[Q] Is the Display and Touchpanel glued together?? - Fairphone

FP said thei will not glue this 2 parts together so it is easier and cheaper to repair, but now on their Shop they write:
If the glass breaks, the touchpanel will still work in most cases; however, when we ship the display assembly, these two parts are glued together. This is not ideal, so we're looking into it for next generation devices.
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is this just an Typing error or did FP tell us once more not the truth?

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HTC One V Screen replacement

I had broken my One V's Display Glass screen a month ago, the HTC authorized service center informed that the LCD as well as the display glass screen has to be replaced even though just the screen is damaged, the LCD is fine. They said that the replacement part comes bundled with LCD and the glass screen. The cost of replacement will come to Rs.5000 (~100$)
I searched ebay and found replacement glass screens available for as low as 20$.
Should I buy the replacement screen available on ebay? I have no experience in cell phone repairs and this will be risky.
sparxone said:
I had broken my One V's Display Glass screen a month ago, the HTC authorized service center informed that the LCD as well as the display glass screen has to be replaced even though just the screen is damaged, the LCD is fine. They said that the replacement part comes bundled with LCD and the glass screen. The cost of replacement will come to Rs.5000 (~100$)
I searched ebay and found replacement glass screens available for as low as 20$.
Should I buy the replacement screen available on ebay? I have no experience in cell phone repairs and this will be risky.
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IF you have no experience i suggest you go to the service centre as you COULD damage your phone further more...
Isn't the One V's LCD fused to the glass and inseparable? Those Ebay sellers are probably misleading you.
If you want to try anyway, you should have a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w96ldQq5Q2k to see what's involved.
This is what I had read... "It’s also laminated to the glass front, making for superb viewing angles" from the Verge review (http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/18/2950522/htc-one-v-review#section_4)
sparxone said:
I had broken my One V's Display Glass screen a month ago, the HTC authorized service center informed that the LCD as well as the display glass screen has to be replaced even though just the screen is damaged, the LCD is fine. They said that the replacement part comes bundled with LCD and the glass screen. The cost of replacement will come to Rs.5000 (~100$)
I searched ebay and found replacement glass screens available for as low as 20$.
Should I buy the replacement screen available on ebay? I have no experience in cell phone repairs and this will be risky.
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I have replaced countless touch screens in my life, but even I won't really think about the V because of the unibody housing. Even with proper instructions and good quality tools and materials (silica glue, alcohol for cleaning and so on...) it will be hell of a job. I personaly don't think that $100 is a high price for OEM parts replaced by the authorised service.
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klosik said:
Isn't the One V's LCD fused to the glass and inseparable? Those Ebay sellers are probably misleading you.
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they are not fused together, just glued with special silica glue and tempered. It is replaceable, but it is hard enough for a pro.
If you want to maintain the good quality of the display, you will need to clean troughoutly the LCD with absolute alcohol, or any spec. cleaning liquid in a "cleen room" for not to contaminate it after cleaning, then glue them together with proper silica glue evenly troughout the whole contour of the screen. It is hard work and damn expensive, thus oem will replace the whole screen-touch screen parts.
Thanks for the opinions. I will go with replacement from service center.
Same here!
Hey. I dropped my One V from the bed today morning! :crying: It got a huge crack on the top left!
The crack is not on "the screen" but it still looks pretty awful :-( I have attached the pics. See the last pic for the crack.
What should i do? Please suggest cost-effective methods. Any help is appreciated.
mandarmahajan1996 said:
Hey. I dropped my One V from the bed today morning! :crying: It got a huge crack on the top left!
The crack is not on "the screen" but it still looks pretty awful :-( I have attached the pics. See the last pic for the crack.
What should i do? Please suggest cost-effective methods. Any help is appreciated.
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if the touch and everything else still works...then live with it...or you can pay to have it repaired by HTC
I thought one V had Corning gorilla glass.
It's not supposed to break that easily wtf?
You can smash a diamond with a hammer. Like Gorilla glass, it is very hard and almost impossible to scratch, but can be easily shattered by sufficient impact shock.
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I have broken my touch screen,and buy a new touch screen by TAOBAO.COM(Like ebay).And I have to face the problem:how to replace it....
My touch screen is seriously damaged,and should I do it by myself?
My idea is break the touch screen carefully to avoid damage the LCD screen,does it possible?
My first phone is touch diamond and have the same problem....Then I damaged the touch screen and the lcd screen both....I do not want it happened again...
Anyone can give my some advice?
It is too expensive for me to replace it by service centre....And some pros says that will takes $30 to help me.....
Thx
Has anyone had success(or failure) with this yet?
Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w96ldQq5Q2k
If you know what is going on, than try. If not then no. A pro is needed, if you want good product at the and.
just a heads up guys, a CDMA Screen will NOT work on the GSM phone
No gorilla glass for OneV
tranceph0rmer said:
I thought one V had Corning gorilla glass.
It's not supposed to break that easily wtf?
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One V does not come with Corning gorilla glass.. This was discussed even in some other threads. Even if it have, gorilla glass will only be scratch-resistant and not break-resistant.
I'm getting mine fixed tomorrow as ive cracked the screen also.
The shop thats fixing it confirmed the lcd is bundled with the glass.
It's costing me £50 for the screen and £20 to fit it.
these screens seem very easy to break as my wife has cracked hers now also so I suppose the golden rule is be extra careful with these phones.
I had a wildfire a wildfire s and a desire and never cracked one of them and i'd dropped them all a lot harder than my hov ( which only fell 2ft ). I conclude its down to the raised effect of the glass.
this is because HOV doesn't come with gorilla glass
YouTube maybe???
this post had no solutions so I just opened YOUTUBE and searched for it
complete screen with digitizer replacement video tutorial
here is a link ))) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ePC3FbegM (Russian Language)
if you don´t understand, just look at the video it's not that important to hear what they are saying. If you want, turn on captions ))
and this one is pretty detailed too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxu4wh5jgMk (German language)
and I continued to search and found another videos ))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499K4_-xq98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPasbSobzwA
ENJOY!!!!
Feel free click thanks button XD
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
I have replaced countless touch screens in my life, but even I won't really think about the V because of the unibody housing. Even with proper instructions and good quality tools and materials (silica glue, alcohol for cleaning and so on...) it will be hell of a job. I personaly don't think that $100 is a high price for OEM parts replaced by the authorised service.
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They are not fused together, just glued with special silica glue and tempered. It is replaceable, but it is hard enough for a pro.
If you want to maintain the good quality of the display, you will need to clean troughoutly the LCD with absolute alcohol, or any spec. cleaning liquid in a "cleen room" for not to contaminate it after cleaning, then glue them together with proper silica glue evenly troughout the whole contour of the screen. It is hard work and damn expensive, thus oem will replace the whole screen-touch screen parts.
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There is a video on YouTube decomposing and reuniting the whole machine and we were said it is hard to nicely reunite the machine.
I have thus a request, are there chemical solutions melting silica glues with no damages to the whole machine?
adal5586 said:
There is a video on YouTube decomposing and reuniting the whole machine and we were said it is hard to nicely reunite the machine.
I have thus a request, are there chemical solutions melting silica glues with no damages to the whole machine?
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Apparently no, or none that can be brought off from a shelf. Cured silica based optical glue can only be dissolved with highly toxic and flammable solutions only. You can altough soften them with denaturetad alcohol or xylene, but there is a high chance you damage the display panel itself with them. Altoug I am talking about the dismantling of the touch panel and the display panel here.
The machine and the display unit (the two of them together) is just glued with standard heat activated glue, it can be softened with denaturated alcohol (which does not harms the other parts) or heat, and the the unit can be brought of from the phone (with phisical force of course). You can glue it together again with standard double sided glue tapes (2 or 1mm width) you can ebay them for. I haven't dismantled One V as of now, but I had a Desire X wich also had a unibody aluminium housing and a unified display panel, but there the whole unit was damaged, so damaging them wasn't a problem when dismantling it, and a prebuild unit was the replacement.

HTC One X fell...

I need an advice, my phone just fell out of my palm and it's screen is completely shattered. The touch screen is fully functional but the screen shows orange-ish dots. Is the the LCD or the broken glass just presses it?
Screen repair here costs ~500 bucks, which I ofcourse refuse to pay.
TL;DR:
What should I order to fix it myself , and is it worth it?
(LCD + touch screen? )
Also, if I order the OEM one.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-OE...872?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1ae6a558
will it be the original LCD2 the HOX has?
Arcaneex said:
I need an advice, my phone just fell out of my palm and it's screen is completely shattered. The touch screen is fully functional but the screen shows orange-ish dots. Is the the LCD or the broken glass just presses it?
Screen repair here costs ~500 bucks, which I ofcourse refuse to pay.
TL;DR:
What should I order to fix it myself , and is it worth it?
(LCD + touch screen? )
Also, if I order the OEM one.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-OE...872?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1ae6a558
will it be the original LCD2 the HOX has?
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· 110% Brand New (In the ebay advert)! THAT MADE ME CHUCKLE !!
I would ask the ebayer, not us about the LCD2 screen
And if I was you, I wouldn't even bother going anywhere near repairing it yourself, unless you have experience. They are so complex its unreal.
Good luck !
Another question, when my iPod touch cracked I tried to replace the glass... it didn't turn out well. I only ordered the digitizer , at the end it was attached to the LCD.
Anyone knows if it's the same with the HOX? Really can't afford a 500$ repair now.
Arcaneex said:
Another question, when my iPod touch cracked I tried to replace the glass... it didn't turn out well. I only ordered the digitizer , at the end it was attached to the LCD.
Anyone knows if it's the same with the HOX? Really can't afford a 500$ repair now.
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yeah they are attached normally, hox, the glass is attached to the screen.
my dhd when smashed, was declared beyond economical repair.
its only really if the screen isn't smashed too badly that you might be able to warm it up enough to loosen the glue, but you'll probably damage the lcd itself in the process. and then you'll probably bugger up re attaching the new glass. even htc buggered it up with the yellow spots etc on lots of the early models
you're better off getting the whole screen with glass. it will be fiddly, but there are a few teardown guides for hox, and if you research this enough, and make sure you have the right tools for the job, it should be fine.
if i was in your situation, i would try it .. but i would make a million % sure that the screen i was buying was a genuine screen.
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hi
watch this before you get anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceHw6mezG60
here is some other vids but i think the first video is the best.
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...3220.1j9j3j2j1.16.0...0.0...1ac.1.t3dQZm-DB14
good luck m8

[SOLVED] How to know if I must replace Digitalizer, LCD or Both?

Hey I was wondering how could I know if I need to replace the digitilizer, the LCD or both? The touch screen seems to be working (it responds as usual) the issue is that the glass is broken. The thing is that the difference is price is quite big between digitilizer and both.
Thanks!
They're fused together and almost impossible to separate without causing damage. You'll have to replace the whole LCD/digitizer assembly
If you manage to separate them (i don't recommend) then you can get the cheap digitizer. You will need a hair dryer to melt the glue between them.
I didn't try this or will try it but this method is very popular for iphones.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
I've spent 6 months trying to get a proper One X screen (complete unit, LCD+Digitizer). Not one of the 7-8 screens I have tried has had the digitizer fully bonded to the LCD. Many of the replacements had defective LCDs too (contrast issues, bad backlights etc).
When I got my One X back in April (had it for a whole week before a drop from pocket height smashed the screen!), I recall that there was no gap at all between the LCD and digitizer, across the whole screen area - they were bonded completely - something proven beyond doubt when a repair company had a go at getting the broken digitizer off the LCD underneath.
Every replacement screen I have tried has had a distinct gap - the LCD and digitizer are bonded but ONLY along the edges, not across the screen surfaces. I cannot see a way they could be bonded across the entire surface either, as the gap seems to be there because the digitizer unit holds the gorilla glass approximately 1mm above the LCD surface. Even if you could bond them, it wouldn't go right to the edges.
So now I have a flawless LCD, but an air gap. Pressing on the screen (eg, when checking for the Wi-Fi hardware issue), results in a sort of "reverse bubble" - a dark area where the two surfaces come into contact. That dark area is actually how the entire screen should look, and the air gap makes the display poor in direct sunlight.
Now I could put up with it, but the Ballistic case I have (to prevent more shattered screens) forces the digitizer into contact with the LCD in the middle of the screen which looks rubbish.
Does anyone know of a source of replacement screens that aren't the crappy sort I've been getting? Or am I wrong about the air gap? I'm convinced the ones on ebay are ALL these shoddy hand-made efforts with air gaps.
In case anyone wondered - I did ask HTC about a repair, but as you may know, they wanted a ransom fee if I didn't like their quote after posting my phone to them. O2 gave a free quote, but wanted £300! Their repair centre refused to just replace the screen, and insisted on replacing the perfectly functioning mainboard too.
£300 ? thats more than the phone's price, it shouldn't cost more than £100 if they wanted to rip you
Vcek said:
£300 ? thats more than the phone's price, it shouldn't cost more than £100 if they wanted to rip you
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No it's not - the phone is £380 on Amazon right now (it was £400+ but the One X+ release has devalued it more quickly).
If you'd like to provide a link to somewhere offering a complete new screen for £100 or less, I would be interested. Most companies in the UK are offering replacement screens for £150 or so, fitted.
Thank you all, today I went to a local store and they changed both LCD and Digitilizer for $120 (Dollars), they kept my LCD (which was working). I think it went way cheaper than expected
Ebay item number: 320929331645
101% original screen combo + surrounding rim. Bought from there myself and I can assure, that this item is genuine. Price is a bit steep, thou.
Sent from my HTC One X
tomas.trk said:
Ebay item number: 320929331645
101% original screen combo + surrounding rim. Bought from there myself and I can assure, that this item is genuine. Price is a bit steep, thou.
Sent from my HTC One X
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Thanks - I also just found that over in the other thread in the General section. Finally I might have my One X back!

Dropped-> Cracked Screen-> No response to touch

I am presuming I'm hosed, and replacing the glass will not get me going, given that not only is the screen cracked, but no response to touch.
Is that the case?
ewingr said:
I am presuming I'm hosed, and replacing the glass will not get me going, given that not only is the screen cracked, but no response to touch.
Is that the case?
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The glass covering the LCD is the digitizer. If it doesn't respond to touch, the digitizer or the internal digitizer connection to the mobo could be damaged.
Can you see any images? If not, you would need to replace the LCD as well.
Replacing the LCD and digitzer is not guaranteed to get the phone going because there could be internal damage.
ewingr said:
I am presuming I'm hosed, and replacing the glass will not get me going, given that not only is the screen cracked, but no response to touch.
Is that the case?
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The display unit has three layers bonded together. The LCD, a digitizer and the exterior glass. If you can see a normal picture, but there is no response to touch it sounds like your digitizer is broken as well as the exterior glass. just replacing the exterior glass will not fix the touch problem. You're probably looking at about $100 in labour either way, plus parts. The glass is cheap, $5 or $10 on Ebay or Amazon. But the digitizer is another $50 - $150, so it may be cost prohibitive to repair your phone unless you are doing the repair yourself.
If you are really lucky, it could just be a loose connection, but I'll bet that your digitizer needs to be replaced. Another possible option worth exploring is to phone Samsung and ask if they have a flat rate for out of warranty repairs. They do in some areas and that may turn out to be your best option. If you end up doing that, note that you'll actually get a replacement i.e. refurbished phone, not your original phone returned to you after being repaired.
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Thanks. I suspect you are right. I'm going to go the insurance route then.

[Q] Regarding screen + digitizer replacement

I've just dropped my phone, cracking the glass. The phone works and unlocks, but I can't unlock the phone with my fingers, only with the pen (for example, I've been able to connect it via AirDroid just by getting lucky with where I'm pressing with the pen, and using voice commands).
My question is, to replace the whole screen, do you need to do any of that heatgun madness? The replacement screen I'd be buying from Amazon or elsewhere has the glass already attached. So I'd imagine it's just some prying and a bunch of screws, but no glue, yes?
It will depend on what you are replacing. You said that your glass was cracked. If you are replacing just the glass/digitizer ($20) it will require a heat gun. If you are replacing the whole display assembly ($200+) you will not.
Front Glass Replacment
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502378
Display Assembly Replacment
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+II+Display+Assembly+Replacement/16453#s51149
Awesome, exactly what I was looking for. Thank you d3cypher!

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