ROM. I'm using CyanogenMod and I have 22.7GB of user storage. Leaves exactly 9.3GB for the system partition. By your logic, I should have more user storage because of less bloatware on CyanogenMod. But that's not how it works.

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No that's not because of bloat or LG's customization to Android. It's just how the G4's flash storage is partitioned. You'll get the same partitioning when using CyanogenMod or any other, non-LG ROM. I'm using CyanogenMod and I have 22.7GB of user storage. Leaves exactly 9.3GB for the system partition. By your logic, I should have more user storage because of less bloatware on CyanogenMod. But that's not how it works.
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Well, I didn't try flashing any custom Rom on G4 as I use Nexus4 for such customization and with H818N variants, it seems that no Rom that exists is stable.
As for the memory issue, the partitioning is done by LGE people and they wouldn't do it without a reason. I suspect they are storing some sort of recovery image (but then it would be useful but it isn't) or just occupying that much space as their bloatware mod needs it. In any case, we can agree upon the fact that CM or any other mod doesn't take this much storage, so in that case, using a root explorer we should be able to see the partitions and figure out where exactly the space is going...
Can someone who has custom Rom here, try this?

Dark$tar said:
Well, I didn't try flashing any custom Rom on G4 as I use Nexus4 for such customization and with H818N variants, it seems that no Rom that exists is stable.
As for the memory issue, the partitioning is done by LGE people and they wouldn't do it without a reason. I suspect they are storing some sort of recovery image (but then it would be useful but it isn't) or just occupying that much space as their bloatware mod needs it. In any case, we can agree upon the fact that CM or any other mod doesn't take this much storage, so in that case, using a root explorer we should be able to see the partitions and figure out where exactly the space is going...
Can someone who has custom Rom here, try this?
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No. There is no hidden files or anything. Everything that keeps your phone running is in this partition! The partition has a size of 9.5GB of which 4.5 is occupied by your Kernel, Modem, Recovery, EFS, Cache, Android itself and whatnot which in many diagnosis apps (Storage Analyzer) is simply depicted as "System Image". The rest of it is for you to use. All the apps you install, the APK files of these apps, all are stored in this partition. You don't even need a root explorer to see this. Even if CM doesn't take up as much space as LG's ROM, CM still occupies 4,5GB of said 9,5GB partition.

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No. There is no hidden files or anything. Everything that keeps your phone running is in this partition! The partition has a size of 9.5GB of which 4.5 is occupied by your Kernel, Modem, Recovery, EFS, Cache, Android itself and whatnot which in many diagnosis apps (Storage Analyzer) is simply depicted as "System Image". The rest of it is for you to use. All the apps you install, the APK files of these apps, all are stored in this partition. You don't even need a root explorer to see this. Even if CM doesn't take up as much space as LG's ROM, CM still occupies 4,5GB of said 9,5GB partition.
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That may be, but I highly doubt that there is any App data being stored in that partition of 9.30 GB, as in my phone, the Apps are occupying 6.89 GB which is completely exclusive of that 9.30 partition. And I don't have that many apps to occupy 6.89 GB just with their base files so I am sure that their data files are included in this 6.89 GB else it wouldn't be this much.