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Hello there,
I am a Sony Xperia S user for 11 months now and so far I have been largely satisfied with my device. I have always run on the Stock ROM, I have not unlocked my bootloader yet and I do not intend to do so.
However, in the light of recent events I find myself thinking of a switch to another phone with better characteristics and more recent hardware. The best deal seems to be Sony Xperia T - newer chip, better support from Sony; perhaps it would receive further JB updates (4.2, 4.3) as well. Still, its recent price is just above 300 euros - unlocked and without contract - in my country. In comparison, I still have to pay about 200 euros for my Xperia S to the end of my 2-year lease contract with my local mobile service provider. That's why I am considering paying off the remaining sum of the lease in advance and then selling my Xperia S for about the same amount of money.
There are several reasons why I am considering such a switch. For one, Sony does not seem too eager to support Xperia S any longer. Yes, the 4.1.2 JB update is on the way but it has been for several months now. The numerous delays, and I am not too interested in the respective reasons, have finally put me off this otherwise pretty good all-rounder phone. Second, we have to take into account that the Snapdragon S3 chip is already heavily outdated and it would most likely not receive any further software development. When considering the alternatives, Xperia T seems to be the best one, because of its price, hardware and software. I am very fond of Sony's interface, indeed.
So I wonder what is your opinion on the matter? Is Xperia T worth it to replace my Xperia S for the next couple of years?
This thread could provide a general discussion of Xperia S's future, too.
I think its time to move on. Im never going back to Sony unless they improve. Im keeping my phone for few months more. I just bought my Sony phone and Im pretty disappointed. HTC and Samsung have better phones than Sony why settle for Xperia T or V, if you can have better.
My friend got Xperia T, and i don't like that phone.
Move on something newer, keep in mind (snapdragon 600) will receive every update before S4 and S4pro
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Agree with electrash anyways sony is getting poorer and poorer when it comes to system updates
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It is made very clear by the moderators that threads condemning Sony is not allowed. This thread is going to get locked soon. However, I noticed it is always those few monkeys tryin to be funny, not able to listen to simple English. Sony might not be good in updating Xperia S, but they didn't break any promises and my current ICS build is flawless.
Sony might not reach Samsung's level yet but it has suppressed HTC greatly already. Those who don't know, HTC abandons HTC Sensation, the phone with the exact same CPU as Xperia S.
So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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I own an Xperia U and it lags badly on ICS. They didnt abandon Xperia U. It is just not fit for JB. Anyways, Sony sales numbers have been steadily increasing YOY and already destroyed Motorola's and HTC's. Sony will continue to rise as 99% of customers dont give a damn about updates, fortunately.
Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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LOL. Please don't play with me. Xperia Go have the exact same specification as Xperia U. Xperia Go have a lower screen resolution resulting better performance. Then you will ask Xperia J. Sigh, kids these days.
Excuse me then I'm sorry Mr lee
And lol I was not coming to xperia j
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R: Finding myself on a crossroad - maybe it is time to move on
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
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When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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The big problem about ICS is its very laggy, drains alot of battery and not smooth.
cabi.costa said:
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
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Yep, the Galaxy S phones are always a viable alternative, but I am not a big fan of Samsung. Too much plastic, and the user interface is somewhat dull and boring. Yes, the horsepower behind the back panel is immense but I am not a power user, not really. In fact, it turns out that Sony are the brand with the highest number of upper-mid-level devices at the moment (Xperia S, T; SP and ZR upcoming; not to mention all the derivatives like SL, TX, Ion, V, Acro S, etc., etc.) and I am rather leaning towards buying one such device. I am not too interested in the current flagship devices (Xperia Z, HTC One, Galaxy S4) since cheaper phones provide similar daily performance for some 2/3 of the price. Snapdragon S4 is one really capable platform and its wide availability makes it accessible to anyone.
To sum up, I am rather looking for a phone with a good manufacturer's support and expected updates till Android version 4.3, at least. The 16GB non-expandable storage of Nexus 4 is a deal-breaker for me as well. Maybe I will wait another couple of months, until SP and ZR get released and their prices decline to their true market values.
And guys, please stay on topic here. We are discussing Xperia S and its alternatives here, not Sony's customer policy in general. I know, there are many of you who are angry at the Japanese, I am somewhat dissatisfied myself. Anyway, please stop the rant because I believe this is a sensible topic and I do not want to see this thread closed. Thanks!
edit: nvm
I had similar thoughts too, until i realized that the hardware in my Xperia S is just fine for my needs for now. What is it you want to do with a newer chipset? And on the software side, I have my hopes on that things will improve somewhat once/if Sony releases the new kernel-sources.
This question has been as so many times, only you can decide what is best for you.
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No regrets! I love it. Amazing screen, awesome camera, nice design, and tons of extras on the software end. I am definitely glad I went with the Xperia ZL!
The story is, I was torn between the HTC One and the Samsung S4. I could not decide. Then I happened to be on the Sony website because I had a $250 gift card for the sony online store. I happened to stumble across the Sony Xperia Z and ZL. I liked everything about it, and the more I thought about it I realized how much more unique it would be to own one. Everyone and their brother is running around with an HTC One and S4 right now. So I went for it. The phone was marked down from $759 to $569, I received 10% off for student discount, minus $250 from the gift card, and I got the sales rep to give me free next day shipping. So all said and done I only paid around $275.00, compared to $600 for an HTC One, and $700 for an S4.
(I was looking for an unlocked phone only so that I could utilize a pre-paid service that runs on AT&T for only $45.00 a month. Save big time in the long run)
So any tips and tricks for the Xperia ZL I should know about? I have model number C6506.
Only con I have about the device, is the battery life. It doesn't seem the best, but I also understand that it has a 5" screen, so what does one expect?
Viralistic said:
No regrets! I love it. Amazing screen, awesome camera, nice design, and tons of extras on the software end. I am definitely glad I went with the Xperia ZL!
The story is, I was torn between the HTC One and the Samsung S4. I could not decide. Then I happened to be on the Sony website because I had a $250 gift card for the sony online store. I happened to stumble across the Sony Xperia Z and ZL. I liked everything about it, and the more I thought about it I realized how much more unique it would be to own one. Everyone and their brother is running around with an HTC One and S4 right now. So I went for it. The phone was marked down from $759 to $569, I received 10% off for student discount, minus $250 from the gift card, and I got the sales rep to give me free next day shipping. So all said and done I only paid around $275.00, compared to $600 for an HTC One, and $700 for an S4.
(I was looking for an unlocked phone only so that I could utilize a pre-paid service that runs on AT&T for only $45.00 a month. Save big time in the long run)
So any tips and tricks for the Xperia ZL I should know about? I have model number C6506.
Only con I have about the device, is the battery life. It doesn't seem the best, but I also understand that it has a 5" screen, so what does one expect?
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Nice choice i really like more SONY than SAMSUNG and HTC, this is a really amazing phone its the only phone on the market with 75% screen and the rest bessel. i recomend you to update by OTA to the latest version 4.2.2 , camera improve, sound improve, transparent navigation bar and notification. for the battery use Stamina mode and only mark the really important apps you use. for example i have whatsapp, facebook msn, and gmail. remember that all sony devices have a preinstaled screen protector. i recomend not to take it off. and dont scare if you see a scratch on it ( its a protector the real screen is under ). BTW wich color you bought?
danieldp1990 said:
Nice choice i really like more SONY than SAMSUNG and HTC, this is a really amazing phone its the only phone on the market with 75% screen and the rest bessel. i recomend you to update by OTA to the latest version 4.2.2 , camera improve, sound improve, transparent navigation bar and notification. for the battery use Stamina mode and only mark the really important apps you use. for example i have whatsapp, facebook msn, and gmail. remember that all sony devices have a preinstaled screen protector. i recomend not to take it off. and dont scare if you see a scratch on it ( its a protector the real screen is under ). BTW wich color you bought?
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Thanks for the response. I went with black. Not sure about the update quite yet. Everything works great, and I don't like to fix things that aren't broken. Will look into it. What does OTA mean?
OTA means: Over The Air via w_lan...
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After you update the phone to 4.2.2, I recommend a factory reset. For some reason, it helps.
Im sorry to ask another question but is better than creating another thread I'm going to the US in a month or so and I wanna know something about the price of the phone, everywhere I read the ZL is ~570$ and up. On Amazon the XZL is 514$+tax (I think its 7% on NJ right?) So if I buy the phone from amazon its about 560$ right? Is there another website that I can check to buy the phone? Thanks!
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maxee23 said:
Im sorry to ask another question but is better than creating another thread I'm going to the US in a month or so and I wanna know something about the price of the phone, everywhere I read the ZL is ~570$ and up. On Amazon the XZL is 514$+tax (I think its 7% on NJ right?) So if I buy the phone from amazon its about 560$ right? Is there another website that I can check to buy the phone? Thanks!
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New egg currently has the C6506 on sale for $529 for July 4 only.
danieldp1990 said:
Nice choice i really like more SONY than SAMSUNG and HTC, this is a really amazing phone its the only phone on the market with 75% screen and the rest bessel. i recomend you to update by OTA to the latest version 4.2.2 , camera improve, sound improve, transparent navigation bar and notification. for the battery use Stamina mode and only mark the really important apps you use. for example i have whatsapp, facebook msn, and gmail. remember that all sony devices have a preinstaled screen protector. i recomend not to take it off. and dont scare if you see a scratch on it ( its a protector the real screen is under ). BTW wich color you bought?
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I didn't know sony comes with a real screen protector, good to know. I installed a new one over the Sony one.
Hope you enjoy it man.
I have mine just 2 days back,and completely amazed after galaxy1,2,3.
Back to sony after p1i few years back! :good:
Torn between this baby and the Z
I'm getting a bit of cash soon and decided it's time for an upgrade (My Ion keeps getting grabbed by my kids so i'm left without a phone, besides it will make for a grat media center with my dock), I'm torn between the Z and ZL. so far i've made a list of pro's and cons:
ZL:
pros
-cheaper! (I can get it for less than $500 dollars on amazon, even seen some great deals on it)
-size(it's a bit bigger than the ion but not by much compared to the Z)
-proper camera button( Never understood why android makers never put camera buttons on their phones, its what i missed the most from my N8)
Screen/Bezel ratio(Big screen, small bezel. need i say more?)
cons
-No waterproofing(not a deal breaker but would be nice to have)
-"Limited" dev support(i like to flash custom roms. If i cant find em guess it would be time to learn how to port.
Z
Pros
-Flagship(gets all the attention)
-waterproof
-eye catching design(not that the ZL is ugly, but the glass gives the Z a premium look)
Cons
no camera button
Expensive
Glass tends to pop up and separate from the phone(apparently a design flaw, it's being discussed on the Z forums)
flaps get worn over time and loose waterproofing.
So, ZL users, should i go for it? I dont mind that it has s4pro chipset(same architecture as S600 but underclocked a bit so it's no slouch). WOuld like to hear your thoughts.
I have both currently, and will be returning the Z.
Unless you plan to go underweater with the Z and take pictures, then really that feature is not so great. And having to open/close the flaps constantly is annoying.
You will not regret the ZL, AND when you do buy it, DO NOT LET THE SOFTWARE UPDATE. 4.2 sucks.
luisoman2000 said:
I'm getting a bit of cash soon and decided it's time for an upgrade (My Ion keeps getting grabbed by my kids so i'm left without a phone, besides it will make for a grat media center with my dock), I'm torn between the Z and ZL. so far i've made a list of pro's and cons:
ZL:
pros
-cheaper! (I can get it for less than $500 dollars on amazon, even seen some great deals on it)
-size(it's a bit bigger than the ion but not by much compared to the Z)
-proper camera button( Never understood why android makers never put camera buttons on their phones, its what i missed the most from my N8)
Screen/Bezel ratio(Big screen, small bezel. need i say more?)
cons
-No waterproofing(not a deal breaker but would be nice to have)
-"Limited" dev support(i like to flash custom roms. If i cant find em guess it would be time to learn how to port.
Z
Pros
-Flagship(gets all the attention)
-waterproof
-eye catching design(not that the ZL is ugly, but the glass gives the Z a premium look)
Cons
no camera button
Expensive
Glass tends to pop up and separate from the phone(apparently a design flaw, it's being discussed on the Z forums)
flaps get worn over time and loose waterproofing.
So, ZL users, should i go for it? I dont mind that it has s4pro chipset(same architecture as S600 but underclocked a bit so it's no slouch). WOuld like to hear your thoughts.
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I am been happy with the ZL, I can upload files from the web browser and i never was able to do it in the Apple iPhone 4s, i sold it and bought this phone. The only thing I would like Sony to modify in future Xperia products is to switch the speakers and put it on the side or front. It is annoying to have a call and use the speaker when this is in the back, you have to basically turn the phone the other way to hear clearly. If you want to multitask while talking it is painful.
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I have the chance to trade my nexus 4 for a zl.... Should I go for it?
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How would we know what your needs are?
Jeez
sharky2013 said:
I have the chance to trade my nexus 4 for a zl.... Should I go for it?
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Honestly, I have never been happier than with this phone. My Nexi was great while it lasted, never liked the back being glass. The ZL has everything the 4 had, but just better. Do yourself a favor, and even though the Sony skin is not too cumbersome, just do a custom ROM. You'll enjoy it much more. Sony has made the process of unlocking and flashing almost as painless as possible. I absolutely LOVE the skinny bezel around it. I am happier with this device than I had been with any other.
wonderful, I also wnna one, but it's expensive in my country.
Hi, I have the HTC One Developers Edition on AT&T in the US. I love it but camera is bad.
Question: can the bootloader be unlocked on the ZL?
Does it work on AT&T LTE radios in US? Anyone have any other advise on comparing the ZL to the One?
I sincerely appreciate the help.
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maddie01 said:
Hi, I have the HTC One Developers Edition on AT&T in the US. I love it but camera is bad.
Question: can the bootloader be unlocked on the ZL?
Does it work on AT&T LTE radios in US? Anyone have any other advise on comparing the ZL to the One?
I sincerely appreciate the help.
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Yes, but you need to buy a version of the ZL that has an unlockable bootloader. The SIM unlocked version that Sony, Amazon and most retailers sell can have the bootloader unlocked. For AT&T you need the C6506 (this is the model made for the US and has both AT&T and T-Mobile HSPA and LTE frequencies). The C6503 will only give you HSPA on AT&T so I would avoid it.
I don't like that the One has permanent buttons. The new Google model (from the Nexus 4) is to have the buttons on screen so they can disappear when you don't need them, like with full screen video. Other than that, the ZL has some decent support for AOSP ROMs. Cyanogenmod 10.2 (Jellybean 4.3) is available for the ZL and it runs pretty well. It's still a work in progress but luckily the Xperia Z and the ZL share similar internals so as long as there is CM for the Z, the ZL will have it.
The stock Timescape Sony ROM is decent, and 4.3 will surely come soon, but I feel the Sony ROM is slow. There is pure AOSP available for the ZL but it doesn't include radio support along with other proprietary drivers, so it won't work as a daily ROM, but CM is very close to AOSP.
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Yes, but you need to buy a version of the ZL that has an unlockable bootloader. The SIM unlocked version that Sony, Amazon and most retailers sell can have the bootloader unlocked. For AT&T you need the C6506 (this is the model made for the US and has both AT&T and T-Mobile HSPA and LTE frequencies). The C6503 will only give you HSPA on AT&T so I would avoid it.
I don't like that the One has permanent buttons. The new Google model (from the Nexus 4) is to have the buttons on screen so they can disappear when you don't need them, like with full screen video. Other than that, the ZL has some decent support for AOSP ROMs. Cyanogenmod 10.2 (Jellybean 4.3) is available for the ZL and it runs pretty well. It's still a work in progress but luckily the Xperia Z and the ZL share similar internals so as long as there is CM for the Z, the ZL will have it.
The stock Timescape Sony ROM is decent, and 4.3 will surely come soon, but I feel the Sony ROM is slow. There is pure AOSP available for the ZL but it doesn't include radio support along with other proprietary drivers, so it won't work as a daily ROM, but CM is very close to AOSP.
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Thank You very much for the detailed reply! Very cool. I will look for the C6506. Take care and I truly appreciate the time you took to help me out.
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So many people complaint that camera,video playback quality is very bad.but I dont accept this,using applications like procapture,camera fx are really good,and for video playback,i just trasfer 720p videos directly from computer,default player itself plays great.
What do you guys say? Or do you know any other better applications? Please share....
Sorry my English is bad
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Very powerful phone
giridhargp said:
So many people complaint that camera,video playback quality is very bad.but I dont accept this,using applications like procapture,camera fx are really good,and for video playback,i just trasfer 720p videos directly from computer,default player itself plays great.
What do you guys say? Or do you know any other better applications? Please share....
Sorry my English is bad
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It is indeed a very powerful phone.. 2 years back.. my s2 used to run like this.. s2 was bought for 28k and this one for 12.25k
Truly satisfied.. Do wateva u want on it.. ROOT it make it more faster and efficient.. My daily battery usage is just 30 to 40% with normal usage.. 3g.. games .. calling.. browsing.. music.. movies..etc etc etc
I recommend -- MX Player, Default Walkman for music and Stock Cam
maybe for some people, but not for me, xperia m is great
I think you're right about the camera, we should use other camera app for better quality, the stock camera is difficult to get the focus
durveshthorve433 said:
It is indeed a very powerful phone.. 2 years back.. my s2 used to run like this.. s2 was bought for 28k and this one for 12.25k
Truly satisfied.. Do wateva u want on it.. ROOT it make it more faster and efficient.. My daily battery usage is just 30 to 40% with normal usage.. 3g.. games .. calling.. browsing.. music.. movies..etc etc etc
I recommend -- MX Player, Default Walkman for music and Stock Cam
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Benchmark result for Xperia m is greater than s2.
And battery is really good,
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It is a phone which can even support high end games and the internal memory is the only thing which limits it. By rooting that problem is solved. Another issue I found is the display is not so vibrant or bright as That of Samsung or HTC and the home-back button coming in the touch screen I another stupid make. Otherwise it's one good for the price phone
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It is a phone which can even support high end games and the internal memory is the only thing which limits it. By rooting that problem is solved. Another issue I found is the display is not so vibrant or bright as That of Samsung or HTC and the home-back button coming in the touch screen I another stupid make. Otherwise it's one good for the price phone
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See this
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jmjjaison said:
It is a phone which can even support high end games and the internal memory is the only thing which limits it. By rooting that problem is solved. Another issue I found is the display is not so vibrant or bright as That of Samsung or HTC and the home-back button coming in the touch screen I another stupid make. Otherwise it's one good for the price phone
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Also see this asphalt 8 on my device
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Yes this is one way ie. Swapping another is by creating a partition on sd
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Yes this is one way ie. Swapping another is by creating a partition on sd
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I didn't create any partition on sd card,there s thread called "swaping internal memory and sd card,vice versa" I did that
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Sony XPERIA M
The XPERIA M (C1905) is a brilliant little phone.
I bought one for my mother♥.
The main drivers were:
● Light (115g)
● Long battery life (1 week with her usage)
● Small(ish) form factor (124 x 62 x 9.3 mm)
● Good GPU (Adreno 305, which says more about me than my mother)
● Stylish design (Purple requested)
The Sony XPERIA M really is a joy to use. When all the above is combined into one package at an attractive price, it is a true winner for the average user.
And the real bonus is my mother likes her first Android phone.
She just uses, txt/mms, phone, calendar, email, WhatsApp, Sony Weather widget, camera a bit and the other basics.
I have root'd the phone and removed Twitter and Facebook and most of the other 'bloatware'.
Use SetCPU with screen off profiles and thus able to reduce battery consumption to the minimum. (Approx. 7% per day if not used)
I was pleasantly surprised I could get 109Mbits/sec real throughput on 5Ghz WiFi.
The downside of the XPERIA M is that it is unlikely to ever see Android 4.3 or above and any upgrades will be contained within the current Android versions.
The 2GB user data storage is an inconvenience for those on a rooted phone, but a considerable barrier for those with a stock XPERIA M.
The camera has a distinct blue tint on some phones, which is very noticeable.
The camera can still take well defined photos and we should see improvements in this area as upgrades are released in the future :fingers-crossed:.
There is no MHL support on the XPERIA M (C1904/C1905) at this time. This may change in the future either provided by Sony or via XDA Developers.
Accessories
SanDisk Extreme 64GB microSD card
MicroUSB 4-in-1 card reader.
Mugen 1900mAh battery for XPERIA L (which most likely will fit the XPERIA M)
Summary
If people bought an XPERIA M for the right reasons and NOT because they couldn't afford a Sony XPERIA Z1, the phone is very capable of providing the basic Android experience and in many cases way beyond Android phones with higher specs/prices.
Other phones in this range.
Nokia Lumia 520/525 - WP8, battery only 1430mAh, no NFC, Miracast or front facing camera. Same SoC as the XPERIA M.
If you can tear yourself away from Android, this phone is the big winner in smartphone steaks for the basic user, just on price alone.
Sony XPERIA L - Everything slightly bigger and heavier with prices still tracking the XPERIA M, but XPERIA M GPU performs better on smaller screen. Personal thing, but I like the looks of the XPERIA M better.
Samsung Galaxy Ace 3(LTE) - Ugly, A good phone in this range, but priced above the XPERIA M
Samsung Galaxy Core i8260 - Ugly, similar in specs to an XPERIA M, but with only an Adreno 203 GPU
Samsung Galaxy S4 mini - Ugly, betters the XPERIA M in almost all specs (both have Adreno 305), but more costly.
LG Optimums L5 and L9 - Mostly lower spec'd GPU.
HTC One mini - Over priced for what you get and no SDcard.
HTC Desire SV - Ugly, old GPU (Adreno 203) and quite heavy.
Dr Goodvibes said:
The XPERIA M (C1905) is a brilliant little phone.
I bought one for my mother♥.
The main drivers were:
● Light (115g)
● Long battery life (1 week with her usage)
● Small(ish) form factor (124 x 62 x 9.3 mm)
● Good GPU (Adreno 305, which says more about me than my mother)
● Stylish design (Purple requested)
The Sony XPERIA M really is a joy to use. When all the above is combined into one package at an attractive price, it is a true winner for the average user.
And the real bonus is my mother likes her first Android phone.
She just uses, txt/mms, phone, calendar, email, WhatsApp, Sony Weather widget, camera a bit and the other basics.
I have root'd the phone and removed Twitter and Facebook and most of the other 'bloatware'.
Use SetCPU with screen off profiles and thus able to reduce battery consumption to the minimum. (Approx. 7% per day if not used)
I was pleasantly surprised I could get 109Mbits/sec real throughput on 5Ghz WiFi.
The downside of the XPERIA M is that it is unlikely to ever see Android 4.3 or above and any upgrades will be contained within the current Android versions.
The 2GB user data storage is an inconvenience for those on a rooted phone, but a considerable barrier for those with a stock XPERIA M.
The camera has a distinct blue tint on some phones, which is very noticeable.
The camera can still take well defined photos and we should see improvements in this area as upgrades are released in the future :fingers-crossed:.
There is no MHL support on the XPERIA M (C1904/C1905) at this time. This may change in the future either provided by Sony or via XDA Developers.
Accessories
SanDisk Extreme 64GB microSD card
MicroUSB 4-in-1 card reader.
Mugen 1900mAh for XPERIA L (which most likely will fit the XPERIA M)
Summary
If people bought an XPERIA M for the right reasons and NOT because they couldn't afford a Sony XPERIA Z1, the phone is very capable of providing the basic Android experience and in many cases way beyond Android phones with higher specs/prices.
Other phones in this range.
Nokia Lumia 520/525 - WP8, battery only 1430mAh, no NFC, Miracast or front facing camera. Same SoC as the XPERIA M.
If you can tear yourself away from Android, this phone is the big winner in smartphone steaks for the basic user, just on price alone.
Sony XPERIA L - Everything slightly bigger and heavier with prices still tracking the XPERIA M, but XPERIA M GPU performs better on smaller screen. Personal thing, but I like the looks of the XPERIA M better.
Samsung Galaxy Ace 3(LTE) - Ugly, A good phone in this range, but priced above the XPERIA M
Samsung Galaxy Core i8260 - Ugly, similar in specs to an XPERIA M, but with only an Adreno 203 GPU
Samsung Galaxy S4 mini - Ugly, betters the XPERIA M in almost all specs (both have Adreno 305), but more costly.
LG Optimums L5 and L9 - Mostly lower spec'd GPU.
HTC One mini - Over priced for what you get and no SDcard.
HTC Desire SV - Ugly, old GPU (Adreno 203) and quite heavy.
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Super.... Great review,,,,thanks
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Dr Goodvibes said:
The XPERIA M (C1905) is a brilliant little phone.
I bought one for my mother♥.
The main drivers were:
● Light (115g)
● Long battery life (1 week with her usage)
● Small(ish) form factor (124 x 62 x 9.3 mm)
● Good GPU (Adreno 305, which says more about me than my mother)
● Stylish design (Purple requested)
The Sony XPERIA M really is a joy to use. When all the above is combined into one package at an attractive price, it is a true winner for the average user.
And the real bonus is my mother likes her first Android phone.
She just uses, txt/mms, phone, calendar, email, WhatsApp, Sony Weather widget, camera a bit and the other basics.
I have root'd the phone and removed Twitter and Facebook and most of the other 'bloatware'.
Use SetCPU with screen off profiles and thus able to reduce battery consumption to the minimum. (Approx. 7% per day if not used)
I was pleasantly surprised I could get 109Mbits/sec real throughput on 5Ghz WiFi.
The downside of the XPERIA M is that it is unlikely to ever see Android 4.3 or above and any upgrades will be contained within the current Android versions.
The 2GB user data storage is an inconvenience for those on a rooted phone, but a considerable barrier for those with a stock XPERIA M.
The camera has a distinct blue tint on some phones, which is very noticeable.
The camera can still take well defined photos and we should see improvements in this area as upgrades are released in the future :fingers-crossed:.
There is no MHL support on the XPERIA M (C1904/C1905) at this time. This may change in the future either provided by Sony or via XDA Developers.
Accessories
SanDisk Extreme 64GB microSD card
MicroUSB 4-in-1 card reader.
Mugen 1900mAh for XPERIA L (which most likely will fit the XPERIA M)
Summary
If people bought an XPERIA M for the right reasons and NOT because they couldn't afford a Sony XPERIA Z1, the phone is very capable of providing the basic Android experience and in many cases way beyond Android phones with higher specs/prices.
Other phones in this range.
Nokia Lumia 520/525 - WP8, battery only 1430mAh, no NFC, Miracast or front facing camera. Same SoC as the XPERIA M.
If you can tear yourself away from Android, this phone is the big winner in smartphone steaks for the basic user, just on price alone.
Sony XPERIA L - Everything slightly bigger and heavier with prices still tracking the XPERIA M, but XPERIA M GPU performs better on smaller screen. Personal thing, but I like the looks of the XPERIA M better.
Samsung Galaxy Ace 3(LTE) - Ugly, A good phone in this range, but priced above the XPERIA M
Samsung Galaxy Core i8260 - Ugly, similar in specs to an XPERIA M, but with only an Adreno 203 GPU
Samsung Galaxy S4 mini - Ugly, betters the XPERIA M in almost all specs (both have Adreno 305), but more costly.
LG Optimums L5 and L9 - Mostly lower spec'd GPU.
HTC One mini - Over priced for what you get and no SDcard.
HTC Desire SV - Ugly, old GPU (Adreno 203) and quite heavy.
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Gsmarena confirms that our phone supports MHL...
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giridhargp said:
Super.... Great review,,,,thanks
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Thanks, but probably not a requirement to re-paste my war and peace epic on each subsequent post.
You're more than welcome to only quote a relevant extract/portion where relevant.
giridhargp said:
Gsmarena confirms that our phone supports MHL...
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That may not be correct for a C1904/C1905 Android v4.1.2 device.
MHL is not listed as supported in any Sony documentation and that includes the White Paper.
Have a generic MHL adapter arriving in a few days, so I'll know one way or the other.
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That may not be correct for a C1904/C1905 Android v4.1.2 device.
MHL is not listed as supported in any Sony documentation and that includes the White Paper.
Have a generic MHL adapter arriving in a few days, so I'll know one way or the other.
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there are some indo guys using mhl in single...they showed the pics of using device with mhl...in fb group
Thats really cool
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@ansebovi - That would be way cool if MHL works. As mentioned I have a MHL adapter on a slow boat from China, so I'm always up for a challenge. Does one know if the 'indo guys' where using stock ROM, or if they'd mod'd something to get it to work.
Either way if someone has done it and documented/observed it working, it's a good sign.
Thanks all for the heads up.
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@ansebovi - That would be way cool if MHL works. As mentioned I have a MHL adapter on a slow boat from China, so I'm always up for a challenge. Does one know if the 'indo guys' where using stock ROM, or if they'd mod'd something to get it to work.
Either way if someone has done it and documented/observed it working, it's a good sign.
Thanks all for the heads up.
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i dont know him...
but i think only stock...
most Xperia M users were new to android or new to sony...so i think they didnt change it...
hey after I upgraded the firmware all of the issue about the camera n bluish screen was gone
Shammatt said:
hey after I upgraded the firmware all of the issue about the camera n bluish screen was gone
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Yup and cm 11 is released for Xperia m, have to try
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giridhargp said:
Yup and cm 11 is released for Xperia m, have to try
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it's awesome our xperia m get unofficial kitkat. I'm waiting for the stable version
Hi,
I was a Nexus 4 user. N4 screen, which is 4.7", was too big for me. I often use my phone with one hand, so 4.7" is way too big.
I just sell my N4 and am planning to buy a 4" phone. As far as I'm aware, there are no new-4"-Android phones from well-known brands. Probably there are, but I didn't find them. So I pick some phones from the internet. The candidates are Xperia M, S3 Mini, and Zenfone 4. Personally, considering its specification, I prefer Xperia M Dual, but I want to hear some opinions.
1) Is Xperia M worth to buy nowadays?
2) What about updates? (Official from Sony and community support)
3) Is there any hardware/software weakness?
4) Any other phones as a suggestion?
Thank you
Are you Vanilly user or Advanced user?
Hello mandayugana. :laugh:
I just finished useing my xperia m (my gf got hers stolen so i renewed contract to get a new phone).
Hope this helps you, here is what i see so far about Xperia M;
1) Is Xperia M worth to buy nowadays?
- Depends what youre looking for . your previus phone was for sure better in specs but you wont suffer with this litle guy except for one small detail; Space :crying::crying:
- YOu have only 1.5Gb Free space total!!! and if you dare useing an sd, thers no native app moveing to sd.. i k now, sucks. Now, you can bypas this by Lynk2SD method but you require root, so if youre used to rooting, youll be fine with this baby.
- Consider you get a 5mp camera witha SWEET sensor, NFS support, and some nice seed in this litle monster, midrangue smartphones do not get all this sweetness so eazyly
2) What about updates? (Official from Sony and community support)
- What updates? if its not a flagship Sony wont really support over 6 mounths so dont think of it.
3) Is there any hardware/software weakness?
- Internal memory!!!
- External memory is considered your 2nd SD (this is WHY it doesnt support app migration -normally-)
4) Any other phones as a suggestion?
- To be honest this phone is quite wirth the budget price. maybe a xiaomy would be good but sony did its work way too well. :laugh:
IMPORTANT NOTE!!!! If youre an advanced user, MAKE A BACKUP OF THE INNER DATA; this will allow you to return your phone to previous state and keep waranty. If you do this before boothloader unlocking youll save yourself a lot of trouble.
Bro , Go for latest ones...
Camera is worst in xperia M , and not even a official kitkat update....
Definitely not. The only actual benefits you get are active support from developers, if you are into tinkering.
But I have to say, this device is physically unbreakable.
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hi i have sony xperia M Model: c1905 single Sim
if you're interested pm me
Hi everyone, so last month I decided to switch from iPhone 6 Plus(16GB) to an Android phone. I'm just tired of Apple and iOS, no further comments. To begin I watch lots of movies and some TV shows, I'm thinking about a phone with a big more-than-FHD-resolution screen. As far as I see Z5 Premium is a great choice despite the hardware, and it has a MicroSD slot, which is pretty important for me. On the other hand 6P's screen is better than the iPhone 6 Plus, but not as good as Z5 Premium and has no MicroSD slot; I don't understand why Google hates removable storage... Although the software support for 6P is great, and we all are aware of Sony's software update policy. I am also hyped for the new HTC Nexus, but like I said big screen, high resolution(preferably more than FHD) and microSD(unless 64GB+) are the features I consider until the release of the next gen Nexus phone. So I don't want to wait for nothing. I'm not a phone gamer and hardware doesn't have to be superb. Last thing to add is that I've been doing ISS spotting, and in terms of camera performance, I would like to have a phone with high ISO values, and high MP. I know I want a lot from a smartphone, and Z5 Premium seems to be more suitable for my needs. But the question here is should I wait for the next Nexus Phone, or should I go with Z5 Premium. I would be much appreciated if you post ANY opinions. Lastly I would like to say that the reason why I open this thread to the Z5 forums is that I feel closer to the Z5P. Thank you all and excuse my errors if there's any.
Looks like you've done quite a bit of research on what you want. My question is where those the only fones you considered? See www.gsmarena.com for a whole lot more that might also suit you. Now I have a Z5P and it might be the last Sony fone I get. It is good, but the rate of updates is slow, the route to root is painful but I am enjoying it.
My 2 pence worth...
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guhvanoh said:
Looks like you've done quite a bit of research on what you want. My question is where those the only fones you considered? See [gsmarena link] for a whole lot more that might also suit you. Now I have a Z5P and it might be the last Sony fone I get. It is good, but the rate of updates is slow, the route to root is painful but I am enjoying it.
My 2 pence worth...
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My only concern is the update speed of all Xperia phones. I know there are tons of other solutions, but I think I will stick to either Sony, or Nexus. I LOVE Nexus and I think I will wait and see the 2016 Nexus, if it has a decent camera I will go with it otherwise Z5P...
TYRTlive said:
My only concern is the update speed of all Xperia phones. I know there are tons of other solutions, but I think I will stick to either Sony, or Nexus. I LOVE Nexus and I think I will wait and see the 2016 Nexus, if it has a decent camera I will go with it otherwise Z5P...
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Sony has proved to be somewhat slow in updating. I've only just got the April security patch level but it is for LL 6.0.1. The Z5P is a very good fone, you'll enjoy it if you get one.
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Answering you I like Trying summing up a good nice novel! .. where to start? well let me answer in Bullets, keeping your impressive research in perspective. ( keep in mind i am diehard xperia fan, and current on my 6th Xperia device z5p E6833)
1. Z5P comes with 128GB support for SD card, i have 32gb installed. classtype10 toshiba
2. Sony updates are usually later (than sooner). but i like their ROMS interface. keep it simple and to the point policy
3. Z5p has GREAT sharp HD screen and viewing angles are amazing. you can actually read text even from 30degree angle.
4. but in general ~ The maximum display brightness in Z5 Premium is a little lower when comparing to Z3+, Z5 and Z5 Compact. The maximum display brightness of Z5 Premium is 600cd while it's 700cd in Z3+, Z5 and Z5 Compact. Also the Z5p reduces brightness further when the device temperature rises specially OUTDOORS. (especially summer).
5. z5p has GOOD battery life! compare to other big screen fones, lasts 2 days (1day if 4g browsing with hd movies)
6. z5p are difficult to root (since you are coming from iphone. i would suggest you to please do a bit research about ROOTING android devices (models to models) and android versions to version. ROOTING z5p is one tricky. the question you should ask WHY ROOTING? and based on that criteria consider it one of the third option in your criteria list of 1. screen size 2. hd 3. rooting before buying any device.
7. GOOGLE Android MM has dm-verity (security feature ) which make sure your device is not tampered in terms of software and it does not boot if any one had tried fooling iwth your device (changing boot etc). on TOP of that , sony has SONY-RIC since years which make sure NO one tries to tamper RUNNING ANDROID (rooting/etc) and SONY-RIC shutsoff the device (or reboots) whenever any software tried exploiting system vulnerabilities to gain ROOT ACCESS.
THE BOTH FEATURE COMPBINED in z5p, make device heavy on RAM.
if you like SONY z5p. you should give it a try. also based on your criteria the following two devices you should CONSIDER (at least looking at, or going to mall holding in hands for hands-on experience)
1. Xperia XA performance ( 6.0" screen HD, but batterlife is below average)
2. LG V10
YasuHamed said:
Answering you I like Trying summing up a good nice novel! .. where to start? well let me answer in Bullets, keeping your impressive research in perspective. ( keep in mind i am diehard xperia fan, and current on my 6th Xperia device z5p E6833)
1. Z5P comes with 128GB support for SD card, i have 32gb installed. classtype10 toshiba
2. Sony updates are usually later (than sooner). but i like their ROMS interface. keep it simple and to the point policy
3. Z5p has GREAT sharp HD screen and viewing angles are amazing. you can actually read text even from 30degree angle.
4. but in general ~ The maximum display brightness in Z5 Premium is a little lower when comparing to Z3+, Z5 and Z5 Compact. The maximum display brightness of Z5 Premium is 600cd while it's 700cd in Z3+, Z5 and Z5 Compact. Also the Z5p reduces brightness further when the device temperature rises specially OUTDOORS. (especially summer).
5. z5p has GOOD battery life! compare to other big screen fones, lasts 2 days (1day if 4g browsing with hd movies)
6. z5p are difficult to root (since you are coming from iphone. i would suggest you to please do a bit research about ROOTING android devices (models to models) and android versions to version. ROOTING z5p is one tricky. the question you should ask WHY ROOTING? and based on that criteria consider it one of the third option in your criteria list of 1. screen size 2. hd 3. rooting before buying any device.
7. GOOGLE Android MM has dm-verity (security feature ) which make sure your device is not tampered in terms of software and it does not boot if any one had tried fooling iwth your device (changing boot etc). on TOP of that , sony has SONY-RIC since years which make sure NO one tries to tamper RUNNING ANDROID (rooting/etc) and SONY-RIC shutsoff the device (or reboots) whenever any software tried exploiting system vulnerabilities to gain ROOT ACCESS.
THE BOTH FEATURE COMPBINED in z5p, make device heavy on RAM.
if you like SONY z5p. you should give it a try. also based on your criteria the following two devices you should CONSIDER (at least looking at, or going to mall holding in hands for hands-on experience)
1. Xperia XA performance ( 6.0" screen HD, but batterlife is below average)
2. LG V10
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Thanks for your reply! Actually I have an old s5830i, and I have a general knowledge of Android ecosystem. But my intention is not to make the warranty void in the first day. I know Z5p has a very good screen, and the market is full of similar devices right now. But I think I will be waiting for this years Nexus release, and decide considering those phones.
TYRTlive said:
Thanks for your reply! Actually I have an old s5830i, and I have a general knowledge of Android ecosystem. But my intention is not to make the warranty void in the first day. I know Z5p has a very good screen, and the market is full of similar devices right now. But I think I will be waiting for this years Nexus release, and decide considering those phones.
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Nexus 7 wont have sdslot
http://bgr.com/2016/08/10/googles-new-nexus-phones-will-be-just-as-fast-as-the-galaxy-note-7/
YasuHamed said:
Nexus 7 wont have sdslot
http://bgr.com/2016/08/10/googles-new-nexus-phones-will-be-just-as-fast-as-the-galaxy-note-7/
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I saw that coming... But I don't think I would need an SD card if 128GB version is cheap. I will wait and see just to make sure about my choice. I hope they are going to release it sooner this year(compared to Nexus 5X and 6P release)
TYRTlive said:
I saw that coming... But I don't think I would need an SD card if 128GB version is cheap. I will wait and see just to make sure about my choice. I hope they are going to release it sooner this year(compared to Nexus 5X and 6P release)
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I'm not trying to throw a spanner in your works but Nexus has been getting more expensive with the new iterations. I see you're going to wait. That's good. Enjoy whichever device you do end up with.
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guhvanoh said:
I'm not trying to throw a spanner in your works but Nexus has been getting more expensive with the new iterations. I see you're going to wait. That's good. Enjoy whichever device you do end up with.
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perhaps he should consider buying oneplus3 ...
Z5P is great, the community is great, the sony default rom is great, camera is great, everything is gr8.
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