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[Q] Most stable KitKat ROM for Desire Z?

Im wondering right now what is the most stable KitKat ROM for the Desire Z? I know it cant be stable AND no lag so lets just go with stable....Right now, I have a 4.2.2 ROM that is OK but sometimes it reboots ALL day and suddenly stops and is stable (and no lag).

Which 4.2.2 rom do you have?
For now, nothing on KK is better than the AlterNdromadus 4.2.2

Kéno40 said:
Which 4.2.2 rom do you have?
For now, nothing on KK is better than the AlterNdromadus 4.2.2
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Its guhl's permissions ROM.
I am not looking for a 4.2.2 ROM. I asked for a 4.4.x ROM.
Thank you for your reply but that is not what I am asking

so try purekat, it's not stable but for me the most stable

riahc3 said:
Its guhl's permissions ROM.
I am not looking for a 4.2.2 ROM. I asked for a 4.4.x ROM.
Thank you for your reply but that is not what I am asking
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To be clear, I wanted to tell you that KK Roms are far away from being as stable as this 4.2.2 rom.
So, I went back on 4.2.2.
The only thing that are better on KK : the clock, dialer and contact apps (aesthetically)
I'm waiting for PureKat beta3 (after Marco's exams !).

Kéno40 said:
To be clear, I wanted to tell you that KK Roms are far away from being as stable as this 4.2.2 rom.
So, I went back on 4.2.2.
The only thing that are better on KK : the clock, dialer and contact apps (aesthetically)
I'm waiting for PureKat beta3 (after Marco's exams !).
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To be clear, I wanted to ask what KK ROM is the most stable.
So, I never mentioned anything about 4.2.2.
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....

riahc3 said:
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....
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It is not IMO.
I just gave you my feed-back. You're free to test it by yourself. I will be happy if you find a KK Roms which deserve to stay on it on our device...

riahc3 said:
To be clear, I wanted to ask what KK ROM is the most stable.
So, I never mentioned anything about 4.2.2.
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....
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No, your preconceptions are incorrect. Firstly, CM is based on AOSP and does not diverge away enough (ala MIUI) to ruin performance. Secondly, CM is actually better performing because with CM we have more up to date libs etc. especially for qcom stuff like libhardware. Due to there never being AOSP support for this device and HTC stopping official support at 2.3, then clearly CM stuff is gonna work better for our device. Why do you think the Andromadus team stopped AOSP 4.2.2 after beta8?
Now the one case where AOSP is faster (for me) is Fyodor's 4.2.2 ROM, because he put in the effort to get all the libhardware stuff and qcom display stuff working nicely.
If you don't believe me then sync the latest Andromadus AOSP 4.2.2 source (as of around the end of 2012 I think), build it, and tell me you prefer it to their most recent CM build.
Kéno40 said:
It is not IMO.
I just gave you my feed-back. You're free to test it by yourself. I will be happy if you find a KK Roms which deserve to stay on it on our device...
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This is true, and the only advice I can give also. Besides, there are only 2 KitKat ROMs to choose from: Andromadus test builds or Marco's PureKat (CyanKat, AOSB are out of date so won't be stable).
I might like to add that this thread is against the rules anyway so you should be grateful it hasn't been reported yet and accept the advice you've recieved (which has been good).
Essentially, for stability go with 4.2.2, for most stable KitKat it will take you a total of 2 whole flashes to find out which one you prefer.

HTCDreamOn said:
No, your preconceptions are incorrect. Firstly, CM is based on AOSP and does not diverge away enough (ala MIUI) to ruin performance.
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Every 4.2.2 ROM Ive tried that is based on CM vs AOSP is slower. On AOSP you lose some nice features, but Its always seemed slower and more of a memory hogger.
Seems to me that way anyways.
HTCDreamOn said:
Secondly, CM is actually better performing because with CM we have more up to date libs etc. especially for qcom stuff like libhardware. Due to there never being AOSP support for this device and HTC stopping official support at 2.3, then clearly CM stuff is gonna work better for our device. Why do you think the Andromadus team stopped AOSP 4.2.2 after beta8?
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Newer isnt always better.

Also:
I was thinking of updating this, but I've lost my G2. I can't blind dev and I ran into enough difficulties as it was when I could test it. Java is just too confusing for me right now, so much more confusing than C which I'm only just starting to get comfy with. Unfortunately the lag is just a problem you'll have to get used to, backup and clean flash and wait a while. I couldn't do anything tobhelp you anyway, I just don't know how. I can give you the age ole tips: no task killers, no placebo scripts, minimal apps, minimal gapps, no hangouts, no Facebook, no heavy browsers (opera mini is great) but yeah I'm really sorry but there won't be any updates. As it is I think the ROM works well anyway. I'm no dev so if you want someone to support then turn to Flinny, Marco, NeverGone, etc. It sucks that my goal to have a stable sorta up to date ROam was dashed but that's life. Thanks to the people who liked the ROM anyway
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1: Java is more confusing than C? Wow....
2: Saying "lag is just a problem youll have to get used to" is a no no. Like I mentioned, the ROM Im currently on is almost lagless but just has the problem of suddenly becoming stupid and rebooting all the time. Other than that, it is great.
3: Saying that the ROM works well anyways when you are mentioning that it lags and also recommending several comprimises like no heavy browsers and no minimal apps is just a no-no. Im sure this ROM had its time and its moment but its been out matched.
I guess Ill stay on this ROM for now and hope that KK development gets better. That or Phonebloks...

Im using a lower end phone these days because of a nonrelated issue and it already has 4.4.2! Im just surprised.
It also works pretty damn good considering the speed and RAM it has.

For me AOSB 1.2.9 is faster but Flinny's alpha3 is most stable because using AOSB it some times gets reboot especially when open es file explorer .quick pic etc.But AOSB consumes a lot of customizations its really good.

[POLL] How Many KitKat Users Are Here?

He Guys, After KitKat Released Now All I See In Xperia Arc/s Apps & Themes Section It KitKAt ROM And KK Apps ...
No One Is Modding Anything Like Old Times Or What Now? I Wonder How Many Of You Are Currenty Using KK ?
All I Know Is It's Can't Be Lighting Fast & Cool ROM... Cos Xperia Arc Has Low End Hardware How It can Run KK Smoothly?! >
When If YOu Install Latest Facebook It's Complate Lagdroid...... But It Works Cool On ICS Without Overloaded Apps + Datas & Updates...
I Just Wonder How Many KK Users Are Here or why you are using it? (I Want KK Aslo Just because to run lates KK walkman app, nothing more)

gius321 said:
He Guys, After KitKat Released Now All I See In Xperia Arc/s Apps & Themes Section It KitKAt ROM And KK Apps ...
No One Is Modding Anything Like Old Times Or What Now? I Wonder How Many Of You Are Currenty Using KK ?
All I Know Is It's Can't Be Lighting Fast & Cool ROM... Cos Xperia Arc Has Low End Hardware How It can Run KK Smoothly?! >
When If YOu Install Latest Facebook It's Complate Lagdroid...... But It Works Cool On ICS Without Overloaded Apps + Datas & Updates...
I Just Wonder How Many KK Users Are Here or why you are using it? (I Want KK Aslo Just because to run lates KK walkman app, nothing more)
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to answer some stuff quick:
-KK is a hell lot faster than ANY ics rom with & without apps on it. maybe currently its a bit sluggish but thats because ION is in ACTIVE development. but its getting better & better every update. for latest version of LX im really amazed. if you know that ''It's Can't Be Lighting Fast & Cool ROM'' you know nothing about KK experience & bro KK is even optimized for low end HW. your sentence is wrong. KK runs a lot faster & stabler than stock ICS!!!! the thing is that some drivers are not meant for KK & make some things not work superb like wifi. i have much app installed & phone still super fast. i dont use fackbook & i guess its fb fault that phone become laggy. (fb works good on ICS?? did you making jokes?? )
you should try KK instead just only talking about it. i think u have no idea (what u talking about ) also use some good rom like LX, to many half baked roms out there
- dev porting apps mostly to their systems using. mostly they use the newest.
- sony apps porting to same os KK apps port to KK is MUCH easier than to JB (very hard many code changed / missing in JB)
try KK bro & report me bak

Thanks For The Right Answer..
hi there bro... thanks for useful reply... i don't have much experience in KK roms... i will definitely try it later... so what rom do you use?
Legacy Xperia 443? >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545354
is that optimized rom? i just can't imagine how KK can be better then ICS... maybe it's really optimized for 2011 xperias...

gius321 said:
hi there bro... thanks for useful reply... i don't have much experience in KK roms... i will definitely try it later... so what rom do you use?
Legacy Xperia 443? >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545354
is that optimized rom? i just can't imagine how KK can be better then ICS... maybe it's really optimized for 2011 xperias...
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KK (aswell as JB) is better because it uses the new 3.4 kernel. this is a power pack. ICS still rocks stoneage 2.6.2xx kernel.also its CM based which is hold close to stock android = more power for you. one of kitkats pros was project sveltje which wanted to make sure that the latest OS of android even run smooth on low end device (512 mb ram) it also benefits our devices.
personally i use latest LX 4.4.3 rom (with sony home, media apps & sliglthy sony style framework by me) because its keeped clean & its updated frequently (not abdonned after 2 builds ) but the newest versions (after 19/3 build) are all ION based & with hints . some bugs here & there, new bugs comming (because of active development) if you want just check out kitkat, use the 19/3 build as it is the last PMEM one & gives most stability in kitkat on our device.
if you just want to upgrade your rom to use it as daily driver & dont care to allways have the neewest, then use CM10.1 (also LX) will give you best mix of speed from new kernel & its the most stable of all JB roms for our devices.
just to mention in coparsion to ICS: battery will get down faster & wifi isnt perfect (i have no problems). also camera is much better on ICS. (mostly due to lack of proper drivers.)
take 2 hrs time, do a backup of current rom (recovery), the flash LX kernel ROM & gapps of choice. N# experiece yourself. im really amazed how far our phones got . in case you dont like you can just flash old kernel & restore backup (or go to stockkernel via falshing stock ICS ftf via flashtool, then install xparts, install CWM --> restore backup)
dont forget to follow LX install instruction EXACTLY good luck

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@gius321
I know you're no newbie.
It pains me to see that you've not tried out any kitkat ROMs all this while.
May I suggest a particular ROM.
C-Rom version 5.6 KitKat 4.4.2
Try it.You will like it.
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Ideal first custom ROM?

I get my z1 compact tomorrow and I am looking for suggestions for a new ROM as I am coming from an s4 any good ones about?

Try CyanogenMod Original, it has everything you need
I would prefer CM11 over CM12.
Last nightly of CM11: http://forum.xda-developers.com/son.../cm11-nightly-available-anymore-help-t3014226
CM12 ist in Beta still... not every CM function is implemented yet. And it's not as stable as CM11... i would wait at least for M3 before using CM12.

You have to decide if you want a stock based ROM (Xperia feeling) or a full custom ROM (AOSP, CM, etc).
Apart from that, there is no "beginner" ROM whatsoever. It always depends on which features you want, how important battery life is and so on.
Just check the threads of the ROMs look at the features and screenshots and read what users say about it and then make your choice.
You can always backup your stock Android and try them out.

As far as I know, using custom ROM (that means any ROM not based on stock ROM) means worse camera performance and loss of other hardware related features as bravia engine and xloud. The last two do not seem that important, but the deterioration of camera performance is the main reason I do not use a custom ROM.
By the way, the ROM of my signature is perfect.

Is there a bug-free lollipop rom?

hi guys, my friend want me to reset his gnex, i had it long time ago, and for me the best and smoothest rom was stock 4.1.2. i flashed paranoid kitkat rom for him ,but is not as fast or stable as 4.1.2.
i noticed that some lollipop rom are out, but with a lot of bugs. is there any lollipop rom that have no bugs?

leandronb said:
hi guys, my friend want me to reset his gnex, i had it long time ago, and for me the best and smoothest rom was stock 4.1.2. i flashed paranoid kitkat rom for him ,but is not as fast or stable as 4.1.2.
i noticed that some lollipop rom are out, but with a lot of bugs. is there any lollipop rom that have no bugs?
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All ROMs - both official builds from Google and Custom ROMS from our talented developers here on XDA - have bugs. Just a fact of digital life!
If you want the most stable build available, you're probably best served by Google's official releases. Scroll down for the different GNex versions/links.
If you want Lollipop, check out the Android Development board. Plenty of great developers and ROMs to chose from there. I have a 5.1 ROM linked in my signature below, as well.

AvidPhisherman said:
All ROMs - both official builds from Google and Custom ROMS from our talented developers here on XDA - have bugs. Just a fact of digital life!
If you want the most stable build available, you're probably best served by Google's official releases. Scroll down for the different GNex versions/links.
If you want Lollipop, check out the Android Development board. Plenty of great developers and ROMs to chose from there. I have a 5.1 ROM linked in my signature below, as well.
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thanks for the answer. i will try this 5.1 rom. Some roms have little bugs, and others like lollipop roms make the device not good for daily driver, like the camera not saving pictures, green lines on video etc. i will try some roms and leave the most stable on his device, but i think i will flash 4.1.2 in the end.

leandronb said:
thanks for the answer. i will try this 5.1 rom. Some roms have little bugs, and others like lollipop roms make the device not good for daily driver, like the camera not saving pictures, green lines on video etc. i will try some roms and leave the most stable on his device, but i think i will flash 4.1.2 in the end.
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GL
I've tested out many of the newest ROM'S and I'm still not impressed with the overall functionality of them when compared to the 4.1.2 PA ROM I've been running for over 2.5 yrs now.
The following is the files/order I flash in Clockworkmod:
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE BACKUP YOUR CURRENT ROM/FILES TO A PC, JUST IN CASE, CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW.
4.1.2 PA ROM
http://d-h.st/users/gangsterjoop?fld_id=9654
Gapps
http://d-h.st/la8
4.2 clock/camera/keyboard/gallery
http://d-h.st/Zja
Kernel
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pu9brbuovdhe22h/v3.0.53-ZenSERIES_v10_4.1_Final_Tuna.zip
3rd party apps I use:
Nova launcher prime
Pie Controls Pro
PGM2 aka touchcontrol
Lagfix premium
Easyeyez
Trickstermod
Greenify
Media server killer
Flashplayer 10.3
Adaway
Lollypop 123 keyboard
Exposed extensions-gravitybox, KitKat toast, smooth progress bar.

isajoo said:
GL
I've tested out many of the newest ROM'S and I'm still not impressed with the overall functionality of them when compared to the 4.1.2 PA ROM I've been running for over 2.5 yrs now.
The following is the files/order I flash in Clockworkmod:
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE BACKUP YOUR CURRENT ROM/FILES TO A PC, JUST IN CASE, CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW.
4.1.2 PA ROM
http://d-h.st/users/gangsterjoop?fld_id=9654
Gapps
http://d-h.st/la8
4.2 clock/camera/keyboard/gallery
http://d-h.st/Zja
Kernel
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pu9brbuovdhe22h/v3.0.53-ZenSERIES_v10_4.1_Final_Tuna.zip
3rd party apps I use:
Nova launcher prime
Pie Controls Pro
PGM2 aka touchcontrol
Lagfix premium
Easyeyez
Trickstermod
Greenify
Media server killer
Flashplayer 10.3
Adaway
Lollypop 123 keyboard
Exposed extensions-gravitybox, KitKat toast, smooth progress bar.
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Man this device was a pain for me today. after wiping to install 4.1.2 the device disconnected. and the usb connector i think is faulty. i had to flash every bit of rom in fastboot and a lot of errors. so i installed 4.0 rom because system.img was smaller and took a lot of time to copy the 300mb file and finally the device booted. i ota to 4.1.1 and i think i will ota manually to 4.1.2 because on device already appeared 4.2.2 ota. do you think is worth update all the way to 4.3? the device is smooth and i like the camera app better than 4.2 rom with that awful lag to rotate. do you think is better have an updated device or keep it in 4.1.2?

AOSP Lollipop 5.1- a wee better than stock is the best lollipop I could find yet. It is near-stock Android, and the overall performance is very good comparing it to the age of this device. The only bad thing I can say about this device isbthat the battery is draining faster(it might be an issue with my phone). If you are brave enough(such brave, much wow), you can try to overclock to 1.5 and the performance will improve by a lot
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[Q]Stable Custom ROM

Dear All,
I'm looking for stable custom rom (if possible lollipop/marshmallow) for my e988 4g KitKat device, especially that can save battery usage. Do you guys have any refference?
There are so many custom rom but i'm difficult to find the plus and minus side of those rom.
Ive been looking to cm site, but unfortunately they are not available anymore
Thankyou

Look, most AOSP ROMs have same issues: camera crashes, bluetooth connection problems etc. etc. Everything else is pretty much same. People were mostly using SlimLP and Carbon, some used Bliss but I think there is no download link for it. Slim and Carbon use a bit more customizable kernel (dave used my kernel for as long as he built Carbon, and SlimLP has just a bit newer version of it, with GPU issues fixed completely).
My choices were Slim and (later, after Slim stopped updating their Lollipop sources) PAC (built for personal needs, no uploads) so if you want AOSP, go with SlimLP or Carbon. Carbon was working nicely too, and last time I had Bliss installed was somewhere after Lollipop just started, so can't judge how last versions worked.
If any of this is not good enough, try any of these stock roms, if any still available. I can't recommend anything from there simply because I never wanted to use those - if stock was that good, I'd stay on it
P.S. This device never received Marshmallow updates due to insane amount of work someone had to provide. I had few attempts but never moved over some issues with modem. More in the forums...

Thank you for the explanation, i will look more for Carbon in Android Development threads.

I've been using this daily: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70801465&postcount=720

ssurell said:
I've been using this daily: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70801465&postcount=720
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Still fail to flash carbon from 4.4.2 base..
How about slim lp,bliss pop, and over 2.1?

ShadySquirrel said:
Look, most AOSP ROMs have same issues: camera crashes, bluetooth connection problems etc. etc. Everything else is pretty much same. People were mostly using SlimLP and Carbon, some used Bliss but I think there is no download link for it. Slim and Carbon use a bit more customizable kernel (dave used my kernel for as long as he built Carbon, and SlimLP has just a bit newer version of it, with GPU issues fixed completely).
My choices were Slim and (later, after Slim stopped updating their Lollipop sources) PAC (built for personal needs, no uploads) so if you want AOSP, go with SlimLP or Carbon. Carbon was working nicely too, and last time I had Bliss installed was somewhere after Lollipop just started, so can't judge how last versions worked.
If any of this is not good enough, try any of these stock roms, if any still available. I can't recommend anything from there simply because I never wanted to use those - if stock was that good, I'd stay on it
P.S. This device never received Marshmallow updates due to insane amount of work someone had to provide. I had few attempts but never moved over some issues with modem. More in the forums...
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Were there any MM kernels ever compiled that you know of? Could someone with enough time and work be able to successfully compile a working rom? A bit of a developing noob, but have two E980s and plenty of time on my hands.

saintbump said:
Were there any MM kernels ever compiled that you know of? Could someone with enough time and work be able to successfully compile a working rom? A bit of a developing noob, but have two E980s and plenty of time on my hands.
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Yes, mine I was probably only one who worked on Marshmallow, but sources are now long gone, drive I've kept my repo is dead and I haven't uploaded that anywhere.

I've been using Carbon KK for several months and it is very stable and smooth. I've never used MM so not sure how it compares, but it has all the features I need to keep using this phone every day.
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Resurrection Remix 5.5.9 + WildKernel works quite good for me on E986
https://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-g-pro/development/rom-resurrection-remix-lp-v5-5-8-t3237570
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/op...rnel-wildkernel-build-1-featurlicous-t3069629