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[Q] why is wifi so horrible on AOSP ROM's?

I've tried about many ROM's such as miui, CM7, decks, etc.... I've had no luck, the wifi is just so horrible in many places where in a sense ROM I'd have perfect wifi or good, compared to poor wifi disconnecting after a while.
Thanks for reading Anyone have a solution?

I use CM7 and have absolutely no problem with my wifi. Have you tried CM7? If so, have you tried anything else?

UndeadCircus said:
I use CM7 and have absolutely no problem with my wifi. Have you tried CM7? If so, have you tried anything else?
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Yeah I've tried it just bit ago and the past days as well but I'm sure it isn't a hardware issue because on nrg 3.5 rom from Nov18 my wifi works perfect where I would I couldn't get wifi signal at all on cm.

The problem is that sense doesn't show the right signal. Compare the speeds and you'll see what I mean
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Crossrocker said:
The problem is that sense doesn't show the right signal. Compare the speeds and you'll see what I mean
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It has nothing to do with speed, please read what I said... I lose signal on aosp ROM's on common areas that I get nearly excellent coverage in, note I tested this with airplane mode on to ensure my wifi doesn't disconnect and switch to 3G. A couple of other others on the miui thread have also said that same.

I'm using the new aosp ROM ice cream sandwich for my phone and wifi works like a charm. Using it now
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xyience said:
I'm using the new aosp ROM ice cream sandwich for my phone and wifi works like a charm. Using it now
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I'm guessing it has a new kernel? I will flash it tomorrow to see how it works, just to clarify, you are talking about the alpha build right?

CaliBoyPhillip said:
It has nothing to do with speed, please read what I said... I lose signal on aosp ROM's on common areas that I get nearly excellent coverage in, note I tested this with airplane mode on to ensure my wifi doesn't disconnect and switch to 3G. A couple of other others on the miui thread have also said that same.
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I don't think you understand what I said. Sense shows the wrong wifi signal. It shows 3 bars for me while aosp shows 1. Aosp shows true signal because I am far from the router
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702

Are you using the included kernel or flashing custom ones? While your signal may show lower, you shouldn't notice a drop in actual connectivity. Flashing an incompatible kernel, like a Sense kernel, can mess up your wifi.
I'm on MIUI right now showing a full wifi signal. I haven't used Sense in a very long time, but I don't remember getting better wifi reception while I was using it. I'm using Tiamat right now, maybe try a different kernel next time you flash AOSP and see if that helps. There are also a few tweaks you can do to help with your wifi signal, like changing the wifi scan interval in build.prop, but I haven't actually done anything like that since my signal is fine.
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plainjane said:
Are you using the included kernel or flashing custom ones? While your signal may show lower, you shouldn't notice a drop in actual connectivity. Flashing an incompatible kernel, like a Sense kernel, can mess up your wifi.
I'm on MIUI right now showing a full wifi signal. I haven't used Sense in a very long time, but I don't remember getting better wifi reception while I was using it. I'm using Tiamat right now, maybe try a different kernel next time you flash AOSP and see if that helps. There are also a few tweaks you can do to help with your wifi signal, like changing the wifi scan interval in build.prop, but I haven't actually done anything like that since my signal is fine.
Supersonic Evo 4G | MIUI | Tapatalk
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I've been sticking to the stock kernel that the ROM's have and savaged. I'll give the tiamat kernel a try with miui, what Tiamat version are you using so I can try it if not maybe I'll try getting a phone replacement to see if I might have a fault or evil mojo evo that hates aosp lol! hardware 004 here.

CaliBoyPhillip said:
I've been sticking to the stock kernel that the ROM's have and savaged. I'll give the tiamat kernel a try with miui, what Tiamat version are you using so I can try it if not maybe I'll try getting a phone replacement to see if I might have a fault or evil mojo evo that hates aosp lol! hardware 004 here.
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I've heard that 004s can be problematic, I have a 003 and only get issues when I go a while without wiping fully. I'm using 4.1.0 right now, start there and maybe try other versions if you want. I ran SZ for a while and it started off smooth but eventually got laggy and unresponsive at times despite anything I would do (wiping caches, etc). Switched back to Tiamat and all has been working well since.
Give it a go, if it doesn't work for you then maybe it's some kind of hardware issue. Just to be sure, do a full wipe and try to avoid restoring anything unless you absolutely have to - definitely don't restore system data. Unfortunately you can't take your phone in to Sprint and get a replacement since your wifi is dodgy on AOSP. If it happened on stock then you might have a case.
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plainjane said:
I've heard that 004s can be problematic, I have a 003 and only get issues when I go a while without wiping fully. I'm using 4.1.0 right now, start there and maybe try other versions if you want. I ran SZ for a while and it started off smooth but eventually got laggy and unresponsive at times despite anything I would do (wiping caches, etc). Switched back to Tiamat and all has been working well since.
Give it a go, if it doesn't work for you then maybe it's some kind of hardware issue. Just to be sure, do a full wipe and try to avoid restoring anything unless you absolutely have to - definitely don't restore system data. Unfortunately you can't take your phone in to Sprint and get a replacement since your wifi is dodgy on AOSP. If it happened on stock then you might have a case.
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I've been using the tiamat for now and it seems more stable on wifi, funny though, the wifi seemed bad on the default miui kernel. I also moved my router to a higher place on a shevel with nothing steel or bad around it. Oh and don't worry my local sprint store in Los angeles is a big time Hispanic corporate... they replace devices for any complaining here to avoid issues with the people lol! I got to love it.
Edit: you are leet according to your post count ahaha.

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CaliBoyPhillip said:
I've tried about many ROM's such as miui, CM7, decks, etc.... I've had no luck, the wifi is just so horrible in many places where in a sense ROM I'd have perfect wifi or good, compared to poor wifi disconnecting after a while.
Thanks for reading Anyone have a solution?
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i used to have a problem like this, click in the link in my sig and go to the Q&A section in it and follow the steps on how to fix the wifi issue. if you have any questions or anything feel free to post it in that thread. hope i helped ^_^

[Q] No 3g after installing an AOKP/CM9 theme

I was checking out some of the themes that i had downloaded to see which one i liked the most and after a few installs i noticed that my phone was no longer getting 3g/hspa+ ? I had done nothing except install and reboot like instructed in the discription. I was installing them via "Themes" settings. Im currently on AOKP build 39 with the latest nightly from Franco (R191), I have never seen this before which is why i thought id post this thread. I have tried the following and got no fix:
tried *#*#4636#*#* and selected radio band/automatic but got nothing.
tried a refresh on the APN and got nothing
tried Mobile networks/Network operators/both "Select Automatically" and choosing T-mobile and no 3g still =(. Im stuck on EDGE:2
The radio that i have been on for a while now is xxkk6 which has worked pretty good for me coming from Phoenix,AZ
Dont know what else to do, someone help please

Why make two threads for the same problem?
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Before creating a "theme broke 3g" thread. Did you happen to call your carrier and see if there has been an outage reported in your area? Have you tried to reflash rom, gapps and kernel and does the problem persist?
good day.

theking_13 said:
Why make two threads for the same problem?
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It was not done intentionally
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I'm having the same problem. Was working fine on HSPA last night and woke up to Edge only all day. It's not a network outage and it's not my account as my SIM works on HSPA on my backup HTC Amaze. I was recently on CM9 Nightly 6/20 but I'll try going back to the stock rom and see what that does.
Edit: Tried reverting to complete stock everything and I'm still stuck on Edge only. I'll try a friend's SIM out and make sure it's not my account/IMEI issue, otherwise something has to be wrong with the phone, but I don't know what

chopper the dog said:
Before creating a "theme broke 3g" thread. Did you happen to call your carrier and see if there has been an outage reported in your area? Have you tried to reflash rom, gapps and kernel and does the problem persist?
good day.
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There is no outage in my area because everyone that i know has T-mobile and there phone works fine. Re flash rom, gapps, kernel and problem still remains

Either me bringing it back to stock/oem lock then unlock or my phone fixed itself. At first when i was done bringing it back to stock, it was still saying i was on edge, then after about an hour when i tried to root my phone i noticed that 3g/h back up. I still dont know what exactly the root cause but whatever its fixed

[Q] AOSP Known Issues?

I'm just trying to keep these straight, since I've seen bits and pieces of various problems on the various dev threads. Would someone be so kind as to check my logic here? Thanks in advance!
Problem: Can't get a GPS lock after flashing any AOSP-based 4.3 rom
Solution: Flash back to stock (RUU?), open up Maps or otherwise get a good GPS lock, flash back to your rom of choice
Burning Question: Why does this happen and why does stock flashing work?
(Idiot Newbie Question: RUU is basically a stock image? I need an encrypted version? Do I need to worry about breaking my rumrunner s-off/root?)
Problem: When on a phone call, and the other party hangs up, you get "call lost" instead of the standard graceful disconnect.
Solution: Isn't one yet. Gotta wait for a fix to be made.
Problem: Signal strength meter shows impossibly low values, despite data, voice, LTE all working as expected.
Solution: No idea. Of the 3 roms I've tried, (CM10, Liquid, Carbon), all do this. Minor problem, but anyways.
Problem: Purplish tint on the camera in dark scenes.
Solution: Phone's defective, send it in. / Or: Wait for a software patch.
Which is it?

@Karunamon
Problem 1. Not really figured out yet. All you need to do is flash any Sense rom.
Problem 2. Is fixed! For a couple of days now for any ROM built after 11th of this month.
Problem 3. I get the same dBm on Sense and AOSP. Sure a lot of other people do also. But people panic when looking at the network bars.
Problem 4. I get no purple/pink tint when on Sense but after flashing AOSP I get the purple/pink tint on my FFC. So I would wait til 4.3.

Is the issue with AOSP roms killing the radios on certain phones fixed as of the 11th?

adrenalinemotion said:
Is the issue with AOSP roms killing the radios on certain phones fixed as of the 11th?
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That isn't AOSP fault. Something was happening after the s-off procedures that people need to do a factory reset from HBOOT before flashing anything to reset their radio
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Flyhalf205 said:
That isn't AOSP fault. Something was happening after the s-off procedures that people need to do a factory reset from HBOOT before flashing anything to reset their radio
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I s-off'd, unlocked my bootloader and rooted with no issues. I was stock rooted and everything functioned. As soon as I flashed an AOSP rom, the radio broke. I had data, but no voice. (You posted in a thread I started and helped me fix my radio)
I'm not trying to argue or anything, just trying to understand.
Are you saying that I should now be able to flash an AOSP rom and have no radio issues now since I reflashed the stock recovery to fix the radio, then flashed back to TWRP?

adrenalinemotion said:
I s-off'd, unlocked my bootloader and rooted with no issues. I was stock rooted and everything functioned. As soon as I flashed an AOSP rom, the radio broke. I had data, but no voice. (You posted in a thread I started and helped me fix my radio)
I'm not trying to argue or anything, just trying to understand.
Are you saying that I should now be able to flash an AOSP rom and have no radio issues now since I reflashed the stock recovery to fix the radio, then flashed back to TWRP?
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I really think you can go back to an AOSP rom. I have no problems and tons of other people with no problems. I noticed that the guys who s-off with sonic didn't have these issues. That is just why I think it is something with the whole current s-off process.
But if you do decide to give AOSP another try. I would flash when you have about a hour of free time with a computer just to make sure it doesn't crap out again.

Does one need to have the stock recovery to reset from Hboot?
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Flyhalf205 said:
@Karunamon
Problem 1. Not really figured out yet. All you need to do is flash any Sense rom.
Problem 2. Is fixed! For a couple of days now for any ROM built after 11th of this month.
Problem 3. I get the same dBm on Sense and AOSP. Sure a lot of other people do also. But people panic when looking at the network bars.
Problem 4. I get no purple/pink tint when on Sense but after flashing AOSP I get the purple/pink tint on my FFC. So I would wait til 4.3.
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Excellent, seems I just need to dig up a sense rom and then reflash something new and i'll be good on 1 and 2.
Any idea what could be causing 3, though? For comparison, when I was on stock, the meter was completely full for LTE in my home. Now, it's one bar. Coverage is still good though and data still works at breakneck speeds, so I don't think it's an actual signal issue.

Karunamon said:
Excellent, seems I just need to dig up a sense rom and then reflash something new and i'll be good on 1 and 2.
Any idea what could be causing 3, though? For comparison, when I was on stock, the meter was completely full for LTE in my home. Now, it's one bar. Coverage is still good though and data still works at breakneck speeds, so I don't think it's an actual signal issue.
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check DBM isntead of looking at your bars to see if you even have an issue.

The signal issue sounds the same as AOSP on the Rezound. The signal strength would be same, but the signal icon would be different. Basically, HTC has set the icons to show more than AOSP.
I didn't factory reset after using rumrunner and the only thing I have noticed was I would not connect to 4g as much or as fast as before. It seems to be getting better though. I am running bonestock.
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Like it was explained to me the bars are kinda like the idiot lights on a cars dash. They really don't do much. Aosp shows your true signal and sense and so on shows a false truth just so people doesn't complain about poor signal. As long as my data works I don't care if I have zero bars.
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Are there any bluetooth issue's ?

nujackk said:
Are there any bluetooth issue's ?
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No issues using a Bluetooth headset here.
Can't say anything about Bluetooth audio streaming, haven't tried that yet.

sawedust said:
No issues using a Bluetooth headset here.
Can't say anything about Bluetooth audio streaming, haven't tried that yet.
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IR work yet?

exzacklyright said:
IR work yet?
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IR is working on VanirAOSP.
I'm using Smart IR Remote to control my devices; great interface and works well with the majority of the stuff that I have.
Not sure what the progress is re: IR with the other AOSP ROMs.

With smart ir remote it should work on any Rom.
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sawedust said:
No issues using a Bluetooth headset here.
Can't say anything about Bluetooth audio streaming, haven't tried that yet.
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The streaming is my main concern, Use is inmy truck and main reason I will try to keep my unlimited data FOREVER

adrenalinemotion said:
I s-off'd, unlocked my bootloader and rooted with no issues. I was stock rooted and everything functioned. As soon as I flashed an AOSP rom, the radio broke. I had data, but no voice. (You posted in a thread I started and helped me fix my radio)
I'm not trying to argue or anything, just trying to understand.
Are you saying that I should now be able to flash an AOSP rom and have no radio issues now since I reflashed the stock recovery to fix the radio, then flashed back to TWRP?
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Did this happen using twrp or cwm? Some folks are thinking its cwm causing this.
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Flyhalf205 said:
I really think you can go back to an AOSP rom. I have no problems and tons of other people with no problems. I noticed that the guys who s-off with sonic didn't have these issues. That is just why I think it is something with the whole current s-off process.
But if you do decide to give AOSP another try. I would flash when you have about a hour of free time with a computer just to make sure it doesn't crap out again.
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This happened to people who hardware s-off'd and flashed the gpe rom too. Don't think it has anything to do with it.
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Why does every KK rom have data issues?

I've tried Liquidsmooth, CM Remix, Omni, and now Carbon. Every KK rom shows me the orange no data connection icon. Airplane mode toggle and wifi toggle doesn't work. Reboots only work sometimes. And that's not really a solution, rebooting my phone every 5 minutes. Why is this happening?

I only home that you switched all these ROMs with clean installs. Did you?

Of course

yea same here got a gnex on eBay having trouble getting it going ..looks like I'm going to an old ROM that my other gnex runs and at least has data connection
4.2.2. lol....
what baseband are people using for KK on gnex Verizon ?
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rsswga said:
yea same here got a gnex on eBay having trouble getting it going ..looks like I'm going to an old ROM that my other gnex runs and at least has data connection
4.2.2. lol....
what baseband are people using for KK on gnex Verizon ?
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yeah.. maybe your baseband version (radio.img) didnt suited you.
maybe broken driver ~ reflash kernel with wifi driver works for me. ( changing rom didnt change anything to radio/driver setting)

My old 4.2.2 JBSourcery gets signal just fine. And for some reason Omni gets better than the others but still cuts out.

Explodee said:
My old 4.2.2 JBSourcery gets signal just fine. And for some reason Omni gets better than the others but still cuts out.
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your baseband??
sometimes when u using adblocker apps or network tweaks/mod its can easily mess your network setup. just double check if any.

Flashing roms doesnt change radios right?

the only way I can get data is if I put it right beside my network extender.
I've tried all the radios.. did I get a dud..?
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Explodee said:
Flashing roms doesnt change radios right?
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nope
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Explodee said:
Flashing roms doesnt change radios right?
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rom can affects data coverage from the Rils files (in libs). usually continuously using 4.3 rils right now cause google doesn't update for gnex. gnex roms still on progress in this. CM & slim update the coverage issues so far. dont know wt others. sorry if im wrong..
http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/news/431-weekly-3-2

Explodee said:
I've tried Liquidsmooth, CM Remix, Omni, and now Carbon. Every KK rom shows me the orange no data connection icon. Airplane mode toggle and wifi toggle doesn't work. Reboots only work sometimes. And that's not really a solution, rebooting my phone every 5 minutes. Why is this happening?
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I dont know what carrier you are on but when I was using my Verizon Galaxy Nexus, every ROM I flashed usually had no data on first boot. I got in the habit of rebooting the phone before I even went through the setup and after that, data had no issues. It was a known thing. Toggling airplane mode and 3g/LTE was also known to cause issues at one point. So if you clean flash, boot up and let it sit for a few seconds before going through the google setup. If data doesnt automatically connect, reboot right away. It should connect fine after that.

Yeah I'm on Verizon now. Hopefully making the switch to T-mo in about a month. The problem is not that data doesn't connect at all, the problem is that it will drop out and never come back. I live in Boston and in the subway I will lose the signal underground and it will never come back. Also my office is right in the main downtown area and I barely get a 3G signal no matter what. I know my signal strength isn't part of this problem. It's the data connection somehow becoming disconnected and staying idle that is stopping me from staying on KK.

Explodee said:
Yeah I'm on Verizon now. Hopefully making the switch to T-mo in about a month. The problem is not that data doesn't connect at all, the problem is that it will drop out and never come back. I live in Boston and in the subway I will lose the signal underground and it will never come back. Also my office is right in the main downtown area and I barely get a 3G signal no matter what. I know my signal strength isn't part of this problem. It's the data connection somehow becoming disconnected and staying idle that is stopping me from staying on KK.
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Since you're on Verizon check shiny Rom. The guys there have done a lot of tweaking to improve data.
The reason data is problematic is partially since the gnex is no longer supported and the toro variant has had no officially android release since 4.2.2 and the ril and telephony stack have changed how they work with cdma in both 4.3 and 4.4. I believe the toro uses a bit of an older radio. Is this a problem when you disable 4g as well?
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I've gotta say that Shiny ROM is just about flawless. I've never had issues getting or keeping a data connection when there's signal. I'm using the FK01/FK02 radios from 4.2.2 and the 4.2 bootloader.
I'll give my little testimony here: a basic stock rom will get you farther than a fully-featured one. I've heard the expression "mo' features, mo' bugs" and that seems to fit quite well. I'm not aware of any features in any rom that you can't get from one xposed module or another, so that's what I've been doing. I'd say give it a try and see if your data issues are resolved for good.

Shiny has always worked fine for me. I run latest everything.. bootloader, radio. CM I think worked fine for me but was ugly. Paranoid Android seems to have some connectivity issues.. I wish someone could solve this data issues. Maybe it is time to leave my nexus behind Just been waiting for another verizon nexus
Explodee said:
I've tried Liquidsmooth, CM Remix, Omni, and now Carbon. Every KK rom shows me the orange no data connection icon. Airplane mode toggle and wifi toggle doesn't work. Reboots only work sometimes. And that's not really a solution, rebooting my phone every 5 minutes. Why is this happening?
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I've got about 7 different Nandroids and have been switching between them to test. CM Remix which I believe is based on Slim seems to be working OK. I tried Slim this morning but still got a lot of data cut-outs

Explodee said:
I've got about 7 different Nandroids and have been switching between them to test. CM Remix which I believe is bases in Slim seems to be working OK. I tried Slim this morning but still got a lot of data cut-outs
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wow.. lot of roms tested. that pretty brilliant idea for solving this. just use the best. data networks really different for each country.
* i found out a different in apn setting wt different rom. slim rom only captured 4g by my local provider (APN). when im tried asob its give choice in Apn setting ( 3g /4g). my country not fully h+ at several area. so changing to 3g got better network (better low than nothing)

memaro_maro said:
wow.. lot of roms tested. that pretty brilliant idea for solving this. just use the best. data networks really different for each country.
* i found out a different in apn setting wt different rom. slim rom only captured 4g by my local provider (APN). when im tried asob its give choice in Apn setting ( 3g /4g). my country not fully h+ at several area. so changing to 3g got better network (better low than nothing)
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I don't think that applies to CDMA

Data Issue in Custom ROMs

Hi all,
I tried almost all pie and 10 ROMs for 5Z and they all work great.
However, in all my flashing endeavors, I had data issues in some ROMs; like the data won't work at all, even after setting up the correct APN (RIL works perfectly fine).
Interestingly this bug (don't know what to call it) is random, if i flash the same ROM again and if I am lucky the data works just fine; it's a total hit and miss and it is just plain annoying. Although, there is absolutely no data problem on stock (any vendor) but this happens if I try and flash any ROM.
Any advise? what can i do to sort this out?

I had similar problem, but the problem was Roaming. Out of the country i was not able to use 3G/4G. I tried all customs roms, but it was still the same issue. So i went back to stock and it works without any problems.

Same here. All roms worked pretty well (e.gL ineage, Havoc) except for Android Auto and roaming. Data worked, except when roaming. Was never able to get a connection. Back to stock all worked. Could not find a solution.

garrincha77 said:
I had similar problem, but the problem was Roaming. Out of the country i was not able to use 3G/4G. I tried all customs roms, but it was still the same issue. So i went back to stock and it works without any problems.
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nlsjng said:
Same here. All roms worked pretty well (e.gL ineage, Havoc) except for Android Auto and roaming. Data worked, except when roaming. Was never able to get a connection. Back to stock all worked. Could not find a solution.
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Precisely the problem.
Is there anyway you got it to work or figured out to make it work?
I honestly hate the stock ROM and would love to use an Android 10 ROM.

Xadus said:
Precisely the problem.
Is there anyway you got it to work or figured out to make it work?
I honestly hate the stock ROM and would love to use an Android 10 ROM.
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Try UL-Z01R-WW-100.04.44.67-user.zip, I am using it as a daily driver now, work pretty well. No real issues found....
Battery slightly worse compared to .88
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/10/22/b...t-for-open-beta-testers-download-link-inside/