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Finally No GB for Our Bravo!! Even at the End of July:(

As we all know HTC promised that GB will come out for bravo at the end of July. But now since its August HTC again Failed.
What a pathetic way to treat the PHONE OF THE YEAR for 2009/10.
No more HTC. Here i come GOOGLE/APPLE(At least we get the promised update on time unlike Fuc*ing HTC)

htcdesire2 said:
as we all know htc promised that gb will come out for bravo at the end of july. But now since its august htc again failed.
What a pathetic way to treat the phone of the year for 2009/10.
No more htc. Here i come google/apple(at least we get the promised update on time unlike fuc*ing htc)
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ok please stop doing this!!!!

It's still July in Europe. You need to learn about time zones. Furthermore, go find a dark corner to rant in and mind your language.

TVTV said:
It's still July in Europe. You need to learn about time zones. Furthermore, go find a dark corner to rant in and mind your language.
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Hehe i think am fine with my language, as long as HTC is involved

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Whats the point of this thread?

Haxxler said:
Whats the point of this thread?
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"no more htc", like me

Guess what, life will continue even without gingerbread...

FoRmaTiTo said:
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They are very active. But i hope this post is in correct section.

ezekionokia said:
Guess what, life will continue even without gingerbread...
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Yes sure. I am on GB from last 6 months. But i am just concerned about the words from HTC.

HtcDesire2 said:
As we all know HTC promised that GB will come out for bravo at the end of July. But now since its August HTC again Failed.
What a pathetic way to treat the PHONE OF THE YEAR for 2009/10.
No more HTC. Here i come GOOGLE/APPLE(At least we get the promised update on time unlike Fuc*ing HTC)
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Cool story, bro.

Terepin

Enjoy the exact same update policy from Samsung, or The Beautiful, Exciting, Ingenious Walled Garden from Apple, OP

HtcDesire2 said:
As we all know HTC promised that GB will come out for bravo at the end of July. But now since its August HTC again Failed.
What a pathetic way to treat the PHONE OF THE YEAR for 2009/10.
No more HTC. Here i come GOOGLE/APPLE(At least we get the promised update on time unlike Fuc*ing HTC)
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Oh never HTC? Are you out of your mind?... Just because HTC got a day or 2 late makes u feel uncomfortable enough that.u won't buy most reliable brand?...
Talk of Sony.. I bought X10 mini launched in 2 010, they didn't even update that to Froyo...
Yeah.. The wait was excitement for a better software... I kept my phone running one Rom for 2 months... I don't waiting a day or 2 more...
There must be solid reason they got a bit late... I can imagine what could be going through their developers...
Just relax.. Chill out... Wait another day or 2...
at least they announced that u will get update...unlike sony who strictly said..No Updates...

Talk about Apple...I had the Iphone for more than 2 years. The updates to the OS never bring something really new, the main reason I figured Apple does then is to keep the phones locked. At least Android is much more flexible. You cannot compare a huge company like Apple that has to develop an update for just one product to an update for Android that has to be adapted for hundreds of different devices.
Actually this whole gingerbread fuss is becoming funny after a while...The only reason I want to have the official update is to see if it will be more battery efficient. I am runnning different Gingerbread Roms ( with Sense because I really like the integration) for a few months now and none of them really brought more battery life to my phone...

jjdoctor said:
Oh never HTC? Are you out of your mind?... Just because HTC got a day or 2 late makes u feel uncomfortable enough that.u won't buy most reliable brand?...
Talk of Sony.. I bought X10 mini launched in 2 010, they didn't even update that to Froyo...
Yeah.. The wait was excitement for a better software... I kept my phone running one Rom for 2 months... I don't waiting a day or 2 more...
There must be solid reason they got a bit late... I can imagine what could be going through their developers...
Just relax.. Chill out... Wait another day or 2...
at least they announced that u will get update...unlike sony who strictly said..No Updates...
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he don´t have to wait he just needs to jump out of the window 5 sek later he will see quad core phones with android 6.0 etc np in heaven LOL

the real question is: what do you want ? and what you cant get with desire ?
our developers in xda are working every day for great roms & updates. and greatest is everything free!!

For what is this thread ?

rail123 said:
"no more htc", like me
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Good riddance. Both of you.
I have seen the amount of highlanders HTC support has to deal with daily in the past few days and I genuinely feel sorry for them.

Well at least you can root the phone and use a custom rom to get gingerbread now. Wait, you are using a custom rom - why are you complaining?

Coming from Sensation to SGS3

I don't think I ever been so anxious to get a phone as much as I am to get the Galaxy S3 later on this month. When I first laid my hands on it during the summer, I already knew I wanted it. I'm coming from the HTC Sensation, one of my favorite phones. Anything I should know about the Galaxy (I've done my research,know how to flash/root,etc.)?

That it's awesome, any more brain busters?
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Skip-Breezy said:
I don't think I ever been so anxious to get a phone as much as I am to get the Galaxy S3 later on this month. When I first laid my hands on it during the summer, I already knew I wanted it. I'm coming from the HTC Sensation, one of my favorite phones. Anything I should know about the Galaxy (I've done my research,know how to flash/root,etc.)?
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I just made the exact same transition. No firmware to match with ROM's, just have to match up the radio.
One of the biggest differences for me was just how thin the phone was compared to the sensation. It's tough to hold the Sensation now.

Just make sure to back up your IMEI number as soon as you get the phone and have fun there's a lot of stuff to flash here. Your in luck too, cyanogen him self owns this phone and is getting ready to release 4.2 jelly bean nightly soon.

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Just make sure to back up your IMEI number as soon as you get the phone and have fun there's a lot of stuff to flash here. Your in luck too, cyanogen him self owns this phone and is getting ready to release 4.2 jelly bean nightly soon.
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Back up the IMEI number...how to do that?

Skip-Breezy said:
Back up the IMEI number...how to do that?
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check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29461950

I made this same change just a month ago and I love the s3. One of the biggest difference is changing radios is MUCH easier, no more going into the bootloader and flashing the radio, with the s3 they are called "modems" and you flash it just like you do with a rom. Bigger screen obviously, but also better sound and volume through the speaker. WAY faster in general use, even rooted and overclocked my sensation was still slower than my underclocked s3. There are just as many if not more custom rom's for the s3 and everybody makes accessories for it.

I'm getting the GS3...just waiting to find a good holiday deal on it

Skip-Breezy said:
I'm getting the GS3...just waiting to find a good holiday deal on it
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The Sensation was a great phone though. Ahead of it's time. I was sad when I sold mine.

se1000 said:
The Sensation was a great phone though. Ahead of it's time. I was sad when I sold mine.
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as did i. but i did get pretty good resale value out of it, paid 250 and sold it for 200 after 9 or 10 months. was a really good phone but honestly, if you enjoyed your sensation you will LOVE the s3:good:

[Q] New HTC One X

I just got a new HTC One X. What apps, themes, anything should I get. Should I root or not root. Any help or info at all on this device would be nice and appreciated. Thanks

If your worried about warrenty, don't root. But I'd advise you to wait for a year.
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Alright. Thank you

I unlocked/rooted mine from force of habit rather than necessity, tbh stock is fast enough. The only true benefits are adblock and backup, I'd say.

sinkster said:
I unlocked/rooted mine from force of habit rather than necessity, tbh stock is fast enough. The only true benefits are adblock and backup, I'd say.
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Depends how you look at it lol, with custom roms for example you can do pretty much anything you want i'll just give you few screenshots of my phone but don't get dragged into rooting yet, wait for at least 1-2 months just to be sure your device doesn't have any defects.

As soon as opened the box I unlocked boot loader and rooted, 10 months ago and had no issues. I suppose it's boils down to how lucky do you feel?
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cronus101 said:
If your worried about warrenty, don't root. But I'd advise you to wait for a year.
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Lol. Sorry. I ment 1 month, just to make sure you have no defects.
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Shan89 said:
Depends how you look at it lol, with custom roms for example you can do pretty much anything you want i'll just give you few screenshots of my phone but don't get dragged into rooting yet, wait for at least 1-2 months just to be sure your device doesn't have any defects.
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That looks nice. Yeah I'm gonna wait to root. But when I root, will I be able to just use Rom Manager for Roms?

HTC One X won’t receive any further updates

So guys finally its official:
HTC OneX and OneX + will not receive any further updates.
Its officially announced by HTC now.
"We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences. -HTC"
Update: the only HTC One X variant that will be updated to Android 4.3 is the HTC EVO 4G LTE on Sprint.
Further Reading:
http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/htc-one-x-and-x-wont-receive-updates-beyond-android-4-2-2/
Share your thoughts on this freely..

http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/01/13/htc-one-x-updates
The guys at pocketnow mentioned it too. Kinda sad but I don't care that much as I would use CM11 instead of the Sense KitKat anyways.
But this just confirmed what I expected and so this will definitely be my last HTC device. Too bad I liked the build quality.
Nexus 5 here I come <3
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Well. Its a quad core it could not handle android 4.4. Wait cm is running great. Well they would need a big team to update to kk. Wait thomy updated to cm kk all by himself.
All these just proves that htc did not learn anything. thought they could be it you know the company that cares trying to give out the best for the lowest price and keep it updated as long as possible. Instead they are just like everybody else.
My dad bought a samsung tv today. It could not run the youtube app no matter what. I called samsung and they said it is not a problem from their side but from the developers of the app. Ok so f off and tnx for false advertisement (for 2 months). Then the wifi would not work. Called them again they said if it isnt 5m from the router (visual distance) it wont work. Which actually means hey you have a really crappy wifi chip so thats how we protect ourselves so we dont need to replace it.
Dont know where im going with it? I think that if we dont stand up to the industry and demand changes like i dont know a htc xda program for example or everyone slaps ceo of samsung for everytime youtube wont start, we are going to end up in a ditch from where we will not be able to come out. For christ sake i cant even connect a htc phone to a samsung tv anymore. And that should be normal???
Sorry bad day big rant but i am worried.
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and313 said:
Well. Its a quad core it could not handle android 4.4. Wait cm is running great. Well they would need a big team to update to kk. Wait thomy updated to cm kk all by himself.
All these just proves that htc did not learn anything. thought they could be it you know the company that cares trying to give out the best for the lowest price and keep it updated as long as possible. Instead they are just like everybody else.
My dad bought a samsung tv today. It could not run the youtube app no matter what. I called samsung and they said it is not a problem from their side but from the developers of the app. Ok so f off and tnx for false advertisement (for 2 months). Then the wifi would not work. Called them again they said if it isnt 5m from the router (visual distance) it wont work. Which actually means hey you have a really crappy wifi chip so thats how we protect ourselves so we dont need to replace it.
Dont know where im going with it? I think that if we dont stand up to the industry and demand changes like i dont know a htc xda program for example or everyone slaps ceo of samsung for everytime youtube wont start, we are going to end up in a ditch from where we will not be able to come out. For christ sake i cant even connect a htc phone to a samsung tv anymore. And that should be normal???
Sorry bad day big rant but i am worried.
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f#cking nvidia doesn't support it anymore...htc would update...the htc evo 4g lte is getting it...strange that the xl won't get it even when it has the snapdragon but hm...will still try to get htc one ...or even the one+/one²

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f#cking nvidia doesn't support it anymore...htc would update...the htc evo 4g lte is getting it...strange that the xl won't get it even when it has the snapdragon but hm...will still try to get htc one ...or even the one+/one²
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Then why thomy can update to kk and htc cant? I know there is a lot of paperwork and everything else (nvidias bull****) but... Common
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and313 said:
Then why thomy can update to kk and htc cant? I know there is a lot of paperwork and everything else (nvidias bull****) but... Common
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the OEM will only update if the SoC manufacturer is updaeting and still supporting the SoC...so because nvidia won't update our kernel htc wouldn't update too ...and to fix most issues we need newer kernel from them,..atleast 3.4.x so that really ALL will work fine with sense and even without...really bulls'it

One-X-master said:
the OEM will only update if the SoC manufacturer is updaeting and still supporting the SoC...so because nvidia won't update our kernel htc wouldn't update too ...and to fix most issues we need newer kernel from them,..atleast 3.4.x so that really ALL will work fine with sense and even without...really bulls'it
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If so then the tegra nexus 7 wont get 4.4.2 either? It is still on 3.1 kernel
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and313 said:
If so then the tegra nexus 7 wont get 4.4.2 either? It is still on 3.1 kernel
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don't know it's a nexus for htc it will be too much work i think if they use old kernel...ah i don't know...really sad...but look at the one...it got so many updates ...htc is now changing with the new One series their way of updating and support

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don't know it's a nexus for htc it will be too much work i think if they use old kernel...ah i don't know...really sad...but look at the one...it got so many updates ...htc is now changing with the new One series their way of updating and support
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Well i thought you knew if someone can enlighten me with that i would be thankful. Yeah it is getting updates just like our hox did until the one came out so we will see what will happen
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and313 said:
Well i thought you knew if someone can enlighten me with that i would be thankful. Yeah it is getting updates just like our hox did until the one came out so we will see what will happen
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But i really think it has to do with nvidia tegra...
And the one already got nearly more and faster updates...the snapdragon is just good supported...but yea we will see
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Its a hard lesson learnt, only buy Qualcomm based chipset phones from now on. nVidia gives fancy names to their chipsets, however they are pathetic when it comes to supporting their chipset.

I think it has to do with HTC also.. Dont blame just nvidia. if HTC wanted they could have updated the phone as fas as i know. Thomy's ROM is working fine on hox and so does slimkat. Why don't HTC discuss it out with nvidia and both could have worked hard to give an update.
But see they both (HTC and nvidia) dont give support to old devices and try to work hard on throwing new devices every then and now. If they would have worked that hard (or even less than that) on giving support to hox, it might be a good decision..
Hox is a solid performing device which HTC d#tched early..
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I bought this device to HTC, not to Nvidia. It is HTC responsability to update it.
Google nexus 7 has the same tegra3, and is perfectly working with kit kat.
First months, HTC also gives lots of updates to the oneX, saying they had changed its updating politic. Now, they said this. To bad, HTC. This is my 5th device, and I cant give you anoother chance anymore. I love all of my HTC phones, but this is my last one.

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I bought this device to HTC, not to Nvidia. It is HTC responsability to update it.
Google nexus 7 has the same tegra3, and is perfectly working with kit kat.
First months, HTC also gives lots of updates to the oneX, saying they had changed its updating politic. Now, they said this. To bad, HTC. This is my 5th device, and I cant give you anoother chance anymore. I love all of my HTC phones, but this is my last one.
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat. The only thing HTC currently needs is more money to provide support to older devices...
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat. The only thing HTC currently needs is more money to provide support to older devices...
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The only giveaway on how htc will handle updates is when the new phone comes out. Our hox was perfectly supported till the one came out dont you remember?
And thomy did the update to kk all by himself so i dont think money is the problem here.
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and313 said:
The only giveaway on how htc will handle updates is when the new phone comes out. Our hox was perfectly supported till the one came out dont you remember?
And thomy did the update to kk all by himself so i dont think money is the problem here.
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Yeah, htc is just shifting it's focus from one device to another...
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat.
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It's not enough to look good for the first year until the next device comes out and then suddenly drop almost all support. What happened with the Desire models, Sensation models and now HOX models will also happen to the One when the next "flagship" is announced.
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They sure as hell aren't getting that money from me.

I see a main cause that HTC decided to not update our phone anymore in the fact that 90% of the users of a phone are just the basic users, who just leave everything on their phone as it was delivered. Only thing I see my friends changing on their Android phones are the wallpaper and their app shortcuts. Some of them change their widgets, some don't. And out of my whole circle of friends I am the only one who knows what a custom ROM is and what the most up to date Android version is. So why should HTC Update our device any further if the only people really concerning about these updates are "those geeks over at xda developers". If things were the other way around and 90% of the HOX owners around the world would trample HTCs HQ for not updating our phone and would take the same step as me and were not going to buy any other HTC phone anymore they would sure as hell update it to KK.
But as people dont do so, why should they update it.

The thing is that old versions of Android also mean more security concerns and possible app compatability issues in the future. Things like this are a concern for the average user and not so much us who know how to tinker with custom roms.
And my friends who have Android phones and who I'd call average users complain about lack of upgrades just as much as me. They still want their phones to have the newest features, up to date looks and all that. HTC being so horrible with updates means that people recognize then as a company with lack of support. And people don't pay hundreds of dollars/euros for just more than one years worth of support.

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I see a main cause that HTC decided to not update our phone anymore in the fact that 90% of the users of a phone are just the basic users, who just leave everything on their phone as it was delivered. Only thing I see my friends changing on their Android phones are the wallpaper and their app shortcuts. Some of them change their widgets, some don't. And out of my whole circle of friends I am the only one who knows what a custom ROM is and what the most up to date Android version is. So why should HTC Update our device any further if the only people really concerning about these updates are "those geeks over at xda developers". If things were the other way around and 90% of the HOX owners around the world would trample HTCs HQ for not updating our phone and would take the same step as me and were not going to buy any other HTC phone anymore they would sure as hell update it to KK.
But as people dont do so, why should they update it.
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It's not like that. You don't see Samsung or Motorola not updating their old devices just because 90% of the users don't complain.
Samsung is going to update S3 to kitkat. and motorola has already confirmed that old devices are receiving kitkat. those devices don't even have large user base like that of HOX.
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It's not enough to look good for the first year until the next device comes out and then suddenly drop almost all support. What happened with the Desire models, Sensation models and now HOX models will also happen to the One when the next "flagship" is announced.
They sure as hell aren't getting that money from me.
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Let's wait and see what happens to the One after its successor in announced.

Buying M8

Hello there
Is it worth buying the HTC one m8? It checks all my boxes (32GB internal + SD card + development + 250€) but with some people they say it's outdated and wait for next year. I'd like to hear your opinions.
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Depends on your own opinion if it's outdated, In some eyes it is and others don't. My opinion is that it is not outdated for me. The phone handles my needs very well.
Of course you can wait for next year and get a new flagship of whatever brand you like but it will cost you much more also.
All i can say is to test one M8 for yourself and decide for yourself if it's worth it.

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Depends on your own opinion if it's outdated, In some eyes it is and others don't. My opinion is that it is not outdated for me. The phone handles my needs very well.
Of course you can wait for next year and get a new flagship of whatever brand you like but it will cost you much more also.
All i can say is to test one M8 for yourself and decide for yourself if it's worth it.
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I don't think its outdated, it is a whole lot better than my moto g (1st gen) I would like this phone to last at least 3 or so years before I get a new phone.
I must find someone that has a m8 and test it out
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bublz654 said:
I don't think its outdated, it is a whole lot better than my moto g (1st gen) I would like this phone to last at least 3 or so years before I get a new phone.
I must find someone that has a m8 and test it out
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Maybe ask in a phone-shop nearby, play with it for a bit.