Hi I've downgraded HBOOT to s-off (also giving new HBOOT), flashed new HBOOT compatible with all roms and flashed roms o plenty on my desire s (saga) but my desire (bravo) has been a little more complicated to say the least!
The roms for the desire 1 all go on about having xxx Mb HBOOT and all the various partition sizes needed, nether of these seem to apply on the desire s and dispute having read guides over and over, I cant seem to get the partitions right (1.5mb main mem left after clean rom flash) im wondering if its to do with the hboot instead.
Before AND after partitioning the device, the gingerbread rom iused to get from hboot 1.03 to one compatible with revolutionary works fine, I am currently on the HBOOT version revolutionary planted on the phone ( HBOOT-6.93.1002, RADIO-5.17.05.23 )
The custom rom I tried booted a couple of times but as I said, with only 1.5mb of mem left and lagged like a Pentium 4 pc trying to play battlefield 4 lol.
That rom has not booted since but restoring via recovery to the gingerbread rom, all works fine.
The custom rom I installed was omni-4.4.2-20140518-bravo-homemade, i want to try others but this was just a starting ground.
Please can someone point me in the right direction, as i said, I've followed guides for partitioning the SD card and I've gone wrong somewhere and can't figure out what.
Thanks Steve.
steve_htc_wizard said:
Hi I've downgraded HBOOT to s-off (also giving new HBOOT), flashed new HBOOT compatible with all roms and flashed roms o plenty on my desire s (saga) but my desire (bravo) has been a little more complicated to say the least!
The roms for the desire 1 all go on about having xxx Mb HBOOT and all the various partition sizes needed, nether of these seem to apply on the desire s and dispute having read guides over and over, I cant seem to get the partitions right (1.5mb main mem left after clean rom flash) im wondering if its to do with the hboot instead.
Before AND after partitioning the device, the gingerbread rom iused to get from hboot 1.03 to one compatible with revolutionary works fine, I am currently on the HBOOT version revolutionary planted on the phone ( HBOOT-6.93.1002, RADIO-5.17.05.23 )
The custom rom I tried booted a couple of times but as I said, with only 1.5mb of mem left and lagged like a Pentium 4 pc trying to play battlefield 4 lol.
That rom has not booted since but restoring via recovery to the gingerbread rom, all works fine.
The custom rom I installed was omni-4.4.2-20140518-bravo-homemade, i want to try others but this was just a starting ground.
Please can someone point me in the right direction, as i said, I've followed guides for partitioning the SD card and I've gone wrong somewhere and can't figure out what.
Thanks Steve.
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How much size partition have u made?
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So the initial 'hboots' you have been seeing are merely version numbers relating to official ROMs
e.g.
0.93 is for a Froyo ROM
1.02 is for the Gingerbread ROM
1.03 is HTC dev unlocked ROM I believe
Your version number now doesn't really mean much, but the fact that you are S-OFF now means you can change your hboot. When custom ROMs refer to hboots in this sense, they are merely talking about your internal nand partition sizes.
So going back to before you gained s-off, you were on stock hboot, with the following sizes:
250MB /system
40MB /cache
147MB /data
You are still technically on stock hboot, so your sizes internal nand memory still looks like this. The /data partition is your internal memory, which as you can see is tiny.
S-OFF gained the ability to change your hboot if you so wish. You can find the different hboot partition tables at alpharev.nl. You can flash a different hboot with both smaller /system and /cache sizes, hence much larger /data (internal memory) using fastboot. More /data = more internal memory = more space for apps :good:
You need to flash a compatible custom ROM with a /system size just smaller than the corresponding hboot to optimise your space.
So for instance, cm7r2 hboot has a /system size of 145MB. You need to flash a ROM with say a 140MB extracted system size to fit (it will usually just say in the first post).
Some ROMs will still only fit into stock hboot, but you can still gain space by A2SD whereby apps are moved to the sd-ext partition. You may have to manually activate it, instructions are normally given in each ROM thread.
You also need a correctly partitioned sd card (using 4EXT recovery or gparted only) along with the custom ROM to optimise app space. Which guide did you use? And how big is your partition?
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How much size partition have u made?
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these are the stats quoted in the info page of 4EXT RECOVERY-
SYSTEM- mtd3 250mb- 14.2mb free
DATA- mtd5 147mb-100.9 free
CACHE- mtd4 40mb- 33.4mb free
SDCARD- fat32 6.4gb-5.6gb free
SD-ext- ext4 513mb-487.9 free
SWAP- swap 513mb - -
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So the initial 'hboots' you have been seeing are merely version numbers relating to official ROMs
e.g.
0.93 is for a Froyo ROM
1.02 is for the Gingerbread ROM
1.03 is HTC dev unlocked ROM I believe
Your version number now doesn't really mean much, but the fact that you are S-OFF now means you can change your hboot. When custom ROMs refer to hboots in this sense, they are merely talking about your internal nand partition sizes.
So going back to before you gained s-off, you were on stock hboot, with the following sizes:
250MB /system
40MB /cache
147MB /data
You are still technically on stock hboot, so your sizes internal nand memory still looks like this. The /data partition is your internal memory, which as you can see is tiny.
S-OFF gained the ability to change your hboot if you so wish. You can find the different hboot partition tables at alpharev.nl. You can flash a different hboot with both smaller /system and /cache sizes, hence much larger /data (internal memory) using fastboot. More /data = more internal memory = more space for apps :good:
You need to flash a compatible custom ROM with a /system size just smaller than the corresponding hboot to optimise your space.
So for instance, cm7r2 hboot has a /system size of 145MB. You need to flash a ROM with say a 140MB extracted system size to fit (it will usually just say in the first post).
Some ROMs will still only fit into stock hboot, but you can still gain space by A2SD whereby apps are moved to the sd-ext partition. You may have to manually activate it, instructions are normally given in each ROM thread.
You also need a correctly partitioned sd card (using 4EXT recovery or gparted only) along with the custom ROM to optimise app space. Which guide did you use? And how big is your partition?
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you posted this as I was leaving my last post so I did not see it till I posted my partition info, I can't remember off the top of my head what the guide was called but will try and find it and post the link, what you have written has explained a lot and it very very helpfull thankyou for your detailed post, I will get back to you when I have had a chance to read over it again and have a play, the misses is watching a film with me at the moment and I can't mess with the phone till its finished of im in trouble lol
steve_htc_wizard said:
these are the stats quoted in the info page of 4EXT RECOVERY-
SYSTEM- mtd3 250mb- 14.2mb free
DATA- mtd5 147mb-100.9 free
CACHE- mtd4 40mb- 33.4mb free
SDCARD- fat32 6.4gb-5.6gb free
SD-ext- ext4 513mb-487.9 free
SWAP- swap 513mb - -
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You should have made atleast 1gb partition because them apps will fill up quickly and there's no need for a swap partition.
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Which guide did you use? And how big is your partition?
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Ok,found the guide this is what I followed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
I think it must be the hboot that's the issue but can't look into it properly yet
Thanks again and I will report back
steve_htc_wizard said:
you posted this as I was leaving my last post so I did not see it till I posted my partition info, I can't remember off the top of my head what the guide was called but will try and find it and post the link, what you have written has explained a lot and it very very helpfull thankyou for your detailed post, I will get back to you when I have had a chance to read over it again and have a play, the misses is watching a film with me at the moment and I can't mess with the phone till its finished of im in trouble lol
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Lol no matter how addictive these forums can be...the misses always takes priority...always
As above, @lilsafbig is correct
lilsafbig said:
You should have made atleast 1gb partition because them apps will fill up quickly and there's no need for a swap partition.
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Did not see your post till after my last again, will def make it 1gb or bigger when I re partition it, misses is tired and has abandoned film, yay!
I will get playing around and reading everything you have all written again so im clear son things, I appreciate your help everyong and will post back when ive made some changes.
Steve.
re formatted the sd card how advised to, flashed rom and nothing, re wiped, installed the hboot sugeseted on the roms page but still nothing, just stuck on the htc splash.
Installed a ics rom and everything is working great, the other has issues with this phone lol
Which method did you use to partition, 4ext recovery or gparted?
Stock hboot or the Alpha Jelly hboot will work, as both have 250MB /system size. Are you using fastboot to flash them?
How are you performing the wipe before installation? 'wipe all partitions except sdcard' option within 4ext should be sufficient.
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Which method did you use to partition, 4ext recovery or gparted?
Stock hboot or the Alpha Jelly hboot will work, as both have 250MB /system size. Are you using fastboot to flash them?
How are you performing the wipe before installation? 'wipe all partitions except sdcard' option within 4ext should be sufficient.
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yes im using the PB99IMG method for flashing them, I partitioned using 4EXT.
I realised stock shouldent be a problem by the numbers explained to me but thought it couldent do any harm to flash a specific hboot reccomended by the rom cheff, it also slightly changed the install process for some reason if you were running a hboot other than it so I shought in the name of compatibility I would give it a try but nope lol, HTC slash screen again ha ha.
I will try another 4.4 rom to see what happen but it is a little strange as it did boot and run poorly before
All the help I have had on thhis topic has been great and has really helped me, I hope someone else who is confused see this and is helpers also
How are you performing the wipe before installation? 'wipe all partitions except sdcard' option within 4ext should be sufficient.
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You may have corrupted the ROM.zip download. Try again, and verify the md5 sum if it has one.
You may need to activate a2sd first then flash the gapps package straight after, check instructions
Like you said, if that still doesn't work, get any ROM booting as a first step (along with corresponding hboot beforehand if you want to optimise space).
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Hi all. I've just rooted and s-offed my desire stock 2.2. using the revolutionary method and now I'd like to flash my first custom rom. I need a gingerbread based rom that'll give me speed and space for apps. I was thinking of oxygen because it seems quite simple to flash but now not so sure. Do I need to partition my sd card (16gb class 4) and/or do I need to change hboot to oxygen hboot ? Not really sure/confident enough to do this and would like to avoid it if possible. Would you guys recommend another rom that is even easier to flash, like redux, gingervillain, etc. Would be very happy if there's one rom (that would give me speed/space) that I just plonk the file to my sd card and flash it without having to tweak anything else. Not being lazy, just not confident yet, It only took a year to get the courage to finally root the phone . All advice greatly appreciated.
To get more space, you will always need to do something. Either change the partition layour of the NAND memory in the phone with a Hboot, or Partition your SD card. Simply flashing a ROM and nothing else will not give you more space.
Great answer, thanks, think I'll just partition the sd card through cwm. If I feel brave I might try installing oxygen hboot. One question, I already backed up my sd card to my computer, after I partition the sd card and go and transfer files back from computer to phone will the sd card appear on computer exactly the same as before (before partition) like external device (can't remember the exact word/name) or will it show different partitions. I'm just thinking ahead of where I should place the files from the computer to sd card after partition. Hope I explained it clearly.
You have to ensure that the ROM you want to flash fits in the Oxygen Hboot. You can easily flash new Hboots though.
I was the same as you and unsure about changing the hboot. However I took the plunge and did it using fastboot commander. It was really simple and took about 30 seconds. Now I have 174mb of used space and 113mb still free.
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3484jacks said:
Now I have 174mb of used space and 113mb still free.
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Don't get me started
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Right...I'm confused again. I read that cm7 r2 hboot is compatible with oxygen, redux, cm7. Am i correct to think that I can flash this hboot by downloading the file from alpharev site PBIMGcm7_r2 and simply rename it to PB99IMG.zip. then put it in sd card, turn phone on (holding volume down) press on option fastboot, then will be automatically asked if I want to install update and presto, new cm7hboot, also can I do this before flashing any rom, I'm still on stock but rooted/s-offed revolutionary method.
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Right...I'm confused again. I read that cm7 r2 hboot is compatible with oxygen, redux, cm7.
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Correct. The reason is that Oxygen and Redux roms uses a smaller System partition space (100MB). CM7r2 hboot has a slightly bigger system partition (145MB) that is why Oxygen and Redux roms work because they fit. On Oxygen r2 hboot however, you wouldn't be able to flash CM7 rom simply because the System partition space required by the rom is larger.
If you are going to be flashing ROMs often, I would go with CM7r2 hboot since a lot of roms are compatible with this hboot.
Rooted my Desire long time ago using Unrevoked. Used MIUI for al long time, now want to switch to CM 7.1
Read all the treats, but still i'm not sure iff i have to have S-OFF for updating to the latest radio.
facts:
- S-ON
- stock radio
All tips welcome
Thnx in advance
Kaffer (near newbee)
Flash the downloaded radio.zip via recovery.
Thnx MatDrOiD, works like a charm.
Now i only have to find out wich way i can partition my 16Gig SD-card best..
Gparted Linux
kaffer said:
Thnx MatDrOiD, works like a charm.
Now i only have to find out wich way i can partition my 16Gig SD-card best..
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No problem. Do not forget to use the thanks-button.
Either with as already GParted or recovery. Recommended recoveries are 4EXT or RMD.
I am familiar with Gparted and Easeus in Windows, but I do not know which format I should hold for CM7.1
- 1 Gig ext 3 or 4?
- 500mb swap?
- The rest fat32
(this is what i had with succes for my previous MIUI rom)
OK.. i created with MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition 7.0 (freeware):
13.7 GB FAT32
1.1 GB Ext4
102 MB Linux Swap
Still only 106 MB internal memory left..
What am i doing wrong??
I'm using "update-cm-7.1.0-Desire-signed.zip" straight from the CM website.
...I almost start to think that A2SD is not supported...
Firstly, NEVER EVER partition your SD card MiniTool Partition Wizard!! Use GParted or your recovery.
Secondly, CM7 does not officially support A2SD. You have to flash darktremor's A2SD-script (can be found in CM7-thread here on XDA) in recovery use a2sdGUI from Android Market.
Thirdly, to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot.
Just flash it via recovery. no need of s-off.
MatDrOiD said:
Firstly, NEVER EVER partition your SD card MiniTool Partition Wizard!! Use GParted or your recovery.
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Yep, comfirm that! Minitool sucks, Gparted did the job correct
MatDrOiD said:
Secondly, CM7 does not officially support A2SD. You have to flash darktremor's A2SD-script (can be found in CM7-thread here on XDA) in recovery use a2sdGUI from Android Market.
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Pitty that CM7 doesn't support A2SD.. Worked really well on my MIU rom.
Annyway, Darktremmor's solution works fine (for now) Thanks for the tip MatDrOiD!
MatDrOiD said:
Thirdly, to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot.
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Not for now, me being a newbee.
Maybe later when i see the advantages.
Can you tell me what you mean by "to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot"
CM7 along with many of the AOSP ROMs is smaller than sense ROMs. Therefore if you are s -off you can flash a custom hboot Which will reduce the size of your system partition & increase the size of your data partition.
Although many ROMs support apps to ext partitions only a few will move data to the sd partition. By changing the hboot you can make use of the space created by a smaller ROM.
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kaffer said:
Yep, comfirm that! Minitool sucks, Gparted did the job correct
Pitty that CM7 doesn't support A2SD.. Worked really well on my MIU rom.
Annyway, Darktremmor's solution works fine (for now) Thanks for the tip MatDrOiD!
Not for now, me being a newbee.
Maybe later when i see the advantages.
Can you tell me what you mean by "to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot"
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CM7 only needs less than 145 MB on /system partition (I am talking about the desire's internal memory, which usually has this partiton layout: 250 MB /system, 40 MB /cache and 145 MB /data) and only 5 MB for /cache. So by using stock hboot with CM7 you would waste nearly 140 MB space for installing apps. Not very useful, isn't it. So with the CM7r2 Hboot you would get full use of Cyanogenmod.
But beware. You cannot flash the radio via recovery now, because the cache-partition is too small. So you have to do it via fastboot. It may sound scary, but if you are very careful and search better too much than too little and ask if you are completely unsure, nothing can happen. Futhermore, you will find much guides here on XDA which will help you.
i flash a sense 3.5 rom, and everything installs, then on reboot the phone just cycles the boot animation and thats it.
Did you full wipe?
What Hboot do you have??
Which ROM are you coming from???
Have you used the Search function????
yes i full wiped
not sure what Hboot
coming from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1561843
CronMod 1.0.4 for Bravo
Yes i have searched like a mofo
Are you s-off? Have ext4 partition?
To hboot---turn off your phone , hold volume down and power button, and up is info about your hboot
i am S-Off
no i dont have ext4 partition. im not sure what that is.
Hboot 6.93.1002
Ryno101 said:
i am S-Off
no i dont have ext4 partition. im not sure what that is.
Hboot 6.93.1002
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Almost all sense 3.5 roms need ext4 partition to boot
U need to divide your sd cards into two partitions
Fat32 and 1 or 1.5 gb ext4
U can use g-parted or ext4 recovery
There is a lot of tutorials on xda that shows u how to do it step by step , with video too
Search a little and ull find everithing u need
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i am S-Off
no i dont have ext4 partition. im not sure what that is.
Hboot 6.93.1002
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Ding! ding! ding!
Problem determined.
Sense 3.5 roms (although I've never bothered using one) would prolly require an EXT partition on the SD card. Check all those sense 3.5 threads and it will definitely tell you that you need a 4EXT or 3EXT partition on the SD card.
alright sweet thanks heaps.
would it be reasonable to have a 4gb card and split into 3gb and 1 gb?
Yes,choose ext4 partition 1gb or more, skip,skip.
More info here ;-) :
http://sourceforge.net/projects/runnymededesire/files/AROME-GUI/4ext_Partition Guide.pdf/download
Usually sense 3.5 (runnymede ect..) Take 1gb-1.5gb max. Check the post where u downloaded the rom and check install requirments
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Ryno101 said:
i am S-Off
no i dont have ext4 partition. im not sure what that is.
Hboot 6.93.1002
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It's good that you found this, however, most custom ROMs (in addition to partitioning your SD card as already mentioned) will also require the phone's internal memory to be partitioned and this is what we mean by "what Hboot?".
Hboots will come in different formats and offer different internal partition tables. It is important to use a Hboot that is compatible with your ROM of choice. You will see which Hboot you need in the first or second post of the ROM you've dowloaded. Once you know this, download the correct Hboot from here http://alpharev.nl/ then use a tool such as Android Flasher to flash this to your phone, before you install new ROM. Be sure to flash "Bravo Downgrader" first, then Hboot of choice.
Hello all!
1st post and 1st day registered, thought ive been monitoring desire activity in these forums since 2011. Thank you al for the help provided through these years.
THE BACKGROUND
I have been using HTC Desire for about a year with oxygen rom and was more than pleased with the results. after that i had to give away my phone to my wife, for some time, in witch i flashed stock rom (some women cannot appreciate the use of custom/rooted phone!?!? haha) .
Now the phone is back in my hands, and as much as i would like, oxygen is outdated (or better say non existent).
THE QUESTION
Is there a current rom JB+ (up to date) that meets the speed and stability standards set by Oxygen2.3.2 with Data2sd support(or data2everywhere) and preferably without sense UI ? i currently have a class4 4gb microsd partitioned with ~3.5gb Fat32 / 512mb ext4 partition.
Thank you again for your time
PS: i have tried some roms around, but ive found them a bit slower even in touch experience , than GB AOSP roms.
In short, doubt you'll find a JB ROM that matches the speed and stability of Oxygen or GB AOSP ROMs. Oxygen still is one of the most stable ROMs despite being abandoned, mine is still based on it. Just because it isn't updated doesn't necessarily make it bad .
The only way would be to keep trying a few JB ROMs yourself, see if they are good enough for your standards. (I don't think any of them have Sense UI).
Data2sd is a bit different, most ROMs now just use normal A2SD, moving apps and dalvik to the sd-ext, JB ROMs tend to need to be activated by terminal commands (read the OP of the threads / search), so you don't have to flash anything extra.
512MB ext4 partition is a bit small, you might run out of space on it depending on how many apps you want to install. Consider repartitioning it to ~1.5GB if you can afford the space, do this using 4EXT recovery or gparted only.
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In short, doubt you'll find a JB ROM that matches the speed and stability of Oxygen or GB AOSP ROMs. Oxygen still is one of the most stable ROMs despite being abandoned, mine is still based on it. Just because it isn't updated doesn't necessarily make it bad .
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i found a working copy of flashable Oxygen 2.3.2 but im having trouble enabling A2SD support on it. you see, all Oxygen specific guides are on "404 page not found" state, and i have no memory of what i did to install it 2 years ago.
i tried as i said a couple of other roms, and none matched the speed of GB Oxygen
Thank you for your time,
Dimitris
dvalilis said:
i found a working copy of flashable Oxygen 2.3.2 but im having trouble enabling A2SD support on it. you see, all Oxygen specific guides are on "404 page not found" state, and i have no memory of what i did to install it 2 years ago.
i tried as i said a couple of other roms, and none matched the speed of GB Oxygen
Thank you for your time,
Dimitris
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Try the one in my sig, it's no longer being developed, but based on Oxygen 2.3.2. It works best in terms of space if you are s-off with cm7r2 hboot.
You don't have to do anything with this one to activate A2SD, it's already built in. As long as the partition is properly created in gparted or 4EXT recovery, just keep apps on internal (don't 'move to SD') and apps and dalvik will be tricked to sd-ext. You won't see your actual internal memory read 'internal + sd-ext', but the A2SD is working.
UPDATE:after a few hours of testing, and flashing, I managed to find Working copies of oxygen 2.3.2 and compatible version of a2sd.
Today I will upload those files to my server for distribution, along with a «short guide» post in case anyone wants pure oxygen experience on his desire.
Regards
Dimitris
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hi dimitris,
would you mind sharing your files?
i also got my 'old' htc desire back (from kid) and i'd like to install a fresh rom.
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i will post links.as soon as I get back home tonight! Keep tight
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around ssarnie
So here we go,as promised
I have no responsibility for any data loss or phone damage. worked as is on my HTC Desire Bravo
Code:
i cannot post links untill i get 10 posts . so...
h**p://speedy.sh/cnrds/update-oxygen-2.3.2-Bravo-signed.zip
h**p://speedy.sh/XvBVT/a2sd-2.7-update3r1-signed.zip
iIF you have CWRecovery V3+ you have to flash an older version, in order to be able to flash the a2sd above. You downgrade using Android Flasher.
Steps that worked for me:
1 Create 2 partitions on SD, one FAT32 and one ext3 (using Gparted)
2 Put the above zips in Fat32 partition
3 Boot phone to recovery
4 Full wipe/Factory default and cache
5 install Oxygen rom using "install zip from SD card" option
6 Start oxygen rom, and let it boot for first time, also let it settle for few minutes.
7 Reboot to Recovery
8 Install a2sd script using "install zip from SD card " option
9 Reboot phone.
Done
When it boots enter google account and download a Terminal Emulator . To check if all is ok you shoud run
Code:
su
Code:
a2sd diskspace
and you should see the partition recognized as internal with the space used and left.
Job Done. i run this install for 2 days now with no problems at all
Hope i helped,
Dimitris.
Just a few points:
- Did you switch hboot before you flashed the ROM? This would get you even more space. If you're still on stock hboot you're wasting a lot of space on /system partition.
If it's the latest version of Oxygen it should fit onto OxygenR2 hboot with 100MB /system.
- Good you used gparted , ext4 over ext3 would have been slightly faster, not that much of a big deal though.
- Can I ask where you got the A2SD script from and how does it work? Does it move apps and dalvik automatically? Does the internal memory read 'internal + sd-ext', or is it hidden like a lot of A2SD scripts but working as normal?
Just asking, I know you've put a disclaimer at the top, but it's useful just in case for anybody in the future using this. They should be informed exactly what they're flashing and at least in basic terms how and what it does.
- Did you switch hboot before you flashed the ROM? This would get you even more space. If you're still on stock hboot you're wasting a lot of space on /system partition.
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i am using HBOOT -6.93.1002 and radio 5-11-05-27
- Good you used gparted , ext4 over ext3 would have been slightly faster, not that much of a big deal though.
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I am not sure that oxygen supports ext4 and thats why igot the safe path to ext3. Using Gparted was oneway for me , because i only have linux systems on my home/work
- Can I ask where you got the A2SD script from and how does it work? Does it move apps and dalvik automatically? Does the internal memory read 'internal + sd-ext', or is it hidden like a lot of A2SD scripts but working as normal?
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this particular A2SD is probably a previous version of darktremmors. i found it on my backups, and uts the one i used when oxygen forums were live. it does move apps automaticaly i am not sure about davik ,and dunno how to check it ,internal reads only internal memory, but works like a charm.. you can make sure it works, by installing tons of apps and checking "a2sd diskspace"
PS sorry for all that info missing, its my first post about roms, i will probably get better while upping my post count
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i am using HBOOT -6.93.1002 and radio 5-11-05-27
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In other words you're s-off, but still on stock hboot. This is wasteful like I said, your /system size is 250MB, but you're using less that ~95MB, wasting over 150MB
If you switch to OxygenR2 hboot, the system size is 100MB, you'll waste only 5MB, and the rest gets converted to extra internal memory...total 332MB instead of 147MB...i.e. more space for apps
Nandroid backup, download hboot from here, recommend to flash using fastboot, nandroid restore.
I am not sure that oxygen supports ext4 and thats why igot the safe path to ext3. Using Gparted was oneway for me , because i only have linux systems on my home/work
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ext4 is dependent on the A2SD script rather than the ROM. Most will say if they support it. I believe darktremor did support it when I used it on a different phone.
this particular A2SD is probably a previous version of darktremmors. i found it on my backups, and uts the one i used when oxygen forums were live. it does move apps automaticaly i am not sure about davik ,and dunno how to check it ,internal reads only internal memory, but works like a charm.. you can make sure it works, by installing tons of apps and checking "a2sd diskspace"
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You can manage it using this
You can keep dalvik on internal for now, sometimes better for speed if you don't have a high class sd card.
However, on stock hboot, you only have 147MB for app data and dalvik in this case. It may work now, but if you start to install more apps, on stock hboot you can easily still run out of space quite quickly. 332MB /data partition (internal memory) on OxygenR2 hboot allows for much more space for apps.
A better way to check your memory I always recommend is an app called DiskUsage, you'll be able to browse all your partitions. Install it now, you'll see all the free (wasted) space on your /system partition I mentioned earlier.
PS sorry for all that info missing, its my first post about roms, i will probably get better while upping my post count
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That's fine, at least you're trying to help rather than many others who just post unnecessarily just to post in dev threads (unnecessarily). You don't have to up your post count to learn, you get that from reading
I want to s-off and currenty have hboot 0.80 which means i need to flash a newer RUU, probably 3.14.405.1
the xda dev official htc desire ruu roms link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667) only goes up to 1.21.405.2 so thats no good
There are various links on the web pointing me to : http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152
but this no longer works, i had a look at the source code and the rar file is in there but the link is invalid.
i tried installing htc sync but my desire isnt recognized, even after switching off usb debugging in the phones options.
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
Anyoe have a link to the 3.14.405.1 RUU?
I reuploaded it here.
Chromium said:
I reuploaded it here.
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thank you, i'll give that a whirl
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my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
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Just to clarify, mount2sd does not technically need s-off.
To use any form of A2SD properly, you only need a correctly partitioned sd card, and a ROM which can run init.d scripts to move combinations of apps / dalvik and data to the sd-ext partition. So firstly make sure your sd is partitioned using gparted, or use 4EXT recovery once you are s-off. Do not use minitool or clockworkmod to partition. Then in most cases after use activate A2SD, you keep you apps on internal (don't 'move to SD') to trick them to the sd-ext.
The main reason for gaining s-off is so you can change hboot, which is how your actual nand intnernal memory is laid out. Have a look at the partition tables at alpharev.nl
- Currently you are on stock hboot, which has 250MB /system size, and only ~150MB /data (internal memory). The same as before you s-off or root.
- CM7 has a /system size of ~140MB, so you are wasting 110MB
- If you are s-off, you can switch to cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, which has a 145MB /system, wastes only 5MB
- As a result, your /data goes up from 150MB to 287MB
- It's generally a good idea to keep you app data (e.g. saved game data) on your /data partition (internal memory) for speed and stability. 287MB allows for more :good:
- This combined with properly working A2SD as above, you'll have a lot more space for apps
thanks for your help!
i managed to get the Official RUU and then s-off and root and tried a kitkat rom but it kept rebooting within 2 minutes of use .
To be fair it used to randomly reboot every so often when on Stock Rom years ago, i think i read it was a hardware fault but for some reason with CM7 its stable and never reboots.
So I'm back to CM7 and using that HBoot you recommended.
Im happy with the extra space now so dont think i need to bother partitioning the SD Card and using the build in transfer apps to sd i now have 100MB free and that's with a few apps installed. I really only use the phone as a replacement for an ipod touch and before all this i could only get about 4 or 5 apps loaded and was getting the out of memory alert.
Thanks again!