I have Android 4.2.2 on my Kindle Fire and it's worked fine for a few months. Now, though, when it's off or sleeping, the green exterior (charge) light stays on. It's dimmer than when it's charging (and it seems to take a charge fine), but when charging, the light doesn't change to orange like it used to; it's just a bright green. My problem, of course, is the significant battery drain when it's either off or sleeping.
Sounds like a bad solder. In other words, it needs to be opened and serviced.
Ixthusdan said:
Sounds like a bad solder. In other words, it needs to be opened and serviced.
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Ok. Now, too, I notice it says "Charging" even though it's unplugged.
Try reinstalling rom
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This morning, my phone was dead. I tried plugging it in but found a blinking orange light. I tried turning it on but it wouldnt turn on. Does this mean there is a problem with my battery?
I've gone on several trips lately where I used my phone as a GPS. I just got a new dash mount for it. On those trips, I had noticed a blinking alternating orange and green light. I thought this meant it was charging and I had a notification, however, now that I do some searching it looks like it means overheating perhaps.
The orange blinking did turn solid after a while and I was able to boot my phone.
Could be a battery issue. If the phone is completely dead, it takes a few minutes on the charger before it can power on. Let it sit for like 5 - 10 minutes on the charger, and when the light goes solid it should be able to be turned on. You may want to invest in a new battery.
enricong said:
This morning, my phone was dead. I tried plugging it in but found a blinking orange light. I tried turning it on but it wouldnt turn on. Does this mean there is a problem with my battery?
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This is normal behavior for a completely drained battery. The phone will not turn on until it achieves partial charge (I'm not sure off-hand what %), and it will give you the flashing orange to let you know.
As you observed, once you charge it enough, it will turn on normally and everything is fine again.
As for the blinking you observed during navigation, that could have meant notifications while charging, as you suspected. It's also possible that you were overheating, but if so the phone would have stopped accepting charge and the battery icon would have changed to indicate such.
Thanks, it is working again now. I'll have to keep an eye on the battery life to see if it has really gotten worse.
In the car, I know there was one time where it got really hot. I held it next to the AC vent for a few minutes to cool it down. Also, my charger cable may be going bad. I noticed that eventhough I turn off the screen, sometimes it will randomly come back on. I figure maybe this is the cable getting disconnected and then reconnected.
This happened to me before and it turned out it was my charger not working properly. I even got a message multiple times saying that the charging accessory was not compatible but it was the the stock data cable. The problem turned out to be it didn't have enough voltage or something like that because it kept telling me to connect to a wall rather than through USB, while I was using the A/C adapter.
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I'm pretty sure that a blinking orange light during use is a "hot battery" notification. On one trip, I had navigation going, while streaming XM and had the car charger plugged in. When I noticed the blinking orange, the temp was at 119F and really hot to the touch. I immediately stopped navigation and streaming, and unplugged from the charger. Since I had the air on, I removed the phone case and battery door and let the AC blow on the phone which cooled it down and the blinking stopped.
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that could have meant notifications while charging, as you suspected.
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No. It doesn't do that. If you are charging, you get a solid red and no indication of notifications.
The blinking red/green means the battery is too hot and is not charging, as other people have confirmed.
The notification LED (Red when charging, red blinking on notification, blue when fully charging) is always ON in RED. Regardless if the phone is on or off. It will obviously turn off if I pull the battery, however as soon as a put the battery back in, it turns on and stays on. Doesnt effect anything on the phone that I can notice, but its just always on.
Any ideas?
Possible water damage. Are you using a rom other than Stock? When did this problem start? Try and think back to when the problem started.you may have an App causing you Led to stay lit.
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I bought it used. So water damage is a possibility, although the stickers that turn pink when they get wet are still white and the phone is like brand new, not a scratch on it.
Its running the Sony XPLOD rom from the ROM section here. It was doing it back when it was stock though. I assumed it was a possible rom issue, so I rooted/CWM'd/installed a diff rom.
Same deal tho, RED light is still on. Turns purple when fully charged tho! (Blue comes on while red is already on)
I know you said it was "stock" when purchased but did you do a full wipe prior to or after flashing your current ROM? Worth a shot if not.
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Sounds like it could be water damage to me. You can buy new stickers, so those don't mean anything. I think there are also stickers inside the unit.
Sounds like the red light is stuck in an ON position. If this happens with all roms, its a hardware issue.
Does it come on as soon as you power on the device? If not, than I would think software.
I'd use one click Odin return to compete stock ek02 flash, run it for awhile and see if the problem happens again.
I say hardware problem same thing happens to mine aswell. I cant code but if we can get someone to develop a script or something that can disable the light that would be great because im sure it causes battery drain
I am on my 3rd Fire in less then 60 days, the first two died from the same thing. Powered off but when I went to power it on the next morning the light would briefly turn green then turn off. The screen would not come on, and when I plugged the charger in the light would turn green then change to a bright orange then immediately dim to a pale orange. Like I said the first two did the same thing, they were both flashed with the latest gedeROM and OC to 1200Mhz, I have shied away from flashing the third one until I can find a common denominator , either that or my luck is just that poor. I have googled this issue for the last few days and haven't found anybody with the same issue. Any help would be awesome thanks.
sarsius said:
I am on my 3rd Fire in less then 60 days, the first two died from the same thing. Powered off but when I went to power it on the next morning the light would briefly turn green then turn off. The screen would not come on, and when I plugged the charger in the light would turn green then change to a bright orange then immediately dim to a pale orange. Like I said the first two did the same thing, they were both flashed with the latest gedeROM and OC to 1200Mhz, I have shied away from flashing the third one until I can find a common denominator , either that or my luck is just that poor. I have googled this issue for the last few days and haven't found anybody with the same issue. Any help would be awesome thanks.
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Well it sounds like its not charged. When u plug it in, do you have enough time to hold the power down for the 20 seconds required to force it off. If you can do that then you could let it charge while its forced off. But it sounds to me it wont stay on long enough. This might require a factory cable, not sure though. This same thing happened to me, ad with me being stupid I made a charger that is more voltage than default charger and I fried my kindle. I suggest not to do what I did
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Well it sounds like its not charged. When u plug it in, do you have enough time to hold the power down for the 20 seconds required to force it off. If you can do that then you could let it charge while its forced off. But it sounds to me it wont stay on long enough. This might require a factory cable, not sure though. This same thing happened to me, ad with me being stupid I made a charger that is more voltage than default charger and I fried my kindle. I suggest not to do what I did
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Yes I attempted a reset but it wouldn't respond and I tried to let it charge, but after about an hour it got extremely hot and I didn't feel I could leave it plugged in safely. When I contacted amazon for support I did all this for the tech on the phone and when I plugged it in and told him about the light, he said something about the usb port had come off the board which I know is possible but to happen twice in 60 days with two different devices is just ridiculous. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong if anything both devices were fully charged when the errors occurred. I just don't want to have to get a fourth before the month is out, the only positive is the fast turn around from amazon.
My HOX just seems to have died overnight. It has been completely fine and stable at least a month on AOKP ICJ 1.3.0. Have not done any form of meddling with the rom/kernel/anything since then.
Yesterday the phone was working completely fine, but this morning, the phone screen won't turn on, it won't boot(at all), holding power button/power + vol down doesn't do anything.
The phone is now behaving very weirdly:
Charging does not turn on any LED lights, and it still would not boot during/after charging for hours.
However, it seems the LED will start flashing red if I leave it charging for a while(it's not overheating as far as my hands can tell).
The default action for charging normally is a always-on red LED.
Also, after a some plug-in time, it seems the the HTC sync manager will detect it and auto-run.
Phone remains unable to be turned on.
I kinda panicked here and unplugged the phone to see if the effect can be reproduced; it could not. Phone now remains undetectable.
After plugging it out, the red LED continues flashing for a few minutes, the phone can be noticeably felt to be getting hotter gradually.
But still nowhere near overheating levels.
Could anyone perhaps help me troubleshoot? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'll try to see if I can get into get it to be detectable again later after it cools down a bit; see if I can at least get into bootloader.
-Reproduced, but adb reboot bootloader seems to reset the cycle, bringing it back to undetectable.
leave it charging
Oh wow. It really works. Thanks tomascus!
Alright phone's useable again. What a panic attack.
Any idea why the first 2 hours of charging before I posted this didn't seem to do the trick? Is this just some internal checkpoint thing?
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Oh wow. It really works. Thanks tomascus!
Alright phone's useable again. What a panic attack.
Any idea why the first 2 hours of charging before I posted this didn't seem to do the trick? Is this just some internal checkpoint thing?
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It likes to take its time
The light blinks when the charge is really low....
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Hello all. I recently made this thread where I described the phone, the LG G3 d851 t-mobile variant. randomly rebooting and not turning on without pulling the battery. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/d851-randomly-shuts-off-wont-power-t3424458). I deduced it to the replacement battery (supposedly genuine) that I purchased from a seller on ebay. I put my old battery in and everything is fine again, and the seller shipped me another replacement battery (big mistake, i know).
I put in the replacement battery, and a day later the phone shuts down again in the same manner as stated in the previous thread. I pull out the battery and put it back in and.. nothing happens on screen. The LEDS just flash green and blue. I tried plugging it into a charger, just a red LED, no display. If I plug in the phone to a charger without the battery inserted, the backlight activates but nothing whatsoever appears on the screen. I cannot get into the recovery either.
If I let the phone sit for a while, and try to power it on, I see the LG boot screen appear for about 5 seconds. Then the image flickers and fades away to black, and the LED just flashes blue/green.
Am I screwed or is there any way to salvage this phone? I'm desperate for any assistance and I'm totally open to any component level repair you guys recommend (I'm pretty broke :/)
Thanks all!
Current behavior:
Attempt to turn phone on: Blank display, no backlight, blue/green LEDs
Plug phone in with battery in: Blank display, no backlight, red LED
Plug phone without battery in: Blank display, backlight active, red LED
Do any of the above after leaving phone off for a while with battery unplugged: display begins to display the expected image for 5 seconds, then the screen flickers and the image fades until the screen turns black.
I tried the old (working) battery, and no luck either.
[edit] Hopefully solved. please read my latest post for my idiotic but somehow functional solution
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Hello all. I recently made this thread where I described the phone randomly rebooting and not turning on without pulling the battery. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/d851-randomly-shuts-off-wont-power-t3424458). I deduced it to the replacement battery (supposedly genuine) that I purchased from a seller on ebay. I put my old battery in and everything is fine again, and the seller shipped me another replacement battery (big mistake, i know).
I put in the replacement battery, and a day later the phone shuts down again in the same manner as stated in the previous thread. I pull out the battery and put it back in and.. nothing happens on screen. The LEDS just flash green and blue. I tried plugging it into a charger, just a red LED, no display. If I plug in the phone to a charger without the battery inserted, the backlight activates but nothing whatsoever appears on the screen.
I tried the old (working) battery, and no luck either.
If I let the phone sit for a while, and try to power it on, I see the LG boot screen appear for about 5 seconds. Then the image flickers and fades away to black, and the LED just flashes blue/green.
Am I screwed or is there any way to salvage this phone? I'm desperate for any assistance and I'm totally open to any component level repair you guys recommend (I'm pretty broke :/)
Thanks all!
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It would help if you would say what variant you have (at&t, verizon, sprint). Can you boot into TWRP? If your able to get into bootloader kdz or tot back to stock.
netookska05 said:
It would help if you would say what variant you have (at&t, verizon, sprint). Can you boot into TWRP? If your able to get into bootloader kdz or tot back to stock.
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Sorry! I am using the d851 T-mobile model. I can't boot into recovery or anything. the LED just flashes some color but nothing appears on the screen.
Behavior:
Attempt to turn phone on: Blank display, no backlight, blue/green LEDs
Plug phone in with battery in: Blank display, no backlight, red LED
Plug phone without battery in: Blank display, backlight active, red LED
Do any of the above after leaving phone off for a while with battery unplugged: display begins to display the expected image for 5 seconds, then the screen flickers and the image fades until the screen turns black.
Will update the OP
Thank you for the reply.
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Sorry! I am using the d851 T-mobile model. I can't boot into recovery or anything. the LED just flashes some color but nothing appears on the screen.
Behavior:
Attempt to turn phone on: Blank display, no backlight, blue/green LEDs
Plug phone in with battery in: Blank display, no backlight, red LED
Plug phone without battery in: Blank display, backlight active, red LED
Do any of the above after leaving phone off for a while with battery unplugged: display begins to display the expected image for 5 seconds, then the screen flickers and the image fades until the screen turns black.
Will update the OP
Thank you for the reply.
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Possibly bricked plug it into your computer and see what it comes up as.
So strangely enough, I tried heating my phone using the most idiotic method possible by letting it heat in my blanket (I don't have immediate access to a heat gun). The screen began displaying some funky artifacts when attempting to boot with the LG logo but would otherwise revert to the behavior described in the OP (only LED working, no LCD display.).
I let the phone cool for a few hours and I'm actually able to get as far as the dialog box where it asks you whether or not you really want to format, in other words the factory data reset dialog box (when holding vol down + power to get into the recovery) with minimal to no hardware artififacts., and only when I confirm that I do does it crap out and revert to the previously described behavior. But it actually lets me use the vol keys to select an option, so I'm getting a lot further than before.
So this absolutely seems to be a hardware problem. Anywhere you guys suggest I examine before I take a heat gun to the motherboard? Any specific component I should look at?
Thank you guys so much
Take it to certified technician he will fix ur device these phones are dirt cheap nowadays so u will not be charged heavily no more than 50$ worthl
So,
after reading into this more and suspecting loose solder joints (see the various threads about screen flickering problem), I decided to pursue this route and continue trying to heat the logic board.
I'm completely broke and don't have access to a heat gun, and with no other working phone I decided to take some desperate measures. For those of you having a similar problem and reading this, PLEASE DON'T ATTEMPT WHAT I'M ABOUT TO DESCRIBE. THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA.
I turned on the phone to get the blue/green LEDs , plugged it into the wall, and wrapped the phone with blankets. I let the phone cook itself for 2 hours.
Yes, just like the infamous xbox 360 "towel trick".
When I went to remove the phone from my makeshift blanket oven, the phone was brutally hot and felt like a stovetop (was painful to touch for the first 30 seconds). The screen was filled with artifacts due to the intense heat.
I carefully removed the battery, let the heat dissipate slowly for a couple minutes, let the phone cool on an AC unit for a another few minutes and turned the phone on.
It worked. Phone boots and haven't had a single problem for over a day.
I guess the problem was cold solder joints after all, and the intense heat was enough to reflow the solder and form a stable enough connection to allow the display to function again.
Even ran a stress test program for an hour with no issues.
Hoping this fix lasts (knock on wood), will report back if I have any issues.
Again, anyone having a similar problem, please don't emulate me. I shouldn't even have to say why this is a bad idea. Get a heat gun, remove the motherboard and heat it that way.
I'm sure applying the proper repair procedure described in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/screen-flickering-fix-successful-t3397411 would have fixed my problem as well.
So, why did this problem happen in the first place? I'm guessing it has to do with the overheating issues this model of phone has (at least my particular unit). I've been playing a lot of pokemon go, so the phone is running a lot hotter than it used to. The constant high temps (reading upwards of 75c frequently from my cpu) were enough to weaken the solder joints. I also recall dropping the phone a couple times while playing the game, and I guess this was enough to knock the joints out of wack.
I'm currently capping the CPU at 1500mhz and the GPU at 300mhz and the phone is running a lot cooler now. I'm probably going to set the resolution to 1080p, cap the framerate and possibly undervolt, though this might not be necessary.
Thanks for reading and hope this helps someone in the future.