This may be a stupid question, but can someone tell me what's the difference between R800i, R800a and R800x?
Geeve said:
This may be a stupid question, but can someone tell me what's the difference between R800i, R800a and R800x?
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R800x is the CDMA Verizon Wireless USA variant, and is currently unrootable, but runs stock vanilla Android.
R800i is the original GSM variant sold over in Europe and the UK.
I'm not entirely sure about the R800a, my brain is giving me conflicting stories about Taiwan/Singapore, and Canada Rogers versions.... I could be ENTIRELY wrong on that though.
One is for verizon, one is for some other US network and the R800I is for the rest of the world i think
Models so far?;
r800i (uk, europe, australia, new zealand, asia?)
r800a (canada rogers, mexico + also asia?)
r800at (usa at&t)
r800x (usa verizon)
Z1i (china?)
They all have the same specs internal memory, processor e.t.c
In Mexico we get r800a too. With all the sony experience.
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
Geeve said:
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
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Both. In the case of U.S.A you guys get R800x for Verizon and R800at for At&T
Geeve said:
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
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I would say model depends on providers since anyone using gsm is likely to get the R800i or R800a anyone using cdma is gonna get the R800x or R800at.
The only difference in GSM and CDMA is gsm phones have a simcard, CDMA phones dont have simcards your account information is programmed onto your phone. Dunno if the CDMA xperia plays have R-UIM cards though? CDMA is supposed have have faster data transfer speeds (internet) up to 700kbps (EVDO). Gsm is roughly 400+kbps (HSDPA)
Gsm is world wide and CDMA is mainly usa and some parts of asia
I thought there was a dev model as well whats that one called?
Saw someone talking about it somewhere
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
The only difference between the R800a and R800i is the HSDPA radio frequency set. You can buy both in Australia as both frequency sets are in use by various carriers.
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Firmware images are compatible between R800i and R800a.
Both are incompatible with R800x as far as I know.
I don't know about the R800at.
Mozza2k11 said:
I would say model depends on providers since anyone using gsm is likely to get the R800i or R800a anyone using cdma is gonna get the R800x or R800at.
The only difference in GSM and CDMA is gsm phones have a simcard, CDMA phones dont have simcards your account information is programmed onto your phone. Dunno if the CDMA xperia plays have R-UIM cards though? CDMA is supposed have have faster data transfer speeds (internet) up to 700kbps (EVDO). Gsm is roughly 400+kbps (HSDPA)
Gsm is world wide and CDMA is mainly usa and some parts of asia
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R800at isn't CDMA (its another GSM Variant). Interestingly, although it seems to do nothing and has a plastic bit inserted in the way, the CDMA (R800x) version does have a sim-card slot, and if you go into some of the diag screens, you can turn on GSM... I haven't tried getting a prepaid sim to see if it works though. So the R800x might just have both if we are lucky, however I doubt its fully enabled in the kernel level.
R800i is also Oceania ( AUS/NZ )
ryocoon said:
R800at isn't CDMA (its another GSM Variant). Interestingly, although it seems to do nothing and has a plastic bit inserted in the way, the CDMA (R800x) version does have a sim-card slot, and if you go into some of the diag screens, you can turn on GSM... I haven't tried getting a prepaid sim to see if it works though. So the R800x might just have both if we are lucky, however I doubt its fully enabled in the kernel level.
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Thanks for the info. I was sure R800i & R800a are GSM and i knew R800x was CDMA wasnt sure about r800at so i just presumed it was CDMA as well
I cannot remember the post but i think someone has tried a sim card in the r800x and said that it has been fully disabled.
I'm in Singapore, R800i's here as well - nice thing about buying a phone here, all are carrier unlocked / government considers it illegal [monopoly] for carriers to sign exclusive deals... although I might get caned for exporting them.
Same here. No companies should be allowed to lock phones to their networks.
However some companies have been cheeky and released different phones that don't support the other carriers cell tower transmission.
I can confirm the R800at is the AT&T version. It even has the AT&T boot animation and comes loaded with 2.3.3.
I got mine in the mail today off ebay. So far, I am really enjoying it. I get H+ as my connection icon, and which is different.
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correction, mate!!
Mozza2k11 said:
Models so far?;
r800i (uk, europe, australia, new zealand, asia?)
r800a (canada rogers, mexico + also asia?)
r800at (usa at&t)
r800x (usa verizon)
Z1i (china?)
They all have the same specs internal memory, processor e.t.c
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im aussie, and its the R800a thats sold here. its discontinued, and also telstra locked.
ryocoon said:
R800x is the CDMA Verizon Wireless USA variant, and is currently unrootable, but runs stock vanilla Android.
R800i is the original GSM variant sold over in Europe and the UK.
I'm not entirely sure about the R800a, my brain is giving me conflicting stories about Taiwan/Singapore, and Canada Rogers versions.... I could be ENTIRELY wrong on that though.
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You can root the Verizon model. If it is on anything higher than 2.3.3 you just have to flashtool back to 2.3.3 and then run super one click.
Posted over two months ago...
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Aussie_U8800 said:
im aussie, and its the R800a thats sold here. its discontinued, and also telstra locked.
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Im aussie too and the 800i is/was sold here for the optus/vodaphone network. You can use the 800i on telstra but you can only get 2g, no 3g goodness due to the frequencys used.
I saw alsaqr's ealier post that he unlocked japanese version of lt15i and dumped an lt15a rom into it and he made it work on AT&T's 3g network on April which lt15a hasn't been out yet at April.
Therefore i was wondering if i buy unlocked lt18i and do exactly what alsapr did, which dump an lt18a rom to unlocked lt18i device, will it's 3g work on AT&T?
I know there is lt15a is out but i want to get white version and would be nice to have little bit better version than original one since global version is out already.
or should i just buy an lt15a since there isn't too much difference other than 1.4Ghz processor and 2D&3D panorama camera function.
(and proceeder device is about $50 cheaper)
Can anyone help me out..?
Dumping an 'A' rom onto 'i' hardware wont help, mate. People with AT&T usually dump 'i' roms onto their 'A' hardware (that supports AT&T 850/1900 MHz UMTS) just to get faster updates and it doesn't change 3G bands (HW can't be altered by SW). So in a nutshell, hardware version is the only concern when you're worried about your carrier's 3G compatibility. You can flash any kind of rom ('a', 'i', 'custom') onto an 'A' hardware and I'm pretty sure it'll support ATT UMTS. I'm actually waiting for LT18A to come out as well
By the way, I already have an Arc (LT15A). I need another phone anyway, so I'll get an Arc S. But you should check the link
.xperiablog.net/2011/10/17/xperia-arc-s-review-benchmarks-galore/
it'll help you decide which one you need. electronicsshowplace.com is selling LT15A for an incredible $370 price.
.electronicsshowplace.com/advanced_search_result.php?osCsid=mnrhcu9o6bg7a7gm71e3ja0le2&search_in_description=1&keywords=xperia&pfrom=&pto=&categories_id=3710&x=0&y=0
Hope this helps.
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Beside the processor and camera features, I think there is another major upgrade on Arc S- HSPDA has been boosted to 14mbps (from Arc's 7 mbps). So an LT18A might get better data speed on ATT 3.5G network (they call it 4G though!) . I've an ATT xperia play 4G. Its data speed is a little faster than my LT15A. But if you are going to use wifi most of the times - don't even bother about this difference.
good staff
Yesterday I was updating my arc via wotan, and some people told me that the firmware works on the arc s arc normally.
I even upgraded to version ultyima and was normal.
but wondered if changes anything, if it can be harmful or not?
you wont access 3G.... the LT18a uses american 3g bands (850/1900) wether LT15 runs Euro 3g bands (900/2100)..
Let me know if you can get 3G after doing this.
I want to root my xperia ZL C6506 which has the latest firmware of 10.3.1.a.2.67 and I'm really confused I can find Doomlord easy root which shows how to do this with my firmware but I haven't done it because it shows kernel for C6503 not C6506. Can anyone tell me if this is a problem because I would hate to screw up my phone using wrong kernel? It is really confusing that xperia Z, and ZL have 3 different models. :silly:
jimmydee62 said:
I want to root my xperia ZL C6506 which has the latest firmware of 10.3.1.a.2.67 and I'm really confused I can find Doomlord easy root which shows how to do this with my firmware but I haven't done it because it shows kernel for C6503 not C6506. Can anyone tell me if this is a problem because I would hate to screw up my phone using wrong kernel? It is really confusing that xperia Z, and ZL have 3 different models. :silly:
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i've use it on my c6502 and it works, just like you said "it shows kernel for C6503 not C6506 or C6502"...
djangobinladen said:
i've use it on my c6502 and it works, just like you said "it shows kernel for C6503 not C6506 or C6502"...
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in between the 6506 and the 6503, would switching the firmwares around also change the lte frequencies to their respective models (assuming the lte modem is the same)? i really want a 6503 but the people selling them have jacked up the price due to limited availability. whereas the 6506 is much easier and cheaper to buy.
swooc said:
in between the 6506 and the 6503, would switching the firmwares around also change the lte frequencies to their respective models (assuming the lte modem is the same)? i really want a 6503 but the people selling them have jacked up the price due to limited availability. whereas the 6506 is much easier and cheaper to buy.
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well, in that case, you should ask SONY about it, but from my perspective, litteraly if you change (upgrade/downgrade) the firmware it will also change the baseband of the device, that's why you should alwalys flash the firmware based on your country not the firmware number.
I remember some guy in this forum said that when he flash the C6503 or the C6506 firmware to his C6502 device the LTE works, even though the C6502 doesn't have LTE integrated. Meaning, the C650X like the AMD TriCore Processor, it has a QuadCore with 1 Core disable.
^i'm sure a question like this is beyond sony's product support.
a user posted earlier in this forum that the lte chips between the 6503 and 6506 are different. which in that case, switching firmware around wouldn't open up new bands. but i figured someone here would have actually tried switching firmwares around and be able to confirm this for me.