On the fence about upgrading - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone,
I need to get a new phone, long story short my VZW Galaxy S3 is done and I can no longer get a warranty replacement. I am eligible for an upgrade but im on the fence about upgrading. The new HTC looks amazing seems to be well built and all around a good phone. I was originally planning on upgrading to the Galaxy S5, but now that its been announced I am extremely disappointed with it, I juts dont see it as a worthwhile upgrade to the S3 (the same reason I didint upgrade to the S4).
I have to buy a phone in the next day or two and im kind of in a weird situation because I was originally holding off to see the OnePlus One announcement and probably purchase it if it lived up to its hype. I was considering buying a HTC One for now and selling it to use towards a full retail OnePlus One.
The M8 looks like a great phone but my biggest concerns with it are the camera, the non removable battery & custom rom support for VZW. Is the M8 camera a significant upgrade to the S3 camera? According to reviews the camera is the weak point of this phone (quality wise). No removable battery is huge for me unless the battery life is much improved over the S3 (I alternate between batterys because battery life sucks on the S3). What about roms for HTC devices on Verizon, is there a chance we will see custom roms and good development?
I would appreciate some feedback!
Thanks

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What phone would you get?

Title basically says it all. If you are eligible for an upgrade, what phone would you get and why?
The new samsung galaxy s3 because i think the performance of the new exynos quad core processor would be great......like the old exynos on the galaxy s2
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I would also go for the Samsung Galaxy S 3. However, I would like to have a Rezound until then
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Galaxy Nexus for me. Hackability, perfect size, Nexus!
Owning a rebound I can tell you it is a great device. But the battery life is not the best, about 9 hrs moderate use ( the extended battery helps a lot but is bulky). The American version of the galaxy S3 will not have a quad core so I would recommend the rezound or nexus. Both great devices obviously the rezound has sense which I love but if your not into then the nexus would be your best bet.
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Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
I still wouldn't mind Galaxy Journal. Shame it's being released so late
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Inc4g lte if it has the same camera tech as the one series.
Amphibliam said:
Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
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I actually agree with what you say. The next phone I'm getting is most likely a Nexus (assuming Samsung is making it of course) unless Verizon screws us over and ditches the next Nexus. Otherwise I'm going with a GSIII or the iPhone.
"All of those bacon strips"
gsm nexus, or iphone. i can't stand the Android skins.
What would be even better it's if HTC got the next nexus device. Rumor is they were talking to google about it for jelly bean.
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if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
Nit you pretty much summed up my thoughts on the Inc4G. I'd like to see what official cost is and if it's not too bad I may try and score one off contract. I was finding Nexus and Rezounds going for 200-300 on ebay barely used.
I'd skip the Nexus because honestly it seems like it's been pretty lackluster compared to expectations people had for it. I also am not a fan of the whole ICS Holo theme which is why I'm so drawn to Sense4.
SGIII did absolutely nothing for me. The press conference was boring and it looks like just another run of the mill Galaxy phone. Touchwiz is also horrid and really ugly.
nitsuj17 said:
if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
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100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
andybones said:
100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
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Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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jman42028 said:
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
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The OG Incredible was my first Android too! It was the perfect intro to Android. I had the original Samsung AMOLED screen, which was much nicer than the SLCD version (imho) so it was gorgeous, and was easy to root. I flashed so many roms on that phone. I'm really surprised I didn't wear out the nand chip. I traded that phone for a Fascinate, with which I had a love-hate relationship. That's where I really learned how to use ADB. I won an LG Revolution from Phone Arena a couple months later, which was okay, but the way that phone was coded together, it was impossible to do anything with it. Plus, is was LTE, so it didn't have working AOSP. No devs ever got the phone, so its development situation was a little lacking. I traded it for my DInc2 about a month after I got it and I've had this phone since August. I've been so much happier having an HTC again. After Sammy and LG, I've been confirmed in my OEM of choice. It's not like Moto is going to sway me. Haha
I pre-ordered the Evo LTE yesterday, as I'm jumping to Sprint. I got bumped off my contract by family because they wouldn't give me the billing account password after they changed it, so I couldn't pay my bill over the phone anymore. They told me I had to drive down 45 minutes every month to pay them, which I couldn't do because I had lost my car in an accident that wasn't even my fault. It sucked. I lost my unlimited data plan.
If I were still on Verizon, I'd be jumping for joy that the Inc4G is a One S variant. The One S outperforms the S4 version of the One X a bit because it's qHD, not 720p. Plus, 4" is the perfect screen size. I don't think I'm gonna like the 4.7" screen on the Evo LTE at first. I'll get used to it, but damn that's a huge phone.
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hoodieNation said:
Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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i wouldnt use an upgrade on a 6/7 month old phone running an older s3 processor...but thats me
Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
jakob95 said:
Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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well thats point, i wont buy something thats already older and tie myself for 20 months to it
and the thing with sense devices is that they historically a wasteland for dev support when another huge one comes out...so id bet you ll loose most of the rezound developers come the fall if verizon launches something that much better
now thats not to say other (new) devs wont step in, like the og inc and evo 4g saw...but stll
buy what you want obviously, but thats my take on things

to buy or not to buy: galaxy nexus

hi guys, just wanted a general consensus from you guys regarding the galaxy nexus build quality and i'll explain why. I spend a lot of time travelling and do end up staying in places for months at a time. I'm currently planning on going to india for the next 6-8 months and would be travelling in between as well. Now, since samsung doesn't sell the nexus in india, it would not be covered under warranty as well.
I personally haven't used a phone warranty to the best of my memory and as is the human mind, now thats all I can think about. I've been using a blackberry for nearly 12 years and i'm used to reliability and phones that stand up to some abuse and not fail on me. If I was to buy the nexus, would I be looking at anything failing in the first year? is it known to have certain faults etc? And if it does, is it relatively fixable? I have no qualms about opening up a phone and replacing parts if need be, but i'm not going to start soldering things.
So basically, my question is, is the nexus a problem phone (is there anything I should look for when buying the piece), and if its a real pain, should I just get another android phone? and if so, which one? as much as I would like to get the s3, I can't justify spending that much money and I thought of getting the galaxy note but doesn't seem sensible considering the new update is coming out in sept/oct? Basically my requirements are: reliable phone, best user interface with quick os updates (reason for nexus phones), should have nfc, front facing cam, very good pic quality with no shutter lag, preferably already on ICS, and a phone with worldwide warranty as I do travel a lot, and I think most importantly, it should be future proof for the next year (it should run apps with no lag or difficulty, should be able to multi-task, etc) with very good battery life (more than a day).
thanks for the help guys!
Hmmm, you come to a Galaxy Nexus forum to ask whether to buy a nexus
Worldwide warranty, Nexus don't have that.
If you want the front camera to do video calls over UMTS(Not data), the Gnex can't do it, can only use skype or similar programmes.
And to add on, the Nexus have only been released for 5 Months, don't really have any major hardware issues as far as i know.
Mach3.2 said:
Hmmm, you come to a Galaxy Nexus forum to ask whether to buy a nexus
Worldwide warranty, Nexus don't have that.
If you want the front camera to do video calls over UMTS(Not data), the Gnex can't do it, can only use skype or similar programmes.
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What he said. I truly hope you didn't come to the Galaxy Nexus forum hoping to be talked out of buying this fantastic phone.
That said, it is a truly fantastic phone. You can't find a better one for the money right now, though you're not going to find a worldwide warranty.
I got mine as a early fathers day gift and I'm so happy I got it soon. Best phone I have had.
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Mach3.2 said:
Hmmm, you come to a Galaxy Nexus forum to ask whether to buy a nexus
Worldwide warranty, Nexus don't have that.
If you want the front camera to do video calls over UMTS(Not data), the Gnex can't do it, can only use skype or similar programmes.
And to add on, the Nexus have only been released for 5 Months, don't really have any major hardware issues as far as i know.
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Well, any video calls I would be making would be through skype. I figured this would be the best place to see if the phone has any major hardware gripes.
I'm currently considering buying the phone from gsmnation for $440 plus an additional $50 for worldwide 1 year warranty.
I haven't had any problems at all, but get the warranty just in case, since you will be out of the US.
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not worth it. Galaxy S3.
Wait for the GS3 to be released so you can better compare the two.
I think it really comes down to a few things:
1. Vanilla Android vs. Skinned (HTC Sense, MotoBlur, TouchWiz)
2. Hardware
3. Individual software features
For a pure Android 4.0 ICS experience, you will get that with the [GSM] version of the phone. The Verizon LTE version (the one I have) has been through a series of 'episodes' that have soured the community a bit. It isn't as powerful as the GSM version, nor do we get updated as much. In fact, Google dropped it from their developer's list a few months back. So with that said, if you're on Verizon I wouldn't bother. Is it a good fun? Its great, but it could have been better had Verizon not tampered with it.
On hardware, the phone is a few months old, but its still pretty impressive for hardware. The GS3 will have some upgrades under the hood, but not by much. My phone is fast and does what it needs to do. Could it be better? Yes, but it works.
Concerning individual software features, I think the GS3 beats the Nexus here. While I am personally not a fan of all the gimmicky features, others find them to be quite impressive. There's definitely more offered on the GS3 in that department, but if you don't care about S-Voice, S-Dial (I think that's what it is called), and some of the other stuff, then the Nexus will do you just fine.
AppsRUs said:
Wait for the GS3 to be released so you can better compare the two.
I think it really comes down to a few things:
1. Vanilla Android vs. Skinned (HTC Sense, MotoBlur, TouchWiz)
2. Hardware
3. Individual software features
For a pure Android 4.0 ICS experience, you will get that with the [GSM] version of the phone. The Verizon LTE version (the one I have) has been through a series of 'episodes' that have soured the community a bit. It isn't as powerful as the GSM version, nor do we get updated as much. In fact, Google dropped it from their developer's list a few months back. So with that said, if you're on Verizon I wouldn't bother. Is it a good fun? Its great, but it could have been better had Verizon not tampered with it.
On hardware, the phone is a few months old, but its still pretty impressive for hardware. The GS3 will have some upgrades under the hood, but not by much. My phone is fast and does what it needs to do. Could it be better? Yes, but it works.
Concerning individual software features, I think the GS3 beats the Nexus here. While I am personally not a fan of all the gimmicky features, others find them to be quite impressive. There's definitely more offered on the GS3 in that department, but if you don't care about S-Voice, S-Dial (I think that's what it is called), and some of the other stuff, then the Nexus will do you just fine.
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You do not understand the circumstances regarding Google and Verizon. It isn't updated less, it is just updated slower. It isn't less powerful, they have the same specs.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
It's a beast phone. Get it. You'll be glad you did.
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Is the galaxy nexus still a good option

I can find plenty for cheap. I've been deployed and have a 4s and 4g came to our area so just curious if the nexus still stacks up good to new phones?
Also I should mention I had a galaxy nexus before the 4s so I know what it's capable of.
hinds90 said:
I can find plenty for cheap. I've been deployed and have a 4s and 4g came to our area so just curious if the nexus still stacks up good to new phones?
Also I should mention I had a galaxy nexus before the 4s so I know what it's capable of.
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Yes, and if you can get it around 250 dollars, it will be a steal. It will last you at least 2 more major android releases and still be generations ahead of the apple phones.
Nope. Move along sir.
I got mine off of ebay in November after having an iPhone for 2 years. I was worried at first because I was stuck on 4.1.1 (I have the verizon version), which ran very smooth, but i bought a nexus to get the latest updates. After rooting and upgrading to MMuzzy ROM with Tiny kernal, I have yet to see a smoother phone. I was really only going to use this phone for about 6 months before I upgraded to something else, but I decided that this phone is more then enough for me. I love the stock android and the power is enough.
The only thing I hate is how bad the battery life is though.
I've found quite a few used for under 250$ lol one in excellent condition for 75$. Before I deployed my area didn't have 4g but now it does I'm not due for a upgrade till later this year so figured I go back to the nexus and get 4g for cheap. Battery life doesn't concern me just bring a charger every where I go.
*facepalm*
If you had one yourself before, why are you even asking?
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Although it might not be the best comparison, I messed with all the hottest brand new phones at Verizon a few months ago and they are no where near as smooth as my galaxy nexus. The reason it might not be fair is I've been running roms and kernels since I got it. Stock for stock... I dunno. I wasn't all that impressed with the gs3, least not like I thought I would.
Well I'm asking because it was a year ago that I had the phone and wanted to know how it stacked up against the newer phones. I'm not currently in the states so figure it was a question worth asking until I got back.
No!!!
Battery sucks.
Camera sucks.
and so on..
We all know it is pure Android. But S3 is a way better. At least the hardware.
I still love my phone and will have to live with it at least one year
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I will say its a pretty solid phone even in 2013, it might start to feel a bit dated by Q3 but as of right now I think its fine. I bought 2 GNex for my mom and sister during Christmas. Sadly over paid for one @ $200 and the screen had scratches on it (night deal didn't see the scratches). The second one I bought was much cheaper @ $170 and came with a case and dock with an extra battery, but badly damaged housing. Only reason i bought that one was because the screen was perfect and replaced the housing for $15 bucks. Still cheaper then the first one I bought and now looks mint.
Dad got the hTC One S and although I love the build and design of the phone and the hardware is better. I still think i may trade that for a GNex or at least put CM/AOKP on it, coz hTC won't support it past 4.2 if it even gets 4.2 and as it currently stands its much slower then the GNex thanks to bloated Sense.
For my family members they use it as a phone more then anything else and maybe some browsing so I think it will last them another 3 years or so. Don't think Google will support it past Android 5 though.
These were major upgrades for them, coming from 1GHz, 512MB RAM and ****ty camera. The camera not the best but decent so can't really complain.
PS I love the AOSP look which is why i run AOKP on my S3 but Sense over touchwiz and hTC build quality over Samsung any day. hTC just gets cheap on the hardware mainly camera/screen and RAM.
Gnex is a good option because it will always have the latest updates and more roms than other phones but if you don't have a tight budget then go for htc one x+ or note 2 (if you don't mind the size), Nexus 4 would be a good choice but it's rare. I would not recommend s3 as s4 is going to come out soon or you can get an s3 after the launch of s4 as it'll be much cheaper by then.

Gnex upgrade.

Hi there.
As my good old gnex yesterday, got a big fall, it felt down from 2nd floor outside the window, and on the asphalt.
I need a new phone as fast as possible.
I know that the N5 is around the corner, but i can`t wait. I need phone for work.
The desired phones are - Galaxy s4, nexus 4, or maybe note 3.
Looked at Htc One, but i need a little bit bigger screen than 4,7inch.
Any suggestions?
between S4 and N4.
What about getting another cheap/used GN, then order the N5.
I would order a cheap phone to get you by, then order the N5 when it comes out.
Personally I can recommend SGS4 as an upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus. I just recently switched from GNex as my main phone to SGS4. Performance even on stock is so sweet compared to the aging Nexus (running latest stable Slim Bean). Flashing custom ROMs won't be as easy as on the Nexus though and you'll get KNOX warranty void AFAIK...
Rd. Vortex said:
Personally I can recommend SGS4 as an upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus. I just recently switched from GNex as my main phone to SGS4. Performance even on stock is so sweet compared to the aging Nexus (running latest stable Slim Bean). Flashing custom ROMs won't be as easy as on the Nexus though and you'll get KNOX warranty void AFAIK...
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I think, i`ll go for it. i`ve newer tried touchwiz, ;D
And, i hope, that the performance improvement will be noticable.
And, i can any time make it a Google edition . :good:
I know that the N5 is around the corner, but i don`t care. And in my country it will be maybe only next year. As the N4 showed in stores only in may.
I would probably go for note3 only if i could afford it. I herd good things about battery life on note 2 so i assumed note3s would be par with note2.
another consideration would be s4 (only cuz my friend have 1 and its blazing fast outta box) or G2 ( i herd good things about this 1)
since we all come from nexus, if you don't miss dev supports, i know what we miss- battery life, so i would go for note3, g2 or s4 if NOT going for
nexus 5
Get a barebones phone for now and grab an N5 when it's out, that's goin to be in a few days and you will have one of the beastly device !
I can go for Note 3 too, but the size is a bit scaring me.
Anyways, i`m going to buy a new phone on contract, not in direct way. And as i said for the nexus, it will only be available on contract here in my country, maybe next year .
Or maybe go for Htc One?
Or get the Nexus 4 and after a half year go for N5 when it will be available.
The biggest thing now is to choose from N4 and S4.
N4 has great developement support, but the S4 has great specs and 5inch 1080p display.
Esterra said:
I can go for Note 3 too, but the size is a bit scaring me.
Anyways, i`m going to buy a new phone on contract, not in direct way. And as i said for the nexus, it will only be available on contract here in my country, maybe next year .
Or maybe go for Htc One?
Or get the Nexus 4 and after a half year go for N5 when it will be available.
The biggest thing now is to choose from N4 and S4.
N4 has great developement support, but the S4 has great specs and 5inch 1080p display.
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I should go with the nexus 4 and then buy a nexus 5 when it's cheap or wait for the nexus 6
The G2 is a bigger version of the N5.
It has a bigger screen, better camera, bigger battery, etc.
I'd love a G2, except I can't bring myself buying an LG phone after the G2x I had.
I'm really torn between the G2 and the Note3 or S4.
The G2 is the best phone out there ATM with S800 processor, 1080P screen, 2 or 3gb of Ram, 16mp camera with hardware anti-stabilizing. They have some really slick looking stock cases. The back buttons are kind of weird until you think about using it with a flap case, no longer do you have to search the side of the phone for the buttons. Being on the back would make it sweet for controlling volume when listening to speaker calls or pandora.
It is also getting released on all major carriers in the US and worldwide, all with the same specs. So I suspect that development will be pretty good on it. especially that the N5 will be it's little brother, roms should be able to be ported relatively easily.
The Verizon version also has Qi Charging AND is UNLOCKED for GSM radios. So you can pop in a AT&T/Tmobile/StraightTalk/SimpleMobile and go.
Buy the GS4 and call it a day. Especially if you have the money and can't wait. Otherwise, get a used Nexus 4 or some other phone and hold out.

Are you going to keep your G4?

Having previously owned the G2 and G3, I was looking forward to the G4, however personally the camera is the only reason why I stick with it. Everything else seems like a downgrade from the G3, especially in the looks and feel. I'm glad we have root and Xposed which helps greatly, but going from the G2 to the G3 showed a large decline in dev support, and seeing as how it's been several months since release and we still have no custom ROMs makes it seem like there is going to be very little dev support going forward, even if we eventually get custom ROMs.
I don't remember wanting a new phone so quickly the last 2 years, but I've been anxiously awaiting the new phones this fall to see if there is something else that I'd like more. I'm leaning towards either the Moto X Pure or new Nexus.
Is anyone else disappointed enough in either the phone or dev support that they are looking to replace their G4 earlier than usual?
For most people the G4 is one heck of a phone, but for those of us who hang out here, no development = no fun.
I do like the G4 for the most part. It has it's issues though. Particularly the Verizon one more so from all I've read.
I mainly am bothered by the touchscreen issues. So many missed taps or swipes registering as taps instead and opening things I meant to just swipe across or whatever. Little bit of lag but it's workable.
Coming to it from the Galaxy S4 it was definitely an upgrade regardless. The only thing that really stopped me from buying the S6 edge was the piddly battery and it not being changeable. Now that the S6 edge + is out and they've beefed up the battery, in hindsight if it was released at the same time I would have bought that instead because I did like the S4 for it's time.
That's the tech world for you though, you buy something new that's the best that day and something (arguably) better comes out right around the corner.
Every point I was going to make has been covered.
The Samsung development overshadows LG development, 2 to 1.
Definitely will be a consideration on the next purchase.
Take note LG, we wont be fooled again.
I was going to sell my G4 now, but not really excited about anything out there. Probably waiting for the new Motorola X Pure. Checked selling prices on swappa and I will already lose $100 or more if I sell now. Maybe I shouldn't wait..
I already got the galaxy s6 edge+ and have the moto x pure arriving soon. The development in this and the main G4 section bores me, so i recently listed my G4 on Swappa. Time will tell if i list my Samsung, but I should at least be good with the moto for a while!
If I wasn't trying to save money, I would consider the MXP. That said, even though there isn't a thriving development community for it, the G4 works pretty well for my needs since root and Xposed are available for it and haven't been giving me any issues.
mtva24 said:
I already got the galaxy s6 edge+ and have the moto x pure arriving soon. The development in this and the main G4 section bores me, so i recently listed my G4 on Swappa. Time will tell if i list my Samsung, but I should at least be good with the moto for a while!
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I remember reading that the Note 5 and I assume S6 Edge + are not able to be unlocked/rooted on Verizon and AT&T, as Samsung has incorporated that into Knox that the phones will no longer work if modified (or something along those lines).
I miss the days when pretty much all phones, especially flagships, had tons of dev support and were rooted quickly. Seems like as time goes on pretty much only Nexus and unlocked global phones get any support.
Bailed for Nexus 6...couldn't take not having roms....... my wife is happy with it.
Made the exact same decision. I don't miss that phone at all. Nexus 6 may be older but it still is a kick a** phone
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I may regret this decision, but I decided to preorder the iPhone 6s lol
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So far love the G4, but it's only been a week, not noticing any issues thus far. Coming from a bad experience with a Sony Z3V and Verizon, who finally agreed to give me a new phone and I picked the G4. My biggest concern was the battery but I'm getting 2 days with moderate use.
Yes, for now.
In general the phone is pretty good I'm just disappointed that there is no unlocked boot-loader and custom recovery as yet for the VS986. I hope it becomes available in the near future.
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Coming to it from the Galaxy S4 it was definitely an upgrade regardless.
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I have a Galaxy S4 and trying to decide between the S6 and G4. What has me most considering the G4 over the S6 is the lack of removable battery and expandable memory on the S6. Reviews I have seen mostly rate the S6 higher as far as specs. But I can live with a slightly slower performing phone if it has other features more important to me. I don't care what material the phone is made of because I always put them in cases to protect them. You say the G4 is definitely an upgrade. What about the G4 in your opinion make it better then the S4? Also that screen issue you were referring to, is that typical of the G4 or an issue with some owners? I would appreciate feedback from any other former S4 owners. Thanks.
Pretty unhappy with my G4, even after rooting and trying several fixes for existing issues. The battery life is poor at best, the touch screen misses and issues are awful and on top of that, general lag persists throughout the day. Overall, I WANT to like the phone. I like the camera, the shape, etc. I really think we need the bootloader unlocked to have users fix these issues that LG and VZW cannot. I'm stuck on the edge plan, so I guess I'm waiting.
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I have a Galaxy S4 and trying to decide between the S6 and G4. What has me most considering the G4 over the S6 is the lack of removable battery and expandable memory on the S6. Reviews I have seen mostly rate the S6 higher as far as specs. But I can live with a slightly slower performing phone if it has other features more important to me. I don't care what material the phone is made of because I always put them in cases to protect them. You say the G4 is definitely an upgrade. What about the G4 in your opinion make it better then the S4? Also that screen issue you were referring to, is that typical of the G4 or an issue with some owners? I would appreciate feedback from any other former S4 owners. Thanks.
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Well to be honest as I write this I'm working on getting myself into the S6 edge + or Note 5 now that they've come out. More on that later.
But, coming from the S4 back in June my contract happened to be up for upgrade on the exact release date of the G4, I would have been totally content to stick with the Galaxy line had they not gotten away from the removable battery and SD card support in the S6, and the battery that is in the S6 really is pretty tiny. That was the deciding factor for me buying the G4 much like you're concerned with. Other than those things the S6/S6 edge would have been perfect to me. I decided to try something new and went with the G4 on the basis they had the removable battery and SD card slot (and the changeable backs as a bonus).
Naturally with there being two years between my S4 and the G4, the G4 is faster and smoother, has a better display, better camera. That's just advancements in technology at work. Down the line we'll look at the same specs as today's flagship phones as minor leagues.
Read around here and just about any phone forums, you'll see the same things echoed to varying degrees:
S6: Piddly battery life, no SD card, no removable battery, great looking screen, fast, arguably best camera, great build with the glass/metal, quick charge/wireless charge built in
G4: Bigger swappable battery, great (larger) screen, fast but some models lag depending on carrier, arguably best camera, nice changeable backs, wireless charge not built in, some models with touch screen response issues
Like I said you'll read the same things everywhere and just have to decide what works best for you. If you're the type that prefers to swap the battery for a quick boost to 100%, don't buy the S6 obviously. If you like the idea of using wireless charging, don't buy the G4 obviously. If you prefer a smaller screen go with the S6, if you want big go G4 (Or the newer Note 5 or S6 edge + of course), if you want to try a new button scheme go G4 (I do like the rear buttons) or if you like traditional side buttons go Samsung. It's a tough call really, you get what I mean, either way it's been years since the S4 so no matter what you're going to get a better phone due to the advancements both companies have made. Compared to the S4 both the S6 and G4 will fly through processing, have better displays, have better cameras, and be more efficient. You just have to decide which features are more important to you.
Now, I know you didn't mention the newer S6 edge + or Note 5 but they've been released since the G4 was released and in hindsight if they'd been released all at the same time I'd have chosen one of them over the G4 and am probably switching over to one of them soon as I can. As I said earlier the only reason I went with the G4 over the original S6 was the tiny battery in the S6, and in the newer two phones Samsung has beefed up that department to match the G4 at 3000mah. So that said, I'm probably looking to get back into a Samsung, because when it was in it's prime, I really did love my S4.
My main gripe with the G4 is the touch screen response, which like I said if you read around you will see it is pretty common and no known fix has been brought to light. It seems pretty hit or miss but it is really frustrating.
Hopefully I helped and answered some of your questions. If not feel free to let me know.
Cwey55 said:
Well to be honest as I write this I'm working on getting myself into the S6 edge + or Note 5 now that they've come out. More on that later.
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Cwey I very much appreciate your detailed and very helpful reply. After reading it this morning I decided to get the S6. I picked one up a 64gb version a couple of hours ago and my wife got a iPhone 6S (she loves apples ). I figure with 64gb's SD card memory expansion is no big deal. I had to give up my unlimited data because I'm doing the 24 month no-contract phone payment service. I really don't use a lot of data anyway. I was on the old service plan paying for minutes and text. I'm actually paying about $10 a month less with unlimited calls and text. I looked into other phones also like the soon to be relesed Nexus 5X but the specs don't seem to be that great. The S6 Edge+ and Note 5 are too big for my taste. The larger size of the G4 is also a negative for me. Also I have the S6 with the OE2 firmware which can be rooted. The updated OF1 cannot be rooted at this time. I just have to be careful not to allow the firmware update to go through. Thanks again.
I got a Nexus 6 as well. Great phone even though it is old now. Also got a One M9 and sent it off to Java Card S-Off'ed. Also a good phone with custom roms. I miss the G4 camera a bit but nothing else.
I'll be looking at the Nexus 5X or the Moto X Pure as a replacement for the G4
I'm not sure how long i will keep it, because the digital products update so fast!

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