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Hi all,
I'm planning to buy the Play but before I do this I've got a couple of questions regarding the device. Here it goes:
1. Headphones. Is it really true that only SE headphones work with the Play? I've got Sennheiser CX300 regular headphones without any microphone or volume buttons (I dont plan to use any headset, just want my headphones). Would these work with the Play?
2. There are few versions of the Play, namely: r800i/x/a/at. I'd probably be getting r800i because AFAIK this the European version of the Play. Any drawbacks of this version as opposed to the others? Is r800i good for installing unofficial ROMs? Is r800i really the European version?
3. Currently, I've got SGS i9000. I'm worried about the GPU performance of the Play. Is Play's Adreno 205 really a big step-down to i9000's SGX540?
How about the future - do you think that the Play will cope with the requirements of the games that are yet to come? I mean in 1 or 1,5 years?
How about current games? Does Shadowgun or 9mm play smooth?
4. I'm planning to buy a sim unlocked SE Play. Is it going to have an already unlocked bootloader? Or could it be unlocked easily via sonyericsson official website?
Else: What are the chances that I could never be able to unlock the bootloader? I mean free of charge.
5. Are there any serius software or hardware issues with the Play I should know of before buying? I mean issues like e.g.:
some issues with wifi disconnecting, or overheating of the device, or high possibility of the LCD screen becoming out-of-order or bad pixels emerging, or errors in manufacturing the Play that cause it's d-pad buttons to break very easily, or weak slide mechanism.
If anyone responds to this huge and possibly stupid post I'd be really gratefull of your effort. Thanks a lot!
1. No. I use Audio Technica M50 earphones without problems.
2. Not that I know of. I own a R800i myself.
3. I have no idea. I only emulate myself and don't play new games made for the Play. Of course the Samsung has more beef, but it's dual-core also. The Play has less ram also but compensates by being the only phone that has dual channel ddr2 ram at 300Hz instead.
4. It's not unlocked from factory. You can unlock at SE's site yes but it's recommended to do it yourself by following the unlocking guide that is here in the development forum.
5. Not that I know of. Some have reported broken slider, but most of them has beaten them broken themselves while drunk etc. Just be careful and you should have no problem. I have not heard of any other common problems. The device feels fairly high quality even though it's mostly plastic. Specially the gamepad part.
1. all headphones work fine
2. The UK/European version of the phone is fine. You'll need to unlock the bootloader first though. I'm rooted but haven't touched the bootloader, once I've "frozen" all the standard tat I don't like, and use link2sd I find it great
3. Nova 2, Dungeon Hunter2 & Dead Space run great - you can always overclock if you unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernel
4. the bootloader will be locked and the phone will not be rooted. Rooting only takes 5 to 10 mins (2.3.4). I haven't unlocked the bootloader and don't intend to - but I believe sony will give you the info for your specific phone.
5. no issues here - although only had it about 1 month. some people have reported issues when using a compass app. I don't find the dual analog nubs to be all that good - prefer the dpad
1) Only unofficial headphones with a mic don't work. I get around this by using a SE Blootooth receiver with my beats headphones.
2) the R800i is probably the best and most supported model.
3) Adreno 205 beats the PowerVR GPU in the SGS hands down Infact a comparison between adreno 205 and Tegra II is more applicable. Not only that with our dual channel DDR2 ram like the SGS II, gaming is even better than other Adreno 205 devices like the Desire HD.
4) If you buy a sim unlocked device you can unlock the bootloader at the sony unlock site.
5) The device is well built. And the pad is even better built. The wifi is not the greatest but the GPS is amazing and frequent software updates from sony (4 or 5 this year already) keeps the device in shape.
Not to forget Sony Ericsson has recently officially stated that we get Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) to our phones!
1) I use my dre beats and the supplied sony headphone wit hthe phone ; only problem i've found is that the cable with control talk for dr dre comes up as not supported - this still allows me to listen to music but I cant skip tracks etc with control talk.
2)No limitations.
3)The xperia play beats the sgs due to reasons already listed.
4)If its sim unlocked when you buy it ; there wont be a locked bootloader.
5)No there are not.
Really big thank you for your answers. I'm pretty convinced by now to by the Play.
One more thing though:
Has anyone played some top-notch 3d games, like shadowgun or 9mm? Do they play very smooth (without any overclocking)?
daerragh said:
Really big thank you for your answers. I'm pretty convinced by now to by the Play.
One more thing though:
Has anyone played some top-notch 3d games, like shadowgun or 9mm? Do they play very smooth (without any overclocking)?
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Yep both play great at stock clockspeed. so do other top notch 3D games like riptide, dead space and quake 3 arena
Ok, thanks. It's good to hear that
What about the screen? Is it glass or plastic. Does it get scratched easily?
daerragh said:
Ok, thanks. It's good to hear that
What about the screen? Is it glass or plastic. Does it get scratched easily?
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The screen is mineral glass, but every play comes with a factory fitted shatter proof screen protector. The screen protector is easly scratched but many people have removed it and said the mineral glass underneath is solid and quite hard to scratch
is this phone any good? how does it fare up against the iphone 4?
Android can do everything the iPhone 4 can't do, and the Xperia play has a larger screen, Gamepad, and what not?
thanks but i would prefer a more in-depth answer as to why and also if its a good phone or not (and why). thanks
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i would prefer a more in-depth answer as to why and also if its a good phone or not (and why). thanks
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Well I have a video review,
...a "How is it after 2 months?" session to see if it's quality stays consistent,
...as well as a COMPLETE written review.
http://verytechnical.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-4g-review/
That in-depth enough for ya?
EDIT: Long story short, you can find a handheld gaming system that handles tactile, portable gaming nicely, but they always fall short for... pretty much all of those non-game functions users over 14 need. You can find a lot of smartphones that handle all those necessities, but the touch controls are horrid, and every other physical controller option violates the "fearsome foursome" of external controller flaws; including that none of them aside from the Xperia PLAY have a lot of compatible games - SixAxis, ZeeMote, iControlPad, Gametel, BGP100...
...all of them fall flat on their ass when you start looking for something more than old emulated stuff. Xperia PLAY kicks ass as an emulator, but it's the only truly versatile smartphone with physical controls with the matching support of over 200 non-emulated games. There's no other device on the market that can hold the claim that well.
This is all from someone who came from 4th Gen idevices BTW. In comparison, its beat iOS at everything from media to games
Okay hardware wise they're almost the same.
1ghz CPU
512mb ram
5mp camera.
Adreno205 gpu to the sgx535
Apps will run similarly.
Okay better with iPhone :
The gorgeous hi res retina screen.
The app store
Smooth ui
Availability of apps.
Music, even though people might say otherwise.
Internal space.
Gyroscope
Better with xplay:
4 inch screen.
The ps controls
The exclusive apps
The Dlna
The PRICE
Audio feedback (xloud)
Image quality (with bravia engine )
The modding possibilities
WiFi hotspot (tethering)
A good forum
Price of apps.
Upgradeable memory (up to god knows how much with sdxc) lets say 64
Common peripherals ,ie Micro USB. So they're cheap if you misplace your charger etc.
Upcoming ics upgrade .
Upcoming PlayStation suite .
Current ps1 games .
Emulator possibilities.
Both are very good devices but unless if you were like me, a gamer, go for the iPhone .
The bads:
IPhone :
Heavily overpriced.
Not very revolutionary .
Overhyped apple product.(internals are the same as 3gs )
Relatively heavy.
Overshadowed by 4s .(last year's product)
Xplay:
Depreciation (not if you bought for like a £100)
Android ui (sorry guys spoilt by windows phone xD)
Weight 169 grams (if you're not a gamer you don't need this weight)
Lacklustre( maybe a bit overhyped too - so far but the upcoming months look really good imho)
But I still love my xplay, as I loved my omnia 7. May I recommend the ray if youre not into gaming and would like a good device .
My gf has a 4s and honestly, if you're gonna buy a new iPhone 4 save a bit more and buy the 4s instead .
Hope that helped.
Cheers
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Since buying an Xperia PLAY a couple of months ago, my old iPhone 4 hasn't seen the light of day and has been hiding in my draw since.
When I hold and use my PLAY, I know I'm holding a phone that was made especially for me. It's got:
- A nicely sized screen.
- Probably the best pair of speakers I've ever seen on a phone.
- Good battery life if treated well.
- That "WOW!" factor.
- 720p recording now.
- Great emulation performance.
- Can play pretty much all PS1 games using the likes of psxperia, FPSE and psx4droid.
- A large number of exclusive games.
- Is moddable and is a dream to run after rooting device.
I won't be buying another phone from here on unless it's a Sony gaming device running on Android.
I just love it when family come over in the holidays rocking up with their iPhone 4 and 4S thinking they have the best phone on the market. While they're talking to Siri asking for the weather, I'm having good fun playing Crash Bash with psxperia with a real game pad and at full speed.
KindaUndisputed said:
is this phone any good? how does it fare up against the iphone 4?
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The iPhone whether 4 or 3 or 6 is garbage , CNET and other hi-tech media mention it , IOS is the less customizable less user friendly .... I could go on. Best to actually compare it to a droid razr or galaxy s2 than any iPhone lol.
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amansth said:
Android ui (sorry guys spoilt by windows phone xD)
But I still love my xplay, as I loved my omnia 7.
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Have you tried out Launcher7 on the XPlay... Gives you that WP7 look and feel (at least for the launcher)... Ubermusic gives you a zune-style music player...
The biggest draw of any Android device over any of the other major platforms is customization. If you put the time and energy into it you can make Android do anything you want it to.
Plus this phone can take a bit of a drop and still be good the i phone will just shatter
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Weudel said:
Have you tried out Launcher7 on the XPlay... Gives you that WP7 look and feel (at least for the launcher)... Ubermusic gives you a zune-style music player...
The biggest draw of any Android device over any of the other major platforms is customization. If you put the time and energy into it you can make Android do anything you want it to.
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Yeah but launcher 7 isn't as smooth. Nothing is as smooth as windows phone. 7 no offense
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Hmm. Stock launcher on r800i I.e mine is as smooth if not smoother , I used to be a WM5 , 6, 6.5 addict. Including 7 , but ... No WM7's launcher or WP7 ISN'T the king.
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thanks for all the help guys! i would like a good phone but also be able to play games as well (maybe not extensively but i imagine i would use the pad a lot) would you say this is the phone for me or should i get another phone but stick to touchscreen controls? reviews are quite varied, some say its great and others say thats its great only for gaming? could anyone clarify briefly please?
*at the time of posting i have not watched nor read the reviews posted by "TLRtheory" so please excuse me if this was mentioned in one of them*
I recently got an iphone to try since i hear these things organize peoples lives,then got sick of it after i jailbroke it, being on android all these years i felt it was inconvenient just to make ringtones,text tones and with its limited format, then i found out im stuck with that square front page so i gave it to my brother.
then i brought a play, i played it for a few days then placed a listing online to sell it, then pulled out a few days after because i would waste more money getting something better like a Samsung s2
this phone is great it gets used alot more than any cellphone i had, while im waiting around or in public i can just burn some time and play.
At first it wasn't a great phone but then got root uninstaller to disable alot of the services i dont need.
the controls really make this phone worth it, i had sold my psp and missed all those old games, touchscreen controls never went far for me, i couldn't imagine clocking castlevania or many nes roms with it.
There is only one thing this phone can do better than any other: playing games. If you don't see yourself doing that often, you're better off with other options. Buying a Xperia Play is like crossing the Rubicon, as it makes a statement about yourself.
It depends, men are from android and women are from ios.
Well I will be playing games often but I just want to know if it is a good overall PHONE regardless of gaming. I currently have the ZTE blade so maybe that will tell you something..
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As an overall phone, it's just as good as a Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire S or any mid high end Android device: very fluid movement of the UI, so-so camera... It will be a fairly substantial improvement from the Blade, though that's a fantastic device btw. As a phone, it's bulky, but it has a remarkably good external speaker for music, packs a decent battery and the screen has a nice resolution (higher dpi than the blade).
I came from the Blade and find the Play super. Only cost me €7 more then the Blade too. Its a great phone if you can get it cheap.
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Logseman said:
As an overall phone, it's just as good as a Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire S or any mid high end Android device: very fluid movement of the UI, so-so camera... It will be a fairly substantial improvement from the Blade, though that's a fantastic device btw. As a phone, it's bulky, but it has a remarkably good external speaker for music, packs a decent battery and the screen has a nice resolution (higher dpi than the blade).
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Agree with all that, but the DPI is actually lower. Not noticable mind
So is it significantly better than the blade?
I appreciate the answers by the way
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And what is better about it ?
and what sets it apart from basically being a psp, basically how would you convince someone that it's more than just a psp?
Thanks in advance
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Hey guys iam just here to discuss what i would like to se on the Sony Xperia Play 2.
Screen: 4.3 inch super amoled plus screen 1280x720 pixel resolution.
Give us three buttons like on arc.
Front camera: 2MP with 720p recording
Ear speaker: louder and clearer
Headphone jack: let us use all headphones. Dont wanna break open my beats to get them to work WTF
Stereo speakers: No change already great
Back camera: 8mp full 1080p hd recording led flash
Internal memory: 1.5GB RAM 1GB ROM 16GB flash memory
External memory: up to 64gb sdxc
Battery: Heard about new technology called 'graphene or graphite' i think thats what its called. Takes 10 MINUTES TO CHARGE! and last longer than traditional li-ion and li-plo
Batterys.
Now down to the important stuff!
CPU: quad-core 1.5GHZ
GPU: whatever is the latest and greatest GPU at the time. I dont wanna see an outed brought back to life GPU. Its good but just not cutting the mustard anymore.
I dont mind paying out for a great phone and portable gaming device. What about you leave a reply.
I think sony should take the big step with the xperia play 2 and jump into the next area of phones. Not smartphone a superphone
My opinion as a realist: No, not with such specs.
My opinion as an optimist: YESYESYESYESYESYES!!
But seriously, with playstation certificate again, and such INCREDIBLE specs, this phone would probably cost 3x more than the first Xperia PLAY cost during its launch. You should note, that Xperia PLAY is already not so popular phone (in Poland its launch price was about 1800 pln (google this price to see comparision to your currency) which in Poland is very very high price, especially for a single-core phone), also playstation games on android market are only sold about more than 1000 times so for me this phone was some sort of "phone fail" for Sony Ericsson. But if the price was much lower during launch, the support was way better (I mean FULLY WORKING playstation store) and the phone was dual-core (there were already some phones with dual-core CPU, so it wouldn't be new and also expensive), I'm sure this device would be incredibly competitive for other phones.
Anyway, I'm really proud of my Xperia PLAY, gaming is awesome, idea for joining android with psp was superb and I won't switch it for another phone, until I break it or it will die. I just love it.
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4.2" Screen OLED Cappacitive
1.5 GHZ
1GB RAM
Thinner
R2/L2 added
More PS2/PSP games.
Roughly Cost £500-789 But I'D bUY IT¬1
I'd be happy if Play 2 had the hardware of Xperia S, maybe with a better GPU.
Xperia PLAY S? lol
VictoryStar said:
Xperia PLAY S? lol
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No, this isn't Apple, silly.
Joy
Better joysticks! Not one yoy pad like now, real Working touch joysticks!
The main thing I felt needed improvement with the Play is the horrid screen, which has poor viewing angle and very weak brightness. It has to be AMOLED. Also maybe better built quality.
I don't feel Sony wants to make another one due to the emulation and the recent failure of the PSP GO. I think if they create a device like this they want revenue stream from the softwares. They have to market it as a console and it needs to play all the PSP games, but right now this device seems more like a 'competition' to the PSP than anything (think about it). They can win consumers over if they provide good service through a strong market system and a large game library. And if the games are cheap, people will more likely to buy the games then to pirate.
PS. Quadcore don't mean anything to me except excuse for raising phone prices to $1000 and more bloatwares. I'll go with an Exynos 2ghz dual core myself. More cores doesn't tell the whole story when the Apple A5X beats the Tegra 3 on the graphic side. I still don't believe highest spec should be the main focus for a gaming device like this, as odd as that might sound, that is reserved for their flagship devices, to be paired with carriers like ATT and Verizon, and it simply can't be a gaming device. For a device like this it should be the ecosystem, which there isn't a strong one for the Play compared to PSP. I don't think Sony wants or need to spend money on this niche while their PSP handheld is going strong.
Bacondroid said:
No, this isn't Apple, silly.
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They alrady did it with Arc S.
I just readed this article:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
Does it "sound" that we got screwed by HTC? Does HIgh-end device got suxxy sound compared to he's little brothers or US brothers? How can we fight with that? send HOX to HTC and demand replacement?
Adam
Maybe i will start sell my HOX Int. version...
I think we should react in some other way, like demand device replacement. This is a real JOKE that flagship model got such flaw in audio ...
You wanted a quadcore phone, so you bought a phone with the first quadcore soc, the Tegra3, you could have known before hand what the audio and graphics quality would have been like. There are plenty of reviews and it is well known that except for having 4 cores, the tegra3 is a mediocre performer
Its not about quad core man. This is false advertising which is illegal in EU here. If i see the BEATS logo it should bean that its not only software equalizer (i got HP with beats HW). ANd remember this is high end device i paid for it a lot of $$ and i demand a high quality in every aspect, not a false promises.
godutch said:
You wanted a quadcore phone, so you bought a phone with the first quadcore soc, the Tegra3, you could have known before hand what the audio and graphics quality would have been like. There are plenty of reviews and it is well known that except for having 4 cores, the tegra3 is a mediocre performer
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I hope u don't mean in speed otherwise major lol
anybody lying to himself to think the dual s4 is a better SOC is just misinformed
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
hamdir said:
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
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I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
AdamLange said:
I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
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your joke made my day Glorious :victory: .
Well , just my 1 cent words .
You paid and your not satisfied , you can go to court and claim about false advertisement. Those who are happy with their phone they are enjoying it.
It all depends on what you really want.
I bought my HOX from INDIA... and Beats work gr8 on my headphone but the speaker is way bad.
Overall i am delighted. :angel:
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I hope u don't mean in speed otherwise major lol
anybody lying to himself to think the dual s4 is a better SOC is just misinformed
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
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I think you are misinformed, the tegra3 is only fast in synthetic benchmarks, optimized for multithreading, in the real android world apps are not even optimized for 2 cores, let alone 4
this thread made me laugh
AdamLange said:
I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
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Where does it say BEATS is anything more than a software equalizer?
Exactly. HP laptops have the same software but better speakers, hence the better sound. If it was something like having Sennheiser hardware in it and it was crap THEN I'd be complaining
I have to say the speakers with the hox are completely crap, I bought soundmagic mp-21's (they are pretty cheap) and sound is much better (better than the sgs2), though I am no audiophile
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Its not about quad core man. This is false advertising which is illegal in EU here. If i see the BEATS logo it should bean that its not only software equalizer (i got HP with beats HW). ANd remember this is high end device i paid for it a lot of $$ and i demand a high quality in every aspect, not a false promises.
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Wow, you sure put a lot of weight in one person's opinion. If you read the masthead the article's an editorial, not a review. You or I could submit something totally opposite and it would be published.
First, Beats is s/w sound enhancement so I don't think that's your beef. Second, the DAC is just one component that determines a devices sound quality. Even with a Wolfson DAC the international SGS3 is having issues. Here's 54 pages of discussion on their forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
The author of that article picked one stat out of a dozen to compare. Here's the whole review. The SGS3 is better than the One X but not by much.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p7.php
I got to use a DoCoMo SGS3 for two days about a week ago and it's essentially the same phone as the U.S. versions. In comparing it to the One X it sounded a little brighter but the separation and range on the One X was significantly better. Volume on both was more than adequate and I didn't have to run either at anywhere near max to get decent volume. I compared them using a pair of Shure 530's. I'll say this about the SGS3 I played with, it was horrible at A2DP. It was flat with little range; worse than listening to XM. The One X has better A2DP than any device I've ever used.
Everyone's so freaked out about sound quality based on what they read.. Unless you're listening to lossless audio on headsets that cost several hundred dollars or outputting to home A/V systems that cost thousands all the subtleties being discussed are meaningless. Listening to128kb MP3's on $20 headsets the SGS3(s), One S, and One X will all sound the same.
As for being screwed by HTC and going after them, on what grounds? They never promised anything other than Beats and love it or hate it it's in there.
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I think you are misinformed, the tegra3 is only fast in synthetic benchmarks, optimized for multithreading, in the real android world apps are not even optimized for 2 cores, let alone 4
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sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android getting quad core optimized
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming means anything
than really I give up, u r misinformed
you go get him tiger
Very happy with my One X.Quality is good as well and it saves me from playing with the equalizer to find the perfect setting that is...Beats is just a gimmick all along anyway and nothing special but anyways in regards to the sound i could not be happier...good sound, great performance wise now i have tweaked the hell out of it and well happy bunny
if you are really that freaked out then speak to HTC and get findings what they say to you and then post the outcome...no need to go by what one said over the net..at the end of the day is what users say and counts how they are experiencing things not just by what one person said on a blog site...so if a guy on a blog site said it was good to jump off a cliff does not mean cause he said it it is cool to do
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Wow, you sure put a lot of weight in one person's opinion. If you read the masthead the article's an editorial, not a review. You or I could submit something totally opposite and it would be published.
First, Beats is s/w sound enhancement so I don't think that's your beef. Second, the DAC is just one component that determines a devices sound quality. Even with a Wolfson DAC the international SGS3 is having issues. Here's 54 pages of discussion on their forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
The author of that article picked one state out of a dozen to compare. Here's the whole review. The SGS3 is better than the One X but not by much.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p7.php
I got to use a DoCoMo SGS3 for two days about a week ago and it's essentially the same phone as the U.S. versions. In comparing it to the One X it sounded a little brighter but the separation and range on the One X was significantly better. Volume on both was more than adequate and I didn't have to run either at anywhere near max to get decent volume. I compared them using a pair of Shure 530's. I'll say this about the SGS3 I played with, it was horrible at A2DP. It was flat with little range; worse than listening to XM. The One X has better A2DP than any device I've ever used.
Everyone's so freaked out about sound quality based on what they read.. Unless you're listening to lossless audio on headsets that cost several hundred dollars or outputting to home A/V systems that cost thousands all the subtleties being discussed are meaningless. Listening to128kb MP3's on $20 headsets the SGS3(s), One S, and One X will all sound the same.
As for being screwed by HTC and going after them, on what grounds? They never promised anything other than Beats and love it or hate it it's in there.
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hamdir said:
sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android being quad core optimized
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming
than really I give up, u r misinformed
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people are forgetting as well mate we still do not have an ICS kernel or 3.x.x whatever you want to call it which will double the performance of the phone and basically give it a new lease of life
Beats audio means an equaliser. Get over it.
Fancy pancy pre set equaliser. Nothing more.
Yes that is right. It's a damn phone for God's sake. If you want audiophile quality, buy an MP3 player, load it with lossless files and play it through an amp onto good headphones.
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I think it depends on the type of music you're listening to. Rock and dance music sound much better on one X than on the 4s. Nvidia will be patching up their drivers to cut down the crackles and pops. The thing to remember is that this is a mobile phone, as is the gs3 and 4s, in the hifi world a moderate dac will cost $3000 and a good dac can cost multiple times this amount.
I have my one X connected to my Cyrus setup and it sounds awesome, I also use poweramp to boost the subdued midrange, it is the best sounding phone I have ever heard. My stock testing track is the album version of insomnia by faithless (uses more frequencies than any other track with extremely good separation). I personally think the one X sounds a tad warmer and better than the original cd through my cd8x.
Acoustic and more gentle classical are more difficult to achieve good results. If you listen to rock or electronica of any description the hoc international is amazing.
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hamdir said:
sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
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I saw the benchmarks and like I said the tegra scores high in synthetic benchmarks
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android getting quad core optimized
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It's not android or linux that need optimizing, it's the individual apps and games and that's something which still hasn't even happened under windows! Apperently it is very hard to write multithread apps
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming means anything
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I haven't seen them, I don't game I mainly browse and I can say the one s feels smoother than the one x, although not so much anymore with the 2.x roms
btw I am very satisfied with my hox, I wouldnt trade it for any other phone, except the 32GB hoxl
godutch said:
It's not android or linux that need optimizing, it's the individual apps and games and that's something which still hasn't even happened under windows! Apperently it is very hard to write multithread apps
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not even windows! :laugh: im a CG expert and i can tell you 90% of all my work software as well as chrome browser sips every last bit out of my 8 cores, so what are you talking about, you sound like you are still in 2005? everything is mulithreaded now especially current generation gaming as evident by the PS3 and Xbox360
the entire computing world is going further and further into a multi-core, multi-processor approach
as for my thread it was never about benchmarks but about real world usage, check this post to have a better idea if you have the time
all the performance issues of the One X are blamed on early troubled Tegra3 drivers which are much improved and solved in the NV3.1 kernel source and HTC's own software faults like the battery oriented ondemand governor and bloated sense launcher
we solved them in the 2.x ROMS, ultra rosie patch, NV3.1 based kernels and SetCPU performance profiles
this morning i was messing around with governors and my CPU got stuck in 1400mhz mode, i used it for over an hour until my battery alarmed me and you wont believe how incredible speedy and smooth this thing was
i was the most skeptical and worried about T3 but to be honest it done noting but surprise me
the main issue facing HTC to find to the balance between battery and performance or simply provide the user with performance profiles and let them decide
But don't expect a fraction of this drivers activity on a qualcomm platform, look up NOVA3 gameplay videos on the Sensation XE
Battery life is win on the s4 no one can deny this
Hi All,
I have some questions before I buy this phone.....
- Recording during night I noticed that the framerate drops ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Q501UkZbw
(I dont really understand it)
- How is the loud audio recording? Comparable to the 950 XL ? (4 HAAC Mics) or distortion is present? (who cares about 96000Hz if it cant handle the loud bass)
To be Honest I really want to come back again (I was a proud m7-m8 owner) but the Microsoft 950XL recording feature is just amazing.... Please help me out here..
Thanks