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[Q] KK update is still not here on kies (N7100)

Hi guys so I'm helping my friend's Note 2 to manually update it to KK via kies cause OTA is still not available when checking on 'Check for updates' (Yeah it's over a month now and the update is still not there! freaky sam****)
So our problem is the kies dashboard just displays 'Latest firmware' for her device and we cannot see any other option to check updates for KK on kies, that is just stupid :/ Her Note 2 is on JB 4.3, so my question is, is there any possible way on how to get rid of that 'Latest firmware' label on her device via Samsung Kies to be able to get the latest update?
If you're going to say about ODIN or any geeky things to do, she won't allow it lol, she's sick of that, she just wants to upgrade it manually over the kies.

Probably her phone region is on a place that doesn't have the update yet.. aaand of course you cannot change that unless you use Odin.
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JovieBrett said:
Hi guys so I'm helping my friend's Note 2 to manually update it to KK via kies cause OTA is still not available when checking on 'Check for updates' (Yeah it's over a month now and the update is still not there! freaky sam****)
So our problem is the kies dashboard just displays 'Latest firmware' for her device and we cannot see any other option to check updates for KK on kies, that is just stupid :/ Her Note 2 is on JB 4.3, so my question is, is there any possible way on how to get rid of that 'Latest firmware' label on her device via Samsung Kies to be able to get the latest update?
If you're going to say about ODIN or any geeky things to do, she won't allow it lol, she's sick of that, she just wants to upgrade it manually over the kies.
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Only France and India got it via Kies or OTA. So if her phone ain't from those regions she got to wait. As you said she won't allow Odin so tell her to calm down and enjoy 4.3 lol
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singhpratik87 said:
Only France and India got it via Kies or OTA. So if her phone ain't from those regions she got to wait. As you said she won't allow Odin so tell her to calm down and enjoy 4.3 lol
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Would be nice if Samsung actually told people what the release schedule was...

FloatingFatMan said:
Would be nice if Samsung actually told people what the release schedule was...
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I don't think any OEM does that,do they?Anyhow 4.4.2 is seeding to south east asian countries of Philippines , Malaysia , Indonesia and Vietnam .Build # is ND4

singhpratik87 said:
I don't think any OEM does that,do they?Anyhow 4.4.2 is seeding to south east asian countries of Philippines , Malaysia , Indonesia and Vietnam .Build # is ND4
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Very helpful... For those not in south east Asia...
And no, no OEM does that; but that doesn't mean they shouldn't! Over a month now, and still barely rolled out anywhere officially.
At this rate, it'll take them a year to roll out everywhere.

Mohammed779 said:
Probably her phone region is on a place that doesn't have the update yet.. aaand of course you cannot change that unless you use Odin.
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singhpratik87 said:
Only France and India got it via Kies or OTA. So if her phone ain't from those regions she got to wait. As you said she won't allow Odin so tell her to calm down and enjoy 4.3 lol
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FloatingFatMan said:
Would be nice if Samsung actually told people what the release schedule was...
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I don't think any OEM does that,do they?Anyhow 4.4.2 is seeding to south east asian countries of Philippines , Malaysia , Indonesia and Vietnam .Build # is ND4
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FloatingFatMan said:
Very helpful... For those not in south east Asia...
And no, no OEM does that; but that doesn't mean they shouldn't! Over a month now, and still barely rolled out anywhere officially.
At this rate, it'll take them a year to roll out everywhere.
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First of all, thanks guys for giving me time answering my stupid question lol, I've ran out of thanks and I promise I'll give you thanks back later!
So yeah why the fvck did samsht announced that they would be releasing the 4.4.2 update so early as last month if they can't even roll out as soon as possible? that's insane it's almost a month now and the update is not even rolling out here (btw I live in Manila, Ph)
I agree with @FloatingFatMan, they should have not told people what the REAL thing of the release schedule was :silly: talking about France and India, omfg lol we can now really foretell the future that it would probably take them for years to completely release the update world wide :silly: Google is preparing to release the 4.4.3 update and samsht is still smoking weeds to think about the update I wonder what will my friend think about this lol. I actually told her that rooting is the best thing that would happen on her device, encouraging her to flash CM11 on it but she's sick of these things haha, she's scared of bricking her phone lol but I told her that I'm the one that will gonna guide her doing those stuff, but it all ended up saying NO ahaha.

JovieBrett said:
First of all, thanks guys for giving me time answering my stupid question lol, I've ran out of thanks and I promise I'll give you thanks back later!
So yeah why the fvck did samsht announced that they would be releasing the 4.4.2 update so early as last month if they can't even roll out as soon as possible? that's insane it's almost a month now and the update is not even rolling out here (btw I live in Manila, Ph)
I agree with @FloatingFatMan, they should have not told people what the REAL thing of the release schedule was :silly: talking about France and India, omfg lol we can now really foretell the future that it would probably take them for years to completely release the update world wide :silly: Google is preparing to release the 4.4.3 update and samsht is still smoking weeds to think about the update I wonder what will my friend think about this lol.
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Well check the update OTA or via kies since you are in Manila.
Talking about 4.4.3 by Google I doubt it would bring anything major to phones except bug fixes that plagued the Nexus devices.The more bigger announcement would be at the Google I/O when we might hear about Android 4.5 or 5 ,who knows and this might be the very last update we would get from Samsung/Google judging by the 2 year policy of Google to support devices
Mabuhay (I am not Pinoy)

singhpratik87 said:
Well check the update OTA or via kies since you are in Manila.
Mabuhay (I am not Pinoy)
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Already tried that for a few times, still no response :| we've actually did some dumb shts on her phone like clearing the 'google services framework' (which is a workaround forcing OTA update to receive on Nexus phones) and we end up screwing her phone lol, still not working :silly:
Yeah I agree, it's almost a half a month now before Google I/O will start and I don't think that they will possibly release a bug fix update (4.4.3) on a short amount of time before they actually release a major update on IO.

JovieBrett said:
Already tried that for a few times, still no response :| we've actually did some dumb shts on her phone like clearing the 'google services framework' (which is a workaround forcing OTA update to receive on Nexus phones) and we end up screwing her phone lol, still not working :silly:
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Nice of her to still trust you with her note II in the hope it won't be messed up this time around.Oh well I am sure in few days time you'll get notified ota if not then do what you do best.Mess up her phone..LOL

singhpratik87 said:
Nice of her to still trust you with her note II in the hope it won't be messed up this time around.Oh well I am sure in few days time you'll get notified ota if not then do what you do best.Mess up her phone..LOL
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Well, it's her choice and she doesn't care what I am really actually doing on her phone lol, she's trusting me, our frienship would only break if her phone won't boot anymore past the bootlogo hahaha.

My friend told me the OTA came earlier ago in the morning, thanks guys!

JovieBrett said:
Hi guys so I'm helping my friend's Note 2 to manually update it to KK via kies cause OTA is still not available when checking on 'Check for updates' (Yeah it's over a month now and the update is still not there! freaky sam****)
So our problem is the kies dashboard just displays 'Latest firmware' for her device and we cannot see any other option to check updates for KK on kies, that is just stupid :/ Her Note 2 is on JB 4.3, so my question is, is there any possible way on how to get rid of that 'Latest firmware' label on her device via Samsung Kies to be able to get the latest update?
If you're going to say about ODIN or any geeky things to do, she won't allow it lol, she's sick of that, she just wants to upgrade it manually over the kies.
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according to samsung...only india and france available~~~

When will we get 4.4.3?

It's already been out for 6 hours, when will we get 4.4.3... Samsung? HELLO?

2 weeks
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4.4 havent been rolled out to all countries yet and already shouting for 4.4.3? HELLO?
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siralsmooth said:
2 weeks
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you're right =)).

FANdroid said:
It's already been out for 6 hours, when will we get 4.4.3... Samsung? HELLO?
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Very soon my Brother.
At least a month prior to S5 getting its 4.4.5 updates.

Chainwater said:
Very soon my Brother.
At least a month prior to S5 getting its 4.4.5 updates.
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At which time Android 5.0 (Creampuff) will be out.... :silly::laugh:

Since the majority is still waiting for 4.4.2, I suppose may 2015
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dt33 said:
4.4 hasn't been rolled out to all countries yet and already there's shouting for 4.4.3? HELLO?
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Well, we have it in the US, I'm sorry your country doesn't, but don't begrudge us because we have it After years of having to wait on other countries, particularly Europe for the latest and greatest in mobile gear and software, it's kinda nice for a change to be on top over here

californiarailroader said:
Well, we have it in the US, I'm sorry your country doesn't, but don't begrudge us because we have it After years of having to wait on other countries, particularly Europe for the latest and greatest in mobile gear and software, it's kinda nice for a change to be on top over here
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I live in Sweden and 4.4 NEE SMP605 was released first of all countries? ?
Mine point is, all these threads about when will we get 4.4, than it released and peoples wants 4.4.3.
Sure next thread is about when do we get android 5.0 when 4.4.3 release for Note 2014. ?
Galaxy Note SM-P605

By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3 :victory::highfive:

It comes when it comes whatever it shall be. In the meantime there is a life to be led.

HAHAHAHA~
Thinking too much,guy...I think it well go Android4.5,maybe call Lollipop

ultramag69 said:
At which time Android 5.0 (Creampuff) will be out.... :silly::laugh:
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Why does this name (Creampuff) give me an idea of fart after anal sex?

valexi said:
Why does this name (Creampuff) give me an idea of fart after anal sex?
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Cos the idea we'll get Android 5.0 on the Note 10.1 2014 is a load of fragrant hot air?

Now waiting for 4.4.4..
Come on Samsung, don't keep us waiting.

4.4.3 is just a very minor bug fixing update from 4.4.2. At least we got Kit kat with an updated Samsung skin on top as well. That's honestly a much bigger deal than getting 4.4.3. Now all we need is a stellar ROM packed with some nice tweaks and features. The upcoming Hyperdrive ROM by Sbreen looks to be it.

They'll probably skip 4.4.4 and just go to 5.0.2 in December. Hopefully there's a maintenance update to fix the video bugs in 4.4.2.

Why shouldn't we expect Updates
>>By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3
Why shouldn't we expect updates. If I buy a laptop with windows I get updates (in the case of my old xp machine for over 10 years) granted my hp or dell support has long since lapsed but I can still update the operating system for bug fixes and enhancements ect..
If I buy an iPad I get updates in the case of my wife for over 4 years now.
So My question is why should Samsung or the android tablet market function any differently?

Samsung_note_2014 said:
>>By samsung-policy wise, galaxy note will be out of its 18 month support period so no 4.4.3
Why shouldn't we expect updates. If I buy a laptop with windows I get updates (in the case of my old xp machine for over 10 years) granted my hp or dell support has long since lapsed but I can still update the operating system for bug fixes and enhancements ect..
If I buy an iPad I get updates in the case of my wife for over 4 years now.
So My question is why should Samsung or the android tablet market function any differently?
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Iphone 3GS/4/4S and Ipad 2//3 did get updates to iOS6/7, probably iOS8/iOS9 too.
Did all these got all new features and works flawless with new updates? Siri was left out on IP4.
Go google on how it worked and u got u answer.

Samsung, like almost all manufacturers, for almost all devices, uses to provide a single major update, and that was Kitkat. LG seems to be special. They can manage to provide two dozen "micro updates", seemingly only fixing baseband issues affecting operation with certain providers in certain countries. No fix list, but that was the purpose of Nokia updates in the past.
My LG L9 got an update from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2 one and a half years ago, from v10x to version v20a. This went up to v20p since, and there was never the slightest noticeable difference. Even a small wifi bug remains present since v20a.

T-Mobile USA LP OTA

Has ANYONE gotten it yet? I feel like I've been reading "You should get the OTA any day now" stories online for a couple months now, and still NOTHING! I am curious if ANYONE has actually gotten it that's on T-Mobile in the US.

Elvis_Marmaduke said:
Has ANYONE gotten it yet? I feel like I've been reading "You should get the OTA any day now" stories online for a couple months now, and still NOTHING! I am curious if ANYONE has actually gotten it that's on T-Mobile in the US.
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You can rest assured that if it were available there would be a version of it posted here on xda. When it is it will be on here within moments of the devs getting their hands on it or anyone for that matter.

Have you read the correct ones vause what ive seen says that us carriers wont start pushing anything till almost march

The Galaxy S5 got the lollipop 5.0 update in the USA. Thanks LG, while you're busy releasing the update for users in Nigeria, the enthusiasts in the USA are still stuck on KitKat... mine boggling......
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I'd not LG's fault. In the US the carriers test the software, have LG put their own software on the phone and then test done more. They are the cause if the delay, and with T-mobile they at have Wi-Fi calling so probably even more delay to test that.

Good to know, but I was wondering because I was going back to stock, but course leaving it rooted, but then there was an update. Was that the update that we're all waiting for? or is it just a minor update I think I saw something like 247MB don't know if thats correct but I was going to unroot my phone just to get that update, but thats not Lollipop right?

Alrighty then so... Thanks T-mobile....
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I think that tweet from LG USA was designed to put pressure on the carriers to hasten the release. Unfortunately for LG this may backfire on them. Most people think phone manufactueres are responsible for timely release of updates. US carriers need to add their bloatware and wi-fi calling in T-mobiles case to the new update. LG's part is done. Call your local branches and bug the crap out of them.

What is so great about lollipop? Xposed doesnt work with it among other things. I would not update even if it was available right now.

glcK23 said:
The Galaxy S5 got the lollipop 5.0 update in the USA. Thanks LG, while you're busy releasing the update for users in Nigeria, the enthusiasts in the USA are still stuck on KitKat... mine boggling......
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Personally, I find it mind boggling that you would blame LG and not T-Mobile. Talk about blaming the wrong party.
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bigcletus said:
What is so great about lollipop? Xposed doesnt work with it among other things. I would not update even if it was available right now.
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I'm with you. I have no interest.

Okay then I blame everyone. Better?
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Just saw news , sprint is getting on Feb 16. We might get before that

So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.

Id think thay would be a fair assesment. So before mar 1 we could plan to see a roll out or at least definite word

bikrame said:
Just saw news , sprint is getting on Feb 16. We might get before that
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That'd be nice

stratus1011 said:
So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
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I would think this means the update is hitting phones on the 10th or 11th. Normally they keep the old update rolling until they hot swap with the new one. I would imagine only hours of downtime for updates if they don't hot swap. Then again some people still haven't received the ota notification yet... Who knows?

stratus1011 said:
So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
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I would think this means the update is hitting phones on the 10th or 11th. Normally they keep the old update rolling until they hot swap with the new one. I would imagine only hours of downtime for updates if they don't hot swap. Then again some people still haven't received the ota notification yet... Who knows?
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Sorry to kill the hype, but afaik that date doesn't mean anything.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-otas-doesnt-mean-what-you-may-wish-it-meant/
And OTA rolls out in stages, that's why not everyone is getting the OTA notification.

HTC M8 is getting it on the 8th, so in this case the date mentioned sounds like it could be true
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qbanlinxx said:
HTC M8 is getting it on the 8th, so in this case the date mentioned sounds like it could be true
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And yet there is no ETA for lollipop on the S5 (as for T-mobile variant). Judging the ETA for update for the LG G3 from the update intended for another device from another manufacturer is very immature.
Don't get me wrong, I would want 5.0 on my G3 asap, but I just want to point our that that date is irrelevant, just as the post from AP I linked suggested.

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And yet there is no ETA for lollipop on the S5 (as for T-mobile variant). Judging the ETA for update for the LG G3 from the update intended for another device from another manufacturer is very immature.
Don't get me wrong, I would want 5.0 on my G3 asap, but I just want to point our that that date is irrelevant, just as the post from AP I linked suggested.
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Nobody asked nor cares what your opinion is to my post.
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Lollipop officially rolling out... on Sprint.

Lollipop update is officially rolling out on Sprint Devices, so hopefully we're next/soon.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/blogs/de...int-enhanced-with-android-lollipop-update.htm

Seeing how close the devs are to getting this device root I suggest holding off on accepting the update when it does roll out.

we already know from this topic
there is one topic already. why to start new one ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/lollipop-note-4-due-soon-t2913780

hiverli said:
we already know from this topic
there is one topic already. why to start new one ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/lollipop-note-4-due-soon-t2913780
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Because that's what people do here. That and start threads asking if there's root, or when Lollipop is coming to our version. Or come up with conspiracy theories as to why we don't yet have Lollipop. Or...
Well, you get it. Lol

Jspex said:
Seeing how close the devs are to getting this device root I suggest holding off on accepting the update when it does roll out.
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It's safe to say: Root is not coming. I would jump on Lollipop asap. Anything is better than the current lag on this phone. Hopefully its less Samsung customed like how they did the New S6.
I also have a Tmobile rooted also, so I know how laggy the AT&T version is. Heck, my Moto G (2014) is snappier.

hiverli said:
we already know from this topic
there is one topic already. why to start new one ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/lollipop-note-4-due-soon-t2913780
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This is official and rolling out now. News update, not a "it's coming someday" thing. Maybe I'll start a "Android M (Mars bar) is coming..." thread.

madmike23 said:
It's safe to say: Root is not coming. I would jump on Lollipop asap. Anything is better than the current lag on this phone. Hopefully its less Samsung customed like how they did the New S6.
I also have a Tmobile rooted also, so I know how laggy the AT&T version is. Heck, my Moto G (2014) is snappier.
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I can't wait for everyone that posts this defeatist statement to jump to 5+ then come back and complain and cry when we have root and they dont. Good luck with 5+ and I will silently chuckle when I see your posts down the road on how 5+ sucks.

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I can't wait for everyone that posts this defeatist statement to jump to 5+ then come back and complain and cry when we have root and they dont. Good luck with 5+ and I will silently chuckle when I see your posts down the road on how 5+ sucks.
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As far as I know the devs had a pretty major breakthrough last night. ...? Right?

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As far as I know the devs had a pretty major breakthrough last night. ...? Right?
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Yes, 2 poc finds. While we're still not exactly at root every day brings us closer.

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Yes, 2 poc finds. While we're still not exactly at root every day brings us closer.
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It not really familiar with proof of concept when related to android, do they generally lead somewhere or could these mean nothing?

AT&T Galaxy Note 5 forgotten

AT&T is a disgrace! Why haven't they updated the Note 5 yet when every other carrier has done so weeks and months ago. Even the Galaxy S5, a 2 year old phone is now getting the update on other carriers. I will definitely be switching carriers soon and I advise everyone to do the same.

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AT&T is a disgrace! Why haven't they updated the Note 5 yet when every other carrier has done so weeks and months ago. Even the Galaxy S5, a 2 year old phone is now getting the update on other carriers. I will definitely be switching carriers soon and I advise everyone to do the same.
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glennw2ns said:
AT&T is a disgrace! Why haven't they updated the Note 5 yet when every other carrier has done so weeks and months ago. Even the Galaxy S5, a 2 year old phone is now getting the update on other carriers.
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Dude, chill. I've been happily running the leaked 6.0.1 release since last week. It's nice, but it's not essential.
I will definitely be switching carriers soon and I advise everyone to do the same.
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Your purchasing habits are not my concern. As for your advice, I will not be abandoning my grandfathered unlimited data plan in order to throw a tantrum about a delayed minor improvement.

Gary02468 said:
Dude, chill. I've been happily running the leaked 6.0.1 release since last week. It's nice, but it's not essential.
Your purchasing habits are not my concern. As for your advice, I will not be abandoning my grandfathered unlimited data plan in order to throw a tantrum about a delayed minor improvement.
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Hey. I'm with you..
Long , long time ago in fare Galaxy S7 Edge.

I don't think he cares what your data plan is or the fact you chose to sideload an update that isn't available through the network we pay for. I'm almost certain he was expressing his disdain for a company he is paying a good deal of money to and getting little from in return.
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People like us that worry about an update is about 1% of the total sales of a Note series phone. ATT losing you means nothing let alone the about 100 people that care. People switch carriers daily, losing 1 and picking up another will happen in about 1 second.
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Thanks for the info, I already saw this but am afraid to try it. It sounds complicated and risky.

glennw2ns said:
Thanks for the info, I already saw this but am afraid to try it. It sounds complicated and risky.
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Super simple as long as you have adb, usb drivers and the zip file. Just place the ADB and zip files in the same folder and launch a command prompt from that same directory. Took about 25 minutes to install and so far smooth sailing.

Thanks for the info but you lost me at adb lol. And having to back everything up sounds scary as well as not knowing if this would void the warranty

glennw2ns said:
Thanks for the info but you lost me at adb lol. And having to back everything up sounds scary as well as not knowing if this would void the warranty
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...lol
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xeni0o said:
Super simple as long as you have adb, usb drivers and the zip file. Just place the ADB and zip files in the same folder and launch a command prompt from that same directory. Took about 25 minutes to install and so far smooth sailing.
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Super simple turned in to me downloading all sorts of programs and resetting my phone about a dozen times yesterday. End result is I'm waiting for the official update. I can rebuild an engine with my eyes closed. Sideloading OS upgrades on my phone? Not so much.

So unbelievably, I received a software update this morning which turned out to be nothing more than a security update. Still waiting.

glennw2ns said:
So unbelievably, I received a software update this morning which turned out to be nothing more than a security update.
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That update has been discussed here for days. It's even got its own thread.

Just sideboard the update.

My brother has a Sprint S5. They've updated that old thing to Marshmallow.
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Update is FINALLY rolling out. Downloading it now.

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glennw2ns said:
Update is FINALLY rolling out. Downloading it now.
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AT&T just posted the same file we all side uploaded today on their note 5 support page from " File size: PB2 > PE6 = 1350MB, PE3 > PE6 = 1370MB" Whats the point of downgrading to upgrade OTA

glennw2ns said:
Update is FINALLY rolling out. Downloading it now.
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What you mean download now. I'm running this update for last month.

norbarb said:
What you mean download now. I'm running this update for last month.
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Not the official one from AT&T. They just released it today. You must have sideloaded it

glennw2ns said:
Not the official one from AT&T. They just released it today. You must have sideloaded it
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Well, they're the same. The ota and sideloaded file have been compared and they are identical. This what he means.