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I just recently bought a 3500mAh extended battery from amazon. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042TY68C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1N1UQZS4G6GV9). I just got done fully charging it, i let it charge fully over night, just unplugged it and boom 10 minutes unplugged with me not even touching it just letting it sit on my desk we are down to 95%. I know you are suppost to cycle these batteries and stuff before u can actually see the fully life of it and i plan to do that. My question is i downloaded battery monitor widget and on the main screen its calling the battery a techno-Li-ion 1425/1500mAh battery. I know this isnt right ive cleared battery stats probably 10 times total now, through recovery and through the battery monitor widget app. Im hopping i didnt get ripped off and it just takes a few discharges for the phone to recognize the new battery? Any help would be appreciated.
I plan on letting the battery get to 15-20% and then charge it all the way up again and do these a few times, as well as clear the battery stats. This is what i read to do with new batteries? Please correct me if im wrong..
When using an extended battery you are not going to get a full charge unless you condition it or you could use a SBC kernel.
how much will u get out of it then without the sbc?
I bought this exact same battery. I used it at the time on my Evo unrooted. The first one that came to me (2 weeks late) wouldn't even power up. The second one they sent me I ran for about 3 weeks and put the stock battery back in. I was about to get 9 to 12 hours on my stock battery and with this extended I was getting the same. 2 weeks into using it the battery life got crappier everyday. To me it wasn't worth the added bulk for the same or less life. Since then I now run CM7 on the Tiamat sbc kernel with my stock battery that is almost a year old and get close to 18-20 hours out of an almost year old stock battery.
I use the SBC kernel, battery monitor widget, and the 3500mah battery. The thing lasts for days. Literally. When the green light comes on at "100%", that means NOTHING.
I ran it stone cold dead yesterday on purpose. Plugged it in at 10:00pm using my 800mah AC charger.
10:00pm: Plugged in, begins charging at ~700mah (max for my charger)
12:45am: Phone indicates 100% @ 4018mV but keeps charging at 700mah
2:00am: Charge rate ramping down @ 4197Mv
2:45am: Charge rate 100mah
3:00am: Charge rate 50mah
4:00am: Charge rate 15mah
4:30am: Charge rate 10mah which it remains at when fully charged (4198mV)
Stone cold dead to green light was only about 3 hours. BUT, stone cold dead to actually fully charged was really double that.
Obviously if the battery isn't dea, it will take conciderably less time. If you charge it with a PC, limiting the total current to 500mah, it will take conciderably longer.
So battery monitor widget calling it a 1500mAh battery doesn't mean anything? Right?
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beanx said:
I just recently bought a 3500mAh extended battery from amazon. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042TY68C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1N1UQZS4G6GV9). I just got done fully charging it, i let it charge fully over night, just unplugged it and boom 10 minutes unplugged with me not even touching it just letting it sit on my desk we are down to 95%. I know you are suppost to cycle these batteries and stuff before u can actually see the fully life of it and i plan to do that. My question is i downloaded battery monitor widget and on the main screen its calling the battery a techno-Li-ion 1425/1500mAh battery. I know this isnt right ive cleared battery stats probably 10 times total now, through recovery and through the battery monitor widget app. Im hopping i didnt get ripped off and it just takes a few discharges for the phone to recognize the new battery? Any help would be appreciated.
I plan on letting the battery get to 15-20% and then charge it all the way up again and do these a few times, as well as clear the battery stats. This is what i read to do with new batteries? Please correct me if im wrong..
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Which battery monitor widget did you use?
The one by 3c06 white icon with a batteryin the middle and graph going through it.
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The one by 3c06 white icon with a batteryin the middle and graph going through it.
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Ahh... yes. I know now which one
I have the exact same battery and I'm wondering is the percent shown total BS? Mine is showing 87% with 4000mV left after charging overnight with an SBC kernal.
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Yea I'm at 8hr40min as of right now @ 17% battery. I've had my display backlight turned down and have been at work the whole day doin nothing with my phone but light texting and posting in this thread. With my stock battery I get around 12 hours before the phone almost dies with regular/mild use.I'm starting to think this battery was a rip off.. hopefully once I charge it back up it will last longer but idk... If anyone has any tips or tricks to make this battery last longer please help me out.
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FYI, after 12hrs, i'm only at 70%. That is with very poor signal at work all day, and playing pandora on the way in.
beanx said:
So battery monitor widget calling it a 1500mAh battery doesn't mean anything? Right?
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The newest version allows you to override that. Previously, the phone was telling it the capacity was 1500mah because that what the normal battery is supposed to be. The new version let me change it to 3500. So the % estimation should be accurate now. It is claiming I have 70% remaining or 2450mah. And 70% of 3500 is 2450. Now, where it came up with 2450, I have no idea.
The first time after ur charged the battery when u got it did u let it completely die or plug it in when it hit 10% or so?
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My first full charge on the same battery I got the exact same behavior. I was on the Stock Kernal that came with CM7.
Second charge, after changing to the Tiamat SBC, my battery is screaming... 6+ hours of heavy usage (video, web, lots and lots of text and 30mins of calling) and I am still over 50%. By now, I would have had to charge the regular battery...
Very pleased with this thing...
well im about ready to unplug mine for the day and see how it goes, i fully charged it with the phone off with a wall charger. And have been cycling it witht he phone off by unplugging it when the light turns green, waiting for the light to turn off, then plugging it back in until the light turns from orange to green again. Ive been doing this for the last hour or so because somone in another thread about this battery said it help him out alot, i did unplug it when i first woke up and it dropped from 100 to 92 within 3 minutes so thats when i tried this cycling, i did unplug it in the middle after doing a dozen or more of these cycles and it staid at 100 for quiet a while then dropped to 99 after about 5-6 minutes of being unplugged and me browsing the web and market this being a huge improvement so id have to say the cycling of the battery does help idk how or why but whatever im not complaining ill post back later tonight once i see how the battery acts.
So far I've had terrible luck with this battery can't get more time than stock. Charging it with an SBC kernal and it doesn't help, was avoiding spending 60 bucks on a battery but I think Ive no other choice.
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im at 2 hours with it right now, down to 70% i used it pretty heavily about 30min ago to reflash cm7, savagedzen sbc kernal, download all my apps, setup launcher pro plus, and re confiugre everything. It dropped rather quickly from 100 to where its at now so i guess we will see, BMW is estimating 10hr40min remaining battery life right now which would put it at about where my stock battery would die at around 12-13 hours, so we will see :-\
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BMW now saying 12hr10min at 70% battery? weirddd...
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BMW now saying 16hr23min at 65% battery, ive been using it moderately, used 4G for a second and WiFi for a few minutes as well...
Here's why the drop...the Evo along with other phones use bump charging to charge the battery meaning when the light is green you have anywhere between
90 and 100 percent at 89 percent down to zero you should not see such a dramatic drop...its a Evo thing the large drop
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MCL1981 said:
FYI, after 12hrs, i'm only at 70%. That is with very poor signal at work all day, and playing pandora on the way in.
The newest version allows you to override that. Previously, the phone was telling it the capacity was 1500mah because that what the normal battery is supposed to be. The new version let me change it to 3500. So the % estimation should be accurate now. It is claiming I have 70% remaining or 2450mah. And 70% of 3500 is 2450. Now, where it came up with 2450, I have no idea.
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How do you override that value? I looked all through the widget settings and I'm not seeing it.
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How do you override that value? I looked all through the widget settings and I'm not seeing it.
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go into bmw, go to settings, monitoring preferences, second from the bottom battery capacity, just change that value from 1500 to 3500, took me a while to find it as well.
I was wondering how i would set up my phone. Reset batt stats, longer charge times or something on how to get the best out of the extended 3500 battery. Also any hints or advice?
i have the same one and i just cleared the stats after charging the battery till full.
Sorry bad post delete please. This message just this one lol.
How do I know its full. ? Just over charge it with it on or off?. That's what u wanted to know. And does the percentage become accurate after doing this?. As I understand right now it should only register at 1500 right until the batvstats are chnage and then registers as 3500. And should display % based on that
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i let mine charge until the green light was on, then unplugged and waited for the light to go out and re plugged did that a couple times until light is orange and charged till it was green again. havent had any problems.(knock on wood)
Do you know how long it took for that process? im getting it green now and will do the rest tonight with it being off. I am hoping that it registers the full battery capacity.
I've had very good luck with a $7 Chinese 3500mah from Amazon. I reset my stats through my battery widget but not until weeks after I had the battery. I don't think I was rooted when I first bought it.
The first day I got it I installed it and it showed 66%. I ran it down to 0% which took a pretty long time. Supposedly that's important, several cycles of complete discharge.
I have this docking station that is absolutely worthless as a docking station, but pretty awesome as an external battery charger. I use that to charge it, and sometimes charge it while its in the phone with the stock wall charger. The phone recognizes the %'s pretty close. At first it would drop to 80ish% pretty fast and then be really long between 50-80. Now it seems pretty steady all the way through.
Hmm I never thought to run down a Li-Ion battery due to it not actually having a memory.. Well i got it fully charged and I will see how long it takes to run down.
So I am waiting on how things will go for it lol. Thanks for the help guys. If anyone else has anything else feel free to chip in.
Get the battery monitor widget int he market, go into the settings and make sure you set it for the maH that your battery is, and then try the guide in my signature.
I have had my extended battery for some time now. I don't have BMW and have no history out my battery on my phone. All I did was put the extended battery in, played with the phone like crazy, killed the battery all the way, kept the phone off and charged it until 1 hour after the LED turned green. No issues.
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I'm in the middle of a record setting run right now. This is very unusual. Usually I get 16-24 hours. My battery and EVO seem to have a mind of their own. But when it works it works good. I still struggle with intermittent 'android system' battery problems.
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I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
Logan176 said:
Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
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The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
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The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
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Before I had a fast charge kernel (thanks Chad!) Using GPS with the stock VZW car charger, my battery would go down while it was on the charger!
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On AOSP roms, the LED will turn green at 90% and charge slower from 90%-100%. Perfectly normal, and I think on any rom it will charge slowly from 90%-100% to protect the battery.
The battery will charge further when you turn the phone off, what you described is what's known as bump charging. If you do this, you should notice a slower drop from 100%-90% than usual, because the battery is charged to a "true" 100%. When the phone is on and charging (above 90%), it simply keeps the battery above 90% even if it says it's fully charged, and this is why the inc is notorious for the quick 100%-90% drop.
If you do a bump charge and then clear the battery stats and use the battery calibration app will you need to bump charge again or will it know what the true 100% capacity is and keep the droid lasting longer. Not noticing much of a diffrence when i went from 1300 battery to a 1500. May get a bigger batter that'll fit the stock battery door cause I'm trying to get the best battery life i can get.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. I think something else that has thrown me off is that before I rooted the phone I wasn't able to see the actual battery percentage in numbers... all I could see was the battery icon. Things are now making more sense.
After recalibrating my battery I bump charged the other day and I was able to get almost 2 days out of my phone on light usage. Without bumping, I was able to end my day yesterday at 50% under my normal usage. Which is a noticeable improvement. Normally I end the day with about 10-20%. The big test will be once I go back to work next week. The cell reception is real spotty in my classroom, which I know makes the cell radio work harder.
Thanks again.
I found a lot of answers I was having about battery charging in this thread:
Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)
I understand this is a sensitive subject to bring up, as there are 10 battery threads popping up each day.
But I think I have an unusual battery problem...
My Galaxy Nexus eats pretty much the same amount of juice whether it's powered on or completely powered off, and I get about 8h out of my batteries.
I have 3 batteries, and all of them give me about the same battery time.
I just did a short test:
1. Charge battery in cradle to full.
2. Put the fully charged battery into the phone.
3. Power on phone, and check battery - 99%
4. Power off.
5. Power on the phone 30 min later, and the battery is down to 91%
Can anyone out there give me a hint as to what can possibly drain my battery when the phone is powered off?
pejan said:
I understand this is a sensitive subject to bring up, as there are 10 battery threads popping up each day.
But I think I have an unusual battery problem...
My Galaxy Nexus eats pretty much the same amount of juice whether it's powered on or completely powered off, and I get about 8h out of my batteries.
I have 3 batteries, and all of them give me about the same battery time.
I just did a short test:
1. Charge battery in cradle to full.
2. Put the fully charged battery into the phone.
3. Power on phone, and check battery - 99%
4. Power off.
5. Power on the phone 30 min later, and the battery is down to 91%
Can anyone out there give me a hint as to what can possibly drain my battery when the phone is powered off?
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your batterstats can be off a little, or your 3 batteries are bad.
pejan said:
I understand this is a sensitive subject to bring up, as there are 10 battery threads popping up each day.
But I think I have an unusual battery problem...
My Galaxy Nexus eats pretty much the same amount of juice whether it's powered on or completely powered off, and I get about 8h out of my batteries.
I have 3 batteries, and all of them give me about the same battery time.
I just did a short test:
1. Charge battery in cradle to full.
2. Put the fully charged battery into the phone.
3. Power on phone, and check battery - 99%
4. Power off.
5. Power on the phone 30 min later, and the battery is down to 91%
Can anyone out there give me a hint as to what can possibly drain my battery when the phone is powered off?
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If your phone is draining a significant amount of battery over a matter of several hours....say...20-30% or more during an eight hour period of being turned off, then something is wrong with your phone or batteries (less likely with all three).
I suppose it's possible that all 3 batteries are bad, but I find it unlikely as I didn't buy them at the same time.
I have tried to reset the battery stats from the CWM recovery menu, but I read earlier today that resetting the battery stats does not influence battery time.
8h, then the phone shuts off.
Or leaving the phone powered off for about the same time, I can't power it on as the battery is completely drained.
Once your battery is fully charged it will stop charging the phone but continue to display that it's "charged" until it drops below 90%.
After you restart the phone it will display the current charge.
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El Daddy said:
Once your battery is fully charged it will stop charging the phone but continue to display that it's "charged" until it drops below 90%.
After you restart the phone it will display the current charge.
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His batteries die when the phone is off. Did you even read the thread?
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His batteries die when the phone is off. Did you even read the thread?
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Yes I did read his post. I wrote what I thought was happening. It has been a common thing people have been confused about on android since day one.
In other news... You sure love your condescending replies don't you?
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El Daddy said:
Yes I did read his post. I wrote what I thought was happening. It has been a common thing people have been confused about on android since day one.
In other news... You sure love your condescending replies don't you?
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When your battery dies when it is off it is not doing what you are describing.
Implying you didn't read.
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El Daddy said:
Once your battery is fully charged it will stop charging the phone but continue to display that it's "charged" until it drops below 90%.
After you restart the phone it will display the current charge.
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Fyi that was only true on previous nexus like the nexus one. The gnex driver does not work this way anymore.
Might be a rouge app. Post a picture of your battery stats.
Swyped on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus
The other question is if the problem is a new one or something that's been going on since the phone was new?
He said even if his phone is off.
All these points to hardware issue.
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It is weird that the batteries drain when the phone is off.
Heck, even with only display off you should get even longer battery life.
But.... eight hours of battery life per day for the Gnex sounds "Normal" and "Right" to me!
If all three batteries are the same, than you should check the next logical step. Bigger Batteries.
Here is one from Amazon...
"Seidio BACY38SSGNLN-BK Innocell 3800mAh Super Extended Life Battery"
Hardware issue with the phone.
There is no way you should be draining a charged cell in 8 hours.
..this might be silly...but have you tried charging the batteries in the phone itself? (sounds like you charge them externally only)
defective hardware
I agree that it is probably defective hardware.
When a device is powered off, the battery should drain very slowly.
It might still be helpful if we could see a picture of your battery stats.
Here is mine, and you can see my screen is taking most of the battery life.
Which is because I have it set for max brightness.
After a long time no use, I took my a100 out and charge it, the red led at the power button lighted up but it never turn blue even 10 hours later. I powered it on and noticed the battery level was always 0%, everything else is ok though. If i unplug the charger, my tablet turn off immediately. Then I disassemble it, take the battery out and charger it directly about 10 minutes, then i assemble and turn my tablet on, the battery now is 35% but the problem still the same, it can't be charged, the red led still light though. Is there any body know what the problem is and how to fix it, help me please. thanks in advance.
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Not an answer to you Q but I have to say It's always nice not having a removable battery ......can't we just get a battery door and some AA duracells for old times sake
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Letting a battery fully discharge is about the worst thing you can do, mostly due to the fact that if the battery voltage drops to low it shuts down to prevent cell damage. Basically the battery is telling the Acer it can't be charged because its damaged.
Short answer - new battery time. If you know someone else with one swap and test.
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