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I am so tired of specs right now because the more you know the more you sink in to the mud-hole. Give me something that I can "touch", "see" & "feel" as better.
Eg.
My current 2 of 3 phones:
1. iphone 3g has 412Mhz processor.
2. Pure has 528Mhz processor
3. iphone 3g has 2 Megapixel camera
4. Pure has 5 Megapixel camera
But does it run faster or take better pictures? NO
For picture quality comparison of the 3g vs pure, See here
Note: my 3rd phone is the iphone 3GS.
So F*k the specs.
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Hei, easy tiger
Why do you rant about Pure vs iPhone here? Take it somewhere else ...j/k.
You are right, at the end, it is not the hardware spec, but "user experience".
That is (user experience) what Microsoft currently is trying to bring with their new product, WP7S.
You know, it is a "new" product. It does not even exist yet (purchaseable).
Still a lot of questions unanswered (which you will have some more clues after MIX10).
So, take it easy
Btw, about "that actually works" ... that's really depend on the user, the person who use the device.
Some users want to have full access to the device, OS, hardware, hack this, hack that, fully-super-duper-multitasking, bunch of sensors.
Some users just want to use the phone as it is ... enough with web browser, play youtube, facebook, twitter and email.
Some users just want to use the phone ... you know, for calling someone else
Like my wife, she is using Touch Dual. Why? Because she hates touch phone! Yupe, she hates iPhone, and all "latest" Windows Mobile devices.
She likes to use the phone for ... calling me and her friends, playing Solitaire (that's all) and occasionally using the TomTom 6 for navigation.
My other friend bought HTC Touch Diamond 2 and she does not have any clue. She "asked" why I have to re-charge the battery every afternoon?
I looked into her phone and I saw bunch of apps running in the background: Contact, Fring, ActiveSync, SMS ...
I told her, you must close those! She again asked "Why? Cant they close them self automatically?"
I said "Sometimes, no" ... and I could not continue. I told her husband to put custom ROM ... bla bla (of course they cant do it!).
For my wife, the HTC Touch Dual "does works", big time.
For my friend, the HTC Touch Diamond 2 "does not work" (They are now thinking to switch to iPhone).
Although HTC Touch Dual is way less spec wise!
Since I had a Touch HD and done lots of comparison shots to the iPhone 3G, I am sure the Pure's camera is actually quite a bit better.
The Pure is certainly not faster, though, and definitely less fluid. The MHz count of the Pure's processor is misleading, as it is really quite slow. Plus, Windows Mobile doesn't have nice animations and fluid physics - it has ugly screen redrawing (though it's actually not slower than iPhone OS, but a lot less fluid).
Anyway,
specs do matter. The problem is, you never get to know all the specs. The MHz and Mpixel numbers simply aren't ebough to say whether a processor is fast or a camera chip is good.
There are lots of other factors involved. But they won't tell you the "performace per clock" numbers or the "light sensitivity" and size of the camera sensor.
So, it's not that specs don't matter, it's just that you don't get to know the numbers that actually do matter. What can you do? Well, I know it's hard, but you actually have to inform yourself as much as you can, so that reading spec sheets will give you the knowledge you need before buying a device.
And you have to try for yourself. And I know it's hard, often you don't get the possibility to try a handset without buying it, and reviews usually don't give enough information, especially if you care about "small features" that usually don't get talked about in reviews.
So, keep cool
Specs can be misleading, but only because regular people don't look behind the raw numbers and have no clue about what really counts. But that doesn't mean phone makers should take away the spec sheets... some users do know what really counts, and spec sheets help them a lot to make their desicion.
Actually, they're helpful more often than not, e.g. I know Snapdragon, Cortex and ARMv7 mean "faaaast". Regular people may not know that, but it won't hurt them to read "Snapdragon" on the spec sheet either. Because in the end, they'll always have to try the phones for themselves (or at least try to get enough info from reviews).
How do you think companies can give you something to "touch", "see" & "feel"? Free try&buy devices? Not going to happen. Spec sheets give at least some hints, since there's no better alternative. And if you do your homework, they will be quite helpful
Calm down... nothing to rant about here
Thanks for the warm note my friend.....
I am a spec guy myself, but I feel as if I was cheated/scammed this time, partly because I am not a mobile device person, and definitely was not aware of this crazy MSM and ARM differences. Now I know....ha ha
Now as far as the camera goes, I know quite a bit as I am in it for a few years now, enough to say that megapixels are just the tip of the iceberg. Higher megapixel within the same sensor family is better, but then there are chips that provide better pictures at the same or less megapixels. i.e. CMOS vs. CCD . On top of that, there is the lens and the processing engine to add on to it.
The camera software in the Pure is not very good. I will tell you that. It takes quite some time for it to find the right white balance under room lighted conditions. The iphone is pretty good/better at that.
The camera software in the Pure is not very good. I will tell you that.
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I know. It's quite bad, actually. That's what I hated about my Touch HD. But nevertheless, my HD took much better pictures than the iPhone 3G (in most cases, at least). I'm sure that's also the case with the Pure.
When it comes to cellphone cameras, however, spec sheets are mostly useless.
They never tell you about anything other than the Mpixel number - which of course means nothing (though I wouldn't want to have less than 5).
The camera is very important to me. Reviews are mostly useless, because they never make direct comparisons under the same conditions. I end up buying several phones, comparing the cameras, and then selling them again... crazy, but that's all I can do
The HD2's camera is actually the first smartphone camera I would be satisfied with - if I could make the flash not overexpose everything that's less than 3m away
seed_al said:
I know. It's quite bad, actually. That's what I hated about my Touch HD. But nevertheless, my HD took much better pictures than the iPhone 3G (in most cases, at least). I'm sure that's also the case with the Pure.
When it comes to cellphone cameras, however, spec sheets are mostly useless.
They never tell you about anything other than the Mpixel number - which of course means nothing (though I wouldn't want to have less than 5).
The camera is very important to me. Reviews are mostly useless, because they never make direct comparisons under the same conditions. I end up buying several phones, comparing the cameras, and then selling them again... crazy, but that's all I can do
The HD2's camera is actually the first smartphone camera I would be satisfied with - if I could make the flash not overexpose everything that's less than 3m away
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Flash overexpose - now if only they would provide TTL flash intensity control. Goodness....
2M vs 5M
My LG-VU actually took much better pictures than the iphone 3G and Pure. The only problem was that you would not realize that until you transferred it to your PC, courtesy of the crappy resistive plasticky screen.
I still have it. Maybe I will use it as a camera only
Cameras... bleh. All smartphone cameras are awful.
But I do have to agree here: Even though one phone may have a snapdragon processor, and the iPhone may have a 412mhz processor, the iPhone navigates so much faster.
Of course, I know the reason for this, but it certainly does make me hope that Microsoft sorts this out with WP7S.
(Though, never, EVER, would I buy anything that supports Apple...)
EDIT: Also, I've had lots of people say that my Touch Pro's screen was "less sensitive/accurate than iPod/iPhone's". Even though I've tried to explain it, the average user just doesn't get it.
Even though one phone may have a snapdragon processor, and the iPhone may have a 412mhz processor, the iPhone navigates so much faster.
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No way
It's not going to beat a Snapdragon phone.
The iPhone 3G isn't that fast, actually. It's barely faster than the QCOM MSM phones, but of course much more smooth/fluid (and that despite it has 100MHz less).
Smartphone cameras? Yes, they're not good. But I'm not going to buy a dumbphone because of the camera.
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Even though one phone may have a snapdragon processor, and the iPhone may have a 412mhz processor, the iPhone navigates so much faster.
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You won't say that once you gets your hands on a HD2 (with or without custom rom I might add). It's probably the 1st (and last) HTC WinMo 6.5 phone with enough grunt to power thru practically anything. The only reason why an iPhone might feel faster is because it presents you with a flashy animation before actually loading up the app. WM phones don't do this.
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EDIT: Also, I've had lots of people say that my Touch Pro's screen was "less sensitive/accurate than iPod/iPhone's"
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Used to have a Touch HD and preferred resistive touchscreens. Several months with a HD2 changed my mind I do think resistive touchscreens are actually more accurate though, I can touch-type way faster on my HD than I can on the HD2. But that could just be a Wm 6.5 limitation.
Ok. here's the deal. CCD sensors are more noisy and most HTC camera probably use CCD sensor given the noise in low light pictures.
after researching a bit, I found out that the iphone uses CMOS sensors which actually produce a smoother, less noisy picture. No wonder.....my eyes can see the difference.
fyi...Canon uses CMOS sensors across it's line of decent to high end digital cameras, a big reason why it leads the market.
update: i also just found out that the HD2 uses a CMOS sensor too. no wonder u hd2 owners love the picture quality of the hd2.
seed_al said:
No way
It's not going to beat a Snapdragon phone.
The iPhone 3G isn't that fast, actually. It's barely faster than the QCOM MSM phones, but of course much more smooth/fluid (and that despite it has 100MHz less).
Smartphone cameras? Yes, they're not good. But I'm not going to buy a dumbphone because of the camera.
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I'm not referring to the speed, I'm referring to the navigatability (and how "fluid" it is).
Of course, I always laugh when I see the animations on someone's iPhone, because it really does make it seem like the app loads faster than it does (Hint to Microsoft?).
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Ok. here's the deal. CCD sensors are more noisy and most HTC camera probably use CCD sensor given the noise in low light pictures.
after researching a bit, I found out that the iphone uses CMOS sensors which actually produce a smoother, less noisy picture. No wonder.....my eyes can see the difference.
fyi...Canon uses CMOS sensors across it's line of decent to high end digital cameras, a big reason why it leads the market.
update: i also just found out that the HD2 uses a CMOS sensor too. no wonder u hd2 owners love the picture quality of the hd2.
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Then check again.
CCD was always superior to CMOS and probably will be for a long time(that is why they use it in science).
Almost all mobile phones(there are only few that use CCD - mostly in japan) today use CMOS sensors because they're cheaper.
Basically mobile phones are mostly using 1/3.2" sensors if not smaller and at that size CCD would offer better picture quality and low light sensitivity but would be bigger so the phone would be bigger that is why ODM's are using CMOS sensors.
More expensive CMOS sensors are used in DSLR's but show me just one P&S camera that uses CMOS.
So both HTC(all HTC's) and iphone use CMOS sensors but probably from different manufacturers hence the difference in quality and noise level.
So once and for all. For mobile use CCD would be better but it is bigger and not as cheap as CMOS sensor. In high end DSLR market it is not so clear that is why both CCD and CMOS sensors are used.
I am back to fk the specs....
It appears that at this time, there is no clear defining line between CCD and CMOS. both are very competitive, both offering it's own advantages, strengths and weaknesses.
CMOS is the future
Canon making CMOS for compact cameras
Turns out that Canon surprised everyone with its amazing CMOS
technology. Imagine that surprise that its CMOS sensor has a much
better noise performance than any known CCDs. Even Phil Askey said
the image was "silky smooth" - some wondered, "it looks too smooth,
some details must have been removed" but a closer examination found
no evidence.
Link
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I am back to fk the specs....
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haha
chiks19018 said:
I am back to fk the specs....
It appears that at this time, there is no clear defining line between CCD and CMOS. both are very competitive, both offering it's own advantages, strengths and weaknesses.
CMOS is the future
Canon making CMOS for compact cameras
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I never said CMOS was worse for DSLR. On the contrary I admitted that today both CMOS and CCD fair well in DSLR's. Considering the size of the sensor low light sensitivity seems to be equal between the two.
What I meant is that for small sizes CCD is best(almost all point&shoot cameras) and mobile phones where unfortunately manufacturers decide to use cheaper CMOS sensors - remember that there are better CMOS used in high end cameras and cheap ones used in mobile phones and PC cameras. Unfortunately we get cheap sensors in our mobile phones.
I think he reason why they are making the spec's high is because they want everything to touch and feel better. So why f*** the specs? I'm pretty sure that's going to be important. You put a 538mhz proc in a WP7 it's probably not going to want to move.
Wishmaster89 said:
I never said CMOS was worse for DSLR. On the contrary I admitted that today both CMOS and CCD fair well in DSLR's. Considering the size of the sensor low light sensitivity seems to be equal between the two.
What I meant is that for small sizes CCD is best(almost all point&shoot cameras) and mobile phones where unfortunately manufacturers decide to use cheaper CMOS sensors - remember that there are better CMOS used in high end cameras and cheap ones used in mobile phones and PC cameras. Unfortunately we get cheap sensors in our mobile phones.
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chill man, I am not arguing with you, nor I am putting you down. In fact I liked your post. made me do some more research!
The specs that the phone companies provide are like a girl saying she wears DD bra size.
When you take it off you realize that it was padded on a B size
OMG I just solved the flash exposure issue with a new driver from HTC!!
Wow that feels good! What a great camera phone I have now!!
Sorry, guys, for being OT, but I'm so happy^^
*LOL* ..... Thanks for that! I got a good laugh
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The specs that the phone companies provide are like a girl saying she wears DD bra size.
When you take it off you realize that it was padded on a B size
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There is a new phone that was leaked from nokia with a Qualcomm s4, hd screen, 41 Megapixel camera and a weird body. Also there is 1080p recording and rich sound too. Here take a look at it.
http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-pureview-lumia-windows-phone-device-images-leaked/
I know that if this is real, i sure will be buying one, and this phone also has the new micrsoft logo.
That phone looks huge, not a very nice looking phone either, the hardware is very intriguing though.
Ugly as hell hahaha
Specs=decent, that chassis is ****ing hideous though
4.3? Curved Glass with HD resolution
41mp sensor, Carl Zeiss lens and PureView imaging technology
1080p full HD recording and Rich Recording Technology
Dual Core processor with Adreno 320 GPU (Likely QUALCOMM’s S4 processor)
Windows Phone Operating System
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It's fake.
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It's fake.
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Although I agree that is looks fake (the curved screen seems very weird), Apollo will very likely introduce HD resolution screens and support for dual cores.
i wouldnt mind the phone for a 41 mp pureview camera though, remember the factory lumia leak last year, we all thought that was fake but it wasnt. This might just be an early concept in my opinion.
Really those who are going to be knocking the design shouldn't be posting,there's already more than enough of that in the comments on WMPU and WPCentral. Doesn't look bad to me and it sounds like it's going to be good.
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Really those who are going to be knocking the design shouldn't be posting,there's already more than enough of that in the comments on WMPU and WPCentral. Doesn't look bad to me and it sounds like it's going to be good.
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Ah, so you're take is that only comments that like it should be allowed? .
I think the specs are solid ('specially that camera!) but the device looks incredibly ugly and would never sell.
I did saw the Nokia Pureview with 41MP effection 35MP running on sym.
for me i t looks like an REMOTE CONTROL for an TV! but really, just imagine to use it as an WP8 and you have to type a message, on a curved display where your finger go around the device, thats not natural.
I would definitely buy this. I'm not too obsessed with slim phones. As long as it fits in the pockets I'd rather have better specs.
that's a rad looking phone. if it was waterproof......
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Ah, so you're take is that only comments that like it should be allowed? .
I think the specs are solid ('specially that camera!) but the device looks incredibly ugly and would never sell.
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who knows what'll sell and what won't? For example pathetic devices like the iPad 3 is no different than the previous 2 as well as the iPhone 4S which is marginally different than the iPhone 4 yet they're selling like hot cakes.
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Nice phone, but prefeer htc design =)
Weird as hell... Don't sign me up for this... I am looking at HTC Side...
i believe this will be for the camera centric customers, and i also heard they will have lesser speced cameras but with a great design that is more for the average buyer. this prob wont be a lumia, it will get a different name.
Fake. I think Windows Phone should improve the software of the camera. Lumia Nokia 800 has a great sensor, but the picture quality leaves much to be desired
I do not see this getting past any focus group. The only wow factor this phone would have is the camera. A Dual Core does not wow anyone. So we are trading mass market appeal by having such an unusual styling for a camera?
Look Nokia, you have your Lumia Series down pat. Stick with improving those. The tablet is the next thing to come.
I am very happy because I have a opportunity to review a really cool smartphone Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3. As you may know Gigabyte is most popular in computer world. They decided that they want bigger piece of pie in the mobile market so because of that they are working hard. And lately we can see better and better devices from Gigabyte GSmart. Stay here and see how good is Mika M3.
Design
I must admit that this device reminds me of several others devices. For example Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3 reminds me of Sony Xperia Z series. I must say also that I like this kind of design with flat surfaces. So in my opinion design is very elegant and cool and I think that most of you will like it. Talking about build quality the Mika M3 is completely made of plastic where the front side is black with small part of gray. So the back cover and edges are dark purple. About build construction there is one new thing because it has a key or button for taking photos. This is really smart move from Gigabyte. In overall the design is very cool and build quality is also high.
Display
They noticed that lately we can see that many new smartphones come with larger displays. But it is often not practical because of the size of the device. I see that many people would love to see smaller smartphones and because of that Gigabyte produced Mika M3 device which has screen with ideally size of 5 inch. This screen is IPS with HD resolution or to be precise it has a resolution of 720 x 1280 pixels. I can say that I am pleasantly surprised because display on Mika M3 is crystal clear. Believe me you will love it also because the screen is sharp and display is pleasing the eye. The only drawback is because it has no screen protection but I think for this price range there are only few devices with this kind of protection.
Performance
Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3 is mid range smartphone and it is based on Mediatek MT6582 chipset. This is quad core CPU at speed of 1.3 GHz and it has installed 1 GB of RAM with 8 GB for storage space. For storage you can update your space with microSD card up to 32 GB. For graphics operations we have Mali-400MP2 GPU. As you can see this is medium strong hardware which will be in 99.9% enough for every purpose. So you will be able to do anything you want including playing games. I have personally tried many apps and every opposition worked like a charm. So you don't need to worry about it and if you want you can see below screenshots from several benchmark tests.
Software
You may already noticed that every new smartphone and some older ones have installed or been updated to Android 4.4.2 Kitkat. So Gigabyte also follows the trend and logically Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3 comes out of box with Android 4.4.2 Kitkat. I noticed that operating system is partially customised but most is stock. The UI is very fast and fluid thanks to good optimisation. Until now I did not find any problems with OS.
Connectivity and GPS
As you may already know many Chinese devices or smartphones does not support frequency 900MHz which is very important for Europe. Because many mobile phone companies still use these frequencies in smaller places and other areas. So I can say again that Gigabyte has made a smart move because Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3 completely supports 3G network. It supports WCDMA 900/2100MHz. I have also tested the GPS with GPS test application and GPS worked as it should to work with out any help. So you don't need to do any modifications for the GPS. I am telling you this because many Chinese phones have problems with GPS but not this one.
Camera
In this price range photo quality is mostly poor. So to be honest I did not expect something special from GSmart Mika M3. But I was wrong because photo quality is really good, photos are sharp enough and colours are almost natural. I can say that I'm pleasantly surprised with Mika M3. As technical information it has 13 megapixel main camera with led flash. It has all standard functions like geo-tagging, touch focus and face detection. Also you can see below photo examples made by this device.
Battery
Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3 has Li on battery with capacity of 1900mAh according to the manufacturer. After testing I can say that with above average use it gives autonomy of one and half day. For this kind of device it is pretty good.
Pricing and conclusion
I can say that I am pleasantly surprised with Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3. Because it is very hard to find good quality smartphone in this price range. It has high build quality, elegant design and excellent screen. But I am also surprised with good quality camera and strong battery. So I think if you decide to buy this device you will be very happy with it. Price is about $190 and for more information you can visit official website.
I am not sure if it will be a good buy and for how much? Still confused at the right price to pay for it. Any help, I just love the dark blue color...
@LineArc I checked from sources, Price may vary in between 160-200 USD, For Now the device is OUT OF STOCK
an Elephone P9000 user here. in term of hardware vs selling price, no doubt it is value for $$. but this Elephone company couldnt get the hardware works. great hardware with S*h*i*t software/rom. i will say this is my 1st and last Elephone product. Better look at other cheap china brands like MI or Oppo.
From a person that has a dark blue on his hands, I've got to say it is a very unique piece of hardware. I really like the way it feels on the hand, and even with a bigger screen than my old IUNI U2 4.7'' I have a much more confortable touch with it.
Also, the amazing tickness of it make him a wonderfully attractive phone.
Now, regarding hardware,
Camera 13MP could be better, but that would involve a bigger one. This one takes good quality pictures with a very good flash. Single one, but very powerfull.
The CPU is very good. You can see in most of site reviews everyone complaining about the bad deca-core because the 2 high speed cpu shutdown when it get's to acertain CPU threshold.
In my oppinion, that if great.
I use it heavily with all sort of app's, and I just feel it a little warm, nothing more. More, I don't even feel a difference on the speed, because it performs amazingly smooth.
Comparing to other mobiles, that are indeed very fast (2.4GHz+) where you can't even touch the mobile because it's very hot.
Please note that I have this mobile for only a couple of weeks, but as a heavy user, I test it the most of my capabilities, and till now I rather preffer it over many available phones.
One last note, regarding the software problems that @ckleon said, can you please be more specific, so that I can also check them in mine?
lotryf said:
From a person that has a dark blue on his hands, I've got to say it is a very unique piece of hardware. I really like the way it feels on the hand, and even with a bigger screen than my old IUNI U2 4.7'' I have a much more confortable touch with it.
Also, the amazing tickness of it make him a wonderfully attractive phone.
Now, regarding hardware,
Camera 13MP could be better, but that would involve a bigger one. This one takes good quality pictures with a very good flash. Single one, but very powerfull.
The CPU is very good. You can see in most of site reviews everyone complaining about the bad deca-core because the 2 high speed cpu shutdown when it get's to acertain CPU threshold.
In my oppinion, that if great.
I use it heavily with all sort of app's, and I just feel it a little warm, nothing more. More, I don't even feel a difference on the speed, because it performs amazingly smooth.
Comparing to other mobiles, that are indeed very fast (2.4GHz+) where you can't even touch the mobile because it's very hot.
Please note that I have this mobile for only a couple of weeks, but as a heavy user, I test it the most of my capabilities, and till now I rather preffer it over many available phones.
One last note, regarding the software problems that @ckleon said, can you please be more specific, so that I can also check them in mine?
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I can confirm this. Got mine yesterday.
The ONLY negative points are: touchscreen-sensor is a little too weak and the brightness could be brighter Maybe in future we get new roms which could soulve this problem! LineageOS would be perfect imo.
So, I wanted to put a word in for Vernee, and specifically for this phone.
I looked around for a forum and didn't find one.
This is a wonderful budget phone, absolutely. A sleeper.
At $180 roughly, it's fantastic.
Everything about it IS a step down from Flagship but the package it delivers punches well above it's class.
This is just a set of observations to help those thinking about digging around the lower priced Chinese offerings.
I'll try and give a comparative review.
The phone is just a few millimeters taller than the OnePlus 5T, a few shorter than the Galaxy 8+ and roughly the same width as the HTC U11.
The screen is 18:9 and tinted in such a way that the screen appears to take up the entire front surface before you fire it up.
Although I have seen reviews that say it is a metal phone, it is not. The back is a very solid form of plastic, treated and painted to look like metal.
Don't get me wrong; it's not a bad look at all. The deep blue looks radiant in the sunlight and the soft texture of it feels wonderful in the hand.
The phone is as heavy as the Mate 9 but feels perfectly weighted. It really feels great to hold and they've curved the back in such a way that it feels far slimmer than it is - which at 9.8mm, it is not.
When you turn the screen on, you notice that Vernee has done a great job with slimming the bezels, and the glass, though not Gorilla glass has a nice, slick feel to it.
It's built to a very high standard; compelling when you think they just begun to make phones in 2016.
The P23 mediatek chip is perfectly adequate for everyday use - I'd say think Qualcomm 820/821 (Lg G4).
There are a few stutters and it's not as fluid as say the OnePlus 5T but it IS quick and the management of it's 4Gbs of ROM keeps lots of apps on tap.
And now, the killer. They've stuffed a huge battery in there. They say it's a 6000 but My Device reads it at 4000.
Any which way, the battery is a revelation. On, and on, and on - It will easily give you 2 days of normal use, all in a relatively tight package - but I'm not like that. I am on it ALL DAY doing everything, with everything on from 08:00 and still, as I come to charge at 23:00 there's 15% in it.
Astonishing.
And I think that's where this phone hits its home run.
It looks good, it feels good, it runs well - you'd be hard pressed to be embarrassed laying it on the table beside the absolute big guns - and you could have five of them for the price.
It's an Astonishing feat.
Think 4 by 4 Beemer or Merc in the bush against the original Toyota Prado.
But unlike a bear-bones interior, you have leather seats, good stereo, manual sun-roof and proper differentials.
You know what I'm talking about.
The Vernee X is not rugged but it's handsome, sure footed, tireless and a joy to carry around.
It will take you dancing all night long, and that, at least, in Miyake.
Yes. There is a catch. The camera.
It's not bad but you'll want great light all the time. And don't try that blurred shallow focus thing, it's not good.
Still there pictures are adequate sometimes and very good at other.
This phone has climbed into my pocket and the company, won my heart and I can't wait to see what Vernee has for us this year and next.
The Doogees, Elephones...are on notice.
So are, in another few years I think, Samsung et.al.
Still no one ROM for this model... Someone from the owners of this unit, could you make a full backup of the firmware and put it in the public domain.
room for vernee x 4gb ram / 64gb
Welcome, we hope that a friend will introduce a Vernee x 4gb / 64gb phone room
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Still no one ROM for this model... Someone from the owners of this unit, could you make a full backup of the firmware and put it in the public domain.
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some roms here. Ive not tested but some activity it seems
https://www.needrom.com/category/others/u-v-w-x-y-z/brands-v/vernee/x/
kolembo said:
So, I wanted to put a word in for Vernee, and specifically for this phone.
I looked around for a forum and didn't find one.
This is a wonderful budget phone, absolutely. A sleeper.
At $180 roughly, it's fantastic.
Everything about it IS a step down from Flagship but the package it delivers punches well above it's class.
This is just a set of observations to help those thinking about digging around the lower priced Chinese offerings.
I'll try and give a comparative review.
The phone is just a few millimeters taller than the OnePlus 5T, a few shorter than the Galaxy 8+ and roughly the same width as the HTC U11.
The screen is 18:9 and tinted in such a way that the screen appears to take up the entire front surface before you fire it up.
Although I have seen reviews that say it is a metal phone, it is not. The back is a very solid form of plastic, treated and painted to look like metal.
Don't get me wrong; it's not a bad look at all. The deep blue looks radiant in the sunlight and the soft texture of it feels wonderful in the hand.
The phone is as heavy as the Mate 9 but feels perfectly weighted. It really feels great to hold and they've curved the back in such a way that it feels far slimmer than it is - which at 9.8mm, it is not.
When you turn the screen on, you notice that Vernee has done a great job with slimming the bezels, and the glass, though not Gorilla glass has a nice, slick feel to it.
It's built to a very high standard; compelling when you think they just begun to make phones in 2016.
The P23 mediatek chip is perfectly adequate for everyday use - I'd say think Qualcomm 820/821 (Lg G4).
There are a few stutters and it's not as fluid as say the OnePlus 5T but it IS quick and the management of it's 4Gbs of ROM keeps lots of apps on tap.
And now, the killer. They've stuffed a huge battery in there. They say it's a 6000 but My Device reads it at 4000.
Any which way, the battery is a revelation. On, and on, and on - It will easily give you 2 days of normal use, all in a relatively tight package - but I'm not like that. I am on it ALL DAY doing everything, with everything on from 08:00 and still, as I come to charge at 23:00 there's 15% in it.
Astonishing.
And I think that's where this phone hits its home run.
It looks good, it feels good, it runs well - you'd be hard pressed to be embarrassed laying it on the table beside the absolute big guns - and you could have five of them for the price.
It's an Astonishing feat.
Think 4 by 4 Beemer or Merc in the bush against the original Toyota Prado.
But unlike a bear-bones interior, you have leather seats, good stereo, manual sun-roof and proper differentials.
You know what I'm talking about.
The Vernee X is not rugged but it's handsome, sure footed, tireless and a joy to carry around.
It will take you dancing all night long, and that, at least, in Miyake.
Yes. There is a catch. The camera.
It's not bad but you'll want great light all the time. And don't try that blurred shallow focus thing, it's not good.
Still there pictures are adequate sometimes and very good at other.
This phone has climbed into my pocket and the company, won my heart and I can't wait to see what Vernee has for us this year and next.
The Doogees, Elephones...are on notice.
So are, in another few years I think, Samsung et.al.
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Im having same phone, camera is useless much better choice is ulefone power 3 or 3s, they have same hardware with much better camera.
I think vernee have problem with drivers, i have tryed to fix it but im not developer if you have any idea for new firmware or update for this camera problem please let me know.
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Dino
After using the phone for a couple of months;
It is slow. The mediatek chip is nowhere near flagship level and it shows.
And the camera is badly optimised - the photos are ok in very good light.
The best thing about this phone is it's amusing battery life.
The screen is also, surprisingly, very good.
In all other respects you must be willing to compromise.
I just got this phone and for the price, you cant beat it. But you are right the chipset is not as good as the snapdragon and thats the major difference here. I dont use the camera so it doesnt bother me.
But great value nevertheless.
kolembo said:
After using the phone for a couple of months;
It is slow. The mediatek chip is nowhere near flagship level and it shows.
And the camera is badly optimised - the photos are ok in very good light.
The best thing about this phone is it's amusing battery life.
The screen is also, surprisingly, very good.
In all other respects you must be willing to compromise.
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Ulefone Power 3 or 3s has better camera optimisation, hardware is the same, so it is better choice in my opinion...
Yes, I think Verne is still too young to optimise Android for it's phones.
It's hardware is very good though - the X is very strong, has a beautiful screen and an unbeatable battery.
It has to do more work getting it's software lined up to it's hardware.
Having used this phone for a year, it's biggest problem is software.
The phone feels sluggish and jittery.
The battery remains excellent. On experimentation, the speed increases vastly when I switch: settings>duraspeed>off
with disable animation to 0 in devolper settings also same lag ?
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i will try aslo root the phone later when i have my order , presumably same way as my thread Root vernee M5 page 7
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