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What are people using for tethering since root isn't available yet?
Ive used the method described in the following thread. The best part about how it works is that it offers infrastructure mode, so I can tether my Galaxy Tab without any problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079340
Note: See post #6
I heard that doing the ##778 edit causes a loss of phone data while tethered to the PC. Meaning data on the phone is dead but the pc has data. Is this true? After the edit do you just use the stock 3g mobile hotspot app?
Yes it's true, I've tried it.
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Yes it's true, I've tried it.
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But do you lose data on the phone while tethering? Also do you use the stock vzw app?
The answer to both questions is yes. I actually hadn't noticed it before but on my Dinc2 the signal meter only shows 1X instead of 3G when I activate the hotspot option. I guess I don't find that all too terrible as the only time I'm tethered I'm either using my tablet or my laptop.
Once the change is made, the hotspot app functions like it would if you were subscribed to the service.
What why would you do the hack if you only get 1x when tethering, that would be crazy slow.
Oops, My mistake. It appears my earlier reply was a load of crap!
3G is still clearly visible with hotspot enabled. Just ran a speed test on my Galaxy Tab. Downloads ranged from 473-329kbps with uploads between 303-193kbps.
So just to clarify. You did the following edits.
-in edit mode you will open 'security' and 'm.ip default profile' in turn. each time you look for the only entry containing "dun", as in:
<your actual phone number>@dun.vzw3g.com
edit out the "dun." so it looks like
<your actual phone number>@vzw3g.com
And you then use the stock 3g mobile hotspot app. After you enable the hotspot can you browse using the phone also? Or does internet on the phone stop working.
I think you're right, clarification is certainly in order.
Yes I simply removed dun from both of those locations and now use the standard, VZW included, hotspot app.
The phone cannot access the internet while tethering is enabled. Certainly a sacrifice, but from what I've seen so are the apps available with a rooted device which from my understanding cannot create an infrastructure hotspot, only ad-hoc.
Yeah the phone data loss kinda is a downfall. But I have an infrastructure connection with wireless tether on incredible 1 just for your info. Some apps are lucky and give good connections. well loss of data is probably a sacrifice I will make. thanks
Seems to me that the only time this would really matter is if you're sharing your connection with friends while still using your phone for data. Is there something I'm missing? I can see it being a minor annoyance but something I'd personally never run into.
Just so you know...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/30/psa-using-an-unapproved-tether-app-on-your-verizon-device-expect-to-have-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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Just so you know...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/30/psa-using-an-unapproved-tether-app-on-your-verizon-device-expect-to-have-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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I'm just amazed it's taken the carriers as long as it has on this.
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I'm just amazed it's taken the carriers as long as it has on this.
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If the detection is at the app level (unauthorized), like the article suggests, the hack may still be under the radar for the time being since folks are probably using the authorized app pre-installed on their phone.
How do you guys suppose they are going to stop it and force you to use their 30$ "service"?
I only ask cause I was experiencing 4g probs on my "rented" RAZR which I have rooted.
I only rooted it so I could use tethering(sql hack) while we were working on my office's network outage.
When I experienced service "cycling" i called. I could not keep a data connection. I had cell service and could receive calls and texts, but data would just cycle thru 1, 3, 4g, then none. When I called the rep did some digging and quickly kicked me to a "Tier2" rep.
So I tell him my problem. he responds "well, could be your SIM(which is free to replace) or to try a Factory defaults reset." He then proceeds to tell me about free apps for backing up. Something that does not require root. I assume something like titanium backup which is a main reason for many to root their phones and big VZW knows this. This is #1. He then proceeds to tell me about amazons app store, which "offers 1 free app a day". Big gripe from companies is that we rooters are "stealing" paid apps(I have stolen 1 payed app, then proceeded to buy it when the black market went under). That is #2. Without me telling him too much about myself, he goes "so, you seem pretty tech savy with the droid". This is #3.
so with 1, 2, and 3 in mind. Have you seen things like this on other 4g devices. I know they can see it(root). I know they have a way to jack your phone if you are "stealing" the entitlements check, but are they using it? The GSM version has builtin wifi tethering. Do you think that these "BUGS" they found which gave us 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 would have something to do with them trying to make sure we can't "steal" our bandwidth we pay for?
Food for thought. Thoughts? questions? concerns?
Hopefully there isn't any restrictions because I occasionally tether my transformer for easier viewing.
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It says right in the press release that they are blocking tethering and charging $20/month for the service. Just like every other VZW phone.
martonikaj said:
It says right in the press release that they are blocking tethering and charging $20/month for the service. Just like every other VZW phone.
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Well yeah they're "officially" blocking it, but with root and whatnot, we should be able to tether freely, hopefully. I tether from my OG all the time, even though it's "blocked"
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solid009 said:
Well yeah they're "officially" blocking it, but with root and whatnot, we should be able to tether freely, hopefully. I tether from my OG all the time, even though it's "blocked"
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Yes you should be able to with root. Just like any other vzw phone.
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I know they are blocking wifi tethering but you should still be able to do wired via PDANet(or similiar). but yes, root will be required. on the Rezound they went as far as to add a system process labelled "tetherguard". fun times
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I know they are blocking wifi tethering but you should still be able to do wired via PDANet(or similiar). but yes, root will be required. on the Rezound they went as far as to add a system process labelled "tetherguard". fun times
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I have PDAnet installed on my Droid RAZR, and it works just fine. No redirecting of websites to VZW page to sign up for a tether plan. When I had my DX rooted with GB, I used Wireless Tether and I was directed to VZW's page for tethering plans. RAZR is not rooted either.
I heard about a program called EasyTether that supposedly will allow you to tether without having to root your phone? Has anyone tried it/think it will work?
Tethering works fine after root - no app required (edit: Its now checking subscriptions, but PDANet still works).
WiFi tethering does not work after root on ANY app* - further development will be needed.
*Pretty sure that blocktether thing has returned.
I've been searching relentlessly for a way to get Wireless Tether for Root Users to work on my brand new VZW Galaxy Nexus.
No dice. The Dev has been notified.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1257
If you install the latest BETA version and select the Samsung Galaxy S2 under device profiles, it ALMOST works, throughs in error in the log: "Activating WiFi interface.... FAILED"
Totally crushed about this. Not sure if it's happening due to a VZW side safeguard or if it's simply a progrmaming issue the dev can fix :\
keatre said:
Tethering works fine after root - no app required.
WiFi tethering does not work after root on ANY app* - further development will be needed.
*Pretty sure that blocktether thing has returned.
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Are you saying that you were able to get USB tethering working, after root with the native app? I am rooted, and when I tried to enable USB tethering, I got a pop up message that said "checking subscription plans". ????
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Are you saying that you were able to get USB tethering working, after root with the native app? I am rooted, and when I tried to enable USB tethering, I got a pop up message that said "checking subscription plans". ????
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Ya the stock tethering options still check subscription status.
PDANet does work, though, so that's what I'm using until a working wireless tether surfaces.
I'm planning on rooting specifically to use the built in hotspot.
Hopefully someone develops a workaround soon.
OSully said:
I'm planning on rooting specifically to use the built in hotspot.
Hopefully someone develops a workaround soon.
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I am rooted and can not use the built in hotspot, nor USB tethering.
ROM developers are working on a solution now.
Download SQLite Editor from the market. On YouTube, there are many videos that show how to change the wifi tether permissions using sqlite. You have to be rooted.
I'm not rooted, so I use PDAnet with no problems on my laptop. There is a one time $20 charge to be able to use https websites.
I also use my Bluetooth to tether my iPad and surf the Web that way.
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evltwn72 said:
Download SQLite Editor from the market. On YouTube, there are many videos that show how to change the wifi tether permissions using sqlite. You have to be rooted.
I'm not rooted, so I use PDAnet with no problems on my laptop. There is a one time $20 charge to be able to use https websites.
I also use my Bluetooth to tether my iPad and surf the Web that way.
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I found this video for the Bionic -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRwzq6Y2H8
I haven't rooted yet so I haven't experimented, but maybe someone can check it out and see if something similar will work with the GNex.
I don't get the "people root so they can steal apps" argument...you realize you don't have to root to download and install apps in Android, right? You get apps the same exact way rooted or non-rooted.
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I don't get the "people root so they can steal apps" argument...you realize you don't have to root to download and install apps in Android, right? You get apps the same exact way rooted or non-rooted.
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Where did you see someone say that on this thread?
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I found this video for the Bionic -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRwzq6Y2H8
I haven't rooted yet so I haven't experimented, but maybe someone can check it out and see if something similar will work with the GNex.
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I spent a while earlier today looking around in sqlite for something to edit to enable tethering but no dice. I did see some interesting stuff pertaining to throttling though, i.e. reset date and stuff like that
Has anyone tried to use Barnacle? Worked on the Chrage.
Is this app safe to use, thanks
tongphan said:
Is this app safe to use, thanks
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So :good:far so good my friend
tyshemi said:
So :good:far so good my friend
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my phone is not rooted, do i need to root my phone to use this app
tongphan said:
my phone is not rooted, do i need to root my phone to use this app
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The app is literally called, FoxFi (WiFi Tether w/o Root).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mb3hmaSJd
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The app is literally called, FoxFi (WiFi Tether w/o Root).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mb3hmaSJd
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Lol this is very true
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I've been using Wifi Tether very occasionally, a few times a month maybe. A few days ago received message from ATT telling me that my unlimited plan is about to be changed if I don't call them.
So while I'm on phone with ATT pretending like I have no clue what they are talking about, the person I talked to gave me a list of about 10 apps that they can detect, one of them was FoxFi. Basically anything available at google play is no good...
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the person I talked to gave me a list of about 10 apps that they can detect, one of them was FoxFi. Basically anything available at google play is no good...
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That's certainly interesting information. I guess the question is, do they care only because you're on an unlimited plan, or will they give anyone trouble for even limited tethering?
Is it legal for them to do that? I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan. Pretty sure there is nothing in my contract about restricted apps....
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The app is not illegal to use. If you get caught they will force you onto a tethering g plan, but not before warning you first
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I'm curious, how would they detect which apps I have installed?
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Is there no privacy laws that protect me from warentless monitoring on my cell phone?
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I'm curious, how would they detect which apps I have installed?
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I think it's more that they can detect patterns in tethering traffic that are not seen in standard mobile traffic, rather than knowing exactly which apps you have installed and are tethering with.
Keeping in mind I have no idea how this works (or if this approach would be legal), but it would be pretty simple to figure out based what content is frequently being accessed via your "mobile device". e.g. if your phone regularly contacts the Windows Update server, they may suspect you're tethering. Combined with some analysis of how you usually use data much more quickly and differently on a computer vs. a mobile, the patterns would become clear pretty quickly. I'm sure if you mapped out browsing traffic of 1 hour on a desktop vs. 1 hour on a mobile phone, they would look quite different for most people.
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I think it's more that they can detect patterns in tethering traffic that are not seen in standard mobile traffic, rather than knowing exactly which apps you have installed and are tethering with.
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OK, that makes more sense. I left my tin-foil hat at the cleaners and was worried that AT&T were sending their brain-rays into my head to determine what I've installed (e.g. -- that they have a deal with Google to get access to get a report of installed apps). While that could be true, I expect it is highly unlikely.
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Keeping in mind I have no idea how this works (or if this approach would be legal), but it would be pretty simple to figure out based what content is frequently being accessed via your "mobile device". e.g. if your phone regularly contacts the Windows Update server, they may suspect you're tethering. Combined with some analysis of how you usually use data much more quickly and differently on a computer vs. a mobile, the patterns would become clear pretty quickly. I'm sure if you mapped out browsing traffic of 1 hour on a desktop vs. 1 hour on a mobile phone, they would look quite different for most people.
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Indeed. But tethering my Android tablet for some bigger-screen browsing & such would't trip the sensors (or should I say "censors") with FoxFi's proxy mechanism. Like your Windows example, though, letting a friend tether their iDevice for a big app install might do so.
I beleive there are some proxies you can use to hide tethering but i have no idea as to how to find or implement them
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So I know AT&T, being the disgusting American capitalist corporation that they are, decided to completely disable wireless tethering and make you pay for it with a monthly fee on your bill. This is completely unacceptable if you ask me.
This is a thread to see what Wi-Fi tethering apps you guys are using, with and without root. Hopefully we can get a list going so people can try out some different ones if certain ones don't work for them.
I'm using a completely stock phone, unrooted. Just downloaded FoxFi from their website, and installed the apk on my phone. It's usually available on Google Play but AT&T decided to block it. However, I can confirm that if you download the APK and install it that Wi-Fi tethering works perfectly. I connected my work laptop to my phone just now and used dropbox for a bit, and I also tried a few different websites.
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Foxfi here. It works great on my unrooted phone.
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Easytether
When I used to tether with an Iphone att noticed it right away and sent me automated messages... Can they also detect tethering with Android??
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if you download an app, the only thing AT&T would be able to see is your data usage. if your data usage all of sudden goes up, that's usually related to tethering.
i use FoxFi on my unrooted Galaxy S3.
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if you download an app, the only thing AT&T would be able to see is your data usage. if your data usage all of sudden goes up, that's usually related to tethering.
i use FoxFi on my unrooted Galaxy S3.
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definitely not true.
they can tell by the number of 'hops' that data traffic goes through to the end client. that is how they found me. i was using CM9 (built-in enabled hotspot) for 3 months on my old phone and they finally sent me the "Did you know tethering requires a plan?" text, and sent me a letter telling me I had to stop before X date or they'd change my data plan. when I called in playing dumb they listed off a number of apps that i might have used 'accidentally', which was the list of all the tethering apps i've heard of, and asked if i used them.
IMHO, the only safe way to tether via wifi on an unrooted phone would be to set up ADB via wifi, then use Easytether over that wifi ADB connection. Anything that resembles straightforward "phone as transparent access point" is too easy for carriers to detect. You have to masquerade your traffic, and the more opaque you can make it (say, by further tunneling it over a PPTP or L2TP VPN), the better.
A rooted phone has a few additional possibilities, but they involve completely replacing the tethering app that's bundled with the phone with one that goes out of its way to masquerade your traffic and disguise its wifi-routed origins.
You can also change over to a mobileshare plan. It's saving me a few bucks per month, and tethering is allowed with no additional fee.
"Tethering and/or mobile hotspot use is permitted with Mobile Share plans with capable Designated Devices; provided, however, that such use is limited to a maximum of five (5) simultaneous users per Device." "If you use a tethering and/or mobile hotspot Device with more than five (5) simultaneous users, you agree that AT&T may suspend or terminate service to the account."
So it looks like they're watching for multiple receivers in the traffic and if they see more than 6 (the device itself and 5 attached clients), then it flags.
Good Call
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Elixir 2
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Good call on Elixir 2. Works really fast on an non-rooted Galaxy S III
Foxfi worked perfectly for me up until this latest OTA update and now it won't work at all. Was using Power Toggles to activate it, but this is no longer working. I've been searching for a working replacement for the last few days without any luck so if anyone has found an app that works after the update I would greatly appreciate you sharing the name. Thanks!!
I use wifi tether on a rooted S3. It works pretty well. It has similar options to that of a router.
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definitely not true.
they can tell by the number of 'hops' that data traffic goes through to the end client. that is how they found me. i was using CM9 (built-in enabled hotspot) for 3 months on my old phone and they finally sent me the "Did you know tethering requires a plan?" text, and sent me a letter telling me I had to stop before X date or they'd change my data plan. when I called in playing dumb they listed off a number of apps that i might have used 'accidentally', which was the list of all the tethering apps i've heard of, and asked if i used them.
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So what app were you using when you got caught? Rooted?
I use the built in CM10 tether.
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So what app were you using when you got caught? Rooted?
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He was using the built in tethering feature of CM9, which is also part of stock Android.
I use wifi tether. It was the only thing that let me connect to my vpn and tether at the same time.
Haven't used it very much tbh. Maybe 2 hours total in the past couple of weeks. But so far so good
I don't think att would have an idea I was tethering since all the data is going through my vpn and is encrypted.
If they somehow managed to find out, I'm prepared to take them to court and will ask for proof in discovery which would make everything public as far as how they caught me.
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Stock from settings in AOKP.
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Hello all,
I have been using this tethering method for a few weeks now, but all of sudden, my phone gets stuck on "Please wait while verifying..." message. It never errors, and I can cancel the process. I have tried to restore the offical tethering files, in hope to get the "Please call blah blah for more information message, but the same result happens too. My phone did recently download a system update, but I haven't allowed it to install. If anyone can shed some light on this I would greatly appreciate it.
I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan, so tethering isn't included. My last rom on my Galaxy Nexus had a tethering bypass check. Anyone know of a way to get around it or am I going to have to look for some sort of root-app?
Thanks for the help. It's been a heck of a night!
FoxFi works.
GrayTheWolf said:
FoxFi works.
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do you have to get the paid version? i tried that before and it only allows certain amount of data per day
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do you have to get the paid version? i tried that before and it only allows certain amount of data per day
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It does.
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It does.
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Every time I go to launch it I get a message telling me I need to call 611, am I missing something?
Kraizk said:
Every time I go to launch it I get a message telling me I need to call 611, am I missing something?
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That's weird....
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That's weird....
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Are you on a tiered plan or unlimited data?
Kraizk said:
Are you on a tiered plan or unlimited data?
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Still have a set 4 GB of data. I got to keep the same plan from my previous phone.
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Still have a set 4 GB of data. I got to keep the same plan from my previous phone.
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Tethering is typically included by default on capped plans, that is most likely why foxfi works for you
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Tethering is typically included by default on capped plans, that is most likely why foxfi works for you
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I can't use the built-in tethering, it will charge me if I use it. FoxFi should work regardless what plan you have.
I'm also on an unlimited plan and had issues with FoxFi too - not sure why... it worked for a while - then it would not let my phone use encryption - then I would get the verizon "call 611 message" (though FoxFi would still work, I'd just get a message and have to clear it out/cancel).
If you're rooted check out the OP here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417226 works like a charm
If you're not on root, you'll prob have to pay for the FoxFi app, but it's like 6.95 I think - way cheaper than any ISP I know of
FoxFi appears to work fine for me. Just had to accept a certificate and put a lock on my phone. Works with no errors. But I noticed some of you stated that it started going crazy after some use down the road.
I'm not sure why my stock app doesn't work when I'm on a shared data plan. Worked on my iPhone5 10 months ago with the same exact plan.
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I can't use the built-in tethering, it will charge me if I use it. FoxFi should work regardless what plan you have.
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I keep telling you that you need to check that ...
They can't charge you unless you use more than 4 gigs.
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I keep telling you that you need to check that ...
They can't charge you unless you use more than 4 gigs.
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Yeah, you'd think... but I tried stock app, get the call *611. Then, I tried FoxFi (non-paid to see if it would work) and when I go to enable the hotspot it pops up an error for *611 as well. It's saying I'm not subscribed to a hotspot plan essentially. I have a 10gb plan, which was one in the lawsuit a while back when they said you shouldn't distinguish how someone uses their 10gb. They were supposed to open the market up to 3rd party tethering apps (but weren't required to support the tethering through their stock) and I never got it working on my Droid Razr either. I now have an HTC One (kept the same plan, no changes to it) and wasn't able to get FoxFi working on it either.
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Yeah, you'd think... but I tried stock app, get the call *611. Then, I tried FoxFi (non-paid to see if it would work) and when I go to enable the hotspot it pops up an error for *611 as well. It's saying I'm not subscribed to a hotspot plan essentially. I have a 10gb plan, which was one in the lawsuit a while back when they said you shouldn't distinguish how someone uses their 10gb. They were supposed to open the market up to 3rd party tethering apps (but weren't required to support the tethering through their stock) and I never got it working on my Droid Razr either. I now have an HTC One (kept the same plan, no changes to it) and wasn't able to get FoxFi working on it either.
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Call them up and see how quick they fix that for ya.
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Call them up and see how quick they fix that for ya.
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Haha yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath.
That being said, I just got OpenGarden working between my phone and my Kindle FIre HD, so I can say that that works, which is more useful than anything else I've tried. A lot of tether is USB based, which isn't helpful on the tablet/Kindle front. I'm shocked/happy that I found a solution that quickly. I know when I tried in the past, even with other providers, that getting a tablet or other computer based device to work was a pain. That being said, they've got a pc/mac client, so I don't doubt that that will work too. I try to avoid hauling my laptop when I travel and for the most part I can unless I know I need to offload a ton of data from memory cards, which is usually the deciding factor. I don't know...maybe I could do usb/otg bridge of some sort to copy between phone / hdd or sd/cf/xd cards to hdd? Usually I've got enough SD or other memory cards for whatever I'm doing to not need to haul the laptop though.