[Q] CM10 vs Stock ROM Samsung Jellybean - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My uncle is having a galaxy note 2 bought in India. it came with Stock ROM 4.1.1 JB. so my uncle wanted to upgrade to newer version of JB. So i wanted to test a custom ROM. i heard that CM10 DOES NOT HAVE SAMSUNG'S PREMIUM FEATURES LIKE MULTI-WINDOW,S-NOTE etc. so can you tell which ROM i want to install?

I don't like CM because I think the camera is often very buggy and slow.
Also, there are often other issues - look at this list for CM 10.1 on the Galaxy S 3: known issues - look for example at TV Out, how it says "will never work."
CM does not have any Samsung features, no. The camera is awful in my opinion. I'm not even sure you can choose to save pictures to the external card - maybe you can do that nowadays, though I have tried many CM ROMs where you simply could not.
The S-Pen will still work but you will lose the S Note app itself of course, and Air View, gestures, multi window - you will lose all those things. You can still use the pen to draw and write with, there are many S-Note alternatives in the Play Store.
You will lose Samsung features like Smart Stay, the Samsung motion features... All that will be gone.
I definitely urge you to TRY some CyanogenMod based ROMs though and make your own decision. Some people love CM to death and prefer it to Samsung based ROMs. The only way you will know is by trying it out yourself!

superboy123 said:
My uncle is having a galaxy note 2 bought in India. it came with Stock ROM 4.1.1 JB. so my uncle wanted to upgrade to newer version of JB. So i wanted to test a custom ROM. i heard that CM10 DOES NOT HAVE SAMSUNG'S PREMIUM FEATURES LIKE MULTI-WINDOW,S-NOTE etc. so can you tell which ROM i want to install?
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Since its ur Uncle`s phone who might not be much comfortable with broken features, i suggest don't look at AOSP ROMS, these roms are only for people like u an me who can keep playing and flsahing roms with a CWM backup handy
I suggest either go for complete stock rom or a custom rom based on stok rom
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Stock Good or would rom be better?

I really dont know If I want to run complete stock or run a rom. I don't like themes unless it was on a HTC phone with sense , but I like pure stock. Is having a rom will I get better performance cause ive ran AnTuTU & and Quadrant and seem to get better results by a little but I know people say not to go by benchmarks. I just want the best Performance and reliability.
Best performance is still subjective without narrowing in on a certain aspect. In the end it all comes down to your perspective of what works best for you in your usage patterns.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
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You could try ARHD. It's completely stock look, just changes "under the hood", if you will. Or you could remain with Stock, nothing wrong with that.
Well I do see a benchmark increase when using a ROM but im not sure to belaive it or not. I`m not sure ive been going back in foruth for almost a week now:laugh: I just wanna have something to leave on there lol.
I was using Omega but I dont like the its currently using a leaked 4.1.2 instead of offical 4.1.1
Most of the roms in the rom section are all 4.1.2 anyway. So you would have to be on that firmware if you flash a custom rom.
A little bit of my history. I've flashed a lot of custom roms for this phone and I've always found that I always revert back to stock rom. It's the most stable and battery efficient. There's always a problem with some app which I use which doesn't work when I used a custom rom.
So I gave up and just stuck to stock rom.
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AjunNg said:
Most of the roms in the rom section are all 4.1.2 anyway. So you would have to be on that firmware if you flash a custom rom.
A little bit of my history. I've flashed a lot of custom roms for this phone and I've always found that I always revert back to stock rom. It's the most stable and battery efficient. There's always a problem with some app which I use which doesn't work when I used a custom rom.
So I gave up and just stuck to stock rom.
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II
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Sounds like me!!!! Ive used odin a million times since 2010 haha. I got my first android coming from blackberry in 2010 then in dec 2010 I got the first galaxy s and thats when the flashing started but I kept going back to stock. Whats the best base or stock rom? Im currently on the oct germany stock rom.
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Which stock rom would be best?
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I have this device for about 2 weeks. Almost flashing everyday from custom to stock and vice versa. Now I am back at Stock Rom and just enjoying the device.
It's better to be in Stock ROM I think when you use a smartphone like Note 2. Stock ROM comes with proper functions that can utilize the hardware properly, specially that S Pen. It's just 7 day I have this device and I tried few ROM but back to stock now.
I rooted my phone with plans to use a custom rom, but after researching the different roms, though they add cool features, they always seem to break something else on your phone, and it seems like you have to spend a lot of time researching, downloading different fixes, just fiddling around with your phone. So I decided not to go that route and just wait for the official ATT updates.
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Which stock rom would be best?
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Where are two kinds of ROM for Note: one is based on AOSP (open sources) like CM10, and second – on Samsung sources (aka touchwiz or tw). First one is still a little buggy and don’t have proprietary software like exFat, S-Pen and so on.
ROM based on Samsung sources usually as stable as a stock rom and have all Samsung features.
Most popular are Android Revolution HD & Omega. Also a Hypernote is good, if you want clean installation and 280dpi for more screen real estate.
It is also worth looking at MIUI ROM – today it officially released for Note2 and (as I suggest) based on Samsung ROM.
I know what cm10 is and such I ran it on older phones I couldnt bare cm on the note though. I wad meaning which stock rom is better to use under the stock rom thread? Im on th4 germsny one
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I think the Stock rom is a fantastic rom.
I don't root or anything. This phone FLIES by itself, it also offers very good stability. I don't have any crashes whatsoever from the system itself. If it does crash, it's the APP. (ejem ejem... CHROME!) But I don't have issues with the stock ANYTHING. Great phone. I can get more than a full day of use, or 4-5 hours of screen time with regular usage (not downloading torrents or anything like that over 3G. I mean with regular usage, email, chat, FB, some pictures, browsing the web etc etc).
Yea im prob gonna run stock plus root and kernal. But whats the best stock rom to odin? What do you all use?
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What stock rom base is the best? I was thinking of using N7100XXALJ3_N7100OXXALJ4

Will CM-10(or above) ever work fully on the Note II

Alright guys ,I hate TouchWiz and i really want AOSP android on the Note II..its such a beast of a phone and its sad that there is no "Stable" version[IMO] of AOSP (CM-10-PA-AOKP,etc) roms for the phone. It has alot of bugs and to me it is not usable.N. But i just wanna know..will our phones ever be able to run the AOSP roms with a fully functional S - pen...and all the other stuff..?
If you want touchwiz features like multi view, I doubt that will happen, but basic s-pen gestures are available. However unless Samsung stops sucking at releasing sources then cm will never run as well on the note 2 as it does on devices like the nexus range.
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I'd say: just install Nova launcher. It retains most of the goodies, but gives a far better and extensible GUI... You will never need to look for another ROM.
Note'd too from my N7100...

[Q] Any new 4.2.2 touchwiz roms out there?

all I've been able to find are aosp, aokp CM based roms...
while I understand the customizability of CM is superb and the vanilla Google platform is great... I've grown accustomed to many touchwiz based features since having both vibrant and now gs3 and want all my gs3/touchwiz motion and swiping goodies to work correctly n would like a good gs4 ported Rom based off of 4.2.2 if one exists.
There aren't any 4.2.2 Touchwiz roms that I know of for our device.
Nope.
You can buy an S4.
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thanks captain obvious. lol
I wonder what the limitation is with bringing an s4 Rom over to the s3?
in any case.... what then are some of your favorite 4.2.2 CM builds out there folks?
also, are there any aokp/aosp rooms with similar dialers and contacts features available on touchwiz like Swype -> to call <- to text contacts etc? any cm bulls keep gs3 specific motion features like calling contacts displayed on screen just by putting phone to the ear etc?
If you want touchwiz features then flash a touchwiz rom. The op of every aosp rom will tell you that.
On another note, my favorite aosp rom is liquid smooth, the latest version gives me amazing battery (over 4 hours screen on time). My favorite TW rom is S3Rx. Has tons of customization and also great battery life.
Edit: the aosp MMS apk has the ear to dial feature you want though. You have to turn that on in the settings.
As far as I know, only one country has got 4.2.2 on the international s3. Itll be a while before we see much for 4.2.2 tw. There's no s4 ports for the same reasons there's no international s3 ports I'm sure. The hardware difference makes porting difficult, and most who can do it will probably be working on things that are more unique. There's probably little that distinguishes 4.1.2 tw from 4.2.2 tw. That's my best guess anyway.
Closest you'll likely find for now is Universe S4.
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thanks fellas, I really appreciate the responses... I think I'll give each of those a test drive across the next few weeks and see if any suit my likes and needs..
oh... I've last question is about flashing cm based roms... the "wipe" is no different from the other roms right? it will leave my sd partition with pictures and personal downloads alone right?
Or will it try to reformat and repartition everything meaning I need to completely back up all onboard memory to the computer?
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oh... I've last question is about flashing cm based roms... the "wipe" is no different from the other rooms right? it will leave my sd partition with pictures and personal downloads alone right?
Or will it try to reformat and repartition everything meaning I need to completely back up all on board memory to the computer?
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Its the same but you should always back up your important files, better safe than sorry
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Switching between TW (4.1.2) and cm/aosp (4.2.2) will mess with the layout of your internal storage. Look up android 4.2 0 folder.
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OP im in the same boat as you.
i like the cheesey TW features. i like the swipe to capture screen, telling my camera to take a picture, and esp. the sbeam touching the back of the phones.
i know NFC works with others but you cant send big files. TW and sbeam transfers huge files no problems.
Thats the only reason why i havnt changed

[Q] Which Rom should I select?

Im only partially familiar with roms and flashing(used to flash optimus V until I upgraded to a phone with no devs working on it XD ), I was fairly familiar with a cyanogenmod port for my op-V and liked that.
Anyways more specifically im not familiar with any of the devs or their products and was wondering which rom will give me the most preformace and lowest battery drain?
or is it too soon in the nexus 7's life to determine this kinda thing?
should I just stick with stock for now?
also if you have any words of advice or such so a new nexus 7, I'd love to here em.
just flash every rom out there and decide which ever is the "best" for you then stay with it .
What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Options and features.... for example Cyanogenmod has a ton of features that the original ROM doesn't have. Also speed sometimes dictates switching roms. Alot of custom roms are striped down and are faster also.
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What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Not about fixing, but improving
Paranoid Android is fast becoming a personal favorite. Tablet UI is how things ought to be. It's very easy to make a backup image, backup apps, and just start flashing. Now's a good time to start, too, as it's early and the selection is fairly limited. It will only grow from here..
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Not about fixing, but improving
Paranoid Android is fast becoming a personal favorite. Tablet UI is how things ought to be. It's very easy to make a backup image, backup apps, and just start flashing. Now's a good time to start, too, as it's early and the selection is fairly limited. It will only grow from here..
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I agree with this its what I'm using too. I love tablet UI.
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if you like stock and want the ability to choose what you want, cleanrom is great
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Very true what you guys say, stock ROM is great and all but I love to see all the cool features people put out in their custom Roms.
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I flashed every ROM that was available, that after I backed-up my original stock ROM. It's the only way you'll find which one you like the most. My 2 best options are ParanoidAndroid 3 and CyanogenMod Kangs, but I love the stability and speed of latter. It's all about preferences, just read a lot of comments of what users say and that also can help you.
Update: I love too much the custom ROMS, the customizing and the utilities they add are just fantastic. That's why I never stay with a stock ROM.
CleanROM if you just want a basic ROM like stock without all the bloatware.
ParanoidAndroid if you want a ton of features to play around with. Some are buggy at the moment and performance won't be as good as it would be with CleanROM but I think it's worth it for the features.

Thinking of moving from Touchwiz to a stock ROM

Since getting my Note 2, I've only stuck with Touchwiz-based ROMS, but I really like the stock Android experience and I'm wondering what I'd be losing by moving to an AOSP-based rom.
Obviously, most of the pen features would be gone, but with apps like GMD SPen Control, third-party note taking apps, third-party multi-window and way better launchers (I use Nova now anyways)... what extra stuff do I loose that I might regret? I use the camera a lot on this phone, and even with about 6 third-party camera apps that I've purchased, I still like the Samsung stock camera app.
So before I jump, have any of you moved to a stock rom and regretted it? Why?
Camera isn't as good - slower to focus, burst mode isn't as good.
I rarely use S-pen, so can't really comment on that.
Most keyboards out there don't have a separate number row - there is a hacked version of the Google keyboard on here though.
Can't really think of much else - about the only thing I actually miss is call recording. If you take the plunge, I think SOKP is a very good place to start. Great customisations, good support.
In my experience AOSP roms have a little worse battery life than touchwiz.Elsewise there isn't really much to lose.
If you have a bit of trouble making up your mind you use Devil kernel dual boot.
This way you can have both AOSP 4.4 and Touchwiz 4.3 (no official 4.4 yet).
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Damn. I guess ill be sticking with a touchwiz rom. Looks like I'll loose more than I'll gain. Thanks for the replies.
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yeah I alwasys seem to come back to the TW roms ... I like the pen features alot...
and with custom 4.4 TW rom coming very soon for t0lte (n7105) I will be very happy.
vanilla kitkat roms are very nice otherwise.
I think you also lose HDMI out and you have to format your sdcard to FAT32.
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