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Can we use this to pay for goods in the UK?
if so, what software do we need on the phone. There's a few shops in my town that have a contactless payment machine so I'm wanting to try it out.
any ideas?
Also, can these be used to scan and copy a proximity card for use at work to let me in doors?
I am one of the worst for forgetting my card each day so having my ID on my phone would be useful!
mmace said:
Also, can these be used to scan and copy a proximity card for use at work to let me in doors?
I am one of the worst for forgetting my card each day so having my ID on my phone would be useful!
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this would be fabulous if we could get it to work!
winwiz said:
this would be fabulous if we could get it to work!
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I think Android's implementation of NFC is still missing tag emulation mode, unfortunately.
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I think Android's implementation of NFC is still missing tag emulation mode, unfortunately.
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what if I had access to the security system and any codes etc, would that help?
mmace said:
what if I had access to the security system and any codes etc, would that help?
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I don't think so. Basically Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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I don't think so. Basically Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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ah, cheers
any way we can make payments then like they can in the US?
Ive got it working in the UK. I flashed the app from here and factory reset, then opened Google wallet with a non-Apps Google account, added a new prepaid card and its all working, paid for a coffee at starbucks this morning in London. Only problem I have now is how to top up my prepaid card. Only US cards are supported.
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My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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juniorbattle said:
My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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That would be ballistic, bumbastic, amazing
juniorbattle said:
My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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I doubt it, because
Chirality said:
Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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The simplest way would be to super-glue your Oyster card to the back of the phone. But that would impair other NFC uses.
With Visa and Mastercard support we are meant to get Google Wallet in early 2012. Source
I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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Maybe I'm strange but I'm quite looking forward to that
gambiting said:
I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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They would probably think you hacked the payment system or something if you used your phone.
omg call the police. hax0r!
Anyone link it with their Barclay card, or is that even possible?
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Anyone link it with their Barclay card, or is that even possible?
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I've been trying.
The registration page in My Barclaycard asks for phone number and SIM serial number. It expects a SIM serial number that is 19 digits. The number written on my T-Mobile SIM is 12 digits. I contacted T-Mobile and they gave me my full serial number - 20 digits. So now it is too long. The best they could suggest was dropping the last zero. It didn't work. So I still can't link my Barclaycard to a contactless account.
Even if I managed to do any of this, I still wouldn't have the necessary app that comes pre-installed on the Samsung Tocco Quick Tap from Orange. So I wouldn't be able to do anything with the account. Maybe it is possible to port the app from that phone onto the Nexus.
Are all Orange SIM numbers 19 digits? I guess the Barclaycard/Orange Quick Tap thing really does only work with Orange.
Ok, so received an email from the android bug tracker saying that it's going to get resolved in the next software update \o/
It is going to take off here in the UK - but I think I saw it on BBC Click that it will reach widespread use by 2014
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It is going to take off here in the UK - but I think I saw it on BBC Click that it will reach widespread use by 2014
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I believe the government want it at the very least commonplace throughout London ready for the 2012 Olympics. But I don't have a link for where I read that.
hello, i own a galaxy nexus GSM and i am on the australian carrier Virgin Mobile, i followed all the instructions to install wallet and set it up but it still comes up with a unsupported carrier popup, is there an issue? cheers.
I had some success getting it onto my phone. Here's what I did (Also note, I'll use Wallet Online when referring to the checkout system used to pay for stuff on the Play Store, and Google Wallet when referring to the mobile phone app)
Flashed the factory image of 4.1.1 (with Google Wallet support)
Rooted (Using the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit) and installed MarketEnabler and Titanium Backup
Unfroze / Defrosted Google Wallet in TB
Set ME to spoof T-Mobile (US)
Installed the updated version of Google Wallet
Before that (about two years ago now) I added my Visa Debit card to Wallet Online and have paid for lots of marketplace items.
When I was able to run Google Wallet, I added the debit card I had through Wallet Online. It asked me for a mailing address inside the US. I used my parents in-laws address (I don't think Google sends you anything, it seems to be for verification purposes) and the card added successfully.
Tonight I went to K-Mart and tried to buy a photo frame ($29 worth). It told me the card was declined and I needed to see the card issuer, so unless I'm doing something wrong, Google Wallet is a no-go when you add your own (Visa) cards.
I suggest trying the above to get Google Wallet on your phone in the first place, then (if you have the time) fiddle around with some settings, such as turning off root (in the Superuser app), unspoofing your mobile (something I haven't done yet, but I doubt it'll make a difference), adding a different type of card (such as a credit and not a debit card, or a card from MasterCard etc.) and even trying the Google Prepaid card (I have $10 on it, but I don't know if it'll work, as I only just tapped the icon to set it up)
I would really love to see this rolled out officially to other countries and not just the US. If Visa are now on board, surely Google should be able to flick a switch on their end (if it's that easy) and let us buy stuff with our phones?
Also if after you set it to T-Mobile (US) you notice the rom you have hasn't got Google Wallet, you can just search for it in the Play store
Adding your debit card in that way wont work because the US address wont match the one Visa has for you ... I just used the Google Prepaid card up at coles and it worked fine, they looked at me strange though
Google wallet is somewhat pointless in Australia still as you can only use prepaid cards to add funds to use the NFC feature, I stick with my debit card.
well i got it to work guys! also i was talking about the latest verison of google wallet, 1.5, and now i have it working and linked to my debit card. i installed the modified version in the android development forums a few hoours ago, and works fine! yes please use market enabler because it may require you to use the t-mobile server durring activation. cheers! thanks for the helpguys!
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well i got it to work guys! also i was talking about the latest verison of google wallet, 1.5, and now i have it working and linked to my debit card. i installed the modified version in the android development forums a few hoours ago, and works fine! yes please use market enabler because it may require you to use the t-mobile server durring activation. cheers! thanks for the helpguys!
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Glad to hear you had some success. Can I ask if you've tried to pay for something yet? Your post says it works fine when linked to your debit card, but that could mean the app is working fine, or you can pay for stuff. Also, can we get a link to the development thread you referred to?
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Also if after you set it to T-Mobile (US) you notice the rom you have hasn't got Google Wallet, you can just search for it in the Play store
Adding your debit card in that way wont work because the US address wont match the one Visa has for you ... I just used the Google Prepaid card up at coles and it worked fine, they looked at me strange though
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At first I wondered about that, because purchases are actually done through a virtual MasterCard (go into the Google Wallet app, edit an existing card and look at the "Via" field. Hit the ? to read more about it) but I guess if the charges are done via Wallet Online, then yeah they would cross-reference your details.
All Google has to do (as far as I can see) is just change the UI on their form to allow non-US locations. There must be some international card issuer BS to go through though, even though I can successfully buy anything I want online using PayPal or by entering in my card details directly.
I worded that wrong, adding your card is possible but when buying something it will fail ... that is because of the AVS that checks the cardholders billing address so unless it is a US card you're buggered
He might be refering to this thread
I hate to say it but hopefully iPhone will Have NFC to help get it off the ground... I really wouldnt mind only having to carry my phone with me
yes it works, i am curently in the city testing it out, i think the issue is that either my debit card details are wrong or there is an issue with my actual bank, i still need to resolve, attemtped at startbuks swanston st melb and mcdonalds melbourne central shoping centre, whenever i tried it, it either declined it or it wont go through, any ideas? cheers.
the latest 1.5 version of google wallet allows us to use our own decit and credit cards. cheers.
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yes it works, i am curently in the city testing it out, i think the issue is that either my debit card details are wrong or there is an issue with my actual bank, i still need to resolve, attemtped at startbuks swanston st melb and mcdonalds melbourne central shoping centre, whenever i tried it, it either declined it or it wont go through, any ideas? cheers.
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make up your mind... first you say it works and then you say it doesn't.... Yes you can add your credit/debit card but no it will not work when you goto buy something, like i've already said
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I worded that wrong, adding your card is possible but when buying something it will fail ... that is because of the AVS that checks the cardholders billing address so unless it is a US card you're buggered
He might be refering to this thread
I hate to say it but hopefully iPhone will Have NFC to help get it off the ground... I really wouldnt mind only having to carry my phone with me
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Interesting about the AVS system. What I wonder is, could someone use an address like 123 Fake Street, Melbourne, 30010 (note the additional 0 at the end) and hope that the AVS system matches the first four numbers, doesn't find anything for 30010 and ignores the final zero in the post code, thinking it's just useless extra data? That'd satisfy the AVS and meet the 5 digit zip code requirement for adding a card, if AVS only matches numerical data
Of course, I'm just hypothesizing here, and am not suggesting anyone does this, as it could be seen as exposing a weakness in AVS and you could have all sorts of people running your way.
Google wallet is not available for your device or mobile network with latest google wallet app direct from the play store on stock jellybean 4.1.1 yakju an jellybro cm10 custom rom on both Telstra an Vodafone networks with my unlocked gsm galaxy nexus, go figure I even tried market enabler lol, more importantly when will Australian galaxy nexus users be able to purchase songs from google music like US users.
I've tried various ways on my SGS3 (Telstra) and nothing has worked so far. AVS is definitely playing a role. I've got a US Unlocked virtual credit card, but not even that passes AVS checks even though one is issued with a US address when you get the card. Tried this with Hulu Plus and they're probably the most anal when it comes to AVS. Anyway, found a workaround to that problem, but I digress.
Another thing I reckon is that "Google" is not set up on Australian PayPass terminals as a registered merchant, hence why even the prepaid Google card with $10 fails. As with many, I see no reason why we cannot use Google Wallet [yet] down under. Oh well, my conventional debit/credit chipped cards work fast and well, albeit without the "whoah!" factor if I used my phone.
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I've tried various ways on my SGS3 (Telstra) and nothing has worked so far. AVS is definitely playing a role. I've got a US Unlocked virtual credit card, but not even that passes AVS checks even though one is issued with a US address when you get the card. Tried this with Hulu Plus and they're probably the most anal when it comes to AVS. Anyway, found a workaround to that problem, but I digress.
Another thing I reckon is that "Google" is not set up on Australian PayPass terminals as a registered merchant, hence why even the prepaid Google card with $10 fails. As with many, I see no reason why we cannot use Google Wallet [yet] down under. Oh well, my conventional debit/credit chipped cards work fast and well, albeit without the "whoah!" factor if I used my phone.
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I'm wondering if Google is denying all foreign transactions for external cards using Google Wallet (but allowing the prepaid card), making it a combination of AVS and Wallet. Strange that they're denying one card but not another..
However your comment about the prepaid card failing is incorrect. On the way home the other night my wife and I stopped in at our local (rural) McDonalds and purchased two coffees. I paid for the lot using the $10 prepaid card and it worked fine. Only thing was, the lady behind the register had to run and grab a pen, as most "credit" transactions under $100 are usually PINned or PINless and rarely signed. But that's just me, you may be having difficulties for another reason.
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However your comment about the prepaid card failing is incorrect. On the way home the other night my wife and I stopped in at our local (rural) McDonalds and purchased two coffees. I paid for the lot using the $10 prepaid card and it worked fine. Only thing was, the lady behind the register had to run and grab a pen, as most "credit" transactions under $100 are usually PINned or PINless and rarely signed. But that's just me, you may be having difficulties for another reason.
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You're correct. I failed to mention that I've only tried this at my local 7 Eleven. From what I've read, those who have reported it worked [more often than not], used it at McDonalds. Good on you though; I'd love to see it in action!
Just received an email from softcard that it will stop service from 3/31 because it's aquired by google. But google wallet is not supported by Note 3, now what...?
Swipe your card like a normal human being?
By the way, the Google Wallet app works just fine. I get notifications about half a second after I use my card, every time. Life goes on without tap & pay.
Swipe a card!
Heavens to Betsey!!!
Lol.
Pp.
Swipe your card like a normal human being?
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Swipe a card!
Heavens to Betsey!!!
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You guys are kind of jerks.
"I bought a phone that had feature X. Now feature X doesn't work. How do I get something equivalent?" Is perfectly valid. Just because you swipe your cards like damn savages doesn't mean we all choose to live that way.
X is the last feature I'd look for, I just want to have quality call and messaging features when choosing a phone.
Hope you didn't miss out on your corn nuts and mountain dew because of X feature not working!
Pp. Lol
God damn there is some whiny little *****es in the Note 3 community.
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Google Wallet works for me. I assume you heard it didn't work with the T-Mobile Note 3. That's because T-Mobile had originally decided to go with SoftCard and blocked Wallet. The email I got had a link to download Wallet.
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Google Wallet works for me. I assume you heard it didn't work with the T-Mobile Note 3. That's because T-Mobile had originally decided to go with SoftCard and blocked Wallet. The email I got had a link to download Wallet.
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Google Wallet has always worked on the TMO Note 3. It was the Tap-to-pay functionality that was missing in Google Wallet.
I hope it is working in the new Lollipop update that's in OTA right now. Otherwise it'll be a huge disappointment (NOT like I can't swipe a card, but because I want everything to work on my phone).
I called Wallet support 1-855-492-5538 and their csr stated tap and pay "will definitely work as long as software is up to date." Perhaps they activated it with the new lollipop release.
I have to retract what I posted last night about Google Wallet. Last night a CSR stated it would work "with the latest software". I even got an email to that effect. It doesn't. So I called Wallet this am and, after a long time waiting for them to "research", I was told Tap and Pay will NOT work with T-Mobile Note 3. I asked why it worked for SoftCard and received no logical response. So basically, we're SOL with Tap & Pay on Google Wallet.
tap and pay on lollypop
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I have to retract what I posted last night about Google Wallet. Last night a CSR stated it would work "with the latest software". I even got an email to that effect. It doesn't. So I called Wallet this am and, after a long time waiting for them to "research", I was told Tap and Pay will NOT work with T-Mobile Note 3. I asked why it worked for SoftCard and received no logical response. So basically, we're SOL with Tap & Pay on Google Wallet.
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Just got lollypop, still no tap and pay. Very disappointed. I don't buy that wallet can't work on the note 3. Softcard works and google purchased (and rightfully killed) them. So use how softcard worked with nfc to to make wallet work with tap and pay. The phone will do it, its the software that won't. give us a fix or a viable replacement for softcard. As to the whiners that say just swipe a card, this is a technology I want to support and is one reason I have a smart phone. You guys miss the point completely.
I agree, scottslc. I'd gotten used to using tap and pay. One thing I enjoyed was not having to actually carry credit cards. And, as some states are testing, you may soon have digital drivers licenses. For the Note 3 (and a couple of others) Samsung chose a different NFC chip, which is why SoftCard required the secure sim. Like you, I'm hoping Google will adapt their technology. If not, I might have to seriously consider another phone.
Has anyone actually activated their cards on Samsung pay? I heard you get a wireless charger or case if you do.
None of my cards work. Maybe they will expand support now that it's official. That would be awesome if they did give something like that away.
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None of my cards work. Maybe they will expand support now that it's official. That would be awesome if they did give something like that away.
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According to this they are giving away a charger or case
http://www.samsung.com/us/samsung-pay/
I registered my Bank of America card and my wireless charger is in the mail on the way to me for FREE!!!
Mine wont work without the update, i havent recieved any updates since ive had this i think there were 2 updates so far
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I was able to add my Citibank Debit Card. I tried it twice a couple times at the Walmart self checkout. It automatically popped up and asked me for me for my PIN number, so I punched it in. However, both times it automatically declined my purchase. So I just let it scan the EMW Chip on my card, punched in my PIN, and it went through flawlessly.
I love this phone so far! Really looking forward to when I can root it
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I was able to add my Citibank Debit Card. I tried it twice a couple times at the Walmart self checkout. It automatically popped up and asked me for me for my PIN number, so I punched it in. However, both times it automatically declined my purchase. So I just let it scan the EMW Chip on my card, punched in my PIN, and it went through flawlessly.
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I was told by Samsung support that if your card fails to register the first time, use the retry button on the pay screen. Apparently Samsung pay will use a different method the second time. YMMV.
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Are there are any other Visible users on here? Visible is owned and operated by Verizon (it's not a MVNO). They are offering unlimited unthrottled data/talk/text/hotspot for $40/month without contract. I switched about 10 days ago. Speedtests are as high as 103Mbps! Got the deal to get the S9 for $408-$200 MasterCard they'll send in 6 weeks to equal $208. Service is exceptional and the S9 is factory unlocked. WiFi calling and Visual Voicemail work too. If anyone is interested, you can input code wQ8bD at checkout to get your first bill for only $20.
Visible and VPN
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Are there are any other Visible users on here?
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I'm trying the service, but I find that Visible seems to prevent the use of a VPN. (I use Private Internet Access.) T-Mobile doesn't have a problem with VPN so I'm not sure why Verizon's Visible does.
I'm using NordVPN with my S9 without issue. What VPN are you using?
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I'm trying the service, but I find that Visible seems to prevent the use of a VPN. (I use Private Internet Access.) T-Mobile doesn't have a problem with VPN so I'm not sure why Verizon's Visible does.
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I am looking to go with Visible, but need the VPN. I too have PIA. Are you using the PIA app or the OpenVPN app on your phone?
Tool Belt said:
Are you using the PIA app or the OpenVPN app on your phone?
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I have the PIA apk from the Google Play store. The Visible apk is the beta version, also from the Play store. I rebooted the phone after several package updates were delivered by Google this afternoon. And now PIA (updated 22 May) and Visible (updated 12 July) seem to be working together. So yeah, that's good news. Give Visible a try.
If you need a code mine is: wNmt8 (Full disclosure: Both you and I get a discount if you use that code. I don't have any relationship with Verizon, aside from just the cell service.)
So I learned Visible is selling the ZTE R2 phone temporarily for ONLY $19 ($20.52 shipped) and I asked Customer Support if I could buy one for a backup phone since they don't offer insurance. The rep said if I create a new account and buy the phone but don't activate the SIM I won't ever be charged for service and I'll have a spare phone for $20 so that's what I did. It will be interesting to play with. If you would like to get your first bill for $20 my referral code is wQ8bD
I am using it on an S9 and if you understand it ONLY works on Verizon and there is no roaming you will do fine.
As an aside, I am trying to change the SIM Pin and require it at boot as an additional way to secure the phone. Visible will not, or cannot provide the default SIM Pin. Anyone know what it is?
I am going to give them a shot. I will be moving my GF from Meto. Metro is getting on my nerves. We cant swap the sim without them throwing a fit. Also, the store employes state we need to pay them 10 to swap the IMEI BS if you ask me. But Visible will let me turn in my OLD iPhone 5C to get credit for that free ZTE phone they are passing out. Looks like they will give you the phone no matter what. Will report back on how good the services are in Charlotte NC. I have Verizon should be a good comparison.
Visible works well in Central and Northern WI with the exception of Marathon County which has no native Verizon towers.
it seems that its one of the myriad of the MVNOs out there.
Visible pin might be 1212
I'm new here and on a phone, I could t find how to reply...
For the person who asked about the pin for the sim, try 1212, that's the account pin (found on reddit)
And I wanted to ask the person who was able to root this device, how he did it? I got the g960u1 from visible last Wednesday, and I've been trying to root it or at least get twrp, with no success... I would love any help in this matter, thanks in advance
Thanks, can anyone try 1212 on there phone? I only have one more try before the phone locks and I need a new SIM from Visible. That means at least 24 hours without a phone.
A user on Reddit tried 1212 and it did not work.
Can anyone try 1111?
It is 1111, confirmed
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I'm new here and on a phone, I could t find how to reply...
For the person who asked about the pin for the sim, try 1212, that's the account pin (found on reddit)
And I wanted to ask the person who was able to root this device, how he did it? I got the g960u1 from visible last Wednesday, and I've been trying to root it or at least get twrp, with no success... I would love any help in this matter, thanks in advance
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