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I want to buy mhl cable for my note, the thing is, I'm not familiar with this technology at all, seen a few videos where mhl won't work unless its plugged into a power source, which might be an inconvenience as it requires u to carry the charger.
How is the image quality on the screen? 1080?
Anyone with good experience can tell me a way around this, more into less wires carried around?
and a good mhl cable link to buy from, cos there r thousands out there...
Sorry for such question but this is my first Samsung device (coming from desire HD)
Cheers.
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I've yet to receive my Note but coming from a GSII I can answer a few things.
Unfortunately, yes you will need to have a power cable plugged into the MHL adapter, and I don't believe there is any workaround.
The effective resolution on the TV will be mirrored from the phone's native resolution. So a phone that is 480x800 will only mirror that resolution throughout the OS. Only when playing HD content will the phone put out 720/1080(p/i) effective resolution.
The great thing with the Note is that because the native res. is already 1280x800, that will be the res displayed on the TV which will be great for web browsing as that's about an average laptop res.
Any MHL adapter should do. I bought a cheap one from expansys and it works without a hitch. Just read any comments on the product to see if previous buyers said it doesn't work on a recent device.
I bought genuine Samsung from Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LGUDKK/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
It arrived as advertised and works great!
thank you for the feedback , i bought http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0060Z8CYK from amazon uk , it has a discount on it for the time being.
will report once i get it.
cheers
Goodm7sn said:
thank you for the feedback , i bought http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0060Z8CYK from amazon uk , it has a discount on it for the time being.
will report once i get it.
cheers
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I bought a non Samsung one on ebay and am having problems. The connection keeps breaking down and re establishing (the video on the phone continues). I've tried 3 chargers and 2 cables. The MHL adapter gets warm also. I was looking into getting a genuine version from Samsung and looked at Amazon (UK). 1 reviewer had doubts about the authenticity of the device he received, fearing it to be a counterfeit.
4braid said:
I bought a non Samsung one on ebay and am having problems. The connection keeps breaking down and re establishing (the video on the phone continues).
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I had this issue a couple times on my GSII and I found that using SetCPU to lock the clock speed up to 1GHz+ [depending] helped and basically removed the issue, so give that a try and see if it did anything.
charging through HDMI
isnt the HDMI TV port supposed to charge the device , or provide enough power for the adaptor to work ?
not all models can provide power through HDMI but some newr ones can i suppose ? i read that somewhere so long ago but i cant find it anymore to link as a reference , though im not quite 100% sure of that , ,may be it me saying non-sense ??
cheers
DarkShot666 said:
I've yet to receive my Note but coming from a GSII I can answer a few things.
Unfortunately, yes you will need to have a power cable plugged into the MHL adapter, and I don't believe there is any workaround.
The effective resolution on the TV will be mirrored from the phone's native resolution. So a phone that is 480x800 will only mirror that resolution throughout the OS. Only when playing HD content will the phone put out 720/1080(p/i) effective resolution.
The great thing with the Note is that because the native res. is already 1280x800, that will be the res displayed on the TV which will be great for web browsing as that's about an average laptop res.
Any MHL adapter should do. I bought a cheap one from expansys and it works without a hitch. Just read any comments on the product to see if previous buyers said it doesn't work on a recent device.
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DarkShot666 said:
I had this issue a couple times on my GSII and I found that using SetCPU to lock the clock speed up to 1GHz+ [depending] helped and basically removed the issue, so give that a try and see if it did anything.
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Thanks for the advice. Have just installed setCPU with minimum speed of 1000 but still getting disconnections. Am not sure, however, how to use setCPU so the min CPU speed might not have been saved.
Goodm7sn said:
isnt the HDMI TV port supposed to charge the device , or provide enough power for the adaptor to work ?
not all models can provide power through HDMI but some newr ones can i suppose ? i read that somewhere so long ago but i cant find it anymore to link as a reference , though im not quite 100% sure of that , ,may be it me saying non-sense ??
cheers
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From what I recall, TVs that support MHL will provide the adapter with power so the power cable can be used to charge the phone while plugged into the adapter. I might however, not be 100% correct.
4braid said:
Thanks for the advice. Have just installed setCPU with minimum speed of 1000 but still getting disconnections. Am not sure, however, how to use setCPU so the min CPU speed might not have been saved.
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Odd. Have you tried to set SetCPU to performance with the top clock speed at 1.4GHz or higher? That could potentially help.
Cheers.
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Odd. Have you tried to set SetCPU to performance with the top clock speed at 1.4GHz or higher? That could potentially help.
Cheers.
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Will give it a try, thanks.
4braid said:
I bought a non Samsung one on ebay and am having problems. The connection keeps breaking down and re establishing (the video on the phone continues). I've tried 3 chargers and 2 cables. The MHL adapter gets warm also. I was looking into getting a genuine version from Samsung and looked at Amazon (UK). 1 reviewer had doubts about the authenticity of the device he received, fearing it to be a counterfeit.
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Hi there !
I've got the same problem than you, 4braid. Connect/disconnect every 1 or 2 minutes while playing a movie. Perhaps is it a software problem ? I use MX Video Player. What is yours ?
Samsung told me that SGS 2 cables were ok and, more than this, that every MHL cable should work. So, do we need to buy a Samsung cable to test ??
manu_katz said:
Hi there !
I've got the same problem than you, 4braid. Connect/disconnect every 1 or 2 minutes while playing a movie. Perhaps is it a software problem ? I use MX Video Player. What is yours ?
Samsung told me that SGS 2 cables were ok and, more than this, that every MHL cable should work. So, do we need to buy a Samsung cable to test ??
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Hi, I am using the default player but I don't think it's the problem as the video continues to play on the phone when the TV cuts out. Also, I've tried playing Asphalt HD through the TV and the same thing happens.
I'm gonna try another better HDMI cable and another app, just tu know if it's better. Perhaps will I have to try also with the branded Samsung MHL cable ?
I bought a non-samsung aswell.
Tried it and it works flawlessly on my LG plasma.
Tried several apps and sources.
Hi,
I think I got a clue !
In fact, it's not so easy to explain but I'm gonna try...
I have put my new HDMI cable between my Galaxy Note and my HD tv. I have watched a new movie with the same video player (MX video player) and I notice great results : no disconnections ! I was very excited and tried the movie that I was watching last time with problerms. And, then, no problems this time ! So happy again !
But that's not finished. Listen...
At a moment, it cuts ! And 4 seconds later my phone rings. I answear and watch my movie again. A few minutes later, a new cut ! And 4 seconds later, my phone rings a second time. I don't answear and the movie goes on. 15 seconds later, my movie stops again and my phone ring to show me that I have a message.
It seems that the phone network is not transparent in that case. More, that not only the fact that phone calls stop the MHL transfer (like the camera application do) because, otherwise, the signal should have stopped at the moment of the phone rings and not 4 seconds before. These 4 seconds are the time, for the phone, to switch between Wifi network to 3G network ! And, that's a fact, I was connected with Wifi during time where my MHL connection worked.
I'm not sure of being clear in my explanations but, if you ever put your phone near a amplified device, there's a symptomatic noise every x seconds or minutes when the phone look for a signal on the phone network (something like bzzz bzzz bzzz). Well, I think that each time that event arrives, the MHL link is "broken" for a little time.
To be sure, I tried somethig else : I have disconnected Wifi and used only 3G network and my disconnections returned back frequently ! I have reconnected my phone to Wifi and I have no disconnections problems again !!
So strange, isn't it ??
Perhaps the distance between my phone and my tv plays too ? It seems that a good quality HDMI cable is a good thing too.
Well, 4braid, could you try to use Wifi a short moment (or even cut the phone network by puting your phone in airplane mode) to test and tell me the result ?
manu_katz said:
Hi,
I think I got a clue !
In fact, it's not so easy to explain but I'm gonna try...
I have put my new HDMI cable between my Galaxy Note and my HD tv. I have watched a new movie with the same video player (MX video player) and I notice great results : no disconnections ! I was very excited and tried the movie that I was watching last time with problerms. And, then, no problems this time ! So happy again !
But that's not finished. Listen...
At a moment, it cuts ! And 4 seconds later my phone rings. I answear and watch my movie again. A few minutes later, a new cut ! And 4 seconds later, my phone rings a second time. I don't answear and the movie goes on. 15 seconds later, my movie stops again and my phone ring to show me that I have a message.
It seems that the phone network is not transparent in that case. More, that not only the fact that phone calls stop the MHL transfer (like the camera application do) because, otherwise, the signal should have stopped at the moment of the phone rings and not 4 seconds before. These 4 seconds are the time, for the phone, to switch between Wifi network to 3G network ! And, that's a fact, I was connected with Wifi during time where my MHL connection worked.
I'm not sure of being clear in my explanations but, if you ever put your phone near a amplified device, there's a symptomatic noise every x seconds or minutes when the phone look for a signal on the phone network (something like bzzz bzzz bzzz). Well, I think that each time that event arrives, the MHL link is "broken" for a little time.
To be sure, I tried somethig else : I have disconnected Wifi and used only 3G network and my disconnections returned back frequently ! I have reconnected my phone to Wifi and I have no disconnections problems again !!
So strange, isn't it ??
Perhaps the distance between my phone and my tv plays too ? It seems that a good quality HDMI cable is a good thing too.
Well, 4braid, could you try to use Wifi a short moment (or even cut the phone network by puting your phone in airplane mode) to test and tell me the result ?
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Hi manu_katz,
You are a true genius!!!
Switched to flight mode and played a video with no problems (even tried a game).
Cancelled flight mode and signal to TV lost in less than a minute (video continued on phone). After picture returned to TV I called the phone from my landline and as soon as I pressed the last digit of the telephone number the signal was lost and 4 seconds later the phone rang. Also happened when I sent SMS to myself. I suppose this will happen every time the device "phones home". Many thanks for your info. you have saved my from buying a genuine Samsung MHL adaptor.
Great to hear I was right !
Me too, I have seen a movie entirely, yesterday night !
As I said, perhaps is there ways to correct the problem without need of cutting 3G network (like the fact to use a branded cable or the distance between phone and tv) but for now we find the way to use our f*** not branded cable ! Lol !!
Are you able to see the srt subtitles on the tv screen with the mhl cable? I can only see them on the phone screen but not on the tv.
paris.gr said:
Are you able to see the srt subtitles on the tv screen with the mhl cable? I can only see them on the phone screen but not on the tv.
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I've encountered that issue too. It's a shame unfortunately, but the only way I've found to get them to work is to use software decoding. It's a downer, but it does work.
I've got a strange problem with my third party cable (similar to this one: http://www.lunashops.co.uk/goods-935.html). It seems like the output is cropped on the top and bottom (so the notification screen and dock are cut off). I've already tried all the aspect ratio settings on both of my TVs (1 HD Ready and 1 Full HD), so that isn't it. Has anyone else experienced this before?
I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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I've played FF7 via FPSe piped to my TV using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter for about 2 hours straight and never noticed any issues. Works great. And I got it for $16 off eBay shipping included.
ctomgee said:
I've played FF7 via FPSe piped to my TV using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter for about 2 hours straight and never noticed any issues. Works great. And I got it for $16 off eBay shipping included.
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Sounds like an idea. I use mine for FPSE as well. And N64oid. Spent about an hour playing Super Smash Brothers before work today. Only cut out about three times during that run, lol.
In my experience the cutting is interference from the phones antenna , tried it in airplane mode? WiFi doesnt interfere.
Bloodrainer said:
In my experience the cutting is interference from the phones antenna , tried it in airplane mode? WiFi doesnt interfere.
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Have not tried airplane mode. Mostly, this is because I often use it as a desktop computer. Actually does the job fairly well. 19" flatscreen TV, BT keyboard and mouse, web browsing becomes a much more pleasant experience.
Mozilla needs to get off their asses and add an option to change the text size though. Dolphin works great but doesn't agree with some sites.
Indeed, that type of use shows the awesomeness of this device, i sometimes use Ubuntu, there's a nice package posted somewhere here, Firefox, GIMP etc on a cellphone is amazing. But enough of that ot, if airplane mode doesn't give you those cuts then when reconnected to cells try to position the cable in a way that it wont catch so much interference, i connect it to a 27" tv/monitor/tuner/almost coffee maker combo, and depending on positioning i can catch the moment when i'm going to loose signal by the tv's speakers catching the interference. Maybe you can find a position where it wont cut, i was able to position it in a safe way, so i believe it might be the lack of any screening at the chip on the cheap design.
one quick question i bought the mhl adapter from dealextreme a while ago but i´ve never really used till now since i bought a ps3 controller, my question regards image quality.
I am aware that the mhl adapter that i bought it isn´t the official but many people rated it high quality, when i play for example an emulator or riptige gp the image quality looks a lot better on the phone than it does on a tv or pc monitor, i´ve tested both, i don´t know if its just because the screen is smaller the image looks sharper but for example playing mario 64 on a big screen the image looks a bit squared/pixelated.
I even installed a pc emulator to compare (looks better), forced anti aliasing with chainfire and still looks pixelated.
The info that appears on my monitor is that the image is working at 1080i 1920*1080.
Is this normal ?
I have the official Samsung MHL adapter. It works great, the only issue is the display is a little bit trimmed off from the top and bottom. I have checked it on multiple TVs so I don't think TV settings are the issue.
mousiope, i know what you mean, it may be disorienting a bit, this is how it works.
The cable output is HD, but its only cloning the phones screen resolution when not playing high res videos, thats what produces the low resolution view on the monitor, so yes, it is because on the small screen it looks sharper. I noticed that on the emulators this is even more visible than on other uses, maybe the emulator itself is generating lower res than phones screen? never really looked at it. Try to change the LCD Density, its not quite the same than higher resolution but helps a little (mind tho that touchwiz doesnt scle properly with changes in lcd density, meaning it gets a little messy, small font, 4 icons per row always etc).
flippity, i never noticed trimming on my MHL output. Will check it tho.
Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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My original adapter has cuts followed by a horrible noise. It was a lot worse when i used the charger that comes with the phone, probably the electrical distribution in my block sucks. Powering the adapter with USB power from my notebook almost solved the problem.
But it's quite pointless powering the cellphone with a computer instead of just using the computer's HDMI... In fact the MHL support sucks IMO, the only true 1080i/p is the video player, not even the photo viewer supports it! The other manufacturers like HTC, LG, Motorola and even NVidia had the descence of releasing an API enabling this functionality since it's not supported by Android itself.
Now that Bloodrainer mentioned, I never used the MHL in airplane mode... interesting...
Well, i get nasty noise in audio output when connected to a cheap car charger, so yea, i'd vote for your houses electric wiring, sadly i dont know much about electrics my vote would be to try a grounded plug with a surge protector?
Bloodrainer said:
mousiope, i know what you mean, it may be disorienting a bit, this is how it works.
The cable output is HD, but its only cloning the phones screen resolution when not playing high res videos, thats what produces the low resolution view on the monitor, so yes, it is because on the small screen it looks sharper. I noticed that on the emulators this is even more visible than on other uses, maybe the emulator itself is generating lower res than phones screen? never really looked at it. Try to change the LCD Density, its not quite the same than higher resolution but helps a little (mind tho that touchwiz doesnt scle properly with changes in lcd density, meaning it gets a little messy, small font, 4 icons per row always etc).
flippity, i never noticed trimming on my MHL output. Will check it tho.
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hmmm i see ill give it a try
does cm9 support mhl or the ics leaked sammy rom!? will the api support be available with ics?
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No clue about api support, none of the AOSP based roms suport MHL, as it requires much of the samsungs frame and stuff, so sadly cm, miui, etc dont support MHL, not tried the leaked ICS yet, but i belive it should support MHL as its samsung's release.
Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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I have bought original MHL adapter and i face d exact same issue. I have tried various media players, stock ROMs, stock kernels and still d same issue keeps coming
See this post 297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036874
Hope someone can help finding exact cause of this issue
mousiope said:
hmmm i see ill give it a try
does cm9 support mhl or the ics leaked sammy rom!? will the api support be available with ics?
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not yet, but i hope that in the next leak they will fix this
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not yet, but i hope that in the next leak they will fix this
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incorrect i use the stock lp6 leaked rom and my samsung mhl adapter works fine.
I entered Flight Mode as Bloodrainer said, and apparently this fixed the cuts.
Does Cyanogenmod7 allow you to output in full 1080p?
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Does Cyanogenmod7 allow you to output in full 1080p?
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I didn't think CyanogenMod supported MHL out at all...
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I am experiencing weird bug. Connecting to DVI monitor through adapter direct forces 640x480. Through AV receiver black screen at all, only audio works. I guess my monitor or adapter is the reason, however this setup works well with raspberry pi (1280x1024).
Does anybody using HDMI to DVI adapters to connect Fire Tv? Is there any way to force resolution? Changing through gui is disabled for me.
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I'm having a similar problem. My TV is old and doesn't have an HDMI port, so I'm using an HDMI to DVI adapter as I did with my Pi. My screen goes black right after "Checking for Updates"
This is apparently an HDCP issue, which I don't know much about. My TV's DVI port is supposed to be HDCP compatible. There are "active" adapters that can fool the Fire TV and make it work, apparently, but I'm trying to get it working without having to spend another $30 on another stupid adapter.
It's a very disappointing bug, I guess. When I connecting it through receiver my monitor shows 1280x720 but screen is always black. However rarely I can catch flickering with signal. It means monitor support this (720p) resolution. On direct connection it works, but at 640x480 and not allow to change resolution. I thinking about buying optical audio cable to connect it to receiver directly but it's about 30$ and resolutions is so odd. I hope this will be fixed with new OTA. So if anyone is thinking about to buy Fire TV to use with DVI monitor, right now it looks like a bad idea. I'd rather bought something other if know that.
iRet said:
It's a very disappointing bug, I guess. When I connecting it through receiver my monitor shows 1280x720 but screen is always black. However rarely I can catch flickering with signal. It means monitor support this (720p) resolution. On direct connection it works, but at 640x480 and not allow to change resolution. I thinking about buying optical audio cable to connect it to receiver directly but it's about 30$ and resolutions is so odd. I hope this will be fixed with new OTA. So if anyone is thinking about to buy Fire TV to use with DVI monitor, right now it looks like a bad idea. I'd rather bought something other if know that.
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I got my TOSLINK cable for about $5 (with Prime shipping) from Amazon, and a TOSLINK to stereo RCA converter from eBay for $13.
When you get the black screen, if you unplug the HDMI and plug it back in with the right timing (fairly quickly but not too quickly) you can kind of make it work. It looks like crap but the menus are navigable. The first time, I had colorful static with the clear picture flashing through every 5 seconds or so. I reseated the HDMI cable again a few more times and it came up clear (except for the terrible resolution).
Thank, I will check for cheaper dealer. The price I've talking about is for belkin cable. As for you hack thanks for information may be it will be helpful for someone. Behaviour you describing stopped for me after first OTA. Right now I always get crap resolution on direct connection without flickering. But before update it flickers continuously too. I hope next OTA will fix it. May be drop a line to amazon is make sense?
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Finally I've bought a cheap TOSLINK cable, and was really disappointed to find it almost quiet. For an hour trying to switch different modes on Fire TV and AV receiver. My last hope was factory reset and it helps, so, I'm with sound right now it's much better, but still on a crap resolution. I hope Amazon will fit it, I believe hardware is ok.
Sound works for a day and again disappeared. I think for some reason device forced routing it to HDMI. I've just leave it along for a day and after woke up uncovered no sound. However receiver show, that signal is ok, if not it is blinking. But signal is silence. I started to think about selling this piece of crap.
I found some info about this bug. It's a well known android problem.
Some sources mention it was fixed since 3.8 kernel issued.
Current firmware incorporates 3.4. I hope next update will fix this.
iRet said:
I found some info about this bug. It's a well known android problem.
Some sources mention it was fixed since 3.8 kernel issued.
Current firmware incorporates 3.4. I hope next update will fix this.
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Any updates on the situation? I was hoping to temporarily connect my Fire TV to a monitor that also only has DVI input. I do have an HDMI-DVI-cable but it's going to be another two weeks unti the actual Fire TV is released here in Germany.
jpde said:
Any updates on the situation? I was hoping to temporarily connect my Fire TV to a monitor that also only has DVI input. I do have an HDMI-DVI-cable but it's going to be another two weeks unti the actual Fire TV is released here in Germany.
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The last version I've checked was second update which not affects root. And problem still present. However with low resolution it works, I believe this is a kind of safe mode. Currently my monitor is burned out, so no news.
iRet said:
The last version I've checked was second update which not affects root. And problem still present. However with low resolution it works, I believe this is a kind of safe mode. Currently my monitor is burned out, so no news.
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Man I really wish they could fix this or have a workaround!
mastermind85 said:
Man I really wish they could fix this or have a workaround!
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Well, finally, I've checked this DVI-HDMI adapter with brand new monitor and got the same results. Possibly it's an adapter issue. However Raspberry Pi works well through it, but Fire TV only in safe mode on two different displays.
iRet said:
Well, finally, I've checked this DVI-HDMI adapter with brand new monitor and got the same results. Possibly it's an adapter issue. However Raspberry Pi works well through it, but Fire TV only in safe mode on two different displays.
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I would imagine there is a way to have a modified android that doesnt default to safe mode automatically?
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I would imagine there is a way to have a modified android that doesnt default to safe mode automatically?
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Not sure for android, I'm playing with Fedora on this devise, but not yet checked through this adapter connecting directly to new display. Will check with adapter this weekends.
iRet said:
Not sure for android, I'm playing with Fedora on this devise, but not yet checked through this adapter connecting directly to new display. Will check with adapter this weekends.
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Did anyone manage to work out a solution?
I'm having a similar issue with an hdmi to dvi adapter - works fine if hooking up to a monitor via hdmi, but if using the adapter it only outputs 480p - and says the monitor doesn't support higher resolutions. I'd love to be able to use the AFTV with an older, larger DVI-only monitor that I have.
New FireTV, unrooted, running software version 51.1.4.1_user_514013920. Running SPMC 13.3.3.
After maybe a day of use, the audio on the FireTV develops an high-pitched 'whistle' effect. It's not a constant whistle. It only accompanies the sound you are hearing. It is more noticeable the louder the audio. If I reboot the FireTV, the problem goes away for while. It affects all audio system-wide including SPMC (I spend most time in SPMC, don't use Amazon apps much yet).
FireTV audio set to 'Dolby Digital Plus Off' but happens no matter what FireTV audio setting is. If I unplug HDMI and plug back in, problem persists. Rebooting FireTV fixes it (until the next day when it recurs).
Youtube video of the issue - playing the Amazon intro video- When he says 'Hello, and Welcome.' you can really hear it.
Amazon Fire TV- Audio high-pitched 'whistle' artifact - 2014-11-30 ( firmware: 51.1.4.1_user_514013920 )
http://youtu.be/yp7rzrNMyi0
Amazon Fire TV- Normal audio after a reboot - 2014-11-30 ( firmware: 51.1.4.1_user_514013920 )
http://youtu.be/27WxbMgBzbM
Is anyone else having this issue? I exchanged another FireTV at the store because I thought the device was defective, but here it is happening again. What is going on here.
twqwctf said:
New FireTV, unrooted, running software version 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 which is latest as of 11/19/2014. Running SPMC 13.3.3.
After maybe a day of use, the audio on the FireTV develops an high-pitched distortion effect. It is more noticeable the louder the audio. If I reboot the FireTV, the problem goes away for while. It affects all audio system-wide including SPMC (I spend most time in SPMC, don't use Amazon apps much yet).
FireTV audio set to 'Dolby Digital Plus Off' but happens no matter what FireTV audio setting is. If I unplug HDMI and plug back in, problem persists. Rebooting FireTV fixes it (until the next day when it recurs).
Youtube video of the issue - playing the Amazon intro video- When he says 'Hello!' you can really hear it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2igVaVe6RmI
Is anyone else having this issue? I exchanged another FireTV at the store because I thought the device was defective, but here it is happening again. What is going on here.
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I can NOT hear any distortion at all on the youtube vid you link. Sounds fine to me. I turned the volume up and turned off anything making noise. Sorry I'm not of any help.
nyder said:
I can NOT hear any distortion at all on the youtube vid you link. Sounds fine to me. I turned the volume up and turned off anything making noise. Sorry I'm not of any help.
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There is this high pitched whistle sound. It's obvious. When he says "Hello, and Welcome" for example, the high pitched whistle is very clearly heard.\
You know, it's not 'distortion'. I chose the wrong word. It's a high pitched whistle sound. That's the best I can describe it. My 12-year old walked in and noticed it. I know it's not just me LOL.
twqwctf said:
There is this high pitched whistle sound. It's obvious. When he says "Hello, and Welcome" for example, the high pitched whistle is very clearly heard.\
You know, it's not 'distortion'. I chose the wrong word. It's a high pitched whistle sound. That's the best I can describe it.
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I'm sorry, it's not obvious to me. Have you tried taking your AFTV to a neighbors/friends house and seeing if it has the same problem on their TV? This way you can rule out your TV as the cause. Another thing to try is a different HDMI cable.
nyder said:
I'm sorry, it's not obvious to me. Have you tried taking your AFTV to a neighbors/friends house and seeing if it has the same problem on their TV? This way you can rule out your TV as the cause. Another thing to try is a different HDMI cable.
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How can it be my TV or HDMI cable if I unplug the FireTV then plug it back in (reboot it) and the problem goes away? It is an old TV (from 2003 I think), I'll give you that.
(What I need to do (tomorrow) is record another Youtube video (A vs. B) so the difference can be clearly distinguished. I'll post again tomorrow )
twqwctf said:
How can it be my TV or HDMI cable if I unplug the FireTV then plug it back in (reboot it) and the problem goes away? It is an old TV (from 2003 I think), I'll give you that.
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It's about finding what the problem is. By using a different TV, you can rule out if it's an AFTV problem, or possibly your TV. You said you returned another AFTV for the same problem already, and 2 of them have the same problem, which isn't common, and you getting both? Not very likely.
So if we rule out the TV and can rule out the HDMI, then it leaves that you got very unlucky and got 2 AFTV's that ended up with the same problem.
And do you happen to hear the sound loudest when you have a mostly white screen?
nyder said:
It's about finding what the problem is. By using a different TV, you can rule out if it's an AFTV problem, or possibly your TV. You said you returned another AFTV for the same problem already, and 2 of them have the same problem, which isn't common, and you getting both? Not very likely.
So if we rule out the TV and can rule out the HDMI, then it leaves that you got very unlucky and got 2 AFTV's that ended up with the same problem.
And do you happen to hear the sound loudest when you have a mostly white screen?
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I hadn't noticed a correlation between whites in the screen and the audio anomaly. I'll have to go back tomorrow and inspect further. I hear your suggestions about ruling out the TV and cable. I have another cable so I will try that very soon. I also have another TV- I will try that one also. I will update this thread as I find out. Thank you kindly!!
twqwctf said:
I hadn't noticed a correlation between whites in the screen and the audio anomaly. I'll have to go back tomorrow and inspect further. I hear your suggestions about ruling out the TV and cable. I have another cable so I will try that very soon. I also have another TV- I will try that one also. I will update this thread as I find out. Thank you kindly!!
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I don't have a fire TV but it sounds like a crappy HDMI cable. Try a different brand then what you are using. I had got some cheap HDMI cables from amazon and this happened to me with one of my bluray players and a computer.
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I have a gold tipped Vizio HDMI cable that I got from Wal-Mart at an inexpensive price.
I've never had any problems with it at all.
Look for a gold tipped one with 4K support like my Vizio HDMI cable.
Even when FTV is max 1080P,it helps tons that the HDMI cable supports an even higher resolution.
retroben said:
I have a gold tipped Vizio HDMI cable that I got from Wal-Mart at an inexpensive price.
I've never had any problems with it at all.
Look for a gold tipped one with 4K support like my Vizio HDMI cable.
Even when FTV is max 1080P,it helps tons that the HDMI cable supports an even higher resolution.
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I'm going to troubleshoot with a different HDMI cable. However, it is confusing to me how a reboot of the FireTV would resolve the audio issue completely (for a while) with the same HDMI cable. Can a low-quality HDMI cable degrade or become corrupt during it's connection to the display over time?
twqwctf said:
I'm going to troubleshoot with a different HDMI cable. However, it is confusing to me how a reboot of the FireTV would resolve the audio issue completely (for a while) with the same HDMI cable. Can a low-quality HDMI cable degrade or become corrupt during it's connection to the display over time?
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i'd agree, but you should still try, maybe its the TV, when the FireTV sends different audio sources with like different bitrates or number of channels or something to your TV its somehow borking or mis interpreting the signal.. doesnt happen all the time because there could be something in some video content somewhere at some point triggering it to mess up.. but you would think a TV reset would fix it.. did you try unplugging the TV and just leaving the fireTV running and seeing what happens when you power the TV back up?
It could be electrical noise. Try a different outlet / circuit and see if that helps. It also could be noise / interference picked up in the HDMI cable.
martian21 said:
It could be electrical noise. Try a different outlet / circuit and see if that helps. It also could be noise / interference picked up in the HDMI cable.
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<<did you try unplugging the TV and just leaving the fireTV running and seeing what happens when you power the TV back up?>>
Haven't tried that. Will do and update this thread. It will take some time as the problem re-appears after about a day.. Thanks!!
The Vizio HDMI cable was my replacement for a cheap nickel-plated GE HDMI cable that had major issues such as Slenderman static randomly appearing.
Words Of Advice:Make sure to always go for gold-plated HDMI cables,avoiding the cheap nickel-plated ones.
Today it's 11/20/2014. System update must have applied.
was: 51.1.4.0_user_514006420
now: 51.1.4.1_user_514013920
retroben said:
The Vizio HDMI cable was my replacement for a cheap nickel-plated GE HDMI cable that had major issues such as Slenderman static randomly appearing.
Words Of Advice:Make sure to always go for gold-plated HDMI cables,avoiding the cheap nickel-plated ones.
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I see the problem. It would drive me mad as well.
I have a cheap long hdmi cable. I highly doubt that will make a difference. Bestbuy always sells the gold plated one. As for the sound, test it directly to the TV. Are you going through a processor. I had mine go through the bose lifestyle 535 and I got a lot of distortion and I thought something was wrong with the firetv. Who would think anything would be wrong with bose. Eventually it turned out the bose got defective and bose changed the processor under warranty and the flicker is totally gone.
Try it direct on the TV and see what happens. if not try it on another tv and try isolating the problem one at a time. Test other hdmi cables as well.
navigates said:
I see the problem. It would drive me mad as well.
I have a cheap long hdmi cable. I highly doubt that will make a difference. Bestbuy always sells the gold plated one. As for the sound, test it directly to the TV. Are you going through a processor. I had mine go through the bose lifestyle 535 and I got a lot of distortion and I thought something was wrong with the firetv. Who would think anything would be wrong with bose. Eventually it turned out the bose got defective and bose changed the processor under warranty and the flicker is totally gone.
Try it direct on the TV and see what happens. if not try it on another tv and try isolating the problem one at a time. Test other hdmi cables as well.
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The FTV is connected directly to my old Panasonic TH-37PX50U (from 2004 I think). I'm still waiting for the audio whistling problem to recur again today.
twqwctf said:
The FTV is connected directly to my old Panasonic TH-37PX50U (from 2004 I think). I'm still waiting for the audio whistling problem to recur again today.
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does it happen with other sources? if not It may be the audio sync. If it still does not fix, then try hdmi to RC
If you still have issues, try researching on converting the hdmi to analog with left right maybe? something like the one below. since the tv is old, it may not be able to handle the hdmi signals correctly.?
http://www.amazon.com/SPDIF-Compone...T8SA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top#customerReviews
navigates said:
does it happen with other sources? if not It may be the audio sync. If it still does not fix, then try hdmi to RC
If you still have issues, try researching on converting the hdmi to analog with left right maybe? something like the one below. since the tv is old, it may not be able to handle the hdmi signals correctly.?
http://www.amazon.com/SPDIF-Compone...T8SA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top#customerReviews
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I had an older 2nd gen AppleTV connected to the same TV earlier. No issues there. I used that AppleTV for several years. Still waiting for the audio issue to happen again today..
twqwctf said:
I had an older 2nd gen AppleTV connected to the same TV earlier. No issues there. I used that AppleTV for several years. Still waiting for the audio issue to happen again today..
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the noise may come back. did you change out your hdmi cable. If it still happens. try the hdmi to component and see if it goes away. If you have a video processor like the bose or something else that may help too.
I'm trying to resurrect a 42" 1080p lcd which works fine except with certain devices (ps3, Sony Google TV, and of course aftv). Apple TV 2 & 3, roku xd and RPI all work. I've tried countless methods including power cycling and every HDMI cable I own. Plug in the aftv and it says "no signal"
This is not a problem specific to aftv but I figured somebody has had the same issue and maybe found a fix I haven't tried. I'd appreciate any ideas including causes. Seems obvious this is a handshake issue but why do some devices work and some don't? Ps3 is notorious for this but other devices like aftv not as much. I'd even be willing to buy an adapter if anyone's confident enough to think it might work...
Btw--no signal means exactly that. I don't get picture or sound. Google TV manifested differently, picture would flash on & off with sound. The other devices mentioned just yield "no signal"
Make sure you have a hdmi 1.4 cable.
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KLit75 said:
I'm trying to resurrect a 42" 1080p lcd which works fine except with certain devices (ps3, Sony Google TV, and of course aftv). Apple TV 2 & 3, roku xd and RPI all work. I've tried countless methods including power cycling and every HDMI cable I own. Plug in the aftv and it says "no signal"
This is not a problem specific to aftv but I figured somebody has had the same issue and maybe found a fix I haven't tried. I'd appreciate any ideas including causes. Seems obvious this is a handshake issue but why do some devices work and some don't? Ps3 is notorious for this but other devices like aftv not as much. I'd even be willing to buy an adapter if anyone's confident enough to think it might work...
Btw--no signal means exactly that. I don't get picture or sound. Google TV manifested differently, picture would flash on & off with sound. The other devices mentioned just yield "no signal"
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plug it into a working TV and set the display to 720p and then try your lcd
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Make sure you have a hdmi 1.4 cable.
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nhumber said:
plug it into a working TV and set the display to 720p and then try your lcd
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Thanks for the suggestions, but think i tried both already, unfortunately. Thats what makes it more puzzling.
Btw--i guess i cant say with 100% certainty i used 1.4 but ive gone through everyone i have, some were expensive gold tipped. Ill pay closer attention.
Also...i called my TV Manufacturer a while back & the rep said to try a cheaper/older one like a 1.1 or 1.0
If no devices worked this would be easy to diagnose but it being selective is really confusing.
KLit75 said:
Thanks for the suggestions, but think i tried both already, unfortunately. Thats what makes it more puzzling.
Btw--i guess i cant say with 100% certainty i used 1.4 but ive gone through everyone i have, some were expensive gold tipped. Ill pay closer attention.
Also...i called my TV Manufacturer a while back & the rep said to try a cheaper/older one like a 1.1 or 1.0
If no devices worked this would be easy to diagnose but it being selective is really confusing.
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one weird non-obvious thing about HDMI - the signal source, i.e. your console/tv-box/whatever is actually drawing a bit of power from the TV. not a huge amount, but something nominal.
this is one of the reasons why getting a not necessarily better but just different cable makes a difference - sometimes just the shortest cable you can manage. similarly setting lower resolution. (although you said you'd tried that)
could be your TV is getting old and maybe some components wearing out a little?
I had this exact problem a couple years ago with my no-name-brand generic 42" LCD and various Android sticks. the TV was decent in general, but it quite obviously was not supplying enough power on HDMI. lowering resolution to 720p fixed it, and I was eventually able to get 1080p by randomly finding the "right" cable.
another thing that worked (and is a really, really stupid going-backwards sub-sub-optimal solution) ... I tried a (powered) converter box that separates the HDMI signal out into VGA + 3.5mm stereo. seriously stupid in terms of getting decent resolution and in so many other ways. but it solved the power problem. (there are similar powered boxes that do DVI-out, and I think even ones that just go HDMI->HDMI, and only exist to e.g. break out the audio or other reasons)
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(or if you have an A/V receiver to borrow/test, try putting the signal through that)
tarvoke said:
one weird non-obvious thing about HDMI - the signal source, i.e. your console/tv-box/whatever is actually drawing a bit of power from the TV. not a huge amount, but something nominal.
this is one of the reasons why getting a not necessarily better but just different cable makes a difference - sometimes just the shortest cable you can manage. similarly setting lower resolution. (although you said you'd tried that)
could be your TV is getting old and maybe some components wearing out a little?
I had this exact problem a couple years ago with my no-name-brand generic 42" LCD and various Android sticks. the TV was decent in general, but it quite obviously was not supplying enough power on HDMI. lowering resolution to 720p fixed it, and I was eventually able to get 1080p by randomly finding the "right" cable.
another thing that worked (and is a really, really stupid going-backwards sub-sub-optimal solution) ... I tried a (powered) converter box that separates the HDMI signal out into VGA + 3.5mm stereo. seriously stupid in terms of getting decent resolution and in so many other ways. but it solved the power problem. (there are similar powered boxes that do DVI-out, and I think even ones that just go HDMI->HDMI, and only exist to e.g. break out the audio or other reasons)
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(or if you have an A/V receiver to borrow/test, try putting the signal through that)
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Youve given me lots of ideas. Thanks!
I have considered buying an adapter in the past, but not for this tv . Yes. I have many tvs and this is not the only "hdmi impaired" one.
My bedroom tv has an issue with audio cutting in and out indefinitely if the aftv is powered on before the tv. A reboot fixes the glitch but you can imagine how annoying that is. The solution posted here was an hdmi with pin 13 removed. Apparently theres only one company that makes these and imo they're a bit pricey. But I still might get one.
I hadnt considered buying one for this tv but if it fixes the issue i would. There is a way to remove pin 13 yourself , however, it requires tools i don't think i have. Plus i worry that damage could be done if i screw up. Also, im not certain if it would matter for the tv in the op but of course if i bought one i could try it on that tv.
I had a similar issue where the solution was to use a different cable. In my case was to use an HDMI to DVI cable where I proved my LCD was still working but had power issues. then I tried different HDMI cables and found one that finally worked with that LCD. the cable was long and came with my xbox one. all the other cables except those two wont work with that LCD monitor. They are happily married since then. Just to let you know that happens sometimes.
rueda said:
I had a similar issue where the solution was to use a different cable. In my case was to use an HDMI to DVI cable where I proved my LCD was still working but had power issues. then I tried different HDMI cables and found one that finally worked with that LCD. the cable was long and came with my xbox one. all the other cables except those two wont work with that LCD monitor. They are happily married since then. Just to let you know that happens sometimes.
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Just to see a conclusion to this thread...I got aftv working on this TV.
First, I switched it to 720p on a different TV
Then, I tried it--fail as usual BUT 3RD CABLE'S A CHARM!
Btw-- ps3 still won't work. That's probably why it took awhile to get aftv working (soooo many failed attempts with ps3) I though aftv would no doubt be the same.
Thanks for everyone's input!
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