What would be the best ROM for battery life? I'm using CyanogenMod atm and the battery life is decent. If I flash Android Rev. would I sacrifice battery life and if so by how much?
BLUuuE83 said:
What would be the best ROM for battery life? I'm using CyanogenMod atm and the battery life is decent. If I flash Android Rev. would I sacrifice battery life and if so by how much?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Battery usage is completely subjective so what will be awesome for one may be absolute crap to another. Only way you'll know is to try it yourself
BLUuuE83 said:
What would be the best ROM for battery life? I'm using CyanogenMod atm and the battery life is decent. If I flash Android Rev. would I sacrifice battery life and if so by how much?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As mentioned, battery life is completely up to your usage. Some steps to try though which can be used across any rom is to give Rom Cleaner a shot and to use Greenify. This will rid any rom of bloat that could be sucking up battery and better allow the device to enter deep sleep where the real battery savings are had.
A well optimized kernel would give you some savings as well. I can personally say that on ARHD 5.5 with Elemental kernel .15 I'm seeing about 70% battery left at the end of a normal day. For me though that may only be one 20 minute call and an hour of screen on time. Even when flashing and messing with tons of settings for hours, the phone has never reached a critical battery level for me. I
It's more about the way you optimize (or debloat) your phone , than the ROM you are running. Use battery monitors like GSam or Battery Drain Analyzer and freeze apps that are causing you huge drain. Greenify is also good. Ideally on the M8 you can expect around 6 hours of screen time if you're optimized correctly.
KarimSalloum said:
It's more about the way you optimize (or debloat) your phone , than the ROM you are running. Use battery monitors like GSam or Battery Drain Analyzer and freeze apps that are causing you huge drain. Greenify is also good. Ideally on the M8 you can expect around 6 hours of screen time if you're optimized correctly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This. I am able to get about 6 hours on stock, ARHD and Insertcoin. With power saver on, that ends up around 7-8 hours of screen time. Coming from a Nexus 5 that got 4 hours typically, I'm pretty satisfied. I'm inclined to believe ARHD will get "slightly" better battery life than CM since it is based off the stock ROM on the M8.
Generally the OEM skinned roms have better battery life and benchmark scores opposed to aosp. Happens all the time on Sammy phones and HTC apparently too. Posts above mine cover most you'll need to know. Its all about optimization and frankly that part is extremely fun and especially rewarding IMO. Gives me an idea for something like a community made thread on different battery tweaks/voltages :good:
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk
Thanks for all the feedback guys
I'm currently using Android Rev. 6.1 odexed (using ART atm) with ElementalX 0.10. I don't know if this is a placebo effect or not, but after flashing ElementalX(with default settings) my battery life seems worse :/
Related
I'd like to hear some experiences that everyone is having on how the battery life is on the stock ROM (POST OTA, NOT OVERCLOCKED) vs custom ROMs (Again, NOT overclocked).
I've tried the Virtuous ROM, and as expected the battery life got slurped down like coca-cola! CM6.1 isn't as bad, but still seems to suck the life out of the battery quite a bit faster than stock.
Is everyone seeing similar? What makes the stock ROM so much better on the battery?
My experience was actually quite the opposite. When I switched to CM, my battery life improved by about 20-25%. I have a NAM Desire Z so it was running HTC Sense over Froyo.
Remember that it takes a few days of usage for your battery to 'calibrate' itself to the new ROM. My first two days on CM were really bad, but since then, battery life has improved greatly. Yesterday, after moderate use and 15 hours, I still had 45% of my battery left. With my stock ROM, I would be lucky to get 15 hours of use out of the phone period.
As far as overclocking goes, I haven't seen much of a difference in battery life. Reason is, even though you are overclocked when the screen is on, you can adjust settings to under-clock at other times, saving battery power.
I would recommend trying a Custom ROM for 4-5 days, that will give you a better idea about its battery life. Also, there are lots of settings you can tweak that affect battery life greatly. Widgets, background data, signal strength... SOO many variables in personal usage that battery life is going to fluctuate user to user regardless.
Dear all,
I have a EURO Desire Z.
When I use a Sense based ROMs (in fact, stock or Virtuous) I have a fairly nice battery life, that is, in the 30 hours range.
However, with any kind of CM6 or CM7 (or even Vilain ROMs), the battery life is really reduced. Like 12-15h max (almost without any use).
The battery monitor will show that most power is eaten by Cell Standby, Wifi and Bluetooth. I tried different radios, but the result is still the same. I also tried various CPU governor settings, but it didn't change the big picture.
Any idea on what may be wrong ?
I found that CM6.1.1 did that to me too, but reverting to 6.1 got me very good battery life. While I like the Sense widgets, I much prefer vanilla for everything else so i have't lived with a Sense rom long enough to see if it gets better battery life than CM6.1
nbougues said:
Dear all,
I have a EURO Desire Z.
When I use a Sense based ROMs (in fact, stock or Virtuous) I have a fairly nice battery life, that is, in the 30 hours range.
However, with any kind of CM6 or CM7 (or even Vilain ROMs), the battery life is really reduced. Like 12-15h max (almost without any use).
The battery monitor will show that most power is eaten by Cell Standby, Wifi and Bluetooth. I tried different radios, but the result is still the same. I also tried various CPU governor settings, but it didn't change the big picture.
Any idea on what may be wrong ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the exact same issue as you with CM6 (retarded <12 hr battery life with light-moderate use). After seeing your post, I've decided to try a sense rom for myself. Will post results tonight or in a day.
Nope. Still drains like ****.
This may be teaching you to suck eggs, but are you recalibrating your battery after flashing a new ROM?
I found my battery life was immediately atrocious after flashing, until I completely drained the battery til phone wouldn't switch, then charge while switched off, until green light + a couple of hours. Then wipe battery stats in ClockworkMod.
After this, I found my battery life on CM 6 was really good.
setspeed said:
This may be teaching you to suck eggs, but are you recalibrating your battery after flashing a new ROM?
I found my battery life was immediately atrocious after flashing, until I completely drained the battery til phone wouldn't switch, then charge while switched off, until green light + a couple of hours. Then wipe battery stats in ClockworkMod.
After this, I found my battery life on CM 6 was really good.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I never did that. I'm not really familiar with the "battery calibration" stuff, but it sounds like something that will help to get good linearity in battery capacity estimation over time.
What I'm pretty sure, though, is that at some point (like 10-12h), the phone turns itself off. I believe that it has to do with insufficient voltage at battery terminals, rather than some sort of estimation of remaining capacity.
Or am I totally off ?
I have poor battery life on my desire, it barely lasts 7 hours. I have tried wiping battery stats etc, and have the screen brightness at 50%. I have read that some kernels can greatly improve battery life, is this true? If so, which would you recommend, and do I just flash it like I would a rom? I am using the latest miui.
Cheers,
Steve
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
They can but finding the underlying app causing the phone not to sleep would be what I'd be looking at. Remove all installed apps and add them 1 at a time and see how the battery goes
EddyOS said:
They can but finding the underlying app causing the phone not to sleep would be what I'd be looking at. Remove all installed apps and add them 1 at a time and see how the battery goes
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah i've tried this, there's nothing draining the battery.
Not at all
Such battery drainage can only be induced by either heavy usage, or phone not being able to go to sleep.
The differences between kernels in custom roms are merely a shades since all of them are pretty much battery efficient. You won't miraculously jump from battery life of 7 hours to 30 hours. Concentrate on your apps or even better, third party Widgets.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Probably a hardware fault then - the OS on it's own with no apps installed shouldn't drain a battery that quickly. Did you also turn off the sync options to test that theory?
Personally sounds like a knackered battery/phone
If it isn't apps/widgets (they are the culprit for heavy usage) then it would prob be a faulty battery. I did a little test last month to see how much battery I could lose in 24 hours. I lost 8%. I guess it could be a baseline to start off with.
I'm on an incredible 2 with cm9 but am looking into doing my gf's nexus so she can get some better battery life. I already turned off LTE but if she actually uses it throughout the day, its dead by 6. So I'm wondering what the best option for battery life? I seem drawn to Gummy for some reason...
Kayak83 said:
I'm on an incredible 2 with cm9 but am looking into doing my gf's nexus so she can get some better battery life. I already turned off LTE but if she actually uses it throughout the day, its dead by 6. So I'm wondering what the best option for battery life? I seem drawn to Gummy for some reason...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gummy is known to have some of the best battery life. Liquidsmooth is very good also.
Only reason I didn't try Gummy yet is the official update isn't out yet, the 4.0.4 build. Still in testing.
I'm on GSM tho so idk bout CDMA
Liquidsmooth
I am running liquidsmooth 1.25 and am getting over 2 days - I attached a screenshot
I got very good battery life using AOKP B29, and using LeanKernal 3.1.0 EXP1 180. I also turned off my 4g, and usually have my brightness to the very lowest setting. 4G and the screen are what eat up 90% of your battery.
truwire said:
I am running liquidsmooth 1.25 and am getting over 2 days - I attached a screenshot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Happens when you don't use your phone.
Bugless Beast has been the best for me by far. I get about 30% better battery life on BB than with Gummy/Leankernel. My 2ยข.
martonikaj said:
Happens when you don't use your phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right, which would show that the ROM itself is good for battery life.
truwire said:
Right, which would show that the ROM itself is good for battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
.... any ROM can do good on battery life when you don't turn on the screen.
Also, OP is asking for LTE recommendations and you're on GSM.
martonikaj said:
.... any ROM can do good on battery life when you don't turn on the screen.
Also, OP is asking for LTE recommendations and you're on GSM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The display should drain battery at a consistent rate (depending on brightness, etc) but independent of the ROM shouldn't it? I don't think that the stock ROM's display power draw would really differ from Liquids display power draw. Same thing with the radios...but maybe I'm wrong.
Also, I was simply showing the success that I have had with this ROM - which is notably improved battery life from stock.
truwire said:
The display should drain battery at a consistent rate (depending on brightness, etc) but independent of the ROM shouldn't it? I don't think that the stock ROM's display power draw would really differ from Liquids display power draw. Same thing with the radios...but maybe I'm wrong.
Also, I was simply showing the success that I have had with this ROM - which is notably improved battery life from stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your wrong kinda-ish haha.....some ROMs get better battery life when screen is on. Pretty much fact.
Actual screen power usage like the amount of mah's or w/e, it might be the same across everything.....but it the amount of battery being used by the OS etc...where the ROMs differ when screen is on for the most part.
Hence, I can get like 40 minutes of straight screen usage and 10% on Liquidsmooth and kernel, but only like 25-30 on another setup.
Oh and btw......for the most part, battery life is heavily dependent upon Kernel more than ROM. Though the combination of the two definitely play a significant role.
I have to agree with this. The kernel is what really will determine your battery life and how you utilize the options that the kernel provides. That combined with screen brightness are the biggest factors. AOKP + the Franco kernel have been the best combo for me. For medium to heavy usage I get about 12 hours a day.
I'm just wondering if there's any known methods to increase the battery life without sacrificing performance. I know the basic stuff like turning off Gps, Wifi, Data, etc. when not needed but is there anything else I can do to prolong the battery life? I'm currently running the wanam lite rom with trininty's alpha 7b kernel. A couple of people reported great battery life with this combo but I'm only getting a little bit better than stock battery life.
What exactly is a little bit better than stock? How many hours are you getting?
theexel said:
What exactly is a little bit better than stock? How many hours are you getting?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well with moderate use ( 3-4 hours of web browsing, playing games, etc.) on stock I get about 9 hours and with this rom and kernel I get roughly 9 and half.
theboss23 said:
Well with moderate use ( 3-4 hours of web browsing, playing games, etc.) on stock I get about 9 hours and with this rom and kernel I get roughly 9 and half.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I get the same too, kind of hate it :/ I don't understand what drain so much when the phone is not in use, I always wonder why stand by time is so bad in my phone, I get much better battery life rooted but I'm stock right now, I got tired of flashing roms and I hate to wipe every time I flashed so I prefer stock to stop doing that
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
jgalan14 said:
I get the same too, kind of hate it :/ I don't understand what drain so much when the phone is not in use, I always wonder why stand by time is so bad in my phone, I get much better battery life rooted but I'm stock right now, I got tired of flashing roms and I hate to wipe every time I flashed so I prefer stock to stop doing that
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, The rom is based off of stock H2 and is supposed to have some battery tweaks to make it last longer. All of the people said battery was good using this combo and 1 person said it's been 1 day 16 minutes, and they had 26% left but they didn't post the usage.
Ok this is with the stock rom. Heavy usage by my means any way. It was on the charger for a few mins here and there. But really not enough to show real battery increase.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
The best way to determine battery life (not I played a game for a little, surfed the web over 4G, called some, texted all day) is to take a screenshot of your Screen On time, and overall time since charging. Otherwise, your statements are pointless.
If u have a rooted device u should try the highonandriod Rom it dies have better battery life than stock
theking_13 said:
The best way to determine battery life (not I played a game for a little, surfed the web over 4G, called some, texted all day) is to take a screenshot of your Screen On time, and overall time since charging. Otherwise, your statements are pointless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well the purpose of this thread wasn't to solve an issue with my battery life or determine my exact amount battery life, but rather to find out if there are any tricks to improve battery life. So there's no reason for me to post any screens of my battery stats because it's irrelevant to the thread, I was just wondering if anyone knew any tricks or tips they use to improve their battery life.
gonnapushthru06 said:
If u have a rooted device u should try the highonandriod Rom it dies have better battery life than stock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm very happy with Wanam Lite for now, it's so far the smoothest stock rom I've flashed and I'm eagerly awaiting the next update, so I don't really plan on flashing anything else for now. Thanks for the suggestion though, I'll definitely give it a shot when I'm looking for another rom to flash.
Disable auto synchronize. Thats the key.
theboss23 said:
Well with moderate use ( 3-4 hours of web browsing, playing games, etc.) on stock I get about 9 hours and with this rom and kernel I get roughly 9 and half.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm on Verizon but I use synergy with imoseyons kernel and could get 5bhours browsing but I played fifa pretty much all day lol. Lte all day.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 with AOKP Butter
theboss23 said:
Well the purpose of this thread wasn't to solve an issue with my battery life or determine my exact amount battery life, but rather to find out if there are any tricks to improve battery life. So there's no reason for me to post any screens of my battery stats because it's irrelevant to the thread, I was just wondering if anyone knew any tricks or tips they use to improve their battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't use the phone. The screen will almost always be your biggest power draw. Screen-on time is relevant because if you have the screen on for three or four hours you aren't going to see battery life that is any better.
joshnichols189 said:
Don't use the phone. The screen will almost always be your biggest power draw. Screen-on time is relevant because if you have the screen on for three or four hours you aren't going to see battery life that is any better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your right, it is relevant when comparing, but I'm not comparing anything here just looking for tips and tricks. I looked at battery stats when I compared the stock battery to the rom battery and recorded both stats on heavy use. If you want statistics, I got 9h 38m of battery use, internet and netflix took up 31% battery consumption, games took up 23%, phone calls and texting took up 12%, and the other 34% is basically screen off time. These were the stats from when I tested it on the Wanam Lite rom. I'm not confused as to why it only lasts about 9 and a half, hours as you can see I was constantly on the phone when I was testing it.
theboss23 said:
Your right, it is relevant when comparing, but I'm not comparing anything here just looking for tips and tricks. I looked at battery stats when I compared the stock battery to the rom battery and recorded both stats on heavy use. If you want statistics, I got 9h 38m of battery use, internet and netflix took up 31% battery consumption, games took up 23%, phone calls and texting took up 12%, and the other 34% is basically screen off time. These were the stats from when I tested it on the Wanam Lite rom. I'm not confused as to why it only lasts about 9 and a half, hours as you can see I was constantly on the phone when I was testing it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well not only were you watching a video (I assume, instead of just browsing) Netflix, you were streaming. That probably did a number on your battery. I know I cannot stream Netflix for very long if I want my phone to last through the day. Also games, things that will ramp up the processor, etc while using the screen will tax your battery more than usual.
theboss23 said:
I'm just wondering if there's any known methods to increase the battery life without sacrificing performance. I know the basic stuff like turning off Gps, Wifi, Data, etc. when not needed but is there anything else I can do to prolong the battery life? I'm currently running the wanam lite rom with trininty's alpha 7b kernel. A couple of people reported great battery life with this combo but I'm only getting a little bit better than stock battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some may not like my answer because it removes some bells and whistles, but I suggest turning off all the motion features. Just my two cents. Battery life was better and I found most of the motion features unnecessary.
joshnichols189 said:
Don't use the phone. The screen will almost always be your biggest power draw. Screen-on time is relevant because if you have the screen on for three or four hours you aren't going to see battery life that is any better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Dont use the phone" ....LMAO!!
joshnichols189 said:
Well not only were you watching a video (I assume, instead of just browsing) Netflix, you were streaming. That probably did a number on your battery. I know I cannot stream Netflix for very long if I want my phone to last through the day. Also games, things that will ramp up the processor, etc while using the screen will tax your battery more than usual.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, this isn't my everyday use, nor would I do this if I was trying to maximize my battery life. This was purely for testing the battery life on heavy usage and I found that it was only a little bit better when compared to stock. I'm in no way complaining, I think Wanam has done a amazing job with the rom. The stability is great, speed is comparable to JB roms, and battery is a lot better. Unless used heavily as shown above, then it's only slightly better then stock which is kind of odd but makes sense. I was just wondering what all a person could do to maximize their battery life, that's all.
jcbofkc said:
Some may not like my answer because it removes some bells and whistles, but I suggest turning off all the motion features. Just my two cents. Battery life was better and I found most of the motion features unnecessary.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely try this since I don't use most of the motion features either.
lazarat said:
"Dont use the phone" ....LMAO!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Once again, thanks for the useless post. It's called sarcasm. Too bad your skull is too thick to pick up on it.
theboss23 said:
Yeah, this isn't my everyday use, nor would I do this if I was trying to maximize my battery life. This was purely for testing the battery life on heavy usage and I found that it was only a little bit better when compared to stock. I'm in no way complaining, I think Wanam has done a amazing job with the rom. The stability is great, speed is comparable to JB roms, and battery is a lot better. Unless used heavily as shown above, then it's only slightly better then stock which is kind of odd but makes sense. I just was wondering what all a person could do to maximize their battery life, that's all.
Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely try this since I don't use most of the motion features either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No worries! If you have trouble with idle battery drain, something like Juice Defender will help a lot if you're going to have the phone idle for extended periods of time. Other than that, all I can think of is underclocking (I run at 1350), and sometimes overclocking your min-CPU speed can help as well. The thought behind this is is that the CPU will be able to finish tasks faster, even if slightly, and then be able to go back into deep sleep. I know a lot of people on the Galaxy Nexus forums run 700min, 1000max because of this.
joshnichols189 said:
sometimes overclocking your min-CPU speed can help as well. The thought behind this is is that the CPU will be able to finish tasks faster, even if slightly, and then be able to go back into deep sleep. I know a lot of people on the Galaxy Nexus forums run 700min, 1000max because of this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, I actually didn't know that, I also heard undervolting can increase battery life and reduce the battery/phone heating up but someone said that it can it will have a major effect on the CPU, not sure if it's true or not.