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Using the phone for only calls/sms/mms

So now that I have my G2, I want to give this phone to my brother. He's a basic phone type of guy... only wanting it to make calls and send sms/mms. No need for mobile web browsing or email checking etc. SO, with that in mind, how can I allow him to do that? I see I can disable data in the wireless settings, but won't that also disable MMS then? I also see I can add a Block Email service, but not sure if thats the same as blocming the Google Email and the EMail app from accessing data...

To be honest, I think the easiest way around all that it to delete the apk's not needed in the .zip/ROM before installing. I remove DSPmanager, Development, Browser, Email, YouTube, Quicksearch bar, Protips, ALL of the wallpaper APKs including liveWallaper, SoundRecorder... to 1). make the install rom smaller 2). remove things I never use or intend to use.
Then simply don't install the GAPPS unless he wants GPS or something. Hope this helps out.
EDIT: By not installing GAPPS you have removed the step for signing into any email account, thus negating the need to block any emails ;-).

Easiest thing to do would just be to gave web blocked by tmob on his line. That way he could use all the features when connected to wifi.
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Sikety said:
Easiest thing to do would just be to gave web blocked by tmob on his line. That way he could use all the features when connected to wifi.
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This seems like the best solution as he will still want to use things over wifi. My brother is a full time student living with my parents and not willing to pay the extra fee for data usage or data plans. I tried simply not linking to a google account, but it seems at random the phone still hits up the mobile data for whatever background stuff is happening, and am fearing that it is incurring data charges.
Thanks

Just thought of something. Years ago when I worked for Nokia, MMS and Internet used different APN settings... now it's been years since I meddled with this stuff so don't know if it has changed or not, but is there a way to mangle the APN settings for that just the Internet/Web settings are borked and MMS will still work? On my G2, I can go into the APN list, and I only see one entry, but no means of editing them... His phone is running CM 6.1.1 (I put a stable ROM on his since he is not good at all with flashing roms, let alone running experimental builds).

I mean you can also use "Firewall" for root users, which is on the market.
Restrict internet to browser if person is not gonna use browser and so on.
You could also uninstall system apps, or corrupt them.
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I'll have to look into Firewall.
Corrupting/uninstalling apps is not ideal because again, I'd like him to have full functionality when using Wifi, I just do not want his phone using 3g for anything other than MMS.

4g turns on even with wifi set to never sleep.

FIX: freeze/remove T-mobile My Account App.
How can I prevent 4g from turning on when I use wifi? As of now, I have to use the setting menu to disable data when on wifi, other wise I get some serious battery drain.
When working properly the 4g/H icon will disappear when wifi is turned on. Sometimes it will act like its working, but when I turn the screen off and wait a few mins, upon wake the 4g/h icon is back along with the wifi symbol.
Also this has happened to me on multiple roms so it's not rom specific.
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It is most likely an app accessing 4g. Do you have tmobile my account app installed? This is what was doing it on mine - if so either freeze or uninstall it.

I actually made a thread about this a few months ago. Do u have my account installed by tmobile? If u do uninstall it or freeze it guarantee ur problem goes away

Doh! thank you both....I do have my account unfrozen...usually I freeze it. Are there any other apps that will keep 4g on?
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G1ForFun said:
Doh! thank you both....I do have my account unfrozen...usually I freeze it. Are there any other apps that will keep 4g on?
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Hard to tell without knowing which apps you have installed.
A good app to monitor that is 3g watchdog pro. The free version is good but won't tell you which apps are using how much data. It is worth the money IMO...
Feel free to use the thanks button......

rpolito73 said:
Hard to tell without knowing which apps you have installed.
A good app to monitor that is 3g watchdog pro. The free version is good but won't tell you which apps are using how much data. It is worth the money IMO...
Feel free to use the thanks button......
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All I asked was if you knew of any other problem apps. My apps are irrelevant to a static list of apps that are known to open a 4g connection.
Also, I use the classic theme here on XDA which does not have a thanks button.
So those are few and far between from me as I have to go through the trouble of changing the theme and then changing it back.

yea dude im not sure what other apps would do that but i had the same troubles as u when i first got the phone did some of my own research and investigating and that is what i found.....tmobile my account is not ready for prime time or tmobile is trying to watch are data through an app which i seriously believe. anyways when i ditched that app everything was good wifi connects when it should and 4g never comes on when wifi is on. so everytime i flash a different rom i freeze that app and if i want to know what my data usage is i unfreeze it for a minute check it then refreeze
hope i helped
mike

[Q] Portable Wi-Fi Hotspot charges?

Hi guys...i just noticed that there is a native option for wifi tethering on the gnex. If i use this is verizon going to charge me ridiculous amounts? I know that the wifi tether app doesn't but will this?
Thanks!! (i know i'm sorta late on figuring this one out )

All carriers are going to charge you if you tether. The key is to do it only when absolutely necessary so you don't draw attention.
I should add I have no idea what app you're talking about, but if you're using a stock ROM, they're going to know immediately that you're tethering.

Psychemage said:
All carriers are going to charge you if you tether. The key is to do it only when absolutely necessary so you don't draw attention.
I should add I have no idea what app you're talking about, but if you're using a stock ROM, they're going to know immediately that you're tethering.
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its not stock...its cm9..its not an app. its just in the settings. (most carriers remove this...thats why i'm wondering since this is a google phone it would not be removed)

ezcats said:
its not stock...its cm9..its not an app. its just in the settings. (most carriers remove this...thats why i'm wondering since this is a google phone it would not be removed)
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No custom roms usually disable the feature (Verizon Provisioning Removed) where the information gets relayed back to the carrier and it looks like you're just using data on your phone like any other app. But don't go using 50gb+ a month... might seem a little suspicious.

anton2009 said:
No custom roms usually disable the feature (Verizon Provisioning Removed) where the information gets relayed back to the carrier and it looks like you're just using data on your phone like any other app. But don't go using 50gb+ a month... might seem a little suspicious.
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50GB?!!?!? how the heck do you do that...coolio...thats what i wanted to hear.
I usually only tether when i'm on vacation and rarely at that...i just dont want a $50 charge on the bill

If you want to be smart, play it safe and use the WiFi Tether app you spoke of. You wont get caught using WiFi Tether.

ezcats said:
50GB?!!?!? how the heck do you do that...coolio...thats what i wanted to hear.
I usually only tether when i'm on vacation and rarely at that...i just dont want a $50 charge on the bill
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Haha. Some people just get power-hungry and start downloading movies and music from PirateBay or use it as their one and only internet connection, and they pass 50gb in no time.

If you are not using a stock ROM Verizon will not know if you use native tethering. I have been using it for a while and it has been fine.
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[Q] FoxFi app

Is this app safe to use, thanks

tongphan said:
Is this app safe to use, thanks
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So :good:far so good my friend

tyshemi said:
So :good:far so good my friend
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my phone is not rooted, do i need to root my phone to use this app

tongphan said:
my phone is not rooted, do i need to root my phone to use this app
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The app is literally called, FoxFi (WiFi Tether w/o Root).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mb3hmaSJd

TheFiveDots said:
The app is literally called, FoxFi (WiFi Tether w/o Root).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mb3hmaSJd
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Lol this is very true
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I've been using Wifi Tether very occasionally, a few times a month maybe. A few days ago received message from ATT telling me that my unlimited plan is about to be changed if I don't call them.
So while I'm on phone with ATT pretending like I have no clue what they are talking about, the person I talked to gave me a list of about 10 apps that they can detect, one of them was FoxFi. Basically anything available at google play is no good...

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the person I talked to gave me a list of about 10 apps that they can detect, one of them was FoxFi. Basically anything available at google play is no good...
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That's certainly interesting information. I guess the question is, do they care only because you're on an unlimited plan, or will they give anyone trouble for even limited tethering?

Is it legal for them to do that? I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan. Pretty sure there is nothing in my contract about restricted apps....
Samsung s3

The app is not illegal to use. If you get caught they will force you onto a tethering g plan, but not before warning you first
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I'm curious, how would they detect which apps I have installed?
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Is there no privacy laws that protect me from warentless monitoring on my cell phone?
Samsung s3

jcejohnson said:
I'm curious, how would they detect which apps I have installed?
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I think it's more that they can detect patterns in tethering traffic that are not seen in standard mobile traffic, rather than knowing exactly which apps you have installed and are tethering with.
Keeping in mind I have no idea how this works (or if this approach would be legal), but it would be pretty simple to figure out based what content is frequently being accessed via your "mobile device". e.g. if your phone regularly contacts the Windows Update server, they may suspect you're tethering. Combined with some analysis of how you usually use data much more quickly and differently on a computer vs. a mobile, the patterns would become clear pretty quickly. I'm sure if you mapped out browsing traffic of 1 hour on a desktop vs. 1 hour on a mobile phone, they would look quite different for most people.

TheFiveDots said:
I think it's more that they can detect patterns in tethering traffic that are not seen in standard mobile traffic, rather than knowing exactly which apps you have installed and are tethering with.
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OK, that makes more sense. I left my tin-foil hat at the cleaners and was worried that AT&T were sending their brain-rays into my head to determine what I've installed (e.g. -- that they have a deal with Google to get access to get a report of installed apps). While that could be true, I expect it is highly unlikely.
TheFiveDots said:
Keeping in mind I have no idea how this works (or if this approach would be legal), but it would be pretty simple to figure out based what content is frequently being accessed via your "mobile device". e.g. if your phone regularly contacts the Windows Update server, they may suspect you're tethering. Combined with some analysis of how you usually use data much more quickly and differently on a computer vs. a mobile, the patterns would become clear pretty quickly. I'm sure if you mapped out browsing traffic of 1 hour on a desktop vs. 1 hour on a mobile phone, they would look quite different for most people.
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Indeed. But tethering my Android tablet for some bigger-screen browsing & such would't trip the sensors (or should I say "censors") with FoxFi's proxy mechanism. Like your Windows example, though, letting a friend tether their iDevice for a big app install might do so.

I beleive there are some proxies you can use to hide tethering but i have no idea as to how to find or implement them
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[VERIZON][VS986] Data Icon Appears While Wi-Fi Is On?

Subject says it all. Even when connected to Wi-Fi, my LTE/3G/1X icon still shows. I've literally never had a phone that does this. Is this normal?
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Mine does the same thing, but can't answer your question. The pessimist in me thinks it could be some shady trick Verizon does to seep more data out of us for overages.

Was going to post this same question, I remember on the galaxy s4 they had the caller id app causing the issue, doesn't seem to be the case this time. Also tasker can't control mobile data on lollipop anymore, so that's out of the question.

ocelot4ark said:
Mine does the same thing, but can't answer your question. The pessimist in me thinks it could be some shady trick Verizon does to seep more data out of us for overages.
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I've seen that bussiness model before. I have a HP printer at work that uses 4 cartriges that cost roughly $180 (each) HP has set it so even if you print strictly in b/w, it still applies slight C/M/Y to the mix till it depletes the other cartridges...
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It's persistent. Your wifi is on and working, if you want to you can turn off data and it will only show wifi
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IMO it is the "my <insert carrier name> app"

Same happens on my tmobile galaxy s6. I think is a 5.1 thing. Sucks balls.
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oldblue910 said:
Subject says it all. Even when connected to Wi-Fi, my LTE/3G/1X icon still shows. I've literally never had a phone that does this. Is this normal?
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I had the s6 edge before this for a couple days and this phone is similar from what I've noticed some apps require carrier data to provide authentication and some phones use both Wi-Fi and lte to download faster this phone does it at times it's just not really a feature to turn on and off yet like it is on the edge.
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I've got the H815 and can not confirm this. I never had a phone that did this, save you activated that option within an Xposed module. I did this on my Note 10.1 2014 LTE because I wanted to check the connectivity strength of my carrier even when I had WLAN enabled. But out of the box? No.

On the G2 pre-lollipop, we could change the icon set and hide data icon when on wifi.
After lollipop, it seems to stick regardless. Annoying I know.
The only downfall of the LG is the intense amount of status bar icons. I really only used xposed to hide most of those and have centerclock. Need root first though. Not sure if xposed is supprted without a custom recovery yet. They disabled activation through the app until testing was complete.

ambervals6 said:
Same happens on my tmobile galaxy s6. I think is a 5.1 thing. Sucks balls.
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Same to me, im on T Mobile galaxy S6, i just update mine to 5.1.1 and this anoyin bug start to show.
When im on Wifi the Data icon show up randomly:crying:

For what it's worth, I set up a tasker profile along with autoinput for when I connect to my saved wi-fi access points it would turn my mobile data off. Now it's not a smooth as tasker before lollipop, but it gets the job done.

That's a Verizon thing, same appears on my Moto X. Doesn't bother me, I'm always interested to see signal strength available even if I'm using data via WiFi.

This is how every Verizon phone has been for the past few years. This is intended and I honestly prefer it.