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[Q] TMO Galaxy S II vs Note II?

I have an S2, and considering moving to the Note 2 for the larger screen, quad-core, accepots 64gb SD, & other features etc. ... anybody have a reason why the note 2 would be an unwise move? I haven't checked what kind of custom ROMs are available for the Note 2 yet, but I've been a flash-a-holic on the S2 (now running "The Sith 2" ROM). The only downside I would imagine others saying, is that the larger screen is more of a pocket-full, maybe more clunky to use as phone, but that's not an issue for me.
ALSO, TMO only carries the 16gb version of the Note 2, but there are other models available, but i don't know if their interfaces with the tmo network will work as well as a tmo version.

I'd say it depends on how bad you want it. If you just want it to upgrade, I'd hold out. I went through the same dilemma and decided I'd wait. Mainly because of the strides kernel/ROM development have taken with our phone. Also, the GS4 is supposed to be released in March, which is rumored to have a 5" display.
Obviously the hardware speaks for itself, but from what I understand, especially with the TMO version, the software is clunky and just crappy I'm general on the note. No one seems to want to come out and say it, but the S-pen is a gimmick. Plain and simple. Obviously that can be changed with different ROMs and etc, but I'm curious how much dev attention the note is going to get. Especially with the nexus right around the corner, and as I said, the GS4 only 4-5 months away.

Our phone happens to support 64gb sd cards. I guess the major difference here would be if you want a phone or a phablet. I'm sure each are great/bad in their own ways, I guess you'll just have to read up on a few reviews

I want one, just too damn big for my pockets. Not to mention the sgs2 is way too big already for strapping on your arm and going for a jog. I can't imagine the note 2 on my arm.

Unless you are in a rush I would wait just because of the amount of rumored new phones that are coming out. Although if you are just looking for screen size I don't think any of the rumored phones will be as big as the Note II. One of the reasons I didn't like the Note II at least spec wise was because with a screen that big I would want it to be 1080p. Just my thoughts!

Thank you everybody for your replies. About two weeks ago I pulled the trigger on the TMO Note II and very happy with it.
I'm running this rom, the dev, ptmr3, has given great support and quick personal responses. I use the multi Window way more than I imagined. I'm a writer & the S-pen, gimmick or not, has been very handy at 3am when I need to jot a note in the dark.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634

sirdowski said:
I'd say it depends on how bad you want it. If you just want it to upgrade, I'd hold out. I went through the same dilemma and decided I'd wait. Mainly because of the strides kernel/ROM development have taken with our phone. Also, the GS4 is supposed to be released in March, which is rumored to have a 5" display.
Obviously the hardware speaks for itself, but from what I understand, especially with the TMO version, the software is clunky and just crappy I'm general on the note. No one seems to want to come out and say it, but the S-pen is a gimmick. Plain and simple. Obviously that can be changed with different ROMs and etc, but I'm curious how much dev attention the note is going to get. Especially with the nexus right around the corner, and as I said, the GS4 only 4-5 months away.
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If the gs4 has a 5inch display, I will not buy it.
The size of the gs2 is perfect. I can deal with the size of the gs3. Any bigger and I wont buy it. Phones are getting 2 big right now.

Well if they removed the T-mobile and Samsung branding they could probably fit a 5 inch screen within the the SGS2 form factor. Be more of an edge to edge display. Personally I like the look and feel of the S2 and Note vs the "natural" look the S3 and Note 2 are going for.
I would wait like others have stated. Just use your S2 until it disintegrates and see what the next round of devices is about and how the well developers are supporting it. The S2 specs will do you well for awhile unless your a serious mobile gamer. Then if the next round of devices aren't anything to write home about you can go and pick up yourself a Note 2 for a whole lot cheaper this spring/summer than it is now

This phone or the Galaxy S3?

It wont be long and my upgrade be here. So I was wondering if I should get this or the s3. I like this one and the fact that is a quad-core and samsung have the same build hardware on all of the note 2. But I also like all the gestures features from the s3

The note 2 has all the features of the s3 plus more. You cant go wrong with it
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You will need a bigger pocket though....
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I know I went to see the phone at the store it huge! I didnt know it have all the gestures features like the s3 because they were never announced. Like automatic calling somebody from text by just put your phone in the ear, Smartview. Screenshot by swiping your hand on the screen, etc etc. Those features really caught my eye. but wasnt sure if the note 2 have them. I guess I'll go with the note 2. Thanks guys

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I know I went to see the phone at the store it huge! I didnt know it have all the gestures features like the s3 because they were never announced. Like automatic calling somebody from text by just put your phone in the ear, Smartview. Screenshot by swiping your hand on the screen, etc etc. Those features really caught my eye. but wasnt sure if the note 2 have them. I guess I'll go with the note 2. Thanks guys
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Ill tell you what. after using it my s3 feels tiny . almost iphone 4 tiny ........ Btw get the note Trust me i have both

I hate to stir the pot, and I know that it hasnt been talked about yet, but if your upgrade is not here yet and u have some time to wait I would wait for the Galaxy S 4. Now wait! Let me explain! I am currently the very proud owner of the Note 2 with T mobile. This is the best phone on the market, with all of the great Hardware with excellent software to match. I mean the innovation and true attention to detail is unmatched. But I have read some rumors, yeah rumors, that the S4 will be a beast also in a smaller form. I love the huge screen of the Note 2, but you are trying to choose between the Note 2 and S3 so I take that to mean that you are on the fence and the extra screen size really isn't that important. Maybe the power is what u are seeking. Word on the street is that the S4 will bring in new tech, edge to edge screen, quad core, 1080p screen, 2gb ram, new software features, and new design. These things are not outside of the realm of reality and as we can all see Samsung is on a roll. I think this year they found their groove, and they can only get better from here. They are suppossed to announce this sometime end of January and into February. I say all this to say, if u are thinking Note 2 vs. S3. Don't do it as the S3 is so last year. The note 2 is basically the precursor to what we can expect for 2013. Think more like Note 2 vs. S4
Written from my Beast T Mobile Note 2

Also not that its much different but the S3 will NOT be getting LTE on tmobile from what I've heard and the Note will get LTE. Now as far as the Nexus 4, the biggest issue is that it's made by LG Booooo!

Sold my s3 for this phone. No regrets.
From the Best: Note 2

Yeah that is a dissapointed for me too Nexus 4 from LG gosh. I had the G2X and LG support sucks. Really guys I am a little nervous I have the S2 but it have a lot of problems with the noise reduction where other people hears an echo. And if you flash aosp rom or miui they say you sound like underwater and there is not a fix really. I really like how samsung did with their TW but I dont want another samsung and is going to have the same problem as my s2 with call quality. But The s3 and the note2 are really good phones!! The S4 announced in Jan or Feb? The s2 and s3 were announced late of year. I think its too soon for them to release the S4 and by the time i think it will I will have another upgrade lol. The big screen doesnt bother me. When I got my S2 it was big and at first it was wow. But then if I play with another phone like the Amaze It feels weird because of all the small icons. lol

gypsy214 said:
It wont be long and my upgrade be here. So I was wondering if I should get this or the s3. I like this one and the fact that is a quad-core and samsung have the same build hardware on all of the note 2. But I also like all the gestures features from the s3
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The Note 2 is a different level then the S3, has all the same features and more, and has a much better processor then the S3. It's just about whether the screen size is too big for you.
And I wouldn't worry about waiting for the S4 or Note 3. The S4 might be announced at MWC but I don't think that will happen so soon and the Note won't have a sequel till at least Oct-Nov of next year. Then it'll take at least 2-4 months before the first US carriers get them. So the Note 2 will be king of the hill for quite some time, barring HTC's Dlx when it comes out.
noted for future reference on my Note 2

Either you have been living under a rock, or... who knows. This video will answer your questions, and pretty much make up your mind for you. It's long, but thorough.
Colfustion's Review of the Samsung Galaxy Note 2
And to the bloke who recommended waiting for the S 4... just stop. Recommending non existent hardware just makes you sound silly. It will have a processor similar to the Note 2, a smaller screen, no S-Pen... etc. Not a very good comparison.

I've got both.. and honestly can't make a decision - have to sell one - need the cash.
GOing back to the S3 from the Note, it feels positively TINY...
but, the Note really does feel big; and I've got pretty big hands... whether its too big or not, I guess its partly personal choice and partly ease of use - I don't think I can honestly say that the Note 2 is always easy to operate with a single hand -
Also, to be honest, the alternate rom scene, at least for the T-Mobile Note 2, is pretty limited - I'm not sure if there'll be any "original" android development for it as I guess to make use of the S-pen etc, a vanilla android rom just wouldn't have the features (I'm only guessing here). Most of the rom development would be those "de-bloated/de-odexed/zip aligned" versions of stock TouchWiz rom which claim to mysteriously give longer battery life. I'm currently on the Jedi Rom on my Note 2 and not really sure how different it is to the stock rom.
On my S3, I've got Task's Rom, and it truly made a huge difference to the battery life - to the point I'm comfortable returning to the standard Samsung battery form the extended Hyperion 4200 mAH one I had bough due to the horrible battery life the S3 has (on cellular internet) when on the stock rom - with Task's rom, there is a marked, appreciable improvement in battery life.
Right, coming back, I still can't figure out which one to keep and which one to sell - I'm pretty sure, whichever decision I take, I'll regret it cos both the S3 and Note 2 are really and truly excellent products!!!.

RizSher said:
I've got both.. and honestly can't make a decision - have to sell one - need the cash.
GOing back to the S3 from the Note, it feels positively TINY...
but, the Note really does feel too big. and I've got pretty big hands.
Also, to be honest, the alternate rom scene, at least for the T-Mobile Note 2, is pretty limited - I'm not sure if there'll be any "original" android development for it as I guess to make use of the S-pen etc, a vanilla android rom just wouldn't have the features (I'm only guessing here). Most of the rom development would be those "de-bloated/de-odexed/zip aligned" versions of stock TouchWiz rom which claim to mysteriously give longer battery life. I'm currently on the Jedi Rom on my Note 2 and not really sure how different it is to the stock rom.
On my S3, I've got Task's Rom, and it truly made a huge difference to the battery life - to the point I'm comfortable returning to the standard Samsung battery form the extended Hyperion 4200 mAH battery I had bough due to the horrible battery life the S3 has (on cellular internet) - with Task's rom, there is a marked, appreciable improvement in battery life.
Right, coming back, I still can't figure out which one to keep and which one to sell - I'm pretty sure, whichever decision I take, I'll regret it cos both the S3 and Note 2 are really and truly excellent products!!!.
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The phone has been out for less than a month in the US. I think the ROMs will come, in time. Plus, the battery in the Note 2 is amazing... ever try running the battery down to 5% on purpose? It's actually harder than I thought it would be! That's the beauty of the Note 2; the battery is big enough, by itself, that minimal changes are needed to constantly see 24+ hours on one charge. I have had both the S3 and now the Note 2, and I would never recommend an S3 over the Note. The S-Pen alone is > any wizbang S3 thing out there!

mdt73 said:
The phone has been out for less than a month in the US. I think the ROMs will come, in time. Plus, the battery in the Note 2 is amazing... ever try running the battery down to 5% on purpose? It's actually harder than I thought it would be! That's the beauty of the Note 2; the battery is big enough, by itself, that minimal changes are needed to constantly see 24+ hours on one charge. I have had both the S3 and now the Note 2, and I would never recommend an S3 over the Note. The S-Pen alone is > any wizbang S3 thing out there!
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I wasn't making a point about the Note's battery life - it really is pretty good - what I waas trying to say was, the S3 alternate ROM scene is very vibrant; the particular ROM I've got currently make a noticeable diff. in battery life; based on my guess work I'm not very sure if the same would happen for the Note.

Seems like all of the Note 2 series including the international one are the same hardware. Why not make it a worldwide phone with a universal radio. or Like on my Sensation? I may be wrong but in any case do like the tmobile version of the s2 and the skyrocket which are very similar phones

gypsy214 said:
It wont be long and my upgrade be here. So I was wondering if I should get this or the s3. I like this one and the fact that is a quad-core and samsung have the same build hardware on all of the note 2. But I also like all the gestures features from the s3
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The note 2 can do anything the S3 can but better.. and bigger.. and with a stylus

Other device and upgrading phone discussion

Please discuss other devices besides the S3 here.
Thanks
FNM

Good place to start, because you know the "what do you think about the s4" is coming.

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I will hopefully get the ball rolling. I personally will wait with upgrading. Reason being is when I upgraded to the s3 when it was at preorders and rumors of other more powerful phones came out. Then the note 2 appeared. I was upset. I will personally wait for the next stage of the new and hopefully octa core processors that the note 2 or the next google phone comes out with.
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+1 I absolutely agree with you Bruce Lee. There's really no need for the S IV. The S III does everything I need it to do and more. The last thing I need a phone to do is take over my life.
The only reason to upgrade from the S III to S IV would be bragging rights... How much are they really worth?
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+1 I absolutely agree with you Bruce Lee. There's really no need for the S IV. The S III does everything I need it to do and more. The last thing I need a phone to do is take over my life.
The only reason to upgrade from the S III to S IV would be bragging rights... How much are they really worth?
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S3 doesn't have a 1080p screen with a 400+ ppi. It is as substantial upgrade as any these days. That being said, I'm going to skip over it. It's pretty much one step above or a half step above the s3 in many ways but I am under contract until December so I can't justify paying outright 500$ mostly for the screen overhaul. If anything I'll wait to see the Motorola X phone since it is supposed to be as low as 200$ from what I've read and wait for the s5 or whatever the new hotness is next year.
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I found the Samsung IV release presentation extremely cheesy---I'm not sure what they were thinking.
I am disappointed at all the hype that preceded the release. What happened to the flexible, unbreakable screen? What happened to the very innovative Big-Little Exynos octocore that the US will not be receiving? And a pentile screen again!
I am pleased with the slightly bigger screen, the +400 ppi, and the bump in battery capacity. IMO, Samsung would have hit a home run if they would have built the Galaxy 4 with similar construction like the HTC One (instead of all the plastic). I hear the speakers on the One are amazing and I hope the Galaxy's are at least on par. My contract renews in January and so I will wait to see what the Motorola X and the new Galaxy Note will provide (if it doesn't go up to a 6 in. screen).

I'm completely happy with my s3, not planning on upgrading any time soon!

I don't understand the hype for 1080p displays... Playing any type of game is going to murder your battery, and you're waisting CPU cycles on pixels you can't see. I personally would've rather had a 720p samoled plus display. No more screen burn in, dark pixels, and battery effiecent.

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I don't understand the hype for 1080p displays... Playing any type of game is going to murder your battery, and you're waisting CPU cycles on pixels you can't see. I personally would've rather had a 720p samoled plus display. No more screen burn in, dark pixels, and battery effiecent.
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Sammy has some new tech that's supposed to reduce battery used by the screen, forgot where I read that but I believe it said Nokia has used it as well before. I haven't used the s4 obviously, but the DROID dna has a 1080p screen and I at least can see a huge difference between that screen and my s3 or my girlys one X which is more comparable given that both the HTCs are lcd. Especially in plain text.
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No I will not upgrade,this is something that I learned the hard and expensive way. There is always gonna be something better.

My thoughts exactly on the stupid Galaxy IV event:
http://androidheadlines.com/2013/03...tude-on-display-not-a-new-flagship-phone.html

I will personally wait for the next stage of the new and hopefully octa core processors that the note 2 or the next google phone comes out with.

So I'm coming from a Samsung Infuse, and honestly, this phone cannot piss me off even more than I already am. I'm talking about constant resets (stuck power button), terrible GPS reception, UNBEARABLE LAG even with the latest paranoid android, and finally, messed up APN settings which bares the phone useless since I can't have any service on it! So now you understand of my struggles with my current phone. I'm in search for something that I can rely on and won't have even the slightest bit of lag after 2+ years of owning it.
Now, I've been doing some research on some phones (gs3, htc one x, htc one, gs4) And I come here to find out your honest opinion on the GS3 since the time you've owned it. Should I save some cash buying a GS3 or a One X, or are there some sort of problems with these phones that have ticked you off that I should consider paying the extra buck and looking at the 2013 flagships instead?

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So I'm coming from a Samsung Infuse, and honestly, this phone cannot piss me off even more than I already am. I'm talking about constant resets (stuck power button), terrible GPS reception, UNBEARABLE LAG even with the latest paranoid android, and finally, messed up APN settings which bares the phone useless since I can't have any service on it! So now you understand of my struggles with my current phone. I'm in search for something that I can rely on and won't have even the slightest bit of lag after 2+ years of owning it.
Now, I've been doing some research on some phones (gs3, htc one x, htc one, gs4) And I come here to find out your honest opinion on the GS3 since the time you've owned it. Should I save some cash buying a GS3 or a One X, or are there some sort of problems with these phones that have ticked you off that I should consider paying the extra buck and looking at the 2013 flagships instead?
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I have had the blackberry storm WOW I literally through that against the wall it was stupid, I got an xperia arc, liked it got bored with it... then I got the Sony XPERIA ION enjoyed the 12MP camera but again it got boring. I can honestly say since I have gotten the S3 I have not thought about owning another phone, the ease of customization all the support for it and it works. I rely on it and there seems to be always something new to try out on it and I am still not bored with it. I am on the i747m.

lemonz23 said:
So I'm coming from a Samsung Infuse, and honestly, this phone cannot piss me off even more than I already am. I'm talking about constant resets (stuck power button), terrible GPS reception, UNBEARABLE LAG even with the latest paranoid android, and finally, messed up APN settings which bares the phone useless since I can't have any service on it! So now you understand of my struggles with my current phone. I'm in search for something that I can rely on and won't have even the slightest bit of lag after 2+ years of owning it.
Now, I've been doing some research on some phones (gs3, htc one x, htc one, gs4) And I come here to find out your honest opinion on the GS3 since the time you've owned it. Should I save some cash buying a GS3 or a One X, or are there some sort of problems with these phones that have ticked you off that I should consider paying the extra buck and looking at the 2013 flagships instead?
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I went from the Infuse to the GS3 and haven't looked back. I had a small crack in the corner of my Infuse and also the camera would not focus so I called up to see what my options were to get it replaced through the insurance plan. They told me my replacement was going to be a GS3 but that a $200 deductable would be charged to my next bill. It was a no brainer, especially since I am not eligable for an upgrade for another year. The GS3 is head and shoulders above the Infuse. It's a flagship phone with tons of support. I got it and rooted it that night. There are tons of great roms on XDA and have tried most of them. This phone is amazing. Can't really see why I'd get the S4. Perhaps when the Note 3 comes out, I would consider upgrading. An even larger screen would be very welcome.

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An upgrade is really dependant on what you use a device for. The s3 does pretty much what I need it to do for work and for personnel uses.
It's plenty fast still. I ran my iPhone 4 to end of contract and still think it could what I need from a phone.
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nexus
I think ill wait for another nexus 4 to come out

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I think ill wait for another nexus 4 to come out
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why would they release another of the same version?
It would be nexus 5 or some other name, they wouldn't reuse the same name

Just moved from my trusty Nexus S to the Canadian Galaxy S3. Love it. Finally I have free ram even when doing intensive tasks. Honestly, this is what Android should feel like.
Still learning the thing, installed TWRP, flashed latest cm10.1 nightly and put back my titanium backup. This thing feels like home, but twice as fast.
It's a bit of a shame there's so many S3 variants, really spreads out the development for it, whereas on the Nexus S there were very few versions (like 4, which all shared similar internals minus modems), making things very simple.
I'll see you guys around!

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Wow, Samsung 4 is $250 at AT&T and I can only assume that Verizon and possibly Sprint will follow suit:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T-Galaxy-S4-price-will-be-249-pre-orders-start-on-April-16_id41309
This is a mistake and will cost them some sales numbers. I'm sure HTC, Motorola/Google, and LG are licking their chops.
Tmobile no contract $99 Galaxy S IV is really tempting. Too bad their service sucks in this area. I'll be at 18 months come January and ready to upgrade and am currently tempted by the LG Optimus G Pro and am awaiting the details on the Google X. It sounds like the Note 3 screen will be too big for my liking.

Do you like your Note 4?

So I just sold my Xperia Z2, Thinking about the Note 4 or G3?
Im leaning more towards the Note 4 but is there common issues going on with them? I`d be buying one Used AT&T is asking way too much for theres.
Also is there an International like rom/stock rom that will work with the AT&T varient? I cannot stand what AT&T does to there software.

Honestly I have Note 4 from AT&T, it's amazing... way better than LG G3... G3 has a few serious issues people say the battery life is horrible, also they phone overheats, it will auto dim your screen when this happens, if you try to turn it up a message comes out an say your phone is to hot... also you can't use no roms on at&t note 4, SM-N910A model and SM-N910V (Verizon) model both r not able to b rooted yet, but I personally think after 5.0 gets released an couple months after we will have a root but right now no... people will alway find ways just takes time an no point when they kno a software update is due... personally I bought a Note 4 but if I was gunna buy any other phone would have been iPhone 6 or 6+ or Nexus 6

my wife has the G3 and I have the Note 4. I'm obviously biased but I prefer the N4 over the G3. Just personal preference since both devices are great. I do like the 'knock to unlock' feature on the G3 and the speakers seem to be louder but I dont regret getting the N4.
It all comes down to your preference.

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So I just sold my Xperia Z2, Thinking about the Note 4 or G3?
Im leaning more towards the Note 4 but is there common issues going on with them? I`d be buying one Used AT&T is asking way too much for theres.
Also is there an International like rom/stock rom that will work with the AT&T varient? I cannot stand what AT&T does to there software.
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tl;dr = YES!!
My full $.02 is on my site: http://www.stupidputer.com/2015/02/the-nexus-4-finally-dies/

I am really drawn to the camera. It takes great pictures, focuses quickly and has very low shot latency, which is really important. My last phone, the LG G2 also took nice pictures, but was so damn slow in shooting. But I'll probably be the first person to jump to the Galaxy s6 and HTC One M9 when they come out. Android doesn't do a great job with utilizing the bigger screens of phones. With the iPhone 6 plus, you get nice landscape UI shift with a lot of apps.

In all honesty, if I had it to do over again, I would probably get the iphone 6. The Note is a little laggy and slugguish and the allure of the spen wore off pretty quickly.

Is it still a good choice?

hi guys,
Let's consider that in 1 or 2 months everything will be back to normal and Note 7 will be back in stores and no one will be harmed again and the buzz is gone.
I don't imagine that Samsung will change the screen Gorilla Glass 5 to something less fragile in addition to the battery, so this will still be a weakness for this phone, because to MHO this seems to be its only real flaw (except the battery), Android Nougat will certainly arrive in few months from now too.
so my questions are these ones:
- Will it still be the best phone of the year?
- Won't we have more difficulties to sell it back within 1-2 years from now without loosing too much?
- Is it still worth buying it?
Also,
If it's still one of the best phones of the year, is it worth waiting Christmas period for hoping having promotions and discounts or Samsung has already lost enough with it and will not provide any more discount on this model and will focus his promotions on his other flagships S7 & coming new ones?

It's the best Android device available right now. If re-sale value and GG5 bother you then yes, it's worth considering those points further. Spec wise, no, it's not matched in the Android space.
I would imagine (I could be wrong) that Samsung will be desperate to put the Note 7 behind them and release the S8 ASAP to do a massive ad campaign and regain some lost sales.
Yes the Note 7 price will drop, yes resale value will be affected by that drop. You will have a fantastic device and if keeping for even 12 months in my opinion it's worth while.

Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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All know that Note7 is epic and I rly doubt it will lose value unless sammy rly drop it's price when S8 will come. Best phone? To iPPL it will never be the best phone, looking at android world the price is not so great but if you put it aside it's sure the best phone of this year... Anyway I don't care. I will get mine and be happy if S8E will be cool I might try selling the N7 and move on. Usually my phone last me 2-3 years and which point I wan't to get a new one.

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Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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I see you posting this in numerous posts. What is it of?

Man, come on, what other device would offer all the fantastic characteristics of the note 7?
one plus 3? it is cheap looking an wayy larger
lg v20? same , but even larger, not to mention the horrible sec display
iphone 7? same looking 2015 device larger and slave-bound
so, what do you feel like to choose?

winol said:
Man, come on, what other device would offer all the fantastic characteristics of the note 7?
one plus 3? it is cheap looking an wayy larger
lg v20? same , but even larger, not to mention the horrible sec display
iphone 7? same looking 2015 device larger and slave-bound
so, what do you feel like to choose?
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True. Samsung may have screwed the model reputation, but there is nothing like it currently. Maybe the Pixel phones will change that, but still, they'll be ugly and only geeks (us included) will go for it, so the note 7 will maintain a moderate resell value for those looking for phones in 2nd hand.

I don't play any games on my phone, I use it for business (we do sales via a company app with clients so it's a must), tasks, reading, podcasts and of course messaging. For what I need it's just perfect, I remember worrying what I'd do without root since I had my S3 rooted and that was 4 years of acclimation, now I don't even remember the idea of rooting until I see it mentioned on some forum or article (I know, blasphemy around here, sorry ).
I also (possibly more blasphemy) *like* Touchwiz on it! I had Good Lock on my original N7 until sending it back other day, and it was a nice throwback to the rooted stock Android look I was used to on my S3, but I actually wanted the Touchwiz back! Got replacement N7 and am not even considering Good Lock, it's sexy and I'm happy with it.