As with the Note5, the Note7 comes with different SIM models, some with single SIM, where you can add an SDcard in the second slot and the DUOS models, where you can add a second SIM or an SDcard to the second slot.
Does someone know, what's the physical difference between the two systems? From a manufacturing point of view, it doesn't make sense to produce two systems that are so similar.
And, if it will be implemented the same way as on the Note5, even the firmware for both systems should be the same.
I wonder, if it is really necessary to buy a DUOS - eg an N930FD - instead of a N930F to use two SIM cards.
Anyone here, how knows the difference between the two systems?
hkr said:
As with the Note5, the Note7 comes with different SIM models, some with single SIM, where you can add an SDcard in the second slot and the DUOS models, where you can add a second SIM or an SDcard to the second slot.
Does someone know, what's the physical difference between the two systems? From a manufacturing point of view, it doesn't make sense to produce two systems that are so similar.
And, if it will be implemented the same way as on the Note5, even the firmware for both systems should be the same.
I wonder, if it is really necessary to buy a DUOS - eg an N930FD - instead of a N930F to use two SIM cards.
Anyone here, how knows the difference between the two systems?
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i want to know this too. More importantly (for me) will it work properly on AT&T?
ON EBAY it lists the following bands:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Samsung...hash=item3ac95b11b6:m:mv6a3OIYs0V1HNlXutJQbkA :
LTE 2100 (B1), 700 (B17), 850 (B5), 1700/2100 (B4), 1800 (B3), 2600 (B7), 1900 (B2), 800 (B18), 900 (B8), 800 (B20), 700 (B12), 800 (B26), 800 (B19)
Does that include all the AT&T LTE bands?
hkr said:
As with the Note5, the Note7 comes with different SIM models, some with single SIM, where you can add an SDcard in the second slot and the DUOS models, where you can add a second SIM or an SDcard to the second slot.
Does someone know, what's the physical difference between the two systems? From a manufacturing point of view, it doesn't make sense to produce two systems that are so similar.
And, if it will be implemented the same way as on the Note5, even the firmware for both systems should be the same.
I wonder, if it is really necessary to buy a DUOS - eg an N930FD - instead of a N930F to use two SIM cards.
Anyone here, how knows the difference between the two systems?
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The tray is different, so you would at least have to get a SIM tray from a Duos version.
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I don't think that the "non duos" version can take two sim card, the second sim card sensor is probably not there. Anyway it could be interesting to try to use two sims in a single sim version with a tray from the duos version. But yes, you have been able to use "single sim" firmware on the dual sim version of previous models, so you will probably also be able to on this one.
Thank you, obviously, the tray is different than the DUOS tray from the Note5 ... Will be difficult to find a tray to try ourt
If someone herecould try it out someday, that would be great.
However, I guess it would be difficult to find a place to buy a tray, if the DUOS one would work in the single SIM Note7.
What do you think?
Is there a difference between the bands in the FD dual sim and the F single sim variant?
I'm a frequent US/Asia traveler but I can't find the Duos model in Blue on eBay.
moqabianqa said:
Is there a difference between the bands in the FD dual sim and the F single sim variant?
I'm a frequent US/Asia traveler but I can't find the Duos model in Blue on eBay.
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You could probably check the frequencies to make sure that it had the correct once. The S7 Edge had a wide set of frequencies supported, and I am thinking that the same will be the case here. It is the same model being available in many regions.
I have found two third party pages specifying the frequencies, however it is third parts so it is no 100% validated. Site 1 and Site 2
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hkr said:
Thank you, obviously, the tray is different than the DUOS tray from the Note5 ... Will be difficult to find a tray to try ourt
If someone herecould try it out someday, that would be great.
However, I guess it would be difficult to find a place to buy a tray, if the DUOS one would work in the single SIM Note7.
What do you think?
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Yes, I think it would be quite hard to get the tray - and I dont think it would work. But if I god the phone and know someone with the single sim, I would probably check
Thanks, EMF
My guess is, both systems are basically the same (DUOS). However, as especially european carriers won't sell DUOS systems to maximize their profits, Samsung made a special tray that doesn't allow to add a second SIM. It's the easiest way to deliver a single SIM device.
As soon as both systems are available, someone will find out, if my guess is right or wrong ...
I ended up using frequencycheck.com to confirm my research and I ordered a n930fd as well as the T-mobile version here in California.
Hope it can help someone else out.
But if I find someone around here with the n930f NON DUOS, I will go ahead and try swapping sim trays and reply back here!
malaysian version
EMF said:
The tray is different, so you would at least have to get a SIM tray from a Duos version.
I don't think that the "non duos" version can take two sim card, the second sim card sensor is probably not there. Anyway it could be interesting to try to use two sims in a single sim version with a tray from the duos version. But yes, you have been able to use "single sim" firmware on the dual sim version of previous models, so you will probably also be able to on this one.
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i read somewhere on s7 edge DUOS forum, the explanation is, DUOS model has 2nd IMEI. so, if you have non duos, then you only have 1 IMEI, thus to put 2nd SIM despite you use correct SIM tray, it will not work.
china note 7 dual sim is snapdragon 128gb storage and 6gb ram unlocked bootloader
international is exynos 4gb ram xx storage unlocked bootloader
usa gets locked down snapdragons? Except Tmobile? also 4gb ram xx storage
Would love to know if the dual Sim will work properly on AT&T...
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travis82 said:
china note 7 dual sim is snapdragon 128gb storage and 6gb ram unlocked bootloader
international is exynos 4gb ram xx storage unlocked bootloader
usa gets locked down snapdragons? Except Tmobile? also 4gb ram xx storage
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Hey Travis, I think the T-Mobile US version no longer comes with the Unlocked bootloader anymore :'(! I believe they stopped doing this since the S7. Of course, we won't know for sure until someone gets their actual unit, but based on the S7 and S7 Snapdragon trends, it's safe to conclude that. Of course I tried asking the T-Mobile store rep and he was like, "Boooottloooaaderrrr??" SMH...!
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Would love to know if the dual Sim will work properly on AT&T...
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I think its missing 1 LTE band
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...930fd-galaxy-note-7-duos-td-lte/united-states
erootaku123 said:
I think its missing 1 LTE band
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...930fd-galaxy-note-7-duos-td-lte/united-states
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But how important is that. I bet it can be switched on...
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ekerbuddyeker said:
But how important is that. I bet it can be switched on...
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I doubt it. Its chipped based I think. Though you have the other 3 bands so LTE might work then again im not so sure. All I know is t-mobile works thats all that matters!
Hi Guys,
I'm tired of asking for more and more details and not enough answers. Can you guys help me come up with a bottom line?
If I need an unlocked Bootloader and custom development support and using the phone in the US on AT&T or T-Mobile, which variant should I get? The regular N930F or the Dual SIM version the N930FD?
Thanks for your help!
ProFragger said:
Hi Guys,
I'm tired of asking for more and more details and not enough answers. Can you guys help me come up with a bottom line?
If I need an unlocked Bootloader and custom development support and using the phone in the US on AT&T or T-Mobile, which variant should I get? The regular N930F or the Dual SIM version the N930FD?
Thanks for your help!
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For just using if you have AT&T and want 100% use, buy the USA version. If you use T-Mobile buy the N930FD for unlocked development. In the end I would say dont use AT&T cause the only model that works 100% is locked and may not get development support unless they can bypass that.
I'm getting the Dual SIM version FYI. I use T-mobile.
erootaku123 said:
For just using if you have AT&T and want 100% use, buy the USA version. If you use T-Mobile buy the N930FD for unlocked development. In the end I would say dont use AT&T cause the only model that works 100% is locked and may not get development support unless they can bypass that.
I'm getting the Dual SIM version FYI. I use T-mobile.
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Thanks bud! And what band is this for AT&T that's missing? Is it a widely used frequency for them?
erootaku123 said:
For just using if you have AT&T and want 100% use, buy the USA version. If you use T-Mobile buy the N930FD for unlocked development. In the end I would say dont use AT&T cause the only model that works 100% is locked and may not get development support unless they can bypass that.
I'm getting the Dual SIM version FYI. I use T-mobile.
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Is the N930FD the most compatible for T-Mobile and will have development support?
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Hello all, I was planning on getting the Note 10 plus international to use on ATT in the US. The reason being is because the Exynos has support for rooting and custom roms. My question is if i were to purchase the international version, what would be the difference between the 5G and regular 4G? Would the 5G work in the US? Regular bands seems identical on both devices, but would the 5g also work once they are available?
Thank you in advance
I currently have the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 SM-N950F/DS Dual SIM. It been working great for the past couple of years.
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Hello all, I was planning on getting the Note 10 plus international to use on ATT in the US. The reason being is because the Exynos has support for rooting and custom roms. My question is if i were to purchase the international version, what would be the difference between the 5G and regular 4G? Would the 5G work in the US? Regular bands seems identical on both devices, but would the 5g also work once they are available?
Thank you in advance
I currently have the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 SM-N950F/DS Dual SIM. It been working great for the past couple of years.
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This is up to you if you want too future proof the device with getting 5h or not so? I recall 5g will be rolling out slowly in the US.
Thats the idea, but will it actually work? On att in the US if I purchase the international 5g model?
Ps. Is the snapdragon versions still an issue to install custom roms?
I don't know if it's important for you, but the 5g model is single sim only. Dual sim is only available on the 4g version.
Had the dual sim for my note 8 because of availability, but I do not have a need for the dual sim. Just was curious as to the band compatibility of 5g because i cant find anywhere where it states that the european 5g is the same as us 5g
I have att network and I'm interested in buying the note 10+ 5g but can't figure out which variant is better. Which one would be the one that developers would probably be doing roms for in your opinions? Or if I buy a SM-N976B I can flash SM-N976n custom firmware?
Anybody? Or it doesn't matter?
look at this. then look at the forums see what's the most active
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look at this. then look at the forums see what's the most active View attachment 4849609
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That's a 4g model... I'm asking about the 5g version
To my understanding there's the SM-N976B, SM-N976F and SM-N976N versions... There is also a SM-N9760 d/S version... Don't know what would be the better international version to buy. Can anybody elaborate?
EDIT: which one would be the "global" version? Can't find this info anywhere
EDIT 2: Can anyone confirm the n976b is the better global factory unlocked version? I just saw it covers more bands than the rest in this link
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-5g-sm-n976-model-number-differences/
m_reyna_16 said:
That's a 4g model... I'm asking about the 5g version
To my understanding there's the SM-N976B, SM-N976F and SM-N976N versions... There is also a SM-N9760 d/S version... Don't know what would be the better international version to buy. Can anybody elaborate?
EDIT: which one would be the "global" version? Can't find this info anywhere
EDIT 2: Can anyone confirm the n976b is the better global factory unlocked version? I just saw it covers more bands than the rest in this link
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-5g-sm-n976-model-number-differences/
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The SM-N976F and SM-N9760/DS would be your global unlocked versions. The N976F uses the slightly slower Exynos and the N9760 uses the Snapdragon. Both allow you to unlock the bootloader. I went with the regular Note 10 + SM-N9750/DS, it works great on T-Mobile for me.
ajsmsg78 said:
The SM-N976F and SM-N9760/DS would be your global unlocked versions. The N976F uses the slightly slower Exynos and the N9760 uses the Snapdragon. Both allow you to unlock the bootloader. I went with the regular Note 10 + SM-N9750/DS, it works great on T-Mobile for me.
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Can't find the n9760 for sale in the US tho
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Can't find the n9760 for sale in the US tho
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N9760 is the 5G Chinese variant that has dual sim. You are unlikely to find that outside of China and you will miss out on Google Play Store.
There isn't one 5G variant that is global since none of the variant covers all 5G bands around the world. Heck, even the US versions have 2 variants for compatibility with different carriers.
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N9760 is the 5G Chinese variant that has dual sim. You are unlikely to find that outside of China and you will miss out on Google Play Store.
There isn't one 5G variant that is global since none of the variant covers all 5G bands around the world. Heck, even the US versions have 2 variants for compatibility with different carriers.
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But if I were to find the Chinese version, Google play would just be software related wouldn't it?
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But if I were to find the Chinese version, Google play would just be software related wouldn't it?
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yup, that would be software related but the 5G network compatibility would be the hard problem to solve.
meowone said:
yup, that would be software related but the 5G network compatibility would be the hard problem to solve.
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Since we're talking about if I were able to get a Chinese version... I would just need to make sure the bands are the same right?
What I am saying is that the 5G technologies won't be the same around the world thus it wouldn't be a global phone no matter which variant you get.
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What I am saying is that the 5G technologies won't be the same around the world thus it wouldn't be a global phone no matter which variant you get.
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When it comes to flashing, rooting, etc... What's the difference between the SM-N976B and SM-N976F? Sorry been using Oneplus devices for the past 5 or 6 yrs... My last Samsung phone was an AT&T Note 4 and I've been out of the Samsung game for a while
m_reyna_16 said:
When it comes to flashing, rooting, etc... What's the difference between the SM-N976B and SM-N976F? Sorry been using Oneplus devices for the past 5 or 6 yrs... My last Samsung phone was an AT&T Note 4 and I've been out of the Samsung game for a while
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SM-N975F is LTE note 10+ Sm-N976B is 5G Model
SM-N976F is international N976B is UK from what it looks like
minidude2012 said:
SM-N975F is LTE note 10+ Sm-N976B is 5G Model
SM-N976F is international N976B is UK from what it looks like
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OK cool thanks
m_reyna_16 said:
When it comes to flashing, rooting, etc... What's the difference between the SM-N976B and SM-N976F? Sorry been using Oneplus devices for the past 5 or 6 yrs... My last Samsung phone was an AT&T Note 4 and I've been out of the Samsung game for a while
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Also, in terms of rooting & custom ROMs, Exynos variants are more likely to have it than Snapdragons.
I'm in UK and refuse to buy anything exynos. Hence why I own a N9750 Snapdragon note 10+ imported from HK
No issues with anything in the UK. Samsung pay, WiFi calling, volte all work OK
Hate the fact Samsung give us in Europe an inferior SoC
bigup7 said:
I'm in UK and refuse to buy anything exynos. Hence why I own a N9750 Snapdragon note 10+ imported from HK
No issues with anything in the UK. Samsung pay, WiFi calling, volte all work OK
Hate the fact Samsung give us in Europe an inferior SoC
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Why do u dislike Exynos?
m_reyna_16 said:
Why do u dislike Exynos?
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As stated above, Hate the fact Samsung give us in Europe an inferior SoC
bigup7 said:
As stated above, Hate the fact Samsung give us in Europe an inferior SoC
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What's SoC?
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What's SoC?
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The CPU architecture. European has Exynos typically.