I currently have a Note 2 on an unlimited family plan add-a-line, a Samsung 7.0+ on a 3 gig, $10 data plan that the store rep ASSURES me is grandfathered, and an AT&T Nokia 520 (best $40 phone ever!) as a backup. I'd like to add a bigger data enabled tablet into the mix but I'm undecided whether to get a 5100 to occasionally swap my phone sim into OR an AT&T model to replace the 7.0+ on the data line. I've also considered the international Tab 3 8.0 (T311) instead of the 5100.
I live in Chicago, a strong LTE and 1900 city (AWS HSPA seems to be getting worse though). I've also considered a Nexus 7 LTE thorough T-Mobile (Wi-Fi price!) but don't think it'd be a huge improvement for the money spent over what I already have. Roms and development don't matter much to me, just root for Adaway, Cerberus, and some de-bloating. I'm also not a gamer beyond Tetris. The S-pen is handy for the basketball leagues I work but I think I could work around that. I average 10 gigs a month, almost all through Netflix.
5100's and T311's are hard to find used and are running about 400 and 320 respectively new on Amazon. Used AT&T Note 8's are much more common and seem to go for around 250 on Swappa, often with a case.
I've also read that T-Mobile seems to view the AT&T Note 8 as a phone though it doesn't make cellular calls (does it have sms ability? I really like that option on my 7.0+) and the 5100 as either a phone or tablet.
Any thoughts on battery life as a phone or anything else about my idea? I've had a hard time finding battery stats on specifically the cellular models; my Note 2 has spoiled me!
If I do get one of the voice enabled tablets I could see going between just that and Nokia (as a compact option, also much easier to swap sims than with my Defender wrapped Note 2!) and not having a data only line.
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I currently have a Note 2 on an unlimited family plan add-a-line, a Samsung 7.0+ on a 3 gig, $10 data plan that the store rep ASSURES me is grandfathered, and an AT&T Nokia 520 (best $40 phone ever!) as a backup. I'd like to add a bigger data enabled tablet into the mix but I'm undecided whether to get a 5100 to occasionally swap my phone sim into OR an AT&T model to replace the 7.0+ on the data line. I've also considered the international Tab 3 8.0 (T311) instead of the 5100.
I live in Chicago, a strong LTE and 1900 city (AWS HSPA seems to be getting worse though). I've also considered a Nexus 7 LTE thorough T-Mobile (Wi-Fi price!) but don't think it'd be a huge improvement for the money spent over what I already have. Roms and development don't matter much to me, just root for Adaway, Cerberus, and some de-bloating. I'm also not a gamer beyond Tetris. The S-pen is handy for the basketball leagues I work but I think I could work around that. I average 10 gigs a month, almost all through Netflix.
5100's and T311's are hard to find used and are running about 400 and 320 respectively new on Amazon. Used AT&T Note 8's are much more common and seem to go for around 250 on Swappa, often with a case.
I've also read that T-Mobile seems to view the AT&T Note 8 as a phone though it doesn't make cellular calls (does it have sms ability? I really like that option on my 7.0+) and the 5100 as either a phone or tablet.
Any thoughts on battery life as a phone or anything else about my idea? I've had a hard time finding battery stats on specifically the cellular models; my Note 2 has spoiled me!
If I do get one of the voice enabled tablets I could see going between just that and Nokia (as a compact option, also much easier to swap sims than with my Defender wrapped Note 2!) and not having a data only line.
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i have an at&t i467 on tmobile with the 200mb for life plan. i've made phone calls with talkatone at the time and have used it with sms. i just finally got a phone recently so i dont dwell on my note 8.0 much. i'm too busy on my ipad mini lte and nexus 7 lte also on tmobile network. i have quite a bit of electronic devices, lol.
I have the N5100 and the Tab 3 (Sprint variant). The 5100 is my primary phone. The Tab 3 functions as the head unit in my car. T-Mobile classifies the 5100 as a smartphone, I had it on their $30 5 GB plan. Curiously, they also allow it on their 200 MB data only plan. This is what was reported on the thread entitled i467 Adding Phone Support: *
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I have my SGHI467 ATT tablet unlocked and running on T-Mobile, and here is a little bit that I learned, just as an fyi. * I originally tried to get T-Mobiles free 200MB/month data plan, but my IMEI in their system comes up as a phone, not a tablet. And it DOES matter which model you have. I went back and forth with them for a month before I decided to get the 30 dollar unlimited data plan (to do this go to T-Mobile and buy a microsim for 10 bucks.
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At minimum, this suggests T-Mobile distinguishes between the 5100 and 467 models. I know that AT&T's database flags the 5100 as a smartphone, so unless a store employee manually overrides the system, it cannot be registered on an AT&T data only plan. If you want to do this, find a clueless employee (I did it a year ago, they may wiser on by now).
Battery life is probably not as good as what you've experienced with the Note 2. According to my battery monitoring app, I average 4 hours of on screen time (100% -> 20%). I typically have brightness set to auto +3, WiFi off, Bluetooth off, GPS off. For me, most days, it lasts all day but needs to be charged every night.
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Thank you, that was very helpful! I'd imagine the 8" voice Tab 3 has similar battery life then. I usually get about 6 hours screen time on my Note 2.
The size (and being able to use my unlimited data) would be great but it sounds like there are too many compromises for me as a primary mobile device. I actually scored a LNIB LTE Nexus 7 two days ago at a SWEET price that I still shouldn't have bought, but I'll probably still keep my eyes open for a cheap i467 as I can live with the camera and battery life (I keep my 7.0+ in airplane mode unless I actually need data) on a 2nd/3rd/... tablet.
Thanks guys!
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I have the N5100 and the Tab 3 (Sprint variant). The 5100 is my primary phone. The Tab 3 functions as the head unit in my car. T-Mobile classifies the 5100 as a smartphone, I had it on their $30 5 GB plan. Curiously, they also allow it on their 200 MB data only plan. This is what was reported on the thread entitled i467 Adding Phone Support: *
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At minimum, this suggests T-Mobile distinguishes between the 5100 and 467 models. I know that AT&T's database flags the 5100 as a smartphone, so unless a store employee manually overrides the system, it cannot be registered on an AT&T data only plan. If you want to do this, find a clueless employee (I did it a year ago, they may wiser on by now).
Battery life is probably not as good as what you've experienced with the Note 2. According to my battery monitoring app, I average 4 hours of on screen time (100% -> 20%). I typically have brightness set to auto +3, WiFi off, Bluetooth off, GPS off. For me, most days, it lasts all day but needs to be charged every night.
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I have the AT&T Note 8.0 -SGHi467 on the T-Mobile free 200 MB plan. I went to T-Mobile store and told them I need a SIM card for my Nexus 7 LTE and I need it activated already so that it will work right out of the box, and it did.
Hope this helps.
I also have the AT&T Note 3 on the same plan with another data only SIM card...
So, I picked up a used i467 two months ago and have been using it on my T-Mobile tablet add a line. With the exception of a few small issues, this thing rocks!
Battery life was the first one- manually resetting it fixed that. I now average 7 hours of screen time with 4g and GPS on.
However, it freezes up occasionally, never for more than a few seconds. I also don't get LTE on it in a T-Mobile LTE area. It seems that AT&T may have a firmware lock on that. That's not a deal breaker but I also occasionally have data and signal drops on hspa, even in a strong 1900 area.
Despite the above, I like it so much I'm planning on getting a N5100 as this thing has taken me off my Note 2 in a big way. I just need to check out my two remaining issues.
Are my freezes and signal drops unique to the AT&T model, or could I expect the same issues with a N5100?
I've had the N5100 since shortly after launch. It's my primary phone. I don't have any problem with the screen freezing or signal dropping, but I'm on AT&T's network. Be advised, the N5100 is not LTE. Also, I don't get anywhere close to 7 hours screen time. When actively using GPS with Google Maps running, my battery will go from 100% --> 15% in 2 hours.
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Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
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Great LTE speeds or great development. AT&T version will have the same specs as the international version. The rest is up to you to make a decision
im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:
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im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:
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My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
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Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
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i am in the same boat, picked up the NOTE 2 7100 and honestly after using the htc one x lte for 5 months on mobile network i really havent felt deprived unless im viewing a picture heavy site. my theory is i can sell my 7100 get the att one or buy the att one stuff my 7100 in the box (after switching stickers of course) and return it.
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My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
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must be loving it:victory: im close to pulling the trigger..the more i go on this site and watch youtube videos about the Note 2 the closer ill buy it..im really wanting a 32GB due to i dont know why we cant run apps from SD cards or burst shots saved ect and what else that only runs on internal memory..16GB now days gets eaten up quick specially when backed up roms .. the SD card reader on the NOTE supports them crazy fast reading from sandisk cards...
high end phones now days should be 32GB at the lowest phones are getting smarter/faster/higher camera MP ect and require more GB but i guess i can live with 16GB for apps only and like 3 roms backed up ect..i feel more safe with 32GB plus the note is design for content consumption i dont really talk on the phone:silly:
i miss my note 1 in a way but was just a test drive to see if i like it and i did. i dont really like 1st gen devices.
I'm agreeing with you guys about LTE, its fast but the hspa+ in this area is real good as well. Plus there's no telling what Att will do to the device, bootloader and all. I think I'll go the intl route for now. Any ideas on foreign suppliers right now, I've used clove on the UK for the original note and gs2 with great success.
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I prefer international version too but I'm having such a bad luck with data speed. I can barely go over 1mbps, if I'm lucky 2mbps at the most. I know my location has LTE coverage but doesn't seem hspa+ friendly. It's so frustrating, for that reason I might try att LTE version since specs are most identical.
As for accessories, I don't think there will be too much difference. Int & US S3 has just about same amount of accessories availability. I assume it will be same for Note 2.
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One thing I don't see a lot of people mentioning is the tethering capabilities of the international version.
That is the main reason why I went with the international version of the US version HTC One X, Galaxy S3 and now the Note 2 was for the built in tethering.
With the US version, as soon as I tried tethering a device to it, it requires me to add an appropriate more expensive data plan before I can connect.
With the international versions, I tether all day to them with my laptop, my other wifi devices ect. without incurring any extra charges or making any changes to my current data plan.
That my friend, is way worth it for me to go with the international version.
Once you got LTE, you never go back...thats me though. Same exact specs plus LTE? Also it should be out in a week or two? Id wait.
So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
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So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
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Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
Take care
Gary
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Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
Take care
Gary
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Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
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I have never owned an LTE phone and seem to do just fine on HSPA+. My Note 2 will here Monday (from Newegg) and I'll just use it as I do every other HSPA+ phone. If it meets my needs (streaming netflix/radio/tethering) I'll just keep it. If the AT&T version is super power efficient and screams on LTE without sucking (bloatware, locked down, etc) I'll just sell my mint international Note 2 and move on with my life and get the AT&T version.
Win-win.
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Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
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Most likely, I'll keep the international version. I expect AT&T to sell their LTE version for 750 off contract (75 more than I paid for the international), it'll be bloated (as every AT&T device is), locked to AT&T frequencies and SIMs, and I don't think it'll be as well supported by the open community as the n7100.
Finally, I think it'll be at least one more generation of chips before LTE is power efficient enough for me. I simply don't do anything with my phone that really takes advantage of the LTE speeds - so the extra battery drain from the LTE support isn't worth it for me.
If I used my phone for tethering, on the other hand, I probably wouldn't even consider the non-LTE handsets anymore (and would keep a spare battery or two.)
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Gary
Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.
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Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.
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microSIM. Pretty much all new phones these days are micro. It's the new standard.
What carriers are you guys using to tether?
Just curious because i was considering straight talk but its against their ToS to tether.
just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100
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just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100
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Lol totally disregard my last post lte note 2 is the same in benchmark tests
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I aquired the ATT version and sold it because
1. We don't; have LTE and won't for another upgrade
2. I like the lower battery and data consumption of the FM Radio
3.We share 1GB data on legitimate Family share plan with one International "(dumbphone SGS II i9100) and my International Note I declared as a smart phone to get the family share plan. (cannot get that UL messaging Talk shared data plan with two "Feature phones" I am using the APN that came with the ATT version I upgraded for and sold on my Note.
4. The development community is huge already and FW udates are realesed there first. I am already running XXLA on my Note 1.
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I aquired the ATT version and sold it because
1. We don't; have LTE and won't for another upgrade
2. I like the lower battery and data consumption of the FM Radio
3.We share 1GB data on legitimate Family share plan with one International "(dumbphone SGS II i9100) and my International Note I declared as a smart phone to get the family share plan. (cannot get that UL messaging Talk shared data plan with two "Feature phones" I am using the APN that came with the ATT version I upgraded for and sold on my Note.
4. The development community is huge already and FW udates are realesed there first. I am already running XXLA on my Note 1.
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1. I live 30 min from ATT headquarters. LTE blows hspa+ outta the water.
2. I get 6+ hours screen time and 2 days off charger on my lte note.
3. Upgrade your data plan.
4. Development? Its not hard to learn and teach yourself. You will notice nothing between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2, except some settings moved around.
5. 7100 ROMs work on the att note.
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1. I live 30 min from ATT headquarters. LTE blows hspa+ outta the water.
2. I get 6+ hours screen time and 2 days off charger on my lte note.
3. Upgrade your data plan.
4. Development? Its not hard to learn and teach yourself. You will notice nothing between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2, except some settings moved around.
5. 7100 ROMs work on the att note.
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I "get it" You love the ATT version and you develop your own ROMs however I am asking people on ATT using an International device in an International forum who do not develop ROMs if they would have preferred the ATT version now and why. Not who already has the ATT version and loves it. That said it seems seems no one on ATT is unhappy with their N7100.
I Don't need to use much data with the FM Radio. Why pay for something I am getting free or worse I won't use? $115 a month for two smart phones is a bargain. .Another $300+ a year for 4GB of unused data not so much....
Regarding LTE speeds, we all know the frustration of downloading a 700mb ROM on 'high speed" cable at 100kb a second despite our measured 15mps download benchmark speeds on Speednet. LOL
3G+ is plenty fast enough for most web browsing which is ultimately dependent on the web site. LTE looks great on speed tests, on paper, and may save a few minutes here and there downloading and may be very nice for someone who does not have another form of Internet source most of the time. But a few extra seconds of page loading won;t make a whole lot of difference on a mobile device as long as video and music streams seamlessly.
I don't have the time and especially the inclination to learn how to develop code for these devices, I'd rather have a choice of using another's passionate work with the shared results of their hobby.
Those of us without LTE for another year or so don't need the ATT badged phone. I had it. I tried it. I flashed a Rom on it. I sold it cheap .I am holding out for a great deal on a 7100 because I have the ROM already and can wait another $100 or so for the rest of the Note 2 goodies.
I am very happy with my international N2 on AT&T. My 3g speeds average 6-7. There is not LTE where I live, nor will there be for a good while. I have no real concerns about having LTE on my phone with limited data...
I'm fine with the International version. No regrets.
No regrets here. LTE is a long way off where I live. HSPA+ is plenty fast enough.
Thanks guys. I did the right thing. Now I wait for a better price while I rock XXLSA on the N7000
What APNs are you using? Cingular wap or ATT Phone?. I l am on using the Shared data plan I upgraded for with the option of switching back to the MediaNet UL data plan.
I'm using AT&T PTA. I get 6-8 down on average. With wap cingular I only get 3-5 down.
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I'm using AT&T PTA. I get 6-8 down on average. With wap cingular I only get 3-5 down.
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Thanks Good news I am glad I got the new SIM then and provisioned for a smart phone.
I have no regrets. I have the peace of mind knowing that AT&T hasn't tampered with my device in any way in order to monitor activities and/or limit features that are present to me out-of-the box. As for LTE, it's pointless to me the way things are right now. I mean, what need have I for a connection rivaling my home internet speeds, when I'm faced with overages or throttling? HSPA+ is plenty for me.
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I have no regrets. I have the peace of mind knowing that AT&T hasn't tampered with my device in any way in order to monitor activities and/or limit features that are present to me out-of-the box. As for LTE, it's pointless to me the way things are right now. I mean, what need have I for a connection rivaling my home internet speeds, when I'm faced with overages or throttling? HSPA+ is plenty for me.
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I just ordered on on Newegg for $599 shipped.... I agree with LTE. I have high speed internet here at home and downloading 700MB ROM files at 100KB/sec reminds me LTE is not all that. Websites determine speeds more than the carrier. The only clear advantage to LTE is when downloading or uploading large files otherwise web pages load in seconds on 3G rather than instantly. Not bad.
I put my phone up next to a Verizon SIII and compared my MediaNet 3g with their LTE. Thier's was faster by a few seconds in some cases and not even by one second in others.
can't you just disable the LTE radio (to save battery or if your area doesn't have LTE), or does that disable data/service entirely?
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can't you just disable the LTE radio (to save battery or if your area doesn't have LTE), or does that disable data/service entirely?
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I bought the International version of the Note 2 and coming from the Note 1 AT&T LTE the battery life is not even close. The note 2 gives me well over 10hrs of heavy screen-on set to auto+high, net surfing over HSPA+. I could not get 1/2 that on my LTE Note 1.
As far as disabling LTE... For my wife, coming from the Skyrocket there was an APN that would disable LTE, however the radio was still there so the battery life was not helped as much as turning it off would have been. Trully turning it "off" on the Skyrocket was not an option. For her I opted to get her the T-Mobile Note2 and unlock it and she is running on AT&T HSPA+ as well with great results.
Bottomline: Getting between 8-9000kpbs is plenty fine with me, especially if it gives me even a fraction of extra battery
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I bought the International version of the Note 2 and coming from the Note 1 AT&T LTE the battery life is not even close. The note 2 gives me well over 10hrs of heavy screen-on set to auto+high, net surfing over HSPA+. I could not get 1/2 that on my LTE Note 1.
As far as disabling LTE... For my wife, coming from the Skyrocket there was an APN that would disable LTE, however the radio was still there so the battery life was not helped as much as turning it off would have been. Trully turning it "off" on the Skyrocket was not an option. For her I opted to get her the T-Mobile Note2 and unlock it and she is running on AT&T HSPA+ as well with great results.
Bootomline: Getting between 8-9000kpbs is plenty fine with me, especially if it gives me even a fraction of extra battery
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Yeah I thought that might be the case. Mine is on the way from NewEgg. I tried the ATT version but I am too used to a vanilla Samsung device. I actually like Samsung without the ATT stuff (although I don;t use TW. ) I tried the CM and AKOP stuff but too much flashing going on and samsung does not release drivers so FM didn't work without a $10 app and the S Pen stuff was wonky. .
The stock custom roms always were my choice. I would find one development team and stick with them. DesignGears on the Cappy, CheckRom on the i9100, Eybee, N7000 and looks like Omega will be my choice with the Note II
since I've had my gnex these are my favorite highlights of verizon service
1. LTE started at 25 megs it's now at 10
2. My unlimited contract is technically still valid but for some reason I can barely ever break 4gb since they stopped offering it
3. Following my internet service Verizon now pre compresses data like pictures sent to my phone = crappy resolutions
4. 2 years after the launch of LTE the service area has steadily declined
5. Google voice magically stopped working on the first day of last months billing period = 140 extra dollar bill they wont discount
6. They dont improve the signal they rewrite the software to display more bars
7. When you go to the speed test app magically your phone is faster, something Samsung was recently caught doing
8. This month our 17% employee discount mysteriously needs to be renewed - they forgot to notify us - last time we went for 11 months without it. And we can't do it online.
9. My phone has problems charging but they claim the internet is lies about it being a charging port issue even though I can wiggle it fixed in front of them.
10. bloatware
11. Mysterious connection delays that they say is "solved" by purchasing a new phone
I know I have some more, the point being that before you go out and get a Verizon phone because it's supposed to the best service, look around and make sure it still is.
In my area Wyoming. Verizon really screwed up and sold alltel to at&t. Verizon used to piggy back on alltel towers and alltel was the main cell provider. At&t is now turning off the old alltel service on the towers and making them gsm only. Seems like my service gets worse monthly now and some areas like where I work have quit completely but att that was non existent before is full bars on my work phone. If it wasn't for their better costumer service and having unlimited data I would be done. They day they say no more unlimited data I say goodbye. Probably go back to dumb phone as I can't afford a 12gb data plan.
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since I've had my gnex these are my favorite highlights of verizon service
1. LTE started at 25 megs it's now at 10
2. My unlimited contract is technically still valid but for some reason I can barely ever break 4gb since they stopped offering it
3. Following my internet service Verizon now pre compresses data like pictures sent to my phone = crappy resolutions
4. 2 years after the launch of LTE the service area has steadily declined
5. Google voice magically stopped working on the first day of last months billing period = 140 extra dollar bill they wont discount
6. They dont improve the signal they rewrite the software to display more bars
7. When you go to the speed test app magically your phone is faster, something Samsung was recently caught doing
8. This month our 17% employee discount mysteriously needs to be renewed - they forgot to notify us - last time we went for 11 months without it. And we can't do it online.
9. My phone has problems charging but they claim the internet is lies about it being a charging port issue even though I can wiggle it fixed in front of them.
10. bloatware
11. Mysterious connection delays that they say is "solved" by purchasing a new phone
I know I have some more, the point being that before you go out and get a Verizon phone because it's supposed to the best service, look around and make sure it still is.
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Not that I'm terribly happy with Verizon, but I'm not sure what you mean by some of these?
1. Probably congestion with all the 4g phones.
2. How can you not get more than 4gb? Does your service stop?
3. How would this do this without extra local software?
4. 4g service is pretty extensive in my area, but it's no bigger than their 3g was and att now has much better coverage.
5. How would you suddenly be charged if Google voice stops working?
9. Likely crud in your micro use port. Sharpen a toothpick to get it out. I've had this from time to time.
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That's really odd. I will say that i've noticed a tad bit of slowdown in general on their LTE network but i would attribute that to the great increase of traffic compared to what it was when the Nexus originally came out.
I just broke 8 gigs of data usage this month, not sure why you are having problems. Do you have insurance on your phone?
I disagree with everything you're saying, OP.
The next town over, to this day, I get around 40 Mbps down consistently, and last month I used 17 GB.
Speeds and coverage depend on the phone of course, like the Droid RAZR M RIGHT NEXT TO MY GALAXY NEXUS was getting around 2x the download speeds.
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Is it really not that obvious? New phone have better radios hardware and software wise. When you upgrade your service and speeds will be better
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I just wanted to update my previous post about the service Wyoming. They actually are putting up towers and 4g in the middle of nowhere that was previously lost when they sold to att. So my service is actually getting better now. I have service now where I need it.
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I don't know how to address all of your points, because I'm pretty sure some of them aren't problems with Verizon's network, but I can say that network speed was absolutely destined to decrease after the boom of LTE phones.
It's happened with every network after they hit a critical mass of LTE devices.
Network congestion is a serious problem that isn't easily solved. Throwing more towers at it can help mitigate the issue, but much of the problem boils down to limited spectrum- the same reason why populated wifi connections are unusable. It doesn't have to do with the routers being bottlenecked, it's simply the spectrum being overcrowded.
bubarub said:
Is it really not that obvious? New phone have better radios hardware and software wise. When you upgrade your service and speeds will be better
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No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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Same thing happened to me. My 4G is now almost non-existent at my house. Used to get 20mbs down. I still broke 80gbs last month (sick and staying at home) but speeds are a fraction of what it used to be.
I opened a T-Mobile line to test out their service in my area (LA/OC) and its pretty awesome. Dead spot here and there but nothing I didn't experience on Verizon either. Also wanted to test how true their unlimited data is. Its been 3 days and pushing 8 gigs. I bypassed the tether block as well. Looking good so far but still got 20 more days to go.
Also picked up an S4 with T-Mobile. Really blows my Gnex to shame. Tethering and charging doesnt turn my phone into a brick of fire. Its been a few hours and the phone is still very cool. Battery even lasts 2-3x longer than the Gnex even while tethering vs Gnex being idle. Its crazy.
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No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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Agreed, this is a common occurrence. LTE has a theoretical max of what, 100mbps? So eventually it *should* surpass HSPA+/HSDPA.
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antawnm26 said:
No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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In context of the O.P's comment he is right. Within Verizons network if you update to a new device it will have better optimized software and radios compared to an older device that Verizon refuses to allow an update for.
my only issue with Verizon is their charging out the ass part
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While looking through Amazon I saw they have the Note 8 with 3G available. Not LTE, but still a step up from Wifi and for not too much more than the standard Note 8 (http://goo.gl/XB8jZF). Is anyone using this model, and do you have any comments on its 3G performance?
I'll be traveling overseas end of this year and I'm thinking of selling my current Note 8 and getting one with 3G instead.
mudge
I have the 3g model and i love it, its a tru all in one device i sold my note 2 about a month ago and i just use my note 8 for everything, 3g performance totally depends on your service provider, im with vodaphone uk and im happy with the 3g service i get although i do use mine mostly on wifi, as for the Lte/4g model it would be absolutely useless to me as there are no 4g masts up yet in my area. So unless u have great 4g coverage where u live or u travel regularly to a 4g area the Lte/4g version wont be much of a bonus, plus 4g data costs and data caps are also rubbish, whats the point in having a super high speed internet with a small data cap where its possible to use your whole monthly allowance in about an hour, yes you can watch streaming movies and tv on 4g but they dont allow you enough monthly data to actually beable to without hitting the limit within a couple of films.
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iCurmudgeon said:
While looking through Amazon I saw they have the Note 8 with 3G available. Not LTE, but still a step up from Wifi and for not too much more than the standard Note 8 (http://goo.gl/XB8jZF). Is anyone using this model, and do you have any comments on its 3G performance?
I'll be traveling overseas end of this year and I'm thinking of selling my current Note 8 and getting one with 3G instead.
mudge
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There are lots of comments regarding the model GT-N5100. Just do a search in this section.
It turns out that the xiaomi redmi note 8 pro I bought doesn't work here in the states (Hawaii) based on a lot of variables (bands mostly) and I'm seeing if any of these will be more compatible. My carrier is TMobile. I get text and voice no problem but data is incredibly slow and I absolutely need data. I don't care so much about voLTE. The specs on these phones and other Chinese phones I have had in the past are far more Superior to the more popular models in the states that are far more expensive so finding an 8gb ram model with a minimum of 128g for 300$ (what I paid for my redmi note 8 pro can be exchanged for these options listed below) would be ideal. Thanks in advance
Asus-ROG-Phone-2-II-ZS660KL-128GB-8GB-Snapdragon-855-Plus-2-96GHz-6000mAh
Xiaomi-MI-Note-10-Pro-6-47-108MP-Penta-Cameras-8GB-RAM-256GB
Oppo-Realme-X2-6-4-Snapdragon-730G-8GB-RAM-128GB-64MP-Quad-Camera
Oppo-Realme-5-PRO-6-3-128GB-8GB-RAM-Snapdragon-712-48MP-Quad-Cameras-4G-LTE
Xiaomi-Black-Shark-2-Pro-128GB-8GB-Snapdragon-855-Plus-2-96GHz
Oppo-Realme-X2-Pro-6-5-Display-Snapdragon-855-Plus-2-96GHz-64MP-Camera
I have note 8 pro global and I'm on Google fi (T-Mobile) no issues connects to bands 2 and 4.
best operator?
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I have note 8 pro global and I'm on Google fi (T-Mobile) no issues connects to bands 2 and 4.
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but where do you live? maybe you live in a major city (new york city, los angeles etc) and so those bands are very strong.
I am making a new post because seems there isn't one here yet.. what s the best operator FOR the redmi? Across minor cities. Because not everyone lives in the top 4 cities in America.
Google Fi is expensive ($70+ for unlimited data) but how are your speed test? any missed calls?
If it's tmobile, you could use these:
Tmobile directly
CTExcel (china-based, but uses tmobile towers i believe)
Mint Mobile (prob best and should use tmobile)
AT&T
Cricket
H20 Wireless
after putting 2 sims in, in a small city (major 4th or 5th largest in entire state), the AT&T has near all full bars indoors as well as out. the Tmobile (simple mobile) has 2-3 indoors, and outdoors I haven't really noticed yet (less than 48 hours with this setup). Just writing to let you know there is hope. I wish I had boost, but simple is nice as it's unlimited and you can get it down to as low as $23 and some change a month. My AT&T is unlimited everything anyway so I keep the Simple at the lowest price point (still unlimited talk text AND hotspot as well as 5G access. What a deal).
So Tmobile would work. Simple. AT&T. I'm sure cricket.