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Hey guys, as the title really!
I've been a long term user of Android Revolution (flashed the day I got my Desire HD!) but I've recently switched to Cyanogen 7 to check it out, and I'm pretty impressed.
Mike1986 has just released 5.1.10 which looks awesome, I'm just wondering if anyone has any comparisons between the two ROMS in term of speed/battery life?
Thanks!
I have tried a few sense roms(including AR) and cyanogenmod pretty much beats them in every aspect(speed, battery life, general usability)...
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If you want the stock HTC Sense look and feel then go with Android Revolution. However if you want Android as Google intended then use Cyanogenmod.
Personally i liked both ROM's but i just couldn't give up Sense in the end.
I'm guessing they're both similar in terms of optimisation and performance tweaks? ARHD boasts a massive amount of tweaks in their thread but I can't seem to find much regarding C7.
AR is fast and the life span of the battery is quit good but the gps signal was very poor compare to CM7 is really good on detecting gps signal. So far was not much comment except the gps problem from the sense rom.
I really like CyanogenMod more even though I love some of the functions on Sense like the clock and usb connection features eg: internet passthrough.
I tried out Android Revolution HD but in the end I went back to CyanogenMod. ARHD is just not as fast because of Sense and it takes a lot longer to boot up too.
I am using ARHD and i am very impressed, by now i dont have any intention to change it
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dunks1 said:
I'm guessing they're both similar in terms of optimisation and performance tweaks? ARHD boasts a massive amount of tweaks in their thread but I can't seem to find much regarding C7.
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If you wanted to read over the tweaks list for CM7 you'd have to invest a couple of hours of your time! While ARHD has plenty of tweaks, these are essential modifications of the stock ROM. CM7 is built from the ground up and has low level code modifications from some very bright minds indeed. From kernel and driver tweaks to the ARM optimisations, CM7 is always a step ahead in this respect.
Regards.
I don't use rosie (or any of the sense widgets therefore) but do like some of the sense apps - people, dialer, calendar etc are all better than stock. Does cyanogen keep these?
I used ARHD no sense for a while (tested CM 6 and a few others) but since CM7 was released I will stick to it. Simply the best and fastest rom in my opinion.
Latest CM7 Nightly + LordMod UE UUV + 26.09.04.11 Radio seems to be the best combination for my DHD
In my opinion Android Revolution is better, because it looks better for me.
Tamen said:
I don't use rosie (or any of the sense widgets therefore) but do like some of the sense apps - people, dialer, calendar etc are all better than stock. Does cyanogen keep these?
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no, it does not, but you can still use ARHD with the no-sense mod which keeps those "sense" apps
the only thing i like about sense rom is the frienstream and the camera.
Thanks for the replies guys!
I've changed back to CM7 with a custom kernel (LorDModUE V4.0 BFSv404), I can't see me changing this for a while!
I really like ARHD no-Sense. So, if Cyanogen will be released and be cool than ARHD - maybe will be migrated..
chardd23 said:
the only thing i like about sense rom is the frienstream and the camera.
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Might be a stupid question but, you can't use the camera if you're not running sense???
Zbor said:
Might be a stupid question but, you can't use the camera if you're not running sense???
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You can't use the Sense camera app, you generally get the stock Android one instead. Some people prefer HTC's version, I don't use either so I can't really comment.
//Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk, all errors entirely intentional.
To be honest, ARHD and CM7 both are good ROM, but CM7 have one big issue that can't solve until now.. the wired headset not working...
Speed wise, both not much different.
ARHD look much better...
Shinobee said:
To be honest, ARHD and CM7 both are good ROM, but CM7 have one big issue that can't solve until now.. the wired headset not working...
Speed wise, both not much different.
ARHD look much better...
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WHAT!?!?!?! LOL!!! Dude, headset is working perfectly! I'm using it almost every day. The thing is that you have to configure your phone properly. It can easily be messed up by music apps.
Shinobee and Dod6 - you can configure CM7 to make it look the way you want. If you put a little work into it, the UI may look waaay better that Sense and won't require that much from the phone.
Just flashed arhd the other day and thought it was very nice, I've moved onto virtuous unity 2.39 now and I must say that I find it much smoother and more responsive. I'm probably gonna stick with this for a while but I've decided that my next ROM must be non sense so add to broaden my horizons, likely to be cyanogen 7 as a first choice.
Hi all,
The Dev Forum seems to be pretty abundant with Sense-based ROMs at the moment, and I guess that's to be expected with 3.0 being everyone's new(ish) favourite thing, but not all of us are Sense fans and I just wanted to get people's opinions on the current state of play concerning AOSP ROMs and their latest versions, especially around battery life.
What have you used / are you using, and how do the current suite of AOSP ROMs compare with each other in terms of battery life (but other stuff as well)?
I'd love to hear about people's recent experiences.
Thanks.
This rom is the best aosp rom I've used yet. Blazing fast and amazing battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070501
I tried Gingerbeast, HydrogenMod, Hikari, CyanogenMod and Ginger S and I can't seem to get any of them to be 100% fully functional. I've had a problem with bluetooth not working, not being able to import contacts, the home button stops working, com.android.phone force closing, etc. I've full wiped, reinstalled, fixed permissions, etc, but I can't get any AOSP rom to work. Surely there must be a leak of the AOSP rom that HTC use before adding Sense and other HTC addons?
While AOSP roms are light wight and seem fast they will never compare to roms built off of sense roms. Why you ask. Look at the roms like CM7 and other AOSP roms, they have to use open source drivers that dont make full use of the hardware. Like wifi and blue tooth. Both lose 25% strength because of the Open Source drivers instead of using the drivers built for the Phone like the closed source HTC drivers.
Umm, apologies if I've confused myself out of sheer ignorance, but can't you just flash a custom kernel like Lordmod's excellent one, which DOES contain official DHD phone drivers?
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Umm, apologies if I've confused myself out of sheer ignorance, but can't you just flash a custom kernel like Lordmod's excellent one, which DOES contain official DHD phone drivers?
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Sense based kernels will not work on an AOSP roms
LM is a aosp kernel.
i don't see any problems with pretty much all of the AOSP kernels i have used (Most CM based ones, quite a few Miui Ones, and the default CM7). The Wifi and BT work, gaming is pretty good, and its also much less laggy (Sense based roms occasionally freeze for no reason. Its annoying with music playing)
The only thing i dislike about AOSP roms is the camera which doesnt have touch to focus video recording, but pretty much every other sense feature can be replaced by a free, custom app (LauncherPro is much better than rosie 3.0/.5, custom video players play more movies, etc.)
you could always flash a sense/rosie/app remover on top of a sense based rom
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LM is a aosp kernel.
i don't see any problems with pretty much all of the AOSP kernels i have used (Most CM based ones, quite a few Miui Ones, and the default CM7). The Wifi and BT work, gaming is pretty good, and its also much less laggy (Sense based roms occasionally freeze for no reason. Its annoying with music playing)
The only thing i dislike about AOSP roms is the camera which doesnt have touch to focus video recording, but pretty much every other sense feature can be replaced by a free, custom app (LauncherPro is much better than rosie 3.0/.5, custom video players play more movies, etc.)
you could always flash a sense/rosie/app remover on top of a sense based rom
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Unless you needed to connect to a spicific type of network or need BT to work a certain way you wouldn't notice it.
zelendel said:
While AOSP roms are light wight and seem fast they will never compare to roms built off of sense roms. Why you ask. Look at the roms like CM7 and other AOSP roms, they have to use open source drivers that dont make full use of the hardware. Like wifi and blue tooth. Both lose 25% strength because of the Open Source drivers instead of using the drivers built for the Phone like the closed source HTC drivers.
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Yeah, not sure about that 25% statement, mate.
I've been running CM7 Nightlies or CM-based ROMS for a while now and, if anything, I've noticed a significant improvement in connectivity (in general) from what I previously experienced on Sense ROMs. I'm sure that Lord Clockan's excellent kernels have a lot to do with it, but anyway...
I suppose everyone's experience is different.
Hy,
I am also a HUGE fan of AOSP. Since I bought my DHD it had Sense for one day because I had no time to flash. I also spent some time comparing Sense vs. AOSP Roms, and can say that AOSP has better performance on my DHD then Sense and always used them with the kernel they come with.
Aosp all the way. My recommended roms:
Oxygen Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348425
TalonRom:
http://code.google.com/p/talon-rom/
OMFGB:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/6052-aospcustom-gingerbreadomfgb-131-nightlies/
OMGB:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/7923-rompure-gingerbreadomgb-123237/
All are my personal favorites.
Regards
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All are my personal favorites.
Regards
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Hmm Not sure that makes sense!
I dont know too much about it, but I heard it makes sound quality much better. Can someone tell me more about it? and is it available for the DINC 2?
That's Samsung technology, Galaxy S stuff. No-go on porting it to different platforms, as far as I know anyway.
If you want to improve the sound quality in your voice calls, try flashing a modified kernel. Just make sure you use a sense kernel for sense ROMs, and AOSP kernels for AOSP ROMs. I use JDKernel's 9/19/11 beta, he has a downloader on the market. Also you might check out Tiamat, he makes a good AOSP kernel. For Sense kernels, check out this link.
Aside from themes and customization what are the differences? What should I expect using them ?
I'm on ARHD right now and been itching to flash to Viper rom but I'm leaving for a trip so I can't afford to switch roms in between.
If ARHD is working fine for you right now, then wait till you get back. I did the stupid mistake of flashing CM10 before a trip and it kinda made things really difficult. The camera was all messed up, GPS was acting up and battery life was quite unpredictable, so I couldn’t rely on my phone when I really needed it.
However, since Viper is also a sense ROM you wouldn’t notice that much of a difference, but still you never know what kind of trouble you might run into....
I'm relatively new to the forums so been reading up on everything, I just flashed ARHD today and it would be insane to switch immediately without giving it a try What happened to leedroid btw? Seems he's been inactive at the HOX forums, I really love his work on the Desire from way back.
I have been using the ViperX Rom now for awhile and besides the sheer Customisation of the ROMs I don't see any much difference (last ARHD Rom I used was 7.1)
But I must say that it is frikin awesome specially the whole auto software update so dont really have to manually flash your phone with the latest ROM/build each time
thats my 5c
ARHD is a stock rom tweaked by Mike to give you the better performance and great battery life. He removes all unwanted crapware and installs apps that are useful. there are a few mods as well that are made for his rom as well...just check Jotha's mods in his opening page of the thread..
Viper X is a stock rom as well but with a lot of tweaks by that team and very customizable. so many icon packs so many statusbar themes that you will have your lips drooling...all honesty both are great roms but for me ARHD gives me that extra edge cause you get great support, the dev is awesome and pure and simple it is one great freaking rom
Another Viper user here, and can't recommend it enough, not too much difference between them all, just personal choice, and i like running "de sensed". but i would also agree with previous advice in leave it until you return from your break, i have settled on Viper as my daily driver having tried others over the last few months (ARHD, Insertcoin, Leedroid, Jellybean)
Leedroid is having personal issues that's why there is no activity on the rom.
From my experience with ROMs based on stock firmware, they are all pretty much the same performance and battery wise. The difference comes in customization and so forth.
You might want to stay with ARHD because viper x is not running on the newest sense 4.1
Personally I prefer Viper rom purely just becuase of the amount of customizations which are not available on ARHD. If you wish to stay with a rom which has not strayed too far from stock, but has better performance then perhaps stay with ARHD. If you like to change the look of the theme and icons etc. I would highly suggest going for Viper which also includes many performance enhancements.
Either way they are both good.
Trying not to go off subject, you do however have many choices of kernels to use. Big differences can come in to play with the path you take. I peronally use faux.
Maybe a little OT but my 2 cents is the both of the two worlds:
I use InsertCoin Rom 7.3.0 and it is just perfect. You get the smoothness of ARHD and some tweaks of Viper roms.
I find EQS really good and just 1 theme has been released.
Ofcourse you can use ARHD and flash yourself all the mods, but it is easier pre-cooked imho
Did you compare the feature list of both rom's?
VIPER
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745176
ARHD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562603
I am using ViperS and satisfy overall
No need to wake up an almost 2 year old thread.
Lets put it back to sleep.
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I've flashed many roms Paranoid Android, CM, etc. They are blazing fast and lag free but the only that is preventing me from staying on those roms is the camera. It seems like the camera drivers for AOSP roms are just not as good as the ones on stock Touchwiz. Am I overthinking this, or are Samsung camera drivers a bit better than those found in custom roms?
I would like to continue running CM 10.1.2 but the camera is really my main gripe. Are there any alternatives or do I have to be stuck on Touchwiz?
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I've flashed many roms Paranoid Android, CM, etc. They are blazing fast and lag free but the only that is preventing me from staying on those roms is the camera. It seems like the camera drivers for AOSP roms are just not as good as the ones on stock Touchwiz. Am I overthinking this, or are Samsung camera drivers a bit better than those found in custom roms?
I would like to continue running CM 10.1.2 but the camera is really my main gripe. Are there any alternatives or do I have to be stuck on Touchwiz?
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I know this is a little old but I thought it's worth quoting as i'm in the same boat. What roms does the camera work best for the gs2?
I added the camera from the Nexus 5 pull and it's leagues better than the AOSP camera. Had a weird issue where I was taking a quick pic and it rebooted but that's only happened once so far