Since getting my Note 2, I've only stuck with Touchwiz-based ROMS, but I really like the stock Android experience and I'm wondering what I'd be losing by moving to an AOSP-based rom.
Obviously, most of the pen features would be gone, but with apps like GMD SPen Control, third-party note taking apps, third-party multi-window and way better launchers (I use Nova now anyways)... what extra stuff do I loose that I might regret? I use the camera a lot on this phone, and even with about 6 third-party camera apps that I've purchased, I still like the Samsung stock camera app.
So before I jump, have any of you moved to a stock rom and regretted it? Why?
Camera isn't as good - slower to focus, burst mode isn't as good.
I rarely use S-pen, so can't really comment on that.
Most keyboards out there don't have a separate number row - there is a hacked version of the Google keyboard on here though.
Can't really think of much else - about the only thing I actually miss is call recording. If you take the plunge, I think SOKP is a very good place to start. Great customisations, good support.
In my experience AOSP roms have a little worse battery life than touchwiz.Elsewise there isn't really much to lose.
If you have a bit of trouble making up your mind you use Devil kernel dual boot.
This way you can have both AOSP 4.4 and Touchwiz 4.3 (no official 4.4 yet).
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Damn. I guess ill be sticking with a touchwiz rom. Looks like I'll loose more than I'll gain. Thanks for the replies.
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yeah I alwasys seem to come back to the TW roms ... I like the pen features alot...
and with custom 4.4 TW rom coming very soon for t0lte (n7105) I will be very happy.
vanilla kitkat roms are very nice otherwise.
I think you also lose HDMI out and you have to format your sdcard to FAT32.
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My uncle is having a galaxy note 2 bought in India. it came with Stock ROM 4.1.1 JB. so my uncle wanted to upgrade to newer version of JB. So i wanted to test a custom ROM. i heard that CM10 DOES NOT HAVE SAMSUNG'S PREMIUM FEATURES LIKE MULTI-WINDOW,S-NOTE etc. so can you tell which ROM i want to install?
I don't like CM because I think the camera is often very buggy and slow.
Also, there are often other issues - look at this list for CM 10.1 on the Galaxy S 3: known issues - look for example at TV Out, how it says "will never work."
CM does not have any Samsung features, no. The camera is awful in my opinion. I'm not even sure you can choose to save pictures to the external card - maybe you can do that nowadays, though I have tried many CM ROMs where you simply could not.
The S-Pen will still work but you will lose the S Note app itself of course, and Air View, gestures, multi window - you will lose all those things. You can still use the pen to draw and write with, there are many S-Note alternatives in the Play Store.
You will lose Samsung features like Smart Stay, the Samsung motion features... All that will be gone.
I definitely urge you to TRY some CyanogenMod based ROMs though and make your own decision. Some people love CM to death and prefer it to Samsung based ROMs. The only way you will know is by trying it out yourself!
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My uncle is having a galaxy note 2 bought in India. it came with Stock ROM 4.1.1 JB. so my uncle wanted to upgrade to newer version of JB. So i wanted to test a custom ROM. i heard that CM10 DOES NOT HAVE SAMSUNG'S PREMIUM FEATURES LIKE MULTI-WINDOW,S-NOTE etc. so can you tell which ROM i want to install?
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Since its ur Uncle`s phone who might not be much comfortable with broken features, i suggest don't look at AOSP ROMS, these roms are only for people like u an me who can keep playing and flsahing roms with a CWM backup handy
I suggest either go for complete stock rom or a custom rom based on stok rom
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I've been looking around and I don't see much here in the way of hybrid ROMs like Project AOSP (Note II ROM with TouchWiz almost completely removed or hidden)
It seems to be pretty either/or. The problem with that is, while CM/Paranoid Android are decent ROMs, they're missing things and still have issues (call volume, Bluetooth issues, etc) and while TouchWiz is fully-functional it's ugly as sin and the menus/settings are nowhere near as good as CM/PA's
Are there any good TW-less ROMs for our Sprint variant of the Note II or am I stuck with the Nova/Apex band-aid that doesn't get rid of TouchWiz' ugly dialer, settings and menus?
edit: NoWizAOSP is close, but it seems Project AOSP is a lot more stock-complete.
Try jellybeans rom, mackentosh ported build 5 from verizon note 2 to our phones. Recently I flashed beanstown's "jellybeans" rom build 17 which is based on the 4.1.2 ota from verizon. Its much more updated and stable and uses aroma to let you choose if you want aosp and or twiz features. Heres a couple pics of my phone..
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Sounds to me, you have more an issue with aesthetics of the stock rom, more than function. You may be better served by looking for rethremed stock apps, such as the dailer. I assume you have issues with some of the bloat, but have enough knowledge to remove it with something like Titanium Backup.
Personally, TouchWiz doesn't bother me. I'm going more to a minimalist approach. I'm down to one home screen page. I just use a few folders for categories of apps I use frequently. No widgets. On another note, I really haven't like all the themes people are using with their roms. Not that they don't look nice; just doesn't appeal to me.
I'd like some input from you guys that have tried both stock-based and CM/AOKP-based roms. What features of stock do you miss if you're on CM/AOKP? Or, what features of CM/AOKP do you miss if you're on stock-based rom?
My last phone (lost it, didn't have insurance) was the HTC One X...I usually prefer the customization potential of CM/AOKP, but for the One X at the time, the battery life on stock-based was FAR superior to CM, so I had to go with stock for work purposes.
What are your experiences with the GS2?
Stock, because every AOSP rom I've tried has horrible call quality and I've tried every trick in the book to fix it. I also like using mass storage instead of mtp, alarm clock and music player from touchwiz. Bluetooth is also more reliable. I do miss the aokp clock, it doesn't work quite right on touchwiz.
The main advantage of aokp is that it's more up to date, but the differences between 4.1 and 4.2 are pretty negligible.
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Stock, because every AOSP rom I've tried has horrible call quality and I've tried every trick in the book to fix it. I also like using mass storage instead of mtp, alarm clock and music player from touchwiz. Bluetooth is also more reliable. I do miss the aokp clock, it doesn't work quite right on touchwiz.
The main advantage of aokp is that it's more up to date, but the differences between 4.1 and 4.2 are pretty negligible.
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I also have a hard time living without theme chooser.
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I'd like some input from you guys that have tried both stock-based and CM/AOKP-based roms. What features of stock do you miss if you're on CM/AOKP? Or, what features of CM/AOKP do you miss if you're on stock-based rom?
My last phone (lost it, didn't have insurance) was the HTC One X...I usually prefer the customization potential of CM/AOKP, but for the One X at the time, the battery life on stock-based was FAR superior to CM, so I had to go with stock for work purposes.
What are your experiences with the GS2?
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AOKP all the way - I think it comes down to one thing for me...Speed... Running other launchers like Nova, the live wallpapers, animations, transitions on AOKP vs TouchWiz is really noticeable. The TW framework seems to slow the whole phone down. The stock dialer/messaging app on TW is slow and clunky compared to AOSP/AOKP. Plus there's the theme chooser, or lack of themes for TW.
I want to like TW, I really do - I tried all the available ROMS with different combos of kernels, and no matter what I do, it just seems clunky in my eyes. I miss SOME TW apps and functionality, but if I bought the S4, I'd go the route of the AOSP version.
Wifi calling, it's the only reason.
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Using Stock Rom JB 4.1.2
JB 4.1.2 stock is very stable, i have try several Custom Roms JB4.2.2 to the point i flash phone almost very day and i wnet back to stock, here are the reason why:
I use Video chat [hang out and talk], this does not work in any JB custom ROM.
USB to PC gives me the correct transfer speed, Custom ROMS either does not work or if it work transfer data very slow or gets stuck
Video share to smart TV i can simply play the video from my phone to my smart TV in Seconds, i have not see this feature to work with Custom ROM w/o getting a 3rd party app.
Battery Life in stock is better than custom ROMS in my case.
these are the main reason i sue stock ROM.
all I've been able to find are aosp, aokp CM based roms...
while I understand the customizability of CM is superb and the vanilla Google platform is great... I've grown accustomed to many touchwiz based features since having both vibrant and now gs3 and want all my gs3/touchwiz motion and swiping goodies to work correctly n would like a good gs4 ported Rom based off of 4.2.2 if one exists.
There aren't any 4.2.2 Touchwiz roms that I know of for our device.
Nope.
You can buy an S4.
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thanks captain obvious. lol
I wonder what the limitation is with bringing an s4 Rom over to the s3?
in any case.... what then are some of your favorite 4.2.2 CM builds out there folks?
also, are there any aokp/aosp rooms with similar dialers and contacts features available on touchwiz like Swype -> to call <- to text contacts etc? any cm bulls keep gs3 specific motion features like calling contacts displayed on screen just by putting phone to the ear etc?
If you want touchwiz features then flash a touchwiz rom. The op of every aosp rom will tell you that.
On another note, my favorite aosp rom is liquid smooth, the latest version gives me amazing battery (over 4 hours screen on time). My favorite TW rom is S3Rx. Has tons of customization and also great battery life.
Edit: the aosp MMS apk has the ear to dial feature you want though. You have to turn that on in the settings.
As far as I know, only one country has got 4.2.2 on the international s3. Itll be a while before we see much for 4.2.2 tw. There's no s4 ports for the same reasons there's no international s3 ports I'm sure. The hardware difference makes porting difficult, and most who can do it will probably be working on things that are more unique. There's probably little that distinguishes 4.1.2 tw from 4.2.2 tw. That's my best guess anyway.
Closest you'll likely find for now is Universe S4.
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thanks fellas, I really appreciate the responses... I think I'll give each of those a test drive across the next few weeks and see if any suit my likes and needs..
oh... I've last question is about flashing cm based roms... the "wipe" is no different from the other roms right? it will leave my sd partition with pictures and personal downloads alone right?
Or will it try to reformat and repartition everything meaning I need to completely back up all onboard memory to the computer?
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oh... I've last question is about flashing cm based roms... the "wipe" is no different from the other rooms right? it will leave my sd partition with pictures and personal downloads alone right?
Or will it try to reformat and repartition everything meaning I need to completely back up all on board memory to the computer?
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Its the same but you should always back up your important files, better safe than sorry
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Switching between TW (4.1.2) and cm/aosp (4.2.2) will mess with the layout of your internal storage. Look up android 4.2 0 folder.
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OP im in the same boat as you.
i like the cheesey TW features. i like the swipe to capture screen, telling my camera to take a picture, and esp. the sbeam touching the back of the phones.
i know NFC works with others but you cant send big files. TW and sbeam transfers huge files no problems.
Thats the only reason why i havnt changed
Currently I'm running NB4 and 4.4.2. I'm running AOSP with Slimkat, and multiple apps to make the S Pen usable again. However, I'm looking to switch to TouchWiz but I'm wondering if there is ROM compatible with my device that has an AOSP theme. Or perhaps the UI is just different enough to not look like TouchWiz. I'm trying to get full S Pen Support just like stock, so those apps need to come with the ROM. Also if it's debloated that would be great too in addition to having 4k recording and a great camera app.
I've looked around in our forums but need some suggestions, this isn't a which is the best thread, it's looking for TouchWiz ROMS that may have different theme options close to AOSP, compatible with my device, and all the features and apps from stock. I was interested in X Note, but apparently it's not supported on our device.
Thank you for your time.
Would this work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676315
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