3500mAh Extended Battery From Amazon Question - EVO 4G Accessories

I just recently bought a 3500mAh extended battery from amazon. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042TY68C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1N1UQZS4G6GV9). I just got done fully charging it, i let it charge fully over night, just unplugged it and boom 10 minutes unplugged with me not even touching it just letting it sit on my desk we are down to 95%. I know you are suppost to cycle these batteries and stuff before u can actually see the fully life of it and i plan to do that. My question is i downloaded battery monitor widget and on the main screen its calling the battery a techno-Li-ion 1425/1500mAh battery. I know this isnt right ive cleared battery stats probably 10 times total now, through recovery and through the battery monitor widget app. Im hopping i didnt get ripped off and it just takes a few discharges for the phone to recognize the new battery? Any help would be appreciated.
I plan on letting the battery get to 15-20% and then charge it all the way up again and do these a few times, as well as clear the battery stats. This is what i read to do with new batteries? Please correct me if im wrong..

When using an extended battery you are not going to get a full charge unless you condition it or you could use a SBC kernel.

how much will u get out of it then without the sbc?

I bought this exact same battery. I used it at the time on my Evo unrooted. The first one that came to me (2 weeks late) wouldn't even power up. The second one they sent me I ran for about 3 weeks and put the stock battery back in. I was about to get 9 to 12 hours on my stock battery and with this extended I was getting the same. 2 weeks into using it the battery life got crappier everyday. To me it wasn't worth the added bulk for the same or less life. Since then I now run CM7 on the Tiamat sbc kernel with my stock battery that is almost a year old and get close to 18-20 hours out of an almost year old stock battery.

I use the SBC kernel, battery monitor widget, and the 3500mah battery. The thing lasts for days. Literally. When the green light comes on at "100%", that means NOTHING.
I ran it stone cold dead yesterday on purpose. Plugged it in at 10:00pm using my 800mah AC charger.
10:00pm: Plugged in, begins charging at ~700mah (max for my charger)
12:45am: Phone indicates 100% @ 4018mV but keeps charging at 700mah
2:00am: Charge rate ramping down @ 4197Mv
2:45am: Charge rate 100mah
3:00am: Charge rate 50mah
4:00am: Charge rate 15mah
4:30am: Charge rate 10mah which it remains at when fully charged (4198mV)
Stone cold dead to green light was only about 3 hours. BUT, stone cold dead to actually fully charged was really double that.
Obviously if the battery isn't dea, it will take conciderably less time. If you charge it with a PC, limiting the total current to 500mah, it will take conciderably longer.

So battery monitor widget calling it a 1500mAh battery doesn't mean anything? Right?
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beanx said:
I just recently bought a 3500mAh extended battery from amazon. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042TY68C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1N1UQZS4G6GV9). I just got done fully charging it, i let it charge fully over night, just unplugged it and boom 10 minutes unplugged with me not even touching it just letting it sit on my desk we are down to 95%. I know you are suppost to cycle these batteries and stuff before u can actually see the fully life of it and i plan to do that. My question is i downloaded battery monitor widget and on the main screen its calling the battery a techno-Li-ion 1425/1500mAh battery. I know this isnt right ive cleared battery stats probably 10 times total now, through recovery and through the battery monitor widget app. Im hopping i didnt get ripped off and it just takes a few discharges for the phone to recognize the new battery? Any help would be appreciated.
I plan on letting the battery get to 15-20% and then charge it all the way up again and do these a few times, as well as clear the battery stats. This is what i read to do with new batteries? Please correct me if im wrong..
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Which battery monitor widget did you use?

The one by 3c06 white icon with a batteryin the middle and graph going through it.
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The one by 3c06 white icon with a batteryin the middle and graph going through it.
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Ahh... yes. I know now which one

I have the exact same battery and I'm wondering is the percent shown total BS? Mine is showing 87% with 4000mV left after charging overnight with an SBC kernal.
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Yea I'm at 8hr40min as of right now @ 17% battery. I've had my display backlight turned down and have been at work the whole day doin nothing with my phone but light texting and posting in this thread. With my stock battery I get around 12 hours before the phone almost dies with regular/mild use.I'm starting to think this battery was a rip off.. hopefully once I charge it back up it will last longer but idk... If anyone has any tips or tricks to make this battery last longer please help me out.
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FYI, after 12hrs, i'm only at 70%. That is with very poor signal at work all day, and playing pandora on the way in.
beanx said:
So battery monitor widget calling it a 1500mAh battery doesn't mean anything? Right?
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The newest version allows you to override that. Previously, the phone was telling it the capacity was 1500mah because that what the normal battery is supposed to be. The new version let me change it to 3500. So the % estimation should be accurate now. It is claiming I have 70% remaining or 2450mah. And 70% of 3500 is 2450. Now, where it came up with 2450, I have no idea.

The first time after ur charged the battery when u got it did u let it completely die or plug it in when it hit 10% or so?
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My first full charge on the same battery I got the exact same behavior. I was on the Stock Kernal that came with CM7.
Second charge, after changing to the Tiamat SBC, my battery is screaming... 6+ hours of heavy usage (video, web, lots and lots of text and 30mins of calling) and I am still over 50%. By now, I would have had to charge the regular battery...
Very pleased with this thing...

well im about ready to unplug mine for the day and see how it goes, i fully charged it with the phone off with a wall charger. And have been cycling it witht he phone off by unplugging it when the light turns green, waiting for the light to turn off, then plugging it back in until the light turns from orange to green again. Ive been doing this for the last hour or so because somone in another thread about this battery said it help him out alot, i did unplug it when i first woke up and it dropped from 100 to 92 within 3 minutes so thats when i tried this cycling, i did unplug it in the middle after doing a dozen or more of these cycles and it staid at 100 for quiet a while then dropped to 99 after about 5-6 minutes of being unplugged and me browsing the web and market this being a huge improvement so id have to say the cycling of the battery does help idk how or why but whatever im not complaining ill post back later tonight once i see how the battery acts.

So far I've had terrible luck with this battery can't get more time than stock. Charging it with an SBC kernal and it doesn't help, was avoiding spending 60 bucks on a battery but I think Ive no other choice.
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im at 2 hours with it right now, down to 70% i used it pretty heavily about 30min ago to reflash cm7, savagedzen sbc kernal, download all my apps, setup launcher pro plus, and re confiugre everything. It dropped rather quickly from 100 to where its at now so i guess we will see, BMW is estimating 10hr40min remaining battery life right now which would put it at about where my stock battery would die at around 12-13 hours, so we will see :-\
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BMW now saying 12hr10min at 70% battery? weirddd...
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BMW now saying 16hr23min at 65% battery, ive been using it moderately, used 4G for a second and WiFi for a few minutes as well...

Here's why the drop...the Evo along with other phones use bump charging to charge the battery meaning when the light is green you have anywhere between
90 and 100 percent at 89 percent down to zero you should not see such a dramatic drop...its a Evo thing the large drop
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MCL1981 said:
FYI, after 12hrs, i'm only at 70%. That is with very poor signal at work all day, and playing pandora on the way in.
The newest version allows you to override that. Previously, the phone was telling it the capacity was 1500mah because that what the normal battery is supposed to be. The new version let me change it to 3500. So the % estimation should be accurate now. It is claiming I have 70% remaining or 2450mah. And 70% of 3500 is 2450. Now, where it came up with 2450, I have no idea.
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How do you override that value? I looked all through the widget settings and I'm not seeing it.

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How do you override that value? I looked all through the widget settings and I'm not seeing it.
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go into bmw, go to settings, monitoring preferences, second from the bottom battery capacity, just change that value from 1500 to 3500, took me a while to find it as well.

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[Q] Seidio 3500 mAh battery question..

i just got this battery and did the initial 8hour charge... but im seeing that once i take it out of the plug, battery monitor says it starts at 100% and then after 15 minutes drops to 86%....
is this bad reading from the program? or did i get a defective battery?
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uget2seconds said:
i just got this battery and did the initial 8hour charge... but im seeing that once i take it out of the plug, battery monitor says it starts at 100% and then after 15 minutes drops to 86%....
is this bad reading from the program? or did i get a defective battery?
using Baked 1.7 with Kernel 6
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Are you using an external battery charger or are you charging through your phone? I do not have one of these batteries but I'm under the impression that the EVO firmware will only allow a charge of 4.15v which would be far below the requirments of a 3500mAh battery.
If you have an external charger and that is what you are using.... I would say your battery is defective. Contact the manufacture for recommendations.
No, I am using the phone to charge....is this a hardware limitation or is there a patch for this?
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Have you wiped battery data via recivery?
Shouldnt matter but you might try
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No, I am using the phone to charge....is this a hardware limitation or is there a patch for this?
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Seido website says to charge until your phone shows 100% then leave on the charger for 2-3 addtional hours.
Even then I would think an external battery charger would be the route to take to unleash the full potential of the 3500mAh battery.
Keep me posted because I was thinking of buying one of those. But if you have to remove the battery to fully charge it then that would be a deal breaker for me.
wirenut110 said:
Seido website says to charge until your phone shows 100% then leave on the charger for 2-3 addtional hours.
Even then I would think an external battery charger would be the route to take to unleash the full potential of the 3500mAh battery.
Keep me posted because I was thinking of buying one of those. But if you have to remove the battery to fully charge it then that would be a deal breaker for me.
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I didn't have to use an external charger. The first charge I let go overnight. After 4-5 charge cycles the percentage drop was much more normal for that first 15 minutes, and of course after that the battery lasts forever at idle. I generally get 10-15 hours of heavy use (couple hours of streaming movies/music, texts, websurfing, some video conferencing, that kinda stuff), 20-30 moderate, and 40 with minimal usage.
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i just got this battery and did the initial 8hour charge... but im seeing that once i take it out of the plug, battery monitor says it starts at 100% and then after 15 minutes drops to 86%....
is this bad reading from the program? or did i get a defective battery?
using Baked 1.7 with Kernel 6
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The Evo cant charge this battery properly. The only way to get a proper charge is in a wall charger. Don't get me started. Look in the other 3500 thread for all you seek.
holy flying ducks!!!!! you guys dont read/search
there is an entire thread (266 replies) on this battery (infact, a few threads RIGHT below this one)....VERY lengthy too... reading and searching is fundamental folks!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736273
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in order to get full charge FROM any battery related to the evo, you will have to remove from phone.... something in the evo whether it be software or hardware doesnt allow us to charge more than 1500 (really 1400 +/- mah) back into the battery. Dont ask me why but it just is that way...sucks i know
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I didn't have to use an external charger. The first charge I let go overnight. After 4-5 charge cycles the percentage drop was much more normal for that first 15 minutes, and of course after that the battery lasts forever at idle. I generally get 10-15 hours of heavy use (couple hours of streaming movies/music, texts, websurfing, some video conferencing, that kinda stuff), 20-30 moderate, and 40 with minimal usage.
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you're actually cheating yourself and making your phone bulkier for no reason at all. WHile that 10-15 hours of heavy usage may be good...... if you actually think about the charging scheme.... you can do the same thing on the 1500 mah battery LOL
so while you THINK you are charging the battery after your light turns green on your phone, you are not. Your phone thinks the battery is still the 1500 mah battery so that is all it is charging. (yea... you got a bulkier phone and those other 1500mah arent being used/charged #fail)
I know so, cuz you said your battery percentage drops for the first 15 minutes.... with my seidio 3500 mah fully charged into the wall.... i leave the screen on for at least an hour and my battery is still a full 98% if not 99%
wall charger makes a world of difference, talking night and day.
im on my phone ALOT... i keep wifi and everything else on... with a wall charged battery, i see an easy 24 hours + !!!!! Sometimes i say to myself "why wont this damn thing die!!!!!!!!!!!!" no bull lol
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goodelyfe said:
holy flying ducks!!!!! you guys dont read/search
there is an entire thread (266 replies) on this battery (infact, a few threads RIGHT below this one)....VERY lengthy too... reading and searching is fundamental folks!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736273
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in order to get full charge FROM any battery related to the evo, you will have to remove from phone.... something in the evo whether it be software or hardware doesnt allow us to charge more than 1500 (really 1400 +/- mah) back into the battery. Dont ask me why but it just is that way...sucks i know
you're actually cheating yourself and making your phone bulkier for no reason at all. WHile that 10-15 hours of heavy usage may be good...... if you actually think about the charging scheme.... you can do the same thing on the 1500 mah battery LOL
so while you THINK you are charging the battery after your light turns green on your phone, you are not. Your phone thinks the battery is still the 1500 mah battery so that is all it is charging. (yea... you got a bulkier phone and those other 1500mah arent being used/charged #fail)
I know so, cuz you said your battery percentage drops for the first 15 minutes.... with my seidio 3500 mah fully charged into the wall.... i leave the screen on for at least an hour and my battery is still a full 98% if not 99%
wall charger makes a world of difference, talking night and day.
im on my phone ALOT... i keep wifi and everything else on... with a wall charged battery, i see an easy 24 hours + !!!!! Sometimes i say to myself "why wont this damn thing die!!!!!!!!!!!!" no bull lol
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Then that settles it..i will purchase a wall charger... Recommend any in particular?
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i just stayed with the same brand bro and got the seidio (lets you charge a battery AND use a usb cord to charge your phone).... beside it being on amazon prime didnt hurt either.
gotta love overnight shipping for 4 bucks
especially for gadget junkies like us
goodelyfe said:
i just stayed with the same brand bro and got the seidio (lets you charge a battery AND use a usb cord to charge your phone).... beside it being on amazon prime didnt hurt either.
gotta love overnight shipping for 4 bucks
especially for gadget junkies like us
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for real! thanks goodelyfe!
no prob homie

Bought extended battery today how to set up phone?

I was wondering how i would set up my phone. Reset batt stats, longer charge times or something on how to get the best out of the extended 3500 battery. Also any hints or advice?
i have the same one and i just cleared the stats after charging the battery till full.
Sorry bad post delete please. This message just this one lol.
How do I know its full. ? Just over charge it with it on or off?. That's what u wanted to know. And does the percentage become accurate after doing this?. As I understand right now it should only register at 1500 right until the batvstats are chnage and then registers as 3500. And should display % based on that
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i let mine charge until the green light was on, then unplugged and waited for the light to go out and re plugged did that a couple times until light is orange and charged till it was green again. havent had any problems.(knock on wood)
Do you know how long it took for that process? im getting it green now and will do the rest tonight with it being off. I am hoping that it registers the full battery capacity.
I've had very good luck with a $7 Chinese 3500mah from Amazon. I reset my stats through my battery widget but not until weeks after I had the battery. I don't think I was rooted when I first bought it.
The first day I got it I installed it and it showed 66%. I ran it down to 0% which took a pretty long time. Supposedly that's important, several cycles of complete discharge.
I have this docking station that is absolutely worthless as a docking station, but pretty awesome as an external battery charger. I use that to charge it, and sometimes charge it while its in the phone with the stock wall charger. The phone recognizes the %'s pretty close. At first it would drop to 80ish% pretty fast and then be really long between 50-80. Now it seems pretty steady all the way through.
Hmm I never thought to run down a Li-Ion battery due to it not actually having a memory.. Well i got it fully charged and I will see how long it takes to run down.
So I am waiting on how things will go for it lol. Thanks for the help guys. If anyone else has anything else feel free to chip in.
Get the battery monitor widget int he market, go into the settings and make sure you set it for the maH that your battery is, and then try the guide in my signature.
I have had my extended battery for some time now. I don't have BMW and have no history out my battery on my phone. All I did was put the extended battery in, played with the phone like crazy, killed the battery all the way, kept the phone off and charged it until 1 hour after the LED turned green. No issues.
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I'm in the middle of a record setting run right now. This is very unusual. Usually I get 16-24 hours. My battery and EVO seem to have a mind of their own. But when it works it works good. I still struggle with intermittent 'android system' battery problems.

Do you have a 3500mah battery? What is the best way you have found to charge it?

I bought a 3500mah extended battery about a week ago. When I got it, I turned off the evo, inserted the extended battery, and charged the device while powered off for approximately 8 hours. I did this for the first few days. Each subsequent charge, I plug the phone in, power it on, and leave it plugged in for approximately 8-9 hours with the Savaged Zen 2.2.1 SBC CFS kernel.
During this period, I was able to get about 12-14 hours of battery under heavy, almost constant usage. With light usage (texts/twitter/trillian) I was able to pull about 40 hours.
In the last few days however, my battery life has halved. It is still better than the stock battery, but not by much. I am able to pull in around 6 hours of heavy/constant usage before the battery dies. Has anyone experienced this? I've looked at all the tips and tricks and don't see anything that specifically addresses how to charge the bigger battery. I was under the impression that 8 hours with an SBC kernel would fill the battery completely.
Should I be charging the battery with the phone off?
PS: I have tried wiping the battery stats and that has not seemed to help.
I personally use http://electronics.pickegg.com/Elec...-for-T7373-Touch-Pro2-6341706512982200005.JPG
It's SOOO MUCH BETTER on the battery! Plus there's never a chance you'll pull it off the charger before it is finished. Just swap between your normal battery and the 3500 back and fourth for the best results. But everyone knows that our phones won't charge the batteries correctly.
A simple search for t7373 battery charger will take you to places to buy this at. DO NOT OVERPAY FOR IT! I got mine in a 20 buck package. got 2 batteries, this thing, 2 screen covers, case, and so on. 3 clear cases. lol bunch of stuff. on ebay.
GreenTea420 said:
I bought a 3500mah extended battery about a week ago. When I got it, I turned off the evo, inserted the extended battery, and charged the device while powered off for approximately 8 hours. I did this for the first few days. Each subsequent charge, I plug the phone in, power it on, and leave it plugged in for approximately 8-9 hours with the Savaged Zen 2.2.1 SBC CFS kernel.
During this period, I was able to get about 12-14 hours of battery under heavy, almost constant usage. With light usage (texts/twitter/trillian) I was able to pull about 40 hours.
In the last few days however, my battery life has halved. It is still better than the stock battery, but not by much. I am able to pull in around 6 hours of heavy/constant usage before the battery dies. Has anyone experienced this? I've looked at all the tips and tricks and don't see anything that specifically addresses how to charge the bigger battery. I was under the impression that 8 hours with an SBC kernel would fill the battery completely.
Should I be charging the battery with the phone off?
PS: I have tried wiping the battery stats and that has not seemed to help.
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try reconditioning the battery, charge until full(green light) the unplug and after light goes out plug it in again, repete until you get the orange charging light then let it charge fully(green charged lite). see if that helps
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try reconditioning the battery, charge until full(green light) the unplug and after light goes out plug it in again, repete until you get the orange charging light then let it charge fully(green charged lite). see if that helps
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but all that's doing is overcharging it. The average person doesn't have that much time to waste. lol plus the only way it works is if you do it on a daily basis. However, the funny thing is HTC/Sprint actually posted that as an official fix. HAHAHA! It's really just a trick to get the not so smart people to do it and shut up. lol! It's not conditioning it. wait until battery is almost empty then swap battery and let it charge outside of phone. then put back in. ;-)
edit. just remembered. wasn't people having issues fully charging these 3500s? I'm almost sure they were. yeah. the only way to charge them fully is actually outside the unit! I COMPLETELY forgot about that! Did HTC ever fix that issue? I could be wrong. so need an expert in here to give a second opinion. thanks lol
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but all that's doing is overcharging it. The average person doesn't have that much time to waste. lol plus the only way it works is if you do it on a daily basis. However, the funny thing is HTC/Sprint actually posted that as an official fix. HAHAHA! It's really just a trick to get the not so smart people to do it and shut up. lol! It's not conditioning it. wait until battery is almost empty then swap battery and let it charge outside of phone. then put back in. ;-)
edit. just remembered. wasn't people having issues fully charging these 3500s? I'm almost sure they were. yeah. the only way to charge them fully is actually outside the unit! I COMPLETELY forgot about that! Did HTC ever fix that issue? I could be wrong. so need an expert in here to give a second opinion. thanks lol
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so you think its better to carry and swap out batteries and reboot everytime plus buy an extra charger. no thanks, i'll do the not for smart people every once in awhile.
edit: dont know havent heard about any issues not fully charging 3500, or if it is better to use stand alone battery charger
charge it however you like.. I see no difference in results no matter how you do it.. the results in life completely depends on use and how much stuff you have on.. Getting in the habit of turning data off and sync, bluetooth, gps etc is the best way to extend battery life. Charging it full is full.. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to "recondition" it.. when you fill something up.. how does it get "more full" than full.. logic tells you it's complete bs.. unless you want to believe it then I'm not here to convince you of what is and isn't.. Use the system settings toggles to turn your stuff off.. data and sync are the biggest killers.. You'll still get calls and messages.. just turn it on when you actually want to use your browser.. sittin in your pocket is just wasting precious battery..
Thanks for the input. I'm going to hold off on buying a charger and attempt to charge it as suggested in a couple of these posts. If that doesn't work, I'll invest in the external charger and report back.
GreenTea, any updates on this? I just bought the 3500 and an external charger (why not for $5 a piece). I'm wondering if there's any issues charging inside the phone and whether or not I need to wipe batt stats.
I know this is an old issue, but maybe I can add some input:
I have a Seidio 3500mAh battery I use for my Evo 4G (used it in the my HTC Hero first, then in my Evo 4G). I can get roughly four to five days with little use out of the battery (I'm using CM7.1 right now)...until I turn on 4G.
Once I turn on 4G, I may get eight to ten hours out of it with light use.
What you may want to do is keep the 4G radio off until you need it...this hopefully will improve battery performance.
GreenTea420 said:
I bought a 3500mah extended battery about a week ago. When I got it, I turned off the evo, inserted the extended battery, and charged the device while powered off for approximately 8 hours. I did this for the first few days. Each subsequent charge, I plug the phone in, power it on, and leave it plugged in for approximately 8-9 hours with the Savaged Zen 2.2.1 SBC CFS kernel.
During this period, I was able to get about 12-14 hours of battery under heavy, almost constant usage. With light usage (texts/twitter/trillian) I was able to pull about 40 hours.
In the last few days however, my battery life has halved. It is still better than the stock battery, but not by much. I am able to pull in around 6 hours of heavy/constant usage before the battery dies. Has anyone experienced this? I've looked at all the tips and tricks and don't see anything that specifically addresses how to charge the bigger battery. I was under the impression that 8 hours with an SBC kernel would fill the battery completely.
Should I be charging the battery with the phone off?
PS: I have tried wiping the battery stats and that has not seemed to help.
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You need to download BATTERY MONITOR WIDGET. Put the widget on your home screen. Monitor voltage while charging. Full is 4200mV. Anything less is not full. Recently, i can not get it past 4180mV. Sometimes, I charge overnight with phone off, then plug into my car charger going to work with phone on to try and top it off.
Calibration nor conditioning will fix the issue. It is the kernels and they just are not right yet for gingerbread.
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With moderate to heavy use I'll be able to pull in 12-15 hours on a full charge with my 3500 mah non-seido battery. Light usage will net me about 40-48 hours. SBC seems to give a couple more hours if the phone is plugged in and turned on during charging. I live in an area without 4G, so I cannot respond to 4G battery use. I've heard it is a battery killer though.

Please someone make an SBC Sense Kernel for Synergy

Please, please, please. SBC kernel for Synergy?
I am tired of my 3500 battery running out after 18 hours, I was getting 60 hours from Warm 2.2 RLS5.
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SBC wont give you better battery usage, just an extra 10% when you wake up. I highly doubt your 18 will turn into 60 just because of SBC alone.
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Warm 2.2 was a great rom.that rom gave me the best battery life I have ever had except for my current setup...I am on wifi once I got home but 8 fairly rough hours on 3g. The wake time shows I used it.
I did get better life w froyo though. I could get 40+ hours pretty regularly and half would be 3g. If I stayed on wifi I am sure I could get 60+ currently.
Lithid, with all due respect, but I am on Synergy. When I charge my phone until the green light comes on, i unplug it and it drops from 100% to 80% in about an hour.
So I tested some things out. I ran battery clear dead and recharged, phone on, and then when the light turned green, I rebooted it and when it booted back up, battery monitor widget said I was at 79%.
Ran dead again about 12 hours. Recharged, phone off, until light turned green and turned on phone. BMW said 78%.
I am not very smart, but both times it took 2 hours exactly to recharge until light turned green. That is telling me that the phone has a timer, or shuts down charge at a certain voltage. It also tells me that it takes the same amount of time to charge my 3500 battery as my old stock 1500???. I call BS!
With SBC, it took 3 hours to fully charge my 1500, and almost 6 to charge my 3500. So what you stated above, makes no freaking sense to my stupid arse. Please re explain to me again how I was not getting 3 days of use before and only about 17 hours today with screen on time of 3 hours today....
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I don't know what you guys are doing to get such terrible battery life. I get 19-20 hours with moderate use out of the stock 1500 battery.
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So this morning, I unplugged at 9am from charger. I turned off everything that makes an EVO an EVO, like Background data, and sync so that it does not update any fb or email or anything without me doing it. I have had WiFi on since then and I have it set in Spare Parts to never while plugged so it will shut down when the screen is off. I also turned off Mobile network always on. so I now have a NON EVO, EVO. And at 5 hours, I have 71% battery left. That will get me to to about 17 hours of drain time. so far today I have 2 hours online with it. The 17 hours is purely estimate as I may go 5 hours later without picking it up. so I may be more like 24 hours on this charge cycle.
That is no where near what I was getting with SBC and RLS5 of 2.2. With Synergy, I am not expecting the same run time as before, but with SBC, I would definately be getting WAY MORE life out of battery. 2 days at least.
All I am saying is the the EVO without SBC, DOES NOT fully charge my 3500mA battery. PERIOD!
eggsack said:
So this morning, I unplugged at 9am from charger. I turned off everything that makes an EVO an EVO, like Background data, and sync so that it does not update any fb or email or anything without me doing it. I have had WiFi on since then and I have it set in Spare Parts to never while plugged so it will shut down when the screen is off. I also turned off Mobile network always on. so I now have a NON EVO, EVO. And at 5 hours, I have 71% battery left. That will get me to to about 17 hours of drain time. so far today I have 2 hours online with it. The 17 hours is purely estimate as I may go 5 hours later without picking it up. so I may be more like 24 hours on this charge cycle.
That is no where near what I was getting with SBC and RLS5 of 2.2. With Synergy, I am not expecting the same run time as before, but with SBC, I would definately be getting WAY MORE life out of battery. 2 days at least.
All I am saying is the the EVO without SBC, DOES NOT fully charge my 3500mA battery. PERIOD!
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I agree 100%. I wont use any sense 3.0. Gb rom until an SBC kernal is available. I myself wouldn't use it but my gf would. I'm a cm7 person and only use SBC cause I need every drop of battery life possible. Without SBC I get that initial drain and I wont sacrifice that. For me its safe and a must have and people can disagree with me all they want on the validity of SBC but I believe in it and won't change my mind. If I ever get time I might throw my hand in to creating a kernal but right now I'm working on my apps new release
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Nothing wrong with SBC and s reputable replacement battery. Mine is a Seidio and I used SBC for 4 months on 2.2. No problems! Well except only charging every 3 days unlike everyday now.
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update from Today on battery life. I am not at 13h 48min since unplug and BMW says I have 12% remaining and estimates that dead time is 1h05min.
Display time on is 78% and in time that is 5h 48 min.
Wifi on 9h, 8min. I had to make a trip to the grocery store and pharmacy. Dont know where the other 2 hours of time went that it should have been on, cause I did not turn it off.
Phone idle, 7h 55min
I would consider this a normal day. Only about 10 min of talk time. I got similar to this with Stock ROM and a 2600mA battery from Sprint.
If your battery is registering fully charged at 78%, then you must've wiped battery stats without a full charge or something. Charge it fully & then wipe battery stats. Let it drain completely, then charge it fully again. You should get better battery life after doing so.
I've seen in some people's wiping/flashing directions to wipe battery stats (or everything except the SD card), and that's incorrect. Don't wipe battery stats unless your battery is fully charged. Wiping at less than a full charge, or not following through with the conditioning directions, can mess with your battery life.
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No, I did not wipe battery stats. How would I get fully charged if the phone will not let it fully charge??? That is my complaibt in the first place. It is NOT charging my 3500 battery anywhere near full charge.
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I was not talking about when your phone is fully charged. I'm saying your battery will still drop the same at 100% or 90% you said at 100% you can get 60 hours. But at 90% your only getting 18 hours or whatever... I was saying, doing that math it doesn't make sense. I also use the 3500 battery. No sbc and I charge to 100% not 78%
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SBC wont give you better battery usage, just an extra 10% when you wake up. I highly doubt your 18 will turn into 60 just because of SBC alone.
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Gotta disagree with lithid here as well. If you watch the amps separate from the charging indicator, they keep going at max after the charge hits 100% and don't stop until it gets fully charged. For me the full charge without SBC is about 70% of the actual battery capacity
Lithid, I just ask that if you were to unplug your phone when your led turns green. Then do a full restart, BATTERY MONITOR WIDGET will show you your exact capacity charge and it will not be 100%.
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I also want to add....
Lithid, I totally appreciate your interest and I hope I have not offended you or my posts read like I dont care what you say. I try to be respectful, but sonetimes typing out things come across wrong to the reader. You have done some fantastic work for the EVO and I think you are first class for doing it.
You have also caused me to research things so I can learn what you are talking about so I dont come off as an idiot.
The only thing that is troubling me is that I freakin love Synergy. It drains my battery very quickly compared to 2.2. My hunch was that the stock kernel was the culprit. I tried golden monkey and freedom, same problem. I tried chop suey today. I am at 10%, so it is about the same as others. CSuey is a bunch quicker than the others for performance.
So I guess what it comes down to is this; I would just like to try an SBC kernel for Synergy just a. Couple of charge cycles to see if i still get the same endgame. If I still only get 18 to 24 hours of battery charge, I will be a non SBC guy forever. But no one is doing one, so I can not test it. Solution???
And again, Lithid, thanks for your time on this and keep up the good work! I appreciate it!
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Stock 1500 running synergy godmode. Moderate use checking email placed about 15 calls. Checked xda on the hour. Downloaded apps. Browsed the web and listened to music for a few hours. I think your battery might be going bad. Also if you have a taskkiller you need to get rid of it. I let Android do its thing and have had zero battery problems. I easily get a full day and then some out of my EVO.
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Small update. All these nay sayers about SBC got me thinking, and the one above that said my battery may be going bad, so I am now back in Myns 2.2 RLS5 and SBC#15 kernel. My old setup. I am going to charge my battery FULLY tonight, and in the morning, I am going to see how long my battery lasts on that setup. I was getting 2.5 to 3 days with moderate use.
Then, when it gets dead, I am going to Recharge it fully and then immediately flash Synergy and then see how long of life I get with a SBC charged kernel and the reflash and see if I get more than 18 hours.
If nothing changes, then I will forever shut up about SBC. If I get significantly longer life, then I will pay someone to do an SBC kernel. Fair enough??
Plugged the phone in to charge at 1:05am today. Light turned green after 3 hrs 15 min. It is still not fully charged and that is at 9 hours 15 minutes. It is almost there. Right now it is showing 22mA charging and dropping. Goal is 0, which means full charge using SBC. I do realize that SBC also charges the battery at a slower rate, but that in itself cannot explain how the phone said the battery was FULLY charged after 3 hours.
So as soon as it gets to 0, I will reboot into recovery, wipe batt stats, then reboot into 2.2 RLS5 and unplug. Then I will run completely down until phone ****s off, then recharge once again using the SBC kernel, once fully charged, I will reboot into recovery, restore my Nandroid of Synergy RLS1 and see how long batt lasts on SBC charge. Then when I run that completely dead, recharge using Stock kernel from synergy and see what happens.
Screw SBC, I'd be happy with HDMw1n, 2-way call recording, and standard speed enhancements ALL in one, stable kernel. We don't have that yet.
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Screw SBC, I'd be happy with HDMw1n, 2-way call recording, and standard speed enhancements ALL in one, stable kernel. We don't have that yet.
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This is an SBC thread not a lets ***** about HDMI and 2 way recording which are both out there already thread.
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T989 Battery Spazzing Out

My phone just started to do this about a week ago.
I tried reflashing, wiping cache/data, factory reset- nothing.
Whenever I charge, it will either charge significantly slow, or say charging but the percentage just goes down as if it wasn't even charging in the first place.
So I powered off for the entire night, (8-9 hours) and it will say fully charged. And I keep it connected to the charger but when I take a look at the phone again about 15 min later it reads 83% battery and charging.
I was really annoyed so I just left my phone on the charger again while I took a power nap (1-2 Hours) and after that I take a look and now it reads 68%.
The other day I saw it was fully charged so I took it off the charger and went on with my day. After, not even about 8 hours, it was already 10%.
It's like it only charges normally when the phone is shut off. Do I just need to replace the battery? Or is it something with the phone that drains the battery so quickly? I've already ordered a replacement extended battery off of Amazon just in case.
Most likely your battery. Go into battery stats and see whats apps are having high usage. Or download Gsam.
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Im pretty sure its the battery now, the stats are normal and it doesn't seem like one process is hogging all the cpu. Can't wait for my extended battery next week, i cant last a week more with this annoying battery issue. Any suggestions for now?
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Im pretty sure its the battery now, the stats are normal and it doesn't seem like one process is hogging all the cpu. Can't wait for my extended battery next week, i cant last a week more with this annoying battery issue. Any suggestions for now?
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Keep it off unless you really need it? Also are u rooted or on stock?
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