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Even when my phone is 'idle' it seems to be communicating over 3g. Is is normal or is there something I can do, I'm looking to tweak my phone to optimize battery life.
I've already gone through the guide telling me how to optimize my battery. Does anyone have any additional tips on how to optimize battery? Thanks in advance.
Did you shut off autosync for the Facebook for HTC Sense? Seems that thing keeps trying to update I noticed that mine was running like crazy until I shut that off.
I was having same issue and found that the people app was causing data usage. After I killed it data stopped, app still runs fine when launched but seems to only happen on first boot.
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I'm having the same issue, i used 300mb of data today and i really didn't even use my phone all that often. I have fresh .3 and full root with nand unlocked. Now is there an app that will monitor bandwidth usage s o i can see which app is chewing my bandwidth? As odd as it seams i think this is just a bug, i tried to capture data use when the 3g data lite was on but it showed minimal (under 60kb in 30 min)usage, its really kind of strange. for now i just turned off data.
On another note, I'm noticing something very very odd with my phone... even after i kill WIFI tethering app my pc is still connected and i can still use data, its odd.
Is it normal to have 39% battery left with normal use after 8 hours 30 mins?
Running Opendesire 4.0 and newest radio
Just asking becasue i think it's running low fast..
OJ haven't died...
your lucky,
my battery is empty after 7 hours.
desire's battery is terrible. I couldn't manage to get 5h of using on it.
I am running the stock htc sense 2.2 rom, and my battery with moderate to heavy use would hold out for 24 hours. Something is badly wrong if you are getting less than 12. It was pretty much the same for me on 2.1 too. Getting 38+ hours now I'm using tasker.
Custom roms are supposed to be more efficient too. Have you looked to see what is using the power? A rouge app perhaps?
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I wrote this post the other day and just to update it i ended up getting 60 hours on one full charge which is pretty amazing. Some of the other posters had a go at me about turning mobile internet off and wifi off but who cares i got 60 HOURS!!!!
Hi Everyone,
I thought id share the amazing battery life im having, ive had it going for 48 hours so far and still got 45% of my battery still left, ill tell you all my set up and i wish you can get the same.
Installed LeeDroids rom (1.9a) which is absolutely amazing i must say, i love it.
Got the new radio 32.44.00.32u_5.09.05.30_2.
SetCPU running and have the normal standby on the phone at 642mhz and 245mhz when the screen is off.
I also have a task killer on set to kill most apps when the screen turns off and i have read about androids memory management but it makes me feel better when i run it and i personally think it helps.
Finally, and possibly the most important is an app called AutoKiller that interacts with androids internal memory management system and i have that set to ultimate.
I think thats it, and i have been using the phone averagely, and have turned off wifi and mobile internet and only use it when i need it.
Good luck everyone, hope this is helpful in someway.
I used to get 6 to 12 hours after I recovered my phone from being usb bricked. I'd missed a vital part of the recovery procedure! Now I get over 24 hours with heavy usage. I'm also using Setcpu.
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Sorry bad English. I have rooted Desire + DeFrost and battery life is about 10-12 hour.
Chances are that anyone who is getting really bad battery life has a rogue app installed.
FWIW, I installed the Sky News app yesterday, and found, via Spare Parts, that it was stopping the phone from sleeping and creaming my battery life. I installed it, and things went back to normal.
Regards,
Dave
how to find which software etc is gulping the most battery?
There are two ways of doing this. The quickest is to open your dialer, and dial the following; *#*#4636#*#*
This code will open up a hidden menu. Select 'battery history'.
From here you can see what aspects of your phone are using which resources from selecting from the drop-down menu. Try looking at 'partial wake usage'. This will show up any rogue apps that are doing the phone from going to sleep. In fact, check them all out.
The second way is to download an app called 'spare parts' which gives you access to this hidden menu without using the dialer.
Hope this reveals the culprit!
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lhoang8500 said:
desire's battery is terrible. I couldn't manage to get 5h of using on it.
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you are doing something very wrong if that is the case.
15h1m and i'm on 73%.
29 hours. 41%
I'm relatively new to android but my last two windows mobile based devices have had much longer battery life if I set the network mode to GSM only. Would this be the same for the desire or would it be better on WCDMA only?
GSM will only give you 2g bandwidth, but yes the battery will last longer. CDMA will give you 3g and HSDPA. I leave mine on this and get 36 hours typically.
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ukdj78 said:
I'm relatively new to android but my last two windows mobile based devices have had much longer battery life if I set the network mode to GSM only. Would this be the same for the desire or would it be better on WCDMA only?
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The biggest issue with doing this is that you won't get simultaneous voice and data over the cellular network. If some tries to call you whilst your phone is syncing (and thus actively using data), the call will go straight to voicemail.
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Dave
2d 18h and on 16% with mobile internet on, sync on etc. But my usage is fairly low, about 20 mins voice, 10 texts approx, 20 mins 3G web browsing and about 10 mins of gaming.
On heavy use, it will last at least 24hrs - not bad, though I use setcpu to adjust max clock speed to about 700mhz and I have not notice any difference in terms of slow down.
Also I am not using any task killers apps.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I use Timeriffic to automatically turn on airplane mode at night every night and off in the morning.
foxmeister said:
The biggest issue with doing this is that you won't get simultaneous voice and data over the cellular network. If some tries to call you whilst your phone is syncing (and thus actively using data), the call will go straight to voicemail.
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Dave
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That not happen on my phone, FORTUNALLY!!! If my phone is on 2g and have the internet connection active and some tries to call me, the internet connection will stopped and i can get the call..Maybe depends on the operator? (anyway my desire is unbranded with stock froyo 2.2)
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That not happen on my phone, FORTUNALLY!!! If my phone is on 2g and have the internet connection active and some tries to call me, the internet connection will stopped and i can get the call..Maybe depends on the operator? (anyway my desire is unbranded with stock froyo 2.2)
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Yes - I probably should've mentioned that this is carrier dependent, but most carriers don't seem to be implement it.
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Dave
Does using wifi drain the battery? Is it better than using the actual 3G or 4G?
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I'm sure someone has a way more technical answer but I would think not. I have no issues with drainage on wifi, as on 2g its on the network constantly and not continually searching for towers.
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Does using wifi drain the battery? Is it better than using the actual 3G or 4G?
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If you are connected to a wifi network, it saved much more battery than using 3 or 4g. However, if you leave wifi on but don't connect to a network, it will drain battery
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ok cool thanks alot man. Idk when I'm home I just like using wifi better, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems faster. Thanks again
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Turning on anything more than necessary will kill your battery faster. Not always by a lot but everything does and wifi wouldn't always be faster because it depends on the wifi's local area connection. Best way to save battery is to go in settings/applications/manage applications the force close anything you don't need running. Make sure you know what it is you're closing or you could run into some problems. If you end up killing a system app and it won't reopen itself, its nothing a reboot won't fix.
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Turning on anything more than necessary will kill your battery faster. Not always by a lot but everything does and wifi wouldn't always be faster because it depends on the wifi's local area connection. Best way to save battery is to go in settings/applications/manage applications the force close anything you don't need running. Make sure you know what it is you're closing or you could run into some problems. If you end up killing a system app and it won't reopen itself, its nothing a reboot won't fix.
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DO NOT DO THIS.
Android has its own automatic task management system, and its best if you just let it do what it does best: manage on its own.
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Well gee I do it all the time and it works fine. If it wasn't intended to be used I don't think it would come without root permissions and anyone who isn't an idiot will realize that force closing android system will cause problems. But if you wanna suggest a task manager that doesn't actually kill apps and adds some bloat ware, be my guest.
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Well gee I do it all the time and it works fine. If it wasn't intended to be used I don't think it would come without root permissions and anyone who isn't an idiot will realize that force closing android system will cause problems. But if you wanna suggest a task manager that doesn't actually kill apps and adds some bloat ware, be my guest.
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He's not going to recommend another task manager/killer, because Android already does it by itself. Plus, killing a task that is not finished just causes it to respawn. Task killers are unnecessary, and may actually hurt performance and battery life.
Its explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849974&highlight=task+killer
I agree that it's best to let Android clean it's own house normally, however I'm getting a little bit jarred off with certain apps starting themselves up at boot-time.
Paypal app for some reason has installed a service on my phone, despite the fact I've never even logged into it and I can't see why it would need a service running all the time.
Also since the latest Google Maps upgrade there seems to be something under my running tasks called Rate Places. I've not used the check-in service on GMaps at all, nor will I ever.
As well as this, since I've been running a modded CM ROM (SparksMod Extra Hot Sauce) then I constantly have Wi-Fi Calling running - again this is useless to me cos I'm not on TMob US.
Any suggestions for a decent app which can stop all these things running before they ever start, and keep them stopped?
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I agree that it's best to let Android clean it's own house normally, however I'm getting a little bit jarred off with certain apps starting themselves up at boot-time.
Paypal app for some reason has installed a service on my phone, despite the fact I've never even logged into it and I can't see why it would need a service running all the time.
Also since the latest Google Maps upgrade there seems to be something under my running tasks called Rate Places. I've not used the check-in service on GMaps at all, nor will I ever.
As well as this, since I've been running a modded CM ROM (SparksMod Extra Hot Sauce) then I constantly have Wi-Fi Calling running - again this is useless to me cos I'm not on TMob US.
Any suggestions for a decent app which can stop all these things running before they ever start, and keep them stopped?
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Try "Autorun Manager"
I use it, but SOME apps will auto-restart. I think you need the Pay version of Autorun Manager to prevent those from re-launching.
I use the free version, and it gets rid of some of the problem.
WiFi is definitely causing massive battery drain on my G2 with CM6.1.1. I leave it on at night, and if I have 50% when I go to sleep, I'm down to 3% in the morning. Without doing anything.
I'm not quite sure why this is happening, but it is, and it sucks. I can't go back on 3G/4G right now because I'm at just about 4.8GB, and I don't want to go over my 5GB soft cap.
I wish I knew why WiFi was causing such battery drain...
Do you have anything updating automatically (Email, facebook, etc)? That would be my best guess. I leave wifi on when I'm at home and it isn't that bad at all. Also, I'm sure theres an app out there to let you see what is using the wifi for updates and such. I just don't know of one off the top of my head. I have an app like that for 3G data but it doesn't do wifi.
I just went through every one of my apps to make sure that nothing is set to sync, except Google Voice and Email. My battery is at 50% right now, so we'll see what it's at tomorrow morning.
As you can see from the screenshot, WiFi is using quite a bit of battery. I'm not sure why, but hopefully soon (after some testing) I'll have my answer.
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Yup, 2 nights in a row, my battery has gone from 40% to dead, simply from sitting on my night stand. I wonder if this is why T-Mobile discontinued the G2... because they knew it would have battery issues, and they didn't want to deal with serving warranties? Hmmm...
Its a bit of a leap of logic to link your personal battery issue with T-Mob discontinuing the phone. T-Mob has a good number of Android phones coming out in the near future, with T-Mob really ramping up their support of Android devices. So its been very reasonably speculated that they are discontinuing the G2 in order to make room in their lineup (and stockrooms, etc.) for the new phones.
I get a full day of moderate usage on my Vision, and can get close to 2 days with low usage. That's very typical for a modern smartphone. I usually get in the range of 2-3% battery drain per hour when the phone is idle. And that's with WiFi always on (even when not connected to a WiFi network) and auto sync of Gmail and HTC stock and weather apps. You haven't mentioned how long "overnight" is exactly, but I'll assume 8 hours or so. So your phone draining from 40% to dead overnight seems unusual. WiFi typically uses less battery then the cell data network, when WiFi is available. I suspect there is something else going on, besides just being on WiFi. If the cell reception is dodgey in your area (or fringe 3G reception), this might run the battery down (even if you are on WiFi) as the phone is constantly searching for signal. Or your radio may be mismatched to your custom ROM. Or you may just have a bad battery. Also, was the battery drain any different when you were on the stock or other custom ROMs? I personally haven't witnessed the battery drain to be significantly different across the ROMs I've tried. But that seems to vary, as there often seem to be people complaining about this or that ROM causing more battery drain.
The reason I thought it might be a hardware defect issue is that my wife and I got G2's at the same time. I rooted mine and have been running CM6.1.1 for a few months now, and my wife has kept hers stock. However, the battery issue hit both our phones at almost the exact same time.
It sounds ridiculous, but conspiracy theories are fun to play with. The fact that I've been rooted so long, and it JUST happened weirds me out. Add my wife's phone to the equation, and it's even weirder. I kept my phone on WiFi and 2G networks only last night (yeah, about 8 hours), and the exact same thing happened.
Maybe I should just get a new battery, I don't know. But I do religiously delete apps I don't use and make sure the ones I do use are syncing as minimally as possible.
Every since Verizon pushed the Lollipop update to my N4, my "Mobile Data" turns back on all by itself after it has been disabled. It even turns back on when I am connected to wifi.
Has anyone else experienced this and if so can you please explain how I may fix this.
Thanks in advance.
Not exactly that but I have noticed that now I'm always on 3g when I'm usually on 4G all day long same area this is crazy
Mine is also randomly turning on Mobile Data too after the Lollipop update. I have a small data allotment with VZW, this could send me into overages.
I seen on one thread, searching through your downloaded apps to find out which ones have "change network connectivity" in the permissions. I happen to have 6 of them. Some you can disable, but it removes the updates, other you cant disable without removing it.
Another recommendation was hitting settings from the pull down menu, wifi, advanced, then uncheck the "smart network switch". Mine wasn't checked to begin with, so I'm out of ideas til I start removing apps one by one...
The data has been turning on by itself during sleep time on my Note 4. It caused the phone to use 500mb of data in one nite. My data is always off, wifi is only on when using the phone otherwise it's off too. I called Verizon and they have no clue. This is my 2nd new Note 4 for myself & my wife, nothing but problems. Think we are going to switch to anything other than a Samsung phone.
Well, I've systematically removed all 6 apps one at a time. The Youtube and Facebook apps, I was only able to disable them instead of removing them completely. In the end, the phone still turns on Mobile Data by itself. This must be something internal with Lollipop. I have a small data allowance and I'm afraid its going to go over simply because it wont stay OFF even with WiFi available!!
I would call customer service and have them ship you out a replacement. This is our 3rd phone and hopefully it will work as it should. Good luck
Outcast,
I've had my Note4 since it was released in November. It didn't have this problem with 4.4 Kitkat. It's something new with Lollipop and I doubt a new phone would solve this problem, could be wrong.
How involved is it to go back to Kitkat?
I'm not chancing voiding my warranty. They replaced my phones by them and not by request. Our phones get hot and get a warning then shuts down, apps close constantly and the phones consistently reboot on their own. Then the data turning on by itself. The other problems I don't think are software based but hardware failures. The data can very well be software related.
wifiwizard said:
Every since Verizon pushed the Lollipop update to my N4, my "Mobile Data" turns back on all by itself after it has been disabled. It even turns back on when I am connected to wifi.
Has anyone else experienced this and if so can you please explain how I may fix this.
Thanks in advance.
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I have the same problem and i used up so much of my data when i am at home where the wifi connects automatically on everything else. On kit kat this never happened and i am attempting a downgrade so you might want to try that.
I was having the same problem with mine. I also live on the edge of 4g area, so it was constantly swapping between 3g and 4g. In addition to using some data it was killing my battery swapping between 3g and 4g. Using almost 10% per hour when not being used. I disabled most of the verizon stuff, support and protection, Verizon navigator, caller name id, message+, and verizon location. I turned off facebook location reporting in the app settings, and disabled google location. I did all these a couple at a time and would reboot to see if it fixed the problem and after all those were done i rebooted and wiped the cache and the prblem was gone. I turned google location back on so far and its still working the way it is supposed to. It shows a greyed out 3g symbol and my battery life is much better. My phone sat off the charger all night and only dropped 4% and in 5 hours of moderate use its down to 77% left. Wish i knew exactly which app was causing the problem to help you out better but hopefully you can try those apps and settings and get the same results.
Well it worked for about 3 days, but this morning data and wifi were both running again.
Data usage Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Been having the same problem even when I disconnect data ten or fifteen minutes later data is back on. And I've noticed even if I am connected to Wi-Fi data trumps it and I end up using a ton of DATA when I've been connected to Wi-Fi all day, getting seriously upset cause I never used this much data before.
I have same problem with my Note3 running Lollipop. Have tried every suggestion I can find to turn off data, but it is still runs, unless I am on wifi. Data is set to off, 4g symbol in notification bar is greyed out, but data is still on. I have found forums all over the Web with other people with this problem, but no solution yet. My phone is unlocked but not rooted.
Hello all, I have been using the d2spr for quite some time... without mobile. I have no service on the phone and have no problems using it as an esspresso device like my p5113 tab 2. On my tab two there was a thread about removing the cell from the device, which I will more than likely have to look up again for that device. Is this possible for this phone? Anyone have any experience removing cell from the phone. I have read that searching for signal reduces the battery life, and I have yet to try it on the phone. If anyone can give me any pointers on this would be great. Also if you know which files to delete would save me a crap load of time searching for it.... thanks in advance...
Wizzdome
are you basically trying to use it as a galaxy player? (i.e. an android version of an ipod touch?) if so, ive just put mine into airplane mode and turned wifi on manually. It greatly improves battery life as its not using the cell radio.
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are you basically trying to use it as a galaxy player? (i.e. an android version of an ipod touch?) if so, ive just put mine into airplane mode and turned wifi on manually. It greatly improves battery life as its not using the cell radio.
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not exactly I use it as a voip phone and remote control as well as play various games, though there is no service on it, it shows the mobile connection. With the tablet it was a wifi only tab so removing cellular feature from android really increased battery life. Though I was not sure if it would work the same on the d2spr... not quite sure where to start though so thought I would ask, but thanks for the alternative, I am not sure about using airplane and wifi together as I have not tried that before.
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not exactly I use it as a voip phone and remote control as well as play various games, though there is no service on it, it shows the mobile connection. With the tablet it was a wifi only tab so removing cellular feature from android really increased battery life. Though I was not sure if it would work the same on the d2spr... not quite sure where to start though so thought I would ask, but thanks for the alternative, I am not sure about using airplane and wifi together as I have not tried that before.
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gotcha. well, if youre using strictly voip, then the airplane mode and then turning wifi back on separately will work very well. like i said, ive done that with other devices and it substantially increases the battery life. Give it a whirl, what can it hurt?
Just an update with the steps on what I did.. as well as the results. With rooted device I deleted the 3 folders telecom, telephone, and another that starts with a tele that I can not think of. They are located in system/priv-app folder on root of system. (Using root explorer) After that I reboot, and all is working fine with no cellular at all. I have been letting it sit just to see how long the battery lasts on standby. So far I am at 28 and a half hours... I still get notifications and wifi works smooth. In the battery section in settings it currently reads charge remaining 8 days. Anyone with no service like me might want to give it a try... if something does not work all you have to do is re-flash what ever rom you had and that will put the folders back. and install cellular on the phone again... I would say that is the number one battery drain of the phone next to the display...
Day seven of my battery test and So far it appears that without cellular on the d2 you can get up to 10 days of standby charge. I did not use the phone at all for anything but to check status. Also, If you notice the small change in the curve, it is because it downloaded updates. It was connected to the internet the entire time...