Is anyone making serious use of the Duo Camera? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, like many, im a bit bummed that HTC came with a 4mp camera again, but thought, oh well, at least theyve added in something new with the Duo Camera. To those who have been using it, how are you finding it, gimicky, or actually handy/useful?

It'll probably come in handy when taking shots in public, in an erstwhile photobomb.

It's good fun to use
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Camera?

Has anyone found a good camera for the nexus? I can't seem to get the stock one to give me a good crisp picture.
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Vignette.
If you don't it, you wont like any camera app.
djgdroid said:
Has anyone found a good camera for the nexus? I can't seem to get the stock one to give me a good crisp picture.
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are you tapping the screen on the focus point you want? if you dont, it wont focus on that target.
stock app is fine. you just need some practice on how to take pictures.
Yes i've found one - it's Nikon D3100. Now i'll try seriously. Google has damn good coders and if it was posible to simply write better camera app they've had it done already. No offence for other developers.
If camera is very important for you shall get some other phone with better camera, it isn't hard to find one. Or buy a proper DSLR camera (yes, i'd be fruity happy if they were as compact as mibile phones).
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Yes i've found one - it's Nikon D3100. Now i'll try seriously. Google has damn good coders and if it was posible to simply write better camera app they've had it done already. No offence for other developers.
If camera is very important for you shall get some other phone with better camera, it isn't hard to find one. Or buy a proper DSLR camera (yes, i'd be fruity happy if they were as compact as mibile phones).
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idk about that; google can't even get gmail contact images to be above 96x96, despite us asking them since 2009.
google wouldn't have done anything with this camera, samsung would have. the camera hardware on the nexus just isn't good compared to the competition, as you alluded to
MS. said:
Yes i've found one - it's Nikon D3100. Now i'll try seriously. Google has damn good coders and if it was posible to simply write better camera app they've had it done already. No offence for other developers.
If camera is very important for you shall get some other phone with better camera, it isn't hard to find one. Or buy a proper DSLR camera (yes, i'd be fruity happy if they were as compact as mibile phones).
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You could hit the middle ground and get a Micro 4/3 camera. That's my choice.
But really, the GNex doesn't take awful photos. Compose properly and take 2sec and you'll get a good enough photo for things you're taking pictures of with a phone (posting to Facebook, G+, Twitter, etc.).
jayochs said:
idk about that; google can't even get gmail contact images to be above 96x96, despite us asking them since 2009.
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Sometimes it takes a lot of effort and time to convince a developer to add a simple button on a web site and once it's done, then everyone wonders how could they live without it so long. There's loooooong story behind this from my own experience
jayochs said:
google wouldn't have done anything with this camera, samsung would have. the camera hardware on the nexus just isn't good compared to the competition, as you alluded to
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Yes, but don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that GNex has bad camera. It's just not as good as some others. And those people who actually need a good camera on their smartphones, usually going trough few reviews before buying it.
Martonikaj> absolutely agree with you, but i'm not one of those who complaining about GNex camera. I saw sample pictures/videos before i bought this phone and even more to that - take a look at my signature (the last three owned phones)
From my experience with this camera so far.
1) If you have a good light source, your fine.
2) For indoor shots, they work best when the light source is coming from behind you. Cuts down the pixelation.
3) Tap the screen at the focus point you want.
4) For night shots, I find they work best when you disable the flash. Don't use night scene mode, never had much luck with that.
Outdoor this camera can take some great shots, but indoors you have to handle it a certain way.
I was pretty sure when I decided on the nexus that the camera was going to be the weak spot. I just loved that it was pure Android. I've tried camera fx and have noticed a slightly better quality picture but I'm just not loving the interface. I was hoping someone had tried a camera app that I hadn't and liked it. I really liked the camera on my old HTC incredible but that was the only thing better than my nexus.
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3rd Party Camera Apps

Knowing that the week part of this phone is the camera (beyond low light photography)...
Is it better with third-party camera apps?
NYC Coyote said:
Knowing that the week part of this phone is the camera (beyond low light photography)...
Is it better with third-party camera apps?
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Really... I don't think the camera is weak at all... Well to each their own..
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I am taking great shots with the stock camera... Vignette is a good app...
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thanks... and excuse the typo on "weak"
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thanks... and excuse the typo on "weak"
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I was going to bite, but I did that once and someone pointed out something I misspelled years ago lol.
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Sheldor1967 said:
I am taking great shots with the stock camera... Vignette is a good app...
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what does vignette do that the stock camera can't? It has lots of manual settings and has filters.
Also, I think someone said that 3rd party camera apps lower the resolution to 3.2mp.
Weak?
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I purchased Camera Zoom FX during one of those Google sales, never used it on the S3 but like you I've not been entirely satisfied with the camera on this phone. I have tried it and keep going back and forth from it to stock. I have also tried Camera JB+, Camera Pro, HDR Camera+, Vignette and a few others. Ultra-pixel aside, it is still just 4 megapixel. though I have read that that detail alone does not mean that the camera is superior or inferior. I am by no means an expert in photography, probably don't qualify as amateur. but I know there is a difference however slight between the S3 and this one. BTW, I have still not determined if a 3rd party is better.
Mine certainly seems weak. I can't seem to get it to focus on what I'm trying to get it to focus on. My kid is holding a teddy bear, I click on her face.. it grabs focus on the bear. Every once in a while it'll nail focus and get a beautiful shot but I have the issue with the screen turning red in low light too. So maybe it's the photo sensor or a firmware thing. I'm praying it's firmware because I obviously don't want a replacement device because I'll lose S-OFF.
Verizon, naturally, is no help. "Never heard of it. HTC hasn't told us anything about it. Deal with them." ... So it could just be a 'some devices' kind of thing.. but I can understand why some might think the camera is weak. Coming from an iPhone 5, which took fantastic pictures, I've been very disappointed to say the least. Obviously, YMMV.
And since I'm sure at least someone is thinking 'go back to iPhone then', I'll add. Those shots I mentioned where focus is nailed.. the pictures are great. This camera has potential. I'M just not getting the results yet.
I just got my phone replaced because my camera couldn't focus on anything further than 3 feet away. The majority of my pictures were blurry and unusable, so I went to Verizon and a rep compared it to their floor model and agreed with me. Got it replaced (although they sent me a DNA at first...) and am loving the camera now. Yea the zoom is weak, but I don't mind.
And OP, you're not crazy. But help is on the way...
http://bgr.com/2013/09/12/htc-one-camera-bug-fix/
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...issues-coming-with-android-4-3-update-1181125
Google "htc one camera issues" .. It appears those pleased with the camera are in the gross minority.. but that's lucky for them.
One of the blurbs from the article: "In fact a poll was taken recently where 328/388 users said “Yes” to their HTC One having camera problems like the one described above." For the record, that issue was the covering the lens and seeing your screen go red or blue or purple.
Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
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one4thewings said:
And OP, you're not crazy. But help is on the way...
http://bgr.com/2013/09/12/htc-one-camera-bug-fix/
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...issues-coming-with-android-4-3-update-1181125
Google "htc one camera issues" .. It appears those pleased with the camera are in the gross minority.. but that's lucky for them.
One of the blurbs from the article: "In fact a poll was taken recently where 328/388 users said “Yes” to their HTC One having camera problems like the one described above." For the record, that issue was the covering the lens and seeing your screen go red or blue or purple.
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I'll agree with some but in the end people who don't have problems won't be looking for polls to complain. Same way to put a bias on stats by making sure you're only getting the people who will prove your point. Not saying that its great but for my person use it beats anything I've used. You can prove anything right or wrong for the main reason that the vocal ones are almost always the ones with issues.
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Thanks for this. I miss the stock Android camera. And I like the gallery layout better too.
josh995 said:
Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
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josh995 said:
Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
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Is it possible to install this camera alongside of the HTC One camera? It would be nice to have both. I don't want to lose some of the features of the HTC One camera.
Thanks!
Frankie1588 said:
Is it possible to install this camera alongside of the HTC One camera? It would be nice to have both. I don't want to lose some of the features of the HTC One camera.
Thanks!
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Yup! I've got it installed alongside the stock HTC camera. It also adds the stock Google "gallery" app too. Very awesome
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josh995 said:
Yup! I've got it installed alongside the stock HTC camera. It also adds the stock Google "gallery" app too. Very awesome
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Ohh that's cool. Didn't know that part... hmm...
Stitching
Anyone able to get their photosphere pictures to stitch together properly with the GPE camera app? Mine are totally jacked! The stitching cuts out big parts of the pictures.
nrfitchett4 said:
what does vignette do that the stock camera can't? It has lots of manual settings and has filters.
Also, I think someone said that 3rd party camera apps lower the resolution to 3.2mp.
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Blue image is the HTC Camera app, The other is Vignette... Vignette is extremely flexible, but not at all easy to use...I like it's filters. But, by and large, I am getting great shots with the stock app...I really hope that update fixes the purple/blue issues because it obviously is a software issue. If Vignette can get it right, then HTC should be able to...
I did not like the results of the google edition camera...too bright and oversaturated...
Focal now in Beta in Google Play Store
For those interested, the recently removed Focal App from CM is now in Beta in the Play Store.

Why is there a dual camera?

I dont get it.
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You must've forgotten how to use Google search. About 8 million articles came up. Here's one.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/smartphones/23729/htc-one-m8-dual-cameras
mezo91 said:
I dont get it.
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take a photo and apply 3d effect, thats one of the reasons
It's because if one camera breaks, the other one is there as a backup.
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Fair question. The truth is, I have read all the reviews, experimented with the dual camera several times and used all of its functions...but still, I don't see the point of it (# desperate gimmick) ?
Otherwise, the m8 is an outstanding phone
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The S5 can achieve the depth of field effect without having dual cameras. So I'm not sure why having a dedicated second camera makes a difference.
whmcal said:
Fair question. The truth is, I have read all the reviews, experimented with the dual camera several times and used all of its functions...but still, I don't see the point of it (# desperate gimmick) ?
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It's not a fair question, it's a pointless question. I mean... you can say that the dual camera is ineffectual and unnecessary, but just asking why it's there.... that's five seconds of Googling and just trolling.
After effects on imaging is the main feature but the Gold is in the fact you can shoot image after image and edit them all later. The focusing and imaging for such effects on Samsung and google camera requires it take 2 separate images - you have to Hold still and wait. Risk of blur, background movement etc where HTC just snap snap snap away.
And so it was

Upgrade camera sensor

What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?
mwatson said:
What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?
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Lol, why would you do that. HTC isn't stupid, they wouldn't put better camera in midranger than in flagship.
For my purpouses, camera is great. Night photos are the best. Daily are sometimes overexposed, but play a little with settings and they won't be. Pictures are good even on the monitor screen.
I would say chances are less than zero. Even if it was the same ribbon cable pinout, there's no way it's the same physical footprint so it wouldn't fit, and the software would have no idea how to talk to it. You have a better chance of your phone sprouting legs.
mwatson said:
What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?
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lol.... ¬¬ are you serious? impossible
eltoffer said:
lol.... ¬¬ are you serious? impossible
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It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.
GSLEON3 said:
It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.
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If this guy is asking for that it is impossible (st least for him/her, also don't know why we would want a worse camera on this device, not impossible for HTC but for us :/ easy
Desde HTC One M8
GSLEON3 said:
It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.
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You could solder a Subaru onto the side of the phone too, it doesn't mean it can drive. There's more to these things than a little fun with a soldering iron.
Given enough time, ambition, and access to the full source of everything involved (kernel, drivers), I'm sure it's POSSIBLE. But no one is going to do it -- that's the part that has zero percent chance of happening. For that amount of effort and time just buy a different phone that suits you better, or wait a year.
Crikey I'm not being funny but what's the big hang up with m8 camera, it's a phone for crying out loud? There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It takes perfectly good photos. Really if you need a top notch camera go and buy one that is designed for the job.
It is still funny to me, how people think the bigger number is always better.
13 mediocre mega pixels vs 4 excellent mega pixels. I prefer a camera that can actually handle different lighting conditions like the M8. I had an S5 for 2 days before returning it. The camera wasn't that great. I prefer the M8 .
It is sad that ignorant people can stifle real innovation with such blind devotion to bigger numbers. That's why Samsung does so well, they keep hyping numbers in a cheap phone and people buy it.
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Impossible :good:
It's not impossible I've done it! ! I've also constructed a rocket and lunar lander from egg boxes and managed to fly to the moon and spend the night there. Just got back to see this post! I'll post some pictures I took with the modified m8 in a while, they're absolutely cracking! If anyone else wants the mod done on there m8 off a trip to the moon send me a check for £500 and some solder oh and some egg boxes.
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Zoe sequence shot

Hi All. . .
Im back on an m8 after trying a z3 compact and I'll be honest it's the best decision I've made for a long long as while. Anyway. My question is this. When I first got a one m7 there was the 3 second recording clips (zoes) and you could use the feature where say for example someone jumped over a fence you could capture the different stages that it happened and stitch it all into one shot (sorry not the best description) does anyone know where this seems to have disappeared to now? Really wanted to use it the weekend but couldn't find it anywhere. . B
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Unfortunately, HTC removed the Zoe feature in the Lollipop update. God knows why, it was one of their big selling points for this device when it was released; and I think many folks liked it (I did as well) and lots of folks are in an uproar about its removal.
I really don't get why they removed it. I enjoyed Zoes and recorded them all the time. Hopefully someone can shed some light on why did went that way

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