newb, a few questions... - Ouya Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've only just heard about the Ouya, i'm a bit late, I know...
I'm after something to replace my pi for xbmc but I'd also like to have mame, SNES and Amiga games on there too using a real controller.
Would anyone recommend a ROM that allows access to the play store and that also allows use of the controllers or is the stock ROM good enough?

CM11.

mmace said:
I've only just heard about the Ouya, i'm a bit late, I know...
I'm after something to replace my pi for xbmc but I'd also like to have mame, SNES and Amiga games on there too using a real controller.
Would anyone recommend a ROM that allows access to the play store and that also allows use of the controllers or is the stock ROM good enough?
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If you also want the ouya discovery to get to the ouya store games then don't use CM11,from what i hear it doesn't include the store in any custom firmwre for ouya's,but all the questions can be answered as yes except adding playstore on a stock ouya,and all questions from what i can tell are answered yes for the CM11 firmware or other custom firmwares installed on your ouya.
Personally i'd forget custom rom's and play store unless absolutely necissary,it's hard to get any tuition if you are not savvy tutorials around are lacking full detail explination of every process in laymans terms,and besides you can sideload compatible playstore apps and xbmc without the need for modding so if it were me i'd do as i do here and just have everything barr the playstore and sideload apps that are listed to work with ouya.
This saves time and risk of bricking,unless your adept to a.a challenge where the tutorials only explain half the process in detail and have to scour the net for answers that nobody really responds to questions for. And b.your not bothered about possibly bricking the ouya getting one thing wrong will kill it,unless you are adept to unbricking over fastboot,provided you load fastboot drivers before doing it and allways i mean allways make mure adb is on before flashing anything,it is impossible to recover a well bricked ouya if you don't have both working (adb,fastboot driver installed) without bothyou can't then reflash another recovery if something removes it i use ouyatoolbox 1.0.0.0 to fix missing recovery with adb and fastboot drivers fully recognized in windows xp.

PHYSC-1 said:
If you also want the ouya discovery to get to the ouya store games then don't use CM11,from what i hear it doesn't include the store in any custom firmwre for ouya's,but all the questions can be answered as yes except adding playstore on a stock ouya,and all questions from what i can tell are answered yes for the CM11 firmware or other custom firmwares installed on your ouya.
Personally i'd forget custom rom's and play store unless absolutely necissary,it's hard to get any tuition if you are not savvy tutorials around are lacking full detail explination of every process in laymans terms,and besides you can sideload compatible playstore apps and xbmc without the need for modding so if it were me i'd do as i do here and just have everything barr the playstore and sideload apps that are listed to work with ouya.
This saves time and risk of bricking,unless your adept to a.a challenge where the tutorials only explain half the process in detail and have to scour the net for answers that nobody really responds to questions for. And b.your not bothered about possibly bricking the ouya getting one thing wrong will kill it,unless you are adept to unbricking over fastboot,provided you load fastboot drivers before doing it and allways i mean allways make mure adb is on before flashing anything,it is impossible to recover a well bricked ouya if you don't have both working (adb,fastboot driver installed) without bothyou can't then reflash another recovery if something removes it i use ouyatoolbox 1.0.0.0 to fix missing recovery with adb and fastboot drivers fully recognized in windows xp.
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Had got cm11 on it,loads of bugs,glitching screen flicker,force closing the browser in use,bad if logged into a site.I had [email protected] loads of trouble getting back onto ouya firmware glad i did though got an old xbox hdd caddy and usb transfer cable.So i have external hdd but cm11 i couldn'get a hdd as the primary install location,GL to SD app worked free on play store,could then add games to hdd in cm11.For all the bugs i can't be bothered so keeping stock firmware/rooted with emulators etc and media apps,at least it works. :good:
Had to revert back to the CM11 firmware just so i can use a vpn vpnoneclick app does not work as it's loading but not auto configuring,i now use the vpn unlimited (now free) app and it works well extremely fast for free user,nut the problem is on reboot or cold boot it enables the wifi when your on ethernet as if it thinks you have a phone and no ethernet so it's a pain you have to keep un-enabling wifi on every start of the app.
Really angry with the ouya from a vpn perspective as i paid for a year and had 9/10 months elite left on it,next thing vpn unlimited will be paid only,the worst thing with google play store of all things is the lack of paypal payment,without that i don't trust them with my credit card details at all.Otherwise i'd pay for vpn unlimited 1yr outright.

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kindle fire stable rom options?

A friend of mine has the original kindle fire which doesnt have built in vpn support out of the box (tun). He doesnt want to do the router trick and is interested in switching software. I have been toying about with various other android devices but not the kindle' so:
It seems cm doesnt support kindle?
If not what would be a good choice in a stable rom for a non tinkering guy?
Couldnt i just replace the kernel on the original software and get proper vpn support?
Any help much appreciated
Edit: forgot to ask - i read somewhere that switching software will result in no streaming from amazon. Is that correct? I am wondering how little i could get away with. My friend basically just wants to get vpn working and prrhaps also google plsy and netflix access etc he does not care for tweaking og newer rom features
delanvital said:
A friend of mine has the original kindle fire which doesnt have built in vpn support out of the box (tun). He doesnt want to do the router trick and is interested in switching software. I have been toying about with various other android devices but not the kindle' so:
It seems cm doesnt support kindle?
If not what would be a good choice in a stable rom for a non tinkering guy?
Couldnt i just replace the kernel on the original software and get proper vpn support?
Any help much appreciated
Edit: forgot to ask - i read somewhere that switching software will result in no streaming from amazon. Is that correct? I am wondering how little i could get away with. My friend basically just wants to get vpn working and prrhaps also google plsy and netflix access etc he does not care for tweaking og newer rom features
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Yup, you're right; streaming video from Amazon will be non-op if you flash another rom onto the Kindle. IMO, if your friend doesn't want to tweak and play with his Kindle all of the time, you're better off just rooting / dual booting. That way you can get the Google Play store on the Kindle and put whatever Android app you want on. The tutorial I used was from Liliputing, which gives you root, a recovery boot loader, and gives you the option to install the Google apps: http://liliputing.com/2012/05/how-to-root-a-kindle-fire-with-software-version-6-3-1.html
FYI the stock Kindle will allow you to install apps out of the Amazon store, so if you *really* don't want to fuss with it... Download the APK of the VPN solution you want to try, transfer it to your Kindle, and then install it. Easy peasy.
If you want to go all in on the latest / greatest Android O/S, I recommend twa_priv's CM10.1 rom; it's one of the most solid / feature full Jelly Bean 4.2 roms I've seen, and features Hashcode's very excellent kernal. It was one of the first that I tried and I always come back to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2051331

[Q] Beginner Need Help. Trying to install custom launchers, etc.

I have never rooted or otherwise hacked anything before and have no experience with android devices, though I am fairly tech savvy.
I used bin4ry to root my kindle fire 8.9, so now I'm trying to install bootloader and TWRP (though I'm still somewhat unclear as to what these things actually do) to fully access/customize my kindle device. I'd like to be able to install custom launchers, the various marketplaces, a web browser capable of streaming video, etc.
So anyway, I read through the post detailing how to install bootloader 2.0 and twrp (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128175) but I have no idea how to start. Are these things necessary for installing custom launchers/UIs? The instructions post a lot of code to enter, as well as a "fastboot" mode, which have me bewildered. I downloaded the sdk tools that were linked, but I have no idea what to do next. I've spent hours trying to read and glean the information I need to proceed but I only uncover layers of more technical jargon that I don't immediately understand.
Could someone put me on the right track? I'd like a bit of help so that I don't absent-mindedly brick the hell out of my device. I'd also like to know what kind of cool stuff I can do with a kindle 8.9.
I'm trying to:
-install bootloader 2.0 + twrp (though Im not sure what they do exactly)
-install custom launchers, UI's.
-get rid of the default amazon ads, framework.
-be able to watch streaming video online.
The bootloader 2.0 + twrp are needed if you plan To replace the Kindle OS with a different OS like the one from hashcode.
You can install the Play Store in a rooted kindle vor activate sideloading and install the apks of the launchers directly.
Sideloading can be activated under settings. Its something like allow untrusted sources.
The adds can be disabled with kfhd xsettings , its an APP (Google it)
Many video streaming sites use flash. Google for "archived flash player apk".

[Q] Illegal access detected

Hi,
I'm a long time Paranoid Android user and I'm really happy with it.
But i have one problem. I want to play 'school idol festival' (can't post links) but it doesn't work with root access. Every time i want to start the game it just says: 'Illegal access detected. Game cannot start'
I know this game is not for devices with root access (it says so in the description) but is there a way to solve this? I already tried to turn off Superuser in the settings but it didn't work. So i hope you guys can help me.
Thanks.
DeadPhoeni said:
Hi,
I'm a long time Paranoid Android user and I'm really happy with it.
But i have one problem. I want to play 'school idol festival' (can't post links) but it doesn't work with root access. Every time i want to start the game it just says: 'Illegal access detected. Game cannot start'
I know this game is not for devices with root access (it says so in the description) but is there a way to solve this? I already tried to turn off Superuser in the settings but it didn't work. So i hope you guys can help me.
Thanks.
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I guys just turning of the superuser app doesn't do much since root is still in tact, you've to unroot your device completly.
Also by searching on google for a bit there's no bypass (at least i found nothing).
Another thing is i think that the problem lies with the game and super su, so asking here is not quite right in my opinion.
DeadPhoeni said:
Hi,
I'm a long time Paranoid Android user and I'm really happy with it.
But i have one problem.......Thanks.
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Try RootCloak from the Xposed Module repository. It hides root, so I suppose it's what you need. I don't understand why you are posting this here, though...
@DeadPhoeni many Japanese games' developers don't allow rooted devices to play those apps for security purposes (avoiding hacks and such) like Puzzles and Dragons. It's not ParanoidAndroid's fault, it's just the developers prohibited rooted devices

[Q] Kindle hd 8.9 stuck in slow mode after failed re root

My kindle hd 8.9 was re rooted using bin4ry v31 after the last ota update 8.4.8. It worked fine. Now there was another ota update to 8.4.9 on 6/14/14. I tried using the same method as before. ADB is enabled in my kindle, I am seeing Android Composite ADB interface. when I plug the kindle in. I got through part of the re root, where it rebooted, and now it is extremely slow, has a black screen with white cracked lines to slide in open, and although some things work they are very very slow. Please can someone either help me re root or unroot it so that the kindle runs normally. I don't know what mode that slow one is, but you can't do much of anything. I tried to roo a few times, and tried to put in the stock kindle update and re run it, but nothing is working to get it out of the slow mode. Right now my computer can see and put things onto the kindle, and when trying to root, it seems like it is trying to work, but since the kindle is slow, I don't know if it is getting stuck and not finishing.
Can you help me figure out what is wrong?
benee16 said:
My kindle hd 8.9 was re rooted using bin4ry v31 after the last ota update 8.4.8. It worked fine. Now there was another ota update to 8.4.9 on 6/14/14. I tried using the same method as before. ADB is enabled in my kindle, I am seeing Android Composite ADB interface. when I plug the kindle in. I got through part of the re root, where it rebooted, and now it is extremely slow, has a black screen with white cracked lines to slide in open, and although some things work they are very very slow. Please can someone either help me re root or unroot it so that the kindle runs normally. I don't know what mode that slow one is, but you can't do much of anything. I tried to roo a few times, and tried to put in the stock kindle update and re run it, but nothing is working to get it out of the slow mode. Right now my computer can see and put things onto the kindle, and when trying to root, it seems like it is trying to work, but since the kindle is slow, I don't know if it is getting stuck and not finishing.
Can you help me figure out what is wrong?
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Yep sucks for us for now it seems
Mine is in the same state. To unslow mo it all i found that works is using recovery mode to erase every single thing on it. This will speed it back up to normal. Beyond that i don't have a clue what to do.
You can enter recovery mode if you dont know how by pressing volume down and power. Or dl droid explorer run it click the multi colored shield icon and reboot to recovery.
I would hold off for now though. As one of these guys may have a way to save you all the head aches i have now. I had psp emulator playstation emu nintendo ds dolphin aka game cube and wii all running properly now all gone. go figure. Pain in the rear to get em all running properly. Oh worst bit loosing my crisis core newgame + save lvl 35+ with all items etc etc. Was gona put the hurt on every thing LOL
Oh and if theres any amazon employees lurking and reading great job on becoming a apple clone wanabe In other words amazon you all need to get a grip. People want to customize their tablets and have something that runs like mad with out regards to warranty. We want our tablets the way we want them not the way you want them. No one likes apple with their forced updaties etc
benee16 said:
My kindle hd 8.9 was re rooted using bin4ry v31 after the last ota update 8.4.8. It worked fine. Now there was another ota update to 8.4.9 on 6/14/14. I tried using the same method as before. ADB is enabled in my kindle, I am seeing Android Composite ADB interface. when I plug the kindle in. I got through part of the re root, where it rebooted, and now it is extremely slow, has a black screen with white cracked lines to slide in open, and although some things work they are very very slow. Please can someone either help me re root or unroot it so that the kindle runs normally. I don't know what mode that slow one is, but you can't do much of anything. I tried to roo a few times, and tried to put in the stock kindle update and re run it, but nothing is working to get it out of the slow mode. Right now my computer can see and put things onto the kindle, and when trying to root, it seems like it is trying to work, but since the kindle is slow, I don't know if it is getting stuck and not finishing.
Can you help me figure out what is wrong?
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Factory reset is always better than flashing and other serious tinkering. kindle hd 8.9 is still rootable with 8.4.9 update, I did it and another member KatanAlive have done it.
What method did you use to root? There are a few different methods. used bin4ry v31 I used the old special option, then also tried the old option.
akb1ajay said:
Factory reset is always better than flashing and other serious tinkering. kindle hd 8.9 is still rootable with 8.4.9 update, I did it and another member KatanAlive have done it.
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Ive tried various tools etc. While it seems i am able to get root i can not for example view the root directory in adb shell. I can kill any process under ps list even ones ran by root. Again the root directory shows as empty under ls. Running the superuser app that does show under apps seems t do nothing (im assuming this is because root is already active by this point) It does load but nothing in log window. Also it remains stuck running extremely slow. I can not install google frame work etc.
What i want to do is just go with a custom rom and be done with this mess. After all if amazon managed to force updates on kindles with ota disabled and blocked once they will likely be able to do so again. So theres zero point in staying on a stock rom even downgraded and or rooted.
Now the only problem there is it seems rom update requires fastboot? If this is not the case what are the steps to go about it by a different means? Or what methods other than fastboot cables are there to force it in to fastboot with out ripping in to the kindlefire hd 8.9 in my case?
benee16 said:
What method did you use to root? There are a few different methods. used bin4ry v31 I used the old special option, then also tried the old option.
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I used manual method described in this thread and yesterday another member also used this same method to root the Kindle with update 8.4.9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117
I have been extensively reading this forum for rooting Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and I have seen people failed just because of a simple mistake or not starting afresh. Many people were able to overcome their anomalous problem just by a factory reset and then starting again the process of rooting.
No one knows at which step problem started to appear until you clarify completely that what method you were following, or did you install some other drivers mentioned in another method, or did you interrupted the progress, or any other tinkering you had had done earlier with Kindle.
Every method pre assumes that your device is in default condition and your PC has favourable environment for the completion of the rooting process. Like a meber was following the process of rooting and when a stage came to enter his Amazon password, he entered the password but the process could not be continued, because his Kindle was not registered , so even after entering the correct password the process was aborted. Later he registered his Kindle and started agin and it was rooted.
So true what you've said about it not being a fresh root. I am going to try a few more times to root, then do a factory reset. My kindle could use a fresh start, but I thought I'd try just for future knowledge. If anyone else comes back from the slow kindle stage, please contribute what you've done to fix it because it may help someone else resolve their issues.
I decided to do a full restore. Then I was able to use a bin4ry script for kindles to root. Now I am having difficulty getting google play to work again. I keep getting an error not enough space on the partition \system. Free up 6MB in system and try again. I put a version of google market on to see if there would be a difference. I was able to open it, but nothing will download. Anyone else have any experience with this problem?
benee16 said:
I decided to do a full restore. Then I was able to use a bin4ry script for kindles to root. Now I am having difficulty getting google play to work again. I keep getting an error not enough space on the partition \system. Free up 6MB in system and try again. I put a version of google market on to see if there would be a difference. I was able to open it, but nothing will download. Anyone else have any experience with this problem?
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If you have rooted Kindle "not enough space" problem can be easily resolved. Is your Kindle rooted?
Yes my kindle fire hd 8.9 is rooted. I currently have version 8.4.9 software from amazon.
benee16 said:
Yes my kindle fire hd 8.9 is rooted. I currently have version 8.4.9 software from amazon.
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I too have had this low space problem after updating to 8.4.9. I was despaired but after searching the internet for 2/3 hours I found the solution. First thing you need to do is to get Titanium Backup from somewhere. It has the capacity to convert system app to user app and this will free up some ROM space so you can install Google Play afterward. Convert one by one some system apps that are not critical to Kindle's functioning, to user app. For example, you can convert Silk browser, Amazon Video, Amazon music, Kindle tutorial, Office Suite to user app. The moment you have above 20 MB free space in ROM you can install there Google Play. I am not sure if a free version of Titanium Backup have this functionality or not, I have installed a pro version of it. If free version is of no use then get a pro version from somewhere. I think you know where to get it from. Good Luck.
Wow thanks so much for the info. I did not have the pro version of titanium. Instead I used /system /app mover which is a free app. I changed a few system files to user files like suggested and am now able to use google play. I made sure I could download apps from it also, and it worked just fine. Now I have to re download apps I lost when I had to restore.
benee16 said:
Wow thanks so much for the info. I did not have the pro version of titanium. Instead I used /system /app mover which is a free app. I changed a few system files to user files like suggested and am now able to use google play. I made sure I could download apps from it also, and it worked just fine. Now I have to re download apps I lost when I had to restore.
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would not you press Thanks Button?

Can't launch SuperSU on Amazon Fire Tv

Hey, just wondering if anyone can help, for the past week I've been trying to fix a problem with my Fire tv and have tried various methods to fix this issue. Basically I use Sloane 5.0.5 r4 ROM on my aftv 2, it comes with super su and the root does work as superuser requests pop up to allow or deny. However super su doesn't appear in apps (the GUI management tool) when installed (tried various versions of supersu from 2.4 to 2.7) and I try to launch it, it just takes me back to the home screen. From googling I can see a few others have a similar problem, some people suggesting kingroot(not keen to use that as it doesn't give me the same options as super su) some suggesting rbox will make an update to sort the problem. Although not something I know is definite. The super su works and it's binaries as suggested earlier but the gui tool is nowhere to be seen. Even tried changing sloanes rom and replacing it with another supersu version but this hasn't worked. Just to add more details im running TWRP recovery also!
Thanks.
Aaron-Marcus said:
Hey, just wondering if anyone can help, for the past week I've been trying to fix a problem with my Fire tv and have tried various methods to fix this issue. Basically I use Sloane 5.0.5 r4 ROM on my aftv 2, it comes with super su and the root does work as superuser requests pop up to allow or deny. However super su doesn't appear in apps (the GUI management tool) when installed (tried various versions of supersu from 2.4 to 2.7) and I try to launch it, it just takes me back to the home screen. From googling I can see a few others have a similar problem, some people suggesting kingroot(not keen to use that as it doesn't give me the same options as super su) some suggesting rbox will make an update to sort the problem. Although not something I know is definite. The super su works and it's binaries as suggested earlier but the gui tool is nowhere to be seen. Even tried changing sloanes rom and replacing it with another supersu version but this hasn't worked. Just to add more details im running TWRP recovery also!
Thanks.
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It's something Amazon does to Android and SuperSU being a system app. I noticed the same problem with the Play Store. You might be able to launch it while in an alternative launcher and/or using adb shell.
Run a adb shell and fire up this one
pm path eu.chainfire.supersu
Just to check the installation path
Hey rbox! Many thanks for your reply, and well done on your effort with this rom, can't fault it except for this minor issue. Been tearing my hair out trying to figure out exactly why it all looks fine and well but won't launch. I was thinking of trying to install play store using xposed, was looking at a guide online and wondered if it would open through play store. Didn't realise I could use another launcher with your rom though. Do you know if there's others you know that understands amazon devices to come up with a fix, update etc? seems like you're the only one to make a rom so far for the aftv so I'm guessing it'll take time until everyone fully understands amazon devices and apply similar Android based roms. Thanks for your advice.
Here's what the path came back as, I did notice there's two different locations for supersu though.
correct me if i'm wrong but as far as i know the supersu (the one that you just found) is the su binary but the GUI (which is responsible for the grant notification) is here: /system/app/Superuser.apk
I'm not 100% sure about it, so maybe someone could light up the dark
once sloane-5.0.5-rooted_r4 is flasheed can we update SU from play store?
Sure but you don't have to. Just take that one http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=eu.chainfire.supersu
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Cool thks but i purchased the pro and thought i could update without breaking anything on the fire
ok i updateed to pro since it was allready purchased, all went well but dont know what it does more since i cant open the app loll, but it works, thats what counts
Habs69M said:
ok i updateed to pro since it was allready purchased, all went well but dont know what it does more since i cant open the app loll, but it works, thats what counts
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My experience is with Firestick.
1) On main Amazon screen, go to the App line and look accros there.
2) Connect Wukong Remote https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wukongtv.wkremote.client.en and you'll see the Apps selection at bottom.
I like to go into Supersu settings and the default to "Grant" and I like to turn off notifications.
king200 said:
My experience is with Firestick.
1) On main Amazon screen, go to the App line and look accros there.
2) Connect Wukong Remote https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wukongtv.wkremote.client.en and you'll see the Apps selection at bottom.
I like to go into Supersu settings and the default to "Grant" and I like to turn off notifications.
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thks cool app but i still cant open super su , dont know after reading some that you even can
Arghhhh. Think I've soft bricked my fire tv or worse! I was re flashing the rom and was cleaning the data before hand, I must of wiped the system and now I'm only seeing the amazon white logo when i turn it on... Tried to install recovery again since I can't even get into recovery but when going through preloader it eventually says error can't find target file. Tried to use fast boot but fire tv isn't connecting to try and install recovery etc that way! You guys got any ideas or have I totally broken the device? ???
Keep calm buddy, als long as the preloader is still working everything is possible. Did you try to Flash TWRP again?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/firetv-2-unbrick-image-t3313349
Thank you so much! It saved the day! never will i ever be such a n00b and delete the entire system again. Also big thankyou RBOX for your guide and files to unbrick, they worked a dream. Everything is installed now, hopefully in near future someone manages to get SuperSu opening in the GUI lol im just happy I can actually use my fire tv again though!

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