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Is it possible to install 4.1.2 custom rom on a note2 which has official 4.3?
Bump.... Any one tried this?
That's what I'm wondering too! It's what's keeping me from updating bootloader/rom right now
Bump.. bump? Anyone running a custom 4.1.2 rom on 4.3 bootloaders?
I have had no issues. With roms on 4.3 Other then my Knox counter tripping.
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jester12345 said:
I have had no issues. With roms on 4.3 Other then my Knox counter tripping.
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How did you install 4.3 bootloader, did you upgrade from 4.1.2? Can you point me to the instructions for the same?
I'm looking to install clean rom 5.0 with 4.3 bootloader
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I'm looking to install clean rom 5.0 with 4.3 bootloader
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Why? Did you already flash a 4.3 rom? Just restore a nandroid.
No it is updated officially to 4.3, so has the new bootloader.
So can't reverse the bootloader, but the question is can I install 4.1.2 based rom now?
All I did. Was odin the rooted stock 4.1.2 put on cwm and flashed rom
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I was going to say just use Odin to return to stock JB. I found that advice in a thread about this for at&t, but later on the thread a Canadian user said it worked for him.
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I was going to say just use Odin to return to stock JB. I found that advice in a thread about this for at&t, but later on the thread a Canadian user said it worked for him.
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how do u reset knox counter
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how do u reset knox counter
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Not possible....
The bootloader would need a downgrade...and so far....we can't do that.....g
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Can we root the official At&T 4.3 yet?
I Odin'd my phone back to 4.1.2 before sending it out due to a bad headphone jack. It updated to 4.3 today and curious when my replacement comes and probably has 4.3 on it already, can it be rooted quick and just run a rooted stock for a while?
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Good KNOX info http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
after you do it you will have to update SU through the play store and then it will disable knox for you as well..
Geeve
geeve420 said:
This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
after you do it you will have to update SU through the play store and then it will disable knox for you as well..
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Thanks alot!
No worries! Just keep in mind after you do it you'll get notifications about knox and security. Ignore them and head to the play store to update SU, because you won't be able to open SU till then. Also bear in mind that this will trip the knox counter and there is no going back.....it will void your warranty! You have been warned
Geeve
geeve420 said:
No worries! Just keep in mind after you do it you'll get notifications about knox and security. Ignore them and head to the play store to update SU, because you won't be able to open SU till then. Also bear in mind that this will trip the knox counter and there is no going back.....it will void your warranty! You have been warned
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KNOX counter is seperate from the Flash Counter? Before when I was on stock 4.1.2 and flashed custom 4.3 and 4.4 roms , I never saw any KNOX notifications or warning...Is this new with the 4.3 OTA?
My first phone had headphone jacks issues too. i reset it with odin and had it replaced with no issues from at&T. Now this one is repeating the same issue. I Odin back to 4.1.2 and took the 4.3 OTA before i call them and they want to remote desktop into my phone like before.
If KNOX only comes with the 4.3 OTA i wont take it if the replacment phone doesnt come with 4.3 preloaded
Anyway of confirm KNOX status on my phone? or is it something at&t doesnt look at
I Rebooted into download mode and it says KNOX Warranty VOID:0
So i guess I am good with this one......?
Never saw the KNOX before in download mode...So it must have came with the 4.3 OTA
If the replacemnt comes preloaded with 4.3 and I root theres no going back for non rooting warranty issues
If it comes with 4.1.2 i should be ok...cause my others came with 4.1.2 and i rooted and installed 4.3 and 4.4 roms , odin'd back to 4.1.2 and never saw knox before.
It's new in the 4.3 OTA MK6. It is separate from the flash counter and CANNOT as of now be reset. They can see it in the same place the flash counter is.
It will show 1 which means warranty void. If you can get one without 4.3 do it
This is what it looks like now:
Triangle away still works but the knox counter stays no matter what!
Edit: If it is still showing 0, then you are good to go
Geeve
thats good news LOL
4.3 preloaed=screwed if i root it
4.1.2 preloaded= no knox, free to root, flash, unroot and reset , send back with any non root related warranty issues.
Glad i didnt root the OTA in the meantime while i wait for my replacment..
Thanks for all info and help Geeve
You got it and no problem
Geeve
So i guess no custom 4.3 or 4.4 rom will install KNOX behind our backs..Just the OTA and any possible updated bootloaders if we dont pay attension and flash one
Baseband/Modem updates should not install knox...correct?
Correct! all the custom 4.3/4.4 roms use a leaked bootloader and most if not all have the knox stuff removed. It is only the MK6 OTA for our phones that is screwing us right now. We can still root and flash, but warranties are void..
Geeve
This topic won't help me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502464
I hate not being able to tinker
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What is your baseband version in settings -> about device?
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What is your baseband version in settings -> about device?
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Here's a screen shot
Looks to me like you have the official MK6 OTA. I wouldn't mess with it if you have to return it. That other thread wont help.
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Looks to me like you have the official MK6 OTA. I wouldn't mess with it if you have to return it. That other thread wont help.
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Ok. Thanks
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The more I read in forums the more confusrd I am.. If I just root to do things like change dpi and make builprop edits will that trip Knox or just if I attempt to install TWRP
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Any attempt to flash the device recovery will trip Knox....g
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CF auto root is a custom recovery....with kernel and cache=Knox will be tripped...g
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Any attempt to flash the device recovery will trip Knox....g
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So just rooting and leaving stock recovery will trip?
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Ok so I updated my girlfriend's note 2 to 4.3 via odin the offical stock one and I got this on the bootloader.
I want to add that the update failed a couple of times when flashing the system but the third time went ok and the phone booted.
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mezo91 said:
Ok so I updated my girlfriend's note 2 to 4.3 via odin the offical stock one and I got this on the bootloader.
I want to add that the update failed a couple of times when flashing the system but the third time went ok and the phone booted.
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Latest BOOTLOADER is locked now there's nothing we can do yet. Don't trigger the KNOX counter it will void warranty forever. Please do some research how NOT TO TRIGGER the knox counter by means of flashing.
I know the knox void warranty yes. I mean the "RP SWERV: A2" what's that?
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I have a T-mobile Galaxy S4 and it's currently running danvdh's GPE edition. I am considering updating via the OTA to get the new baseband/radio. I currently have the mixed MK2/MDL radio/baseband. I know that I'll get knox if I update...but IIRC, the Knox apps are able to be removed, and flashing new ROMs will trip Knox, but aside from voiding the warranty, what else does this do? Nothing? Lol
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Your phone will say sea android kernel not enforcing when the phone starts up.
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Your phone will say sea android kernel not enforcing when the phone starts up.
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This is a full and complete answer, by the way. That is all it will do aside from the warrent.y It does not affect your daily use at all.
Just to confirm though. If I go back to complete stock and do this update and then apply any kind of root it will hit the Knox flag right?
Right now mine is still 0x0
Pretty sure it's flashing a custom recovery that trips Knox, not rooting.
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Android_Monsters said:
Pretty sure it's flashing a custom recovery that trips Knox, not rooting.
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yes it is
TheArtiszan said:
Just to confirm though. If I go back to complete stock and do this update and then apply any kind of root it will hit the Knox flag right?
Right now mine is still 0x0
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I rooted my GS4 running 4.3 with knox counter and it didn't trip anything. Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Good Luck
Mr Wizard
mr wizard said:
I rooted my GS4 running 4.3 with knox counter and it didn't trip anything. Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Good Luck
Mr Wizard
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I would like to point out that as of right now I have not seen a method to root 4.4 without tripping knox counter. 4.3 yes Saferoot works but not for 4.4
I'm coming from an HTC device which required both rooting and flashing an unlocked bootloader, so I'm a bit confused as to the ease as to which it seems this device can be rooted.
After digging though the forums, I have a few questions:
I'm seeing nothing in regards to unlocking the bootloader, so I'm assuming that's not an issue/anything important with this device?
I'm seeing root methods using both ODIN and Heimdall, and I'm at a loss (again, I'm coming from an HTC device) as to which is the best?
What I'm looking to do is have a fully open device (flash any ROM, kernel, radio, etc. I'd like); I understand Samsung has a flash counter (KNOX, I believe), and I'm fine with that (as long as it doesn't lock me out at some point ... does it?); and I'm not sure which method would give me that.
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I'm coming from an HTC device which required both rooting and flashing an unlocked bootloader, so I'm a bit confused as to the ease as to which it seems this device can be rooted.
After digging though the forums, I have a few questions:
I'm seeing nothing in regards to unlocking the bootloader, so I'm assuming that's not an issue/anything important with this device?
I'm seeing root methods using both ODIN and Heimdall, and I'm at a loss (again, I'm coming from an HTC device) as to which is the best?
What I'm looking to do is have a fully open device (flash any ROM, kernel, radio, etc. I'd like); I understand Samsung has a flash counter (KNOX, I believe), and I'm fine with that (as long as it doesn't lock me out at some point ... does it?); and I'm not sure which method would give me that.
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You can root/unroot this device with ease. I believe the only gs4 with locked a bootloader are the Verizon and sprint variants. I could be wrong. But I think those are the 2 carriers that lock you out of your phone. Anyway there's very little chance of you getting locked out of your phone unless you flash the wrong files. Odin is definitely the best way to go for Samsung devices. I've been using it since the vibrant came out.
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You can root/unroot this device with ease. I believe the only gs4 with locked a bootloader are the Verizon and sprint variants. I could be wrong. But I think those are the 2 carriers that lock you out of your phone. Anyway there's very little chance of you getting locked out of your phone unless you flash the wrong files. Odin is definitely the best way to go for Samsung devices. I've been using it since the vibrant came out.
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Metro PCS has a locked bootloader too. But I think it ANY device with 4.3+
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OriginalGabriel said:
I'm coming from an HTC device which required both rooting and flashing an unlocked bootloader, so I'm a bit confused as to the ease as to which it seems this device can be rooted.
After digging though the forums, I have a few questions:
I'm seeing nothing in regards to unlocking the bootloader, so I'm assuming that's not an issue/anything important with this device?
I'm seeing root methods using both ODIN and Heimdall, and I'm at a loss (again, I'm coming from an HTC device) as to which is the best?
What I'm looking to do is have a fully open device (flash any ROM, kernel, radio, etc. I'd like); I understand Samsung has a flash counter (KNOX, I believe), and I'm fine with that (as long as it doesn't lock me out at some point ... does it?); and I'm not sure which method would give me that.
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When you root your phone and start flashing ROMs, KNOX will be tripped to 0x1 but that will just void the warranty. And I just found out a week ago that Samsung says they will still honor their warranty even if KNOX is tripped.
ODIN would be your best bet. I haven't even heard of Heimdall.
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mrzhadow said:
You can root/unroot this device with ease. I believe the only gs4 with locked a bootloader are the Verizon and sprint variants. I could be wrong. But I think those are the 2 carriers that lock you out of your phone. Anyway there's very little chance of you getting locked out of your phone unless you flash the wrong files. Odin is definitely the best way to go for Samsung devices. I've been using it since the vibrant came out.
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Awesome, thanks ... I see you're on T-Mo as well; I was just going to stick with CyanogenMod but, any ROMs you recommend for the T-Mo variant? I prefer a pretty clean interface (eg. no TouchWiz), with little "bling".
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Awesome, thanks ... I see you're on T-Mo as well; I was just going to stick with CyanogenMod but, any ROMs you recommend for the T-Mo variant? I prefer a pretty clean interface (eg. no TouchWiz), with little "bling".
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I'm a TW man so I couldn't tell you which ROM is better. I'm on insane KitKat. Great ROM!
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Metro PCS has a locked bootloader too. But I think it ANY device with 4.3+
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I think you're thinking of Knox bootloader.. Not the same thing
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I think you're thinking of Knox bootloader.. Not the same thing
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Not to bash what you are saying, but Verizon, sprint and anything with KNOX keep you from unlocking your bootloader and a locked bootloader is a locked bootloader. Am I locked bootloader right? Lol
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Kriptik210 said:
Not to bash what you are saying, but Verizon, sprint and anything with KNOX keep you from unlocking your bootloader and a locked bootloader is a locked bootloader. Am I locked bootloader right? Lol
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Having KNOX doesn't mean the bootloader is locked. The M919 on 4.3 and above has KNOX implemented but the bootloader is still unlocked regardless of what baseband version you're on. Literally the only functional difference is that pre-MK2 firmware you can't trip the KNOX counter as it hadn't yet been implemented..
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Having KNOX doesn't mean the bootloader is locked. The M919 on 4.3 and above has KNOX implemented but the bootloader is still unlocked regardless of what baseband version you're on. Literally the only functional difference is that pre-MK2 firmware you can't trip the KNOX counter as it hadn't yet been implemented..
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Oh ok. I got my m919n with 4.3 MK5 and my bootloader is locked. Feom what you are saying, I can unlock it? KNOX is already tripped so what the hell, I'll unlock it.
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I'm a TW man so I couldn't tell you which ROM is better. I'm on insane KitKat. Great ROM!
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I've seen a lot of people mention that ROM, I'll definitely take a look once I get my device up and running (damn T-Mo store gave me a SIM card that had already been activated so I have a fancy paperweight until they can release the number so that I can activate it).
Out of curiosity, this the root method you'd recommend (I have a M919UVUEMK2 baseband)? Also, is there a way to flash CWM via ODIN? I'd rather not have to set my device up in order to install ROM Manager just to flash a recovery (I'm basically wanting to root, flash CWM, make a full backup, and then wipe and install a ROM).
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I've seen a lot of people mention that ROM, I'll definitely take a look once I get my device up and running (damn T-Mo store gave me a SIM card that had already been activated so I have a fancy paperweight until they can release the number so that I can activate it).
Out of curiosity, this the root method you'd recommend (I have a M919UVUEMK2 baseband)? Also, is there a way to flash CWM via ODIN? I'd rather not have to set my device up in order to install ROM Manager just to flash a recovery (I'm basically wanting to root, flash CWM, make a full backup, and then wipe and install a ROM).
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Just flash recovery with Odin, and proceed to flash your ROM.. Root is not required
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Not to bash what you are saying, but Verizon, sprint and anything with KNOX keep you from unlocking your bootloader and a locked bootloader is a locked bootloader. Am I locked bootloader right? Lol
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No my friend.. Knox does not mean locked bootloader.. At&t & verizon do have locked boot loaders don't know about sprint, but they locked their bootloaders since before knox, nothing new
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Oh ok. I got my m919n with 4.3 MK5 and my bootloader is locked. Feom what you are saying, I can unlock it? KNOX is already tripped so what the hell, I'll unlock it.
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And how are you certain that the bootloader is locked? How was the flag tripped?
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I've seen a lot of people mention that ROM, I'll definitely take a look once I get my device up and running (damn T-Mo store gave me a SIM card that had already been activated so I have a fancy paperweight until they can release the number so that I can activate it).
Out of curiosity, this the root method you'd recommend (I have a M919UVUEMK2 baseband)? Also, is there a way to flash CWM via ODIN? I'd rather not have to set my device up in order to install ROM Manager just to flash a recovery (I'm basically wanting to root, flash CWM, make a full backup, and then wipe and install a ROM).
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Yes that will work. I recommend TWRP recovery. It works very well on our device. Here is the CWM Odin flasable .tar the download link is in post #24. If you like to give twrp a try just let me know. Also if you wanna try Insane KitKat let me know. I'm very familiar with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405433&page=3
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Yes that will work. I recommend TWRP recovery. It works very well on our device. Here is the CWM Odin flasable .tar the download link is in post #24. If you like to give twrp a try just let me know. Also if you wanna try Insane KitKat let me know. I'm very familiar with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405433&page=3
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Awesome, thanks ... I vaguely remember TWRP from when it first came out but, it never made it to my old device; I'm probably going to go with CWM for the time being as I'm more familiar with it and I'm already a bit over my head trying to figure out the Samsung way of doing things. Really though, I'm hoping MadMaxx hurries up and releases his updated 4ext which is supposed to support this device.
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And how are you certain that the bootloader is locked? How was the flag tripped?
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Im not sure how I tripped KNOX because I used Saferoot without tripping it.
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Im not sure how I tripped KNOX because I used Saferoot without tripping it.
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It could be anything. Even a simple stock recovery change will trip Knox.
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mrzhadow said:
Yes that will work. I recommend TWRP recovery. It works very well on our device. Here is the CWM Odin flasable .tar the download link is in post #24. If you like to give twrp a try just let me know. Also if you wanna try Insane KitKat let me know. I'm very familiar with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405433&page=3
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Hey, sorry to bug you again but, since we're using the same device, on the same network, think you could answer this question for me (there doesn't seem to be a lot of traffic on that thread these days, and I'd rather not start my own thread with the same question).