Hi all
I'm just wondering if there's anything in 4.4 that is NOT as good as 4.3? Any limitations or disadvantages you can think of? (I've read something to do with the external SD function...???)
Cheers in advance
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Changes in Stock 4.4 [Summarized]
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Only and major downside for me - extSD card not writable by system and hence useless on stock ROM!
kornelius1982 said:
Only and major downside for me - extSD card not writable by system and hence useless on stock ROM!
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There is a way to fix this.
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toyanucci said:
There is a way to fix this.
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Do you mean fix without root?
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Got to root. For me, with one device already on Kitty Kat and seeing no big advantage, I will not be upgrading my Note 10.1 or Note 8.
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kornelius1982 said:
Only and major downside for me - extSD card not writable by system and hence useless on stock ROM!
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--> extSD card not writable by system <--
Are you saying you cannot write to the SD card with apps like OfficeSuite Pro or the camera or just that the system will not install and run programs from the SD card?
If an application is designed to save its files to the card in a folder created by said application, then yes. If the application cannot create a folder on the card, then no. That is a quick explanation.
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Thanks...
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Chromecast doesn't work. If you're a big user of Chromecast, DO NOT update as there's no way to revert...
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Chromecast doesn't work. If you're a big user of Chromecast, DO NOT update as there's no way to revert...
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I bet they fix that one quick.
BTW - When I went to KitKat on some of my other tabs all I had to do was reinstall the same apps (same versions) and they worked fine. The reinstall did something that made them work fine. Out of several hundred apps it was only a handful.
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Chromecast doesn't work. If you're a big user of Chromecast, DO NOT update as there's no way to revert...
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Is this only for 10.1 2014 with KK? Because I dont think this is KK related as Chromecast works for my Note 3 with SinLess KK ROM.
can someone quickly elaborate about extSD card issue
I've been able to grab small tid bits here and there.
does that mean that I can't store data, or that apps that for example fpse use ext sd for rom storage will no longer be able to use extSd ??
Sd card will work pretty much like on pre-Android, pre-Symbian phones.
Only good for media files, which must be stored via a pc, not say, loaded with the tablet from a nas.
Probably pics and vids taken with the Note can be saved on the card.
They force all more sophisticated users to root. Others, who enjoy being submitted to rules, even silly ones, and miss Adolf, are already using iOS and WP anyway.
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Naith32 said:
Hi all
I'm just wondering if there's anything in 4.4 that is NOT as good as 4.3? Any limitations or disadvantages you can think of? (I've read something to do with the external SD function...???)
Cheers in advance
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Hey glad I caught this thread on time. So since you're on kitkat, you are unable to turn your device around 180 degrees. And that pretty much renders all cases useless for the typing position UNLESS you buy Samsung's pricey case that can fold without having you turn the device.
xcmonx said:
Hey glad I caught this thread on time. So since you're on kitkat, you are unable to turn your device around 180 degrees. And that pretty much renders all cases useless for the typing position UNLESS you buy Samsung's pricey case that can fold without having you turn the device.
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Not sure where you got that info. I'm on KitKat and turning the device works just as it did before the upgrade. I can put the power cord at the top if I need to. There's nothing I tried that doesn't work with the Note upside down.
TabGuy said:
Not sure where you got that info. I'm on KitKat and turning the device works just as it did before the upgrade. I can put the power cord at the top if I need to. There's nothing I tried that doesn't work with the Note upside down.
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Really? It might just be my custom ROM then. Well I'm currently experiencing that problem with Kat1.0 kitkat ROM for the SMP600. Is anyone else using that ROM encounter this problem? Is there an xposed hack for this?
Kit Kat and SD Card
toyanucci said:
There is a way to fix this.
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It is working for me with upgrade through Kies3 this week.
Is My Files app affected by the SD card restrictions? I assume only 3rd party apps in the play store are affected.
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aznmode said:
Is My Files app affected by the SD card restrictions? I assume only 3rd party apps in the play store are affected.
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No, the my files app has full permissions. So you can still say download things and then just move them over from internal to external.
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Hey peeps. I finally got fed up running out of storage and went searching for something to fix it. Modern combat 3 takes up 1.4 gigs and Nova takes even more. With this app I can move their external data to the external SD card freeing up more room for more games.
I didn't create this app, just wanted to let people know about it. Remember you need to use the app to open these games once you move their data, otherwise they will just re download their files again.
Feel free to ask me any questions and I'll try and help if I can.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp
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lessthanzach said:
Hey peeps. I finally got fed up running out of storage and went searching for something to fix it. Modern combat 3 takes up 1.4 gigs and Nova takes even more. With this app I can move their external data to the external SD card freeing up more room for more games.
I didn't create this app, just wanted to let people know about it. Remember you need to use the app to open these games once you move their data, otherwise they will just re download their files again.
Feel free to ask me any questions and I'll try and help if I can.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp
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does not work on my S3 with AOSP CM on it. I am reverting my build.prop and see if that fixes it that I use for google wallet, perhaps it does not work on the "Nexus"
eatonjb said:
does not work on my S3 with AOSP CM on it. I am reverting my build.prop and see if that fixes it that I use for google wallet, perhaps it does not work on the "Nexus"
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What's it say? Does it throw and error or just plain when u try to do something doesn't do it?
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lessthanzach said:
What's it say? Does it throw and error or just plain when u try to do something doesn't do it?
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It says that it's not compatible with my device, but I changed the3 build.prop back to say that I have a S3 not a Nexus, and google play let me install it. I will report back when i get to try some apps.
eatonjb said:
It says that it's not compatible with my device, but I changed the3 build.prop back to say that I have a S3 not a Nexus, and google play let me install it. I will report back when i get to try some apps.
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Good. Should work fine. I noticed a couple times it wouldn't launch asphalt 7 so I checked the setting to clear cache when launching a game and that seems to have fixed it. Let me know if there are any other issues you run into.
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Now all we have to do is wait for the 64gb sdhc xc to drop in price severely
djsyche said:
Now all we have to do is wait for the 64gb sdhc xc to drop in price severely
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Yup. I found it on Amazon for 54.99 two days ago. Really solid price for a uhs class 10 64gig card.
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better app
this app is better i use it and it works for much more than just gl games..
i have all my gps maps on external sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
lgkahn said:
this app is better i use it and it works for much more than just gl games..
i have all my gps maps on external sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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The one I posted does more than game loft games as well. You can add any application that allows the installation of data to external cards. But whatever. Choices are good.
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I moved the data for three games and the game is asking me to download the data again
LSUtigers03 said:
I moved the data for three games and the game is asking me to download the data again
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Go into settings and check the boxes next to mount data.
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Good find followed your instructions worked perfect thanks also don't forget to recover list when you add games
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overrated doesn't move the vast majority of apps to the sd card.
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overrated doesn't move the vast majority of apps to the sd card.
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The vast majority don't need to be moved. But I have yet to find an app over 50 megs that I couldn't move so it's possible you are doing something wrong.
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namgisdon said:
Good find followed your instructions worked perfect thanks also don't forget to recover list when you add games
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Cool. Glad to hear it worked for you. I couldn't figure out directory bind program mentioned earlier so this was exactly what I was looking for.
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Is it possible to move installed apps to the SD card?
rahlquist said:
Is it possible to move installed apps to the SD card?
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on the Stock factory configured S4, not without rooting.
XeoNoX said:
on the Stock factory configured S4, not without rooting.
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I thought you couldn't at all. Can anyone esle confirm this?
Use link2sd.
With root you can probably also use Directory Bind to store game data into sd. I use it on my s3 and note 2. It's not in the app store but it's here in xda. Just Google it.
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Here is my thing no one has said they have done it. I keep hearing probably with root!
I just need someone to confirm this, I don't want the gs4 if I can't install appa to a SD card.
DirectoryBind was great on the S3, but doesn't work on the S4. I installed FolderMount (pro) and it works beautifully.
Anyone try link2sd?
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DirectoryBind was great on the S3, but doesn't work on the S4. I installed FolderMount (pro) and it works beautifully.
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When you kick it off it wants to "replace a faulty module", did it ask you that when you first used it?
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When you kick it off it wants to "replace a faulty module", did it ask you that when you first used it?
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Yes, I let it replace the faulty module.
thehothit said:
DirectoryBind was great on the S3, but doesn't work on the S4. I installed FolderMount (pro) and it works beautifully.
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Thanks. Atleast there's an alternative. I was afraid when you said Directory Bind didnt work that I would have to return my phone and wait for the 32g version.
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Good day I'm planning to get a S4 Mini soon, likely the 3G version, but I don't want to root so I was wondering whether Samsung has added Apps2SD ability to it yet.
When they updated the full S4 Samsung said they were also going to add App2SD ability to the S4 Active and Mini and I was just wondering whether that has happened yet?
On the Samsung App store there is an App2SD-like app which shows support for the S4 Mini so can any of you use that app?
I'd prefer not have to root and use Link2SD....so if this hasn't happened yet then I might have to get at getting an S3 instead, despite that one not being extremely hard to operate one-handed.
When I bought my phone about a month ago apps2sd didn't work. I managed to transfer my apps to the sd with "Folder Mount" but this app requires root.
Hi I'm new to the s4 mini section.
To be perfectly honest, this phones internal memory is large enough for most things.
If you have multiple large games that you wish to keep, the quickest way is an app called gl to sd.
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App2SD is supported.
Use an app called AppMgr III (formerly called App2SD)
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Eradica said:
App2SD is supported.
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So you can use it now? On a completely stock phone without root?
Yup I'm currently stock, nothing messed with. You can go to application manager and select Move to SD.
Read my previous post because I just edited it.
Edit: but remember if an app has not been designed with App2SD in mind, then you can't move it.
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Eradica said:
Yup I'm currently stock, nothing messed with. You can go to application manager and select Move to SD.
Read my previous post because I just edited it.
Edit: but remember if an app has not been designed with App2SD in mind, then you can't move it.
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That's brilliant news, thanks so much
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That's brilliant news, thanks so much
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Here's some proof to help anyone else who may view this thread later on.
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Here's some proof to help anyone else who may view this thread later on.
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Thanks again
Eradica said:
Yup I'm currently stock, nothing messed with. You can go to application manager and select Move to SD.
Read my previous post because I just edited it.
Edit: but remember if an app has not been designed with App2SD in mind, then you can't move it.
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but I think this move the data to the emulated sdcard not external sd
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but I think this move the data to the emulated sdcard not external sd
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Thats true, it will copy to the emulated sd card which is in fact your internal storage, thus resulting to fail moving as the app is already there.
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Good day I'm planning to get a S4 Mini soon, likely the 3G version, but I don't want to root so I was wondering whether Samsung has added Apps2SD ability to it yet.
When they updated the full S4 Samsung said they were also going to add App2SD ability to the S4 Active and Mini and I was just wondering whether that has happened yet?
On the Samsung App store there is an App2SD-like app which shows support for the S4 Mini so can any of you use that app?
I'd prefer not have to root and use Link2SD....so if this hasn't happened yet then I might have to get at getting an S3 instead, despite that one not being extremely hard to operate one-handed.
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App2sd is not yet supported. When i used to boot up AppMgr3 on samsung stock fw update (July/Aug '13 update) i got "Your device is not supported because the sdcard is being emulated" and resulting in not reading the extSdcard instead.
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Oh darn. Perhaps the update has only been released in Eradica's region and not in your region yet/or not yet released by your carrier?
I don't know about any new samsung stock updates as i'm not running stock firmware ever since CM alphas. I failed to mention that i use CyanogenMod 10.1.3 firmware, so im not really having space issues.
Also i could always flash my kernel and rom back to original stock if any means necessary due to warranty void.
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Well that explains it then because the is a function Samsung is specifically adding back to it's S4 line and perhaps also some S3 models with an update. Android JB which your CM is based on doesn't allow native App2SD anymore.
Ok, I just got my S4 Mini LTE version yesterday and I can confirm that Samsung have in fact released the update because I have the Move to SD card function for most of my downloaded applications on the stock 4.2.2 version.
I noticed I can no longer create folders or copy to sd card from the note. I have to connect through USB to save to micro sd card. I believe the 4.4 has something to do with this. For security?
This sucks, if I had known I wouldn't of update.
Is anyone that took OTA 4.4 have same issue. Or found a work around. ?
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starscrean said:
I noticed I can no longer create folders or copy to sd card from the note. I have to connect through USB to save to micro sd card. I believe the 4.4 has something to do with this. For security?
This sucks, if I had known I wouldn't of update.
Is anyone that took OTA 4.4 have same issue. Or found a work around. ?
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Lol
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Yes there is.. It's very easy to fix as well... I'm sure if you look around the site, use the search option, you will figure it out
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starscrean said:
I noticed I can no longer create folders or copy to sd card from the note. I have to connect through USB to save to micro sd card. I believe the 4.4 has something to do with this. For security?
This sucks, if I had known I wouldn't of update.
Is anyone that took OTA 4.4 have same issue. Or found a work around. ?
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EStrongs file explorer. Root not required. :good:
I have no problem doing this using the My Files app that is included with your device. If you are trying to use a third party file explorer from the Play Store then you may have problems as 4.4.2 locks down access to the SD card for third party apps.
I noticed I have two new camera picture folders when I review images on phone now...
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EStrongs file explorer. Root not required. :good:
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Yea but if your trying to download via ttorrent or similar it gives permission error. Only way to get it on sdcard is to download to internal memory then move to sd.
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I noticed I have two new camera picture folders when I review images on phone now...
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One is for burst shot the other for camera. If those are the 2 you refer to. I have a few cause of the 3 camera apps I have lol
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BACARDILIMON said:
One is for burst shot the other for camera. If those are the 2 you refer to. I have a few cause of the 3 camera apps I have lol
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I dont have burst enabled at all. In Album I have Camera with 1,677 images and another Camera with 51 images. I think this was my fault come to think about it :silly: I just realized that my SD card was almost full and at some point I changed the camera to store on internal memory. I think this was it? LOL
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I dont have burst enabled at all. In Album I have Camera with 1,677 images and another Camera with 51 images. I think this was my fault come to think about it :silly: I just realized that my SD card was almost full and at some point I changed the camera to store on internal memory. I think this was it? LOL
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Lol I thought I was the only one with a full internal SD card
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Lol I thought I was the only one with a full internal SD card
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Hey, long story short. When I was back in London I copied a lot of my brothers songs onto my SD card .
Hey guys, I need some help in doing the swap from Internal to External so that way I can install more apps. I was looking around I found External to Internal app, will it work fine on 4.3 ? And are there are other work around for 4.3 OS. I found guides but they are for 4.2.2 and below. Haven't been able to find one for 4.3 Not sure if they patched or the process it still same.
Many apps can be moved using the app management in Settings now. Have you tried that yet?
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Many apps can be moved using the app management in Settings now. Have you tried that yet?
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Yeah instead it just moves it to a different folder in phone storage. I think 4.3 killed sD cards.
I'm not really sure then. Though I'm pretty sure that ought to move them to the external card. Ive rarely had to use it, but I recall doing so always did for me.
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for me , with ESfile explorer with root privileges i am able to move files/items back and forth quite easily. dont know if that would help your exact issue though.
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