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Hello,
This device will be launching on Oct 28.
I need to know if something needs to be extracted for dev use before we root our phones. I plan on rooting this as soon as i get it, so if the devs need anything, it would be a good idea to tell me what and how to extract it. Im new to the rooting/hacking idea but im a computer technician so a simple explaination will be enough.
Cheers!
My only hope is that it isn't too much different from the 989, I also hope that there aren't as many issues with the screen as the T-Mobile version :/
actually, i was hoping to capture an original image before we even root the phone
just in case we need to flash back for warranty purposes
your best bet is to contact bubby323 that have already created one for the Tmo USA version
kriEv said:
Hello,
This device will be launching on Oct 28.
I need to know if something needs to be extracted for dev use before we root our phones. I plan on rooting this as soon as i get it, so if the devs need anything, it would be a good idea to tell me what and how to extract it. Im new to the rooting/hacking idea but im a computer technician so a simple explaination will be enough.
Cheers!
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Once I get my custom kernels done for the T-Mobile version tonight, I will compile you a root and recovery method, and pass along the instructions on how to make a backup before hands.
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AllGamer said:
actually, i was hoping to capture an original image before we even root the phone
just in case we need to flash back for warranty purposes
your best bet is to contact bubby323 that have already created one for the Tmo USA version
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Hey AllGamer,
Is it at all possible to get separate forums for this? I think it's going to be fairly crowded and add to the confusion.
bubby323 said:
Is it at all possible to get separate forums for this? I think it's going to be fairly crowded and add to the confusion.
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i seriously doubt the Admins will open a new forum for that, when it's the same phone
we just need some instruction to make an OEM ROM Dump and be able to flash it back, in case of warranty.
AllGamer said:
i seriously doubt the Admins will open a new forum for that, when it's the same phone
we just need some instruction to make an OEM ROM Dump and be able to flash it back, in case of warranty.
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Not a whole new forum, but a subforum, kind of like with the Original International Galaxy S II.
bubby323 said:
Once I get my custom kernels done for the T-Mobile version tonight, I will compile you a root and recovery method, and pass along the instructions on how to make a backup before hands.
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Hey AllGamer,
Is it at all possible to get separate forums for this? I think it's going to be fairly crowded and add to the confusion.
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You think the phones will differ that much? Is this going to stop us from getting custom roms installed?
So this puppy is coming out tomorrow 10am!
I need to know how to back up the stock ROM in case something goes wrong while rooting!
I'm going to go to the mall at 10am to get the phone! Woooo!
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I got mine at 8am, already rooted and have loaded eagles blood, went back to TELUS stock to de-bloat using titanium backup.
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dredd0606 said:
I got mine at 8am, already rooted and have loaded eagles blood, went back to TELUS stock to de-bloat using titanium backup.
Dredd
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sweet!
i confirmed availability on the Best Buy stores around my area
i'll be picking one up at lunch time or after work
Does the telus version have the vertical line and blotting issue?
I'm pretty sure it's the same manufacturing line for the t-mobile version. Just a different carrier lock and ROM added in the end.
Up until the software, I don't see why they would manufacture it differently.
So i do suspect that it has the same issues as the t-mobile. Perhaps a smaller percentage since there isn't as many in canada and hopefully the QC got better for the second batch.
I do doubt it's as wide-spread as it appears on the forums. They've probably made millions of these phones that are perfectly fine.
bought my phone in downtown Montreal this morning,
screen is fine.
dont know what date is was manufactured, i cant seem to find the information...
i'll take some snapshot of the screen in a dark room when i get home
Didn't see posts above.
Allgamer please delete this post. Thanks.
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i'll take some snapshot of the screen in a dark room when i get home
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While the ideal test would be to put it against a Sprint unit that are known to have good screens, it may still be useful to put it next to a T-Mobile phone and take pictures while running the test described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
This would at least show us any differences between T-Mobile and Telus displays.
2 questions:
Are these telus branded? i.e. is Telus logo on the face of the phone like the T-Mobile version or does it just say samsung.
Can one root and unlock it to use on rogers or must one buy unlock code from online site?
Could you test the screen and see if it has issues as our tmous screen?
Canadoc said:
2 questions:
Are these telus branded? i.e. is Telus logo on the face of the phone like the T-Mobile version or does it just say samsung.
Can one root and unlock it to use on rogers or must one buy unlock code from online site?
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unbranded no telus logo anywhere
The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
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The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
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Probably...Maybe...Absolutely and most Definitely LOCKED.
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The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
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Of course it will be locked down!!! Us consumers never really OWN our phone that WE purchase!!! So tired of AT&T and others. I sure hope Geohot can bring us some towelroot
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Of course it will be locked down!!! Us consumers never really OWN our phone that WE purchase!!! So tired of AT&T and others. I sure hope Geohot can bring us some towelroot
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Root took a long time for the note 3 but in the end the real fight was and still is the bootloaders. No custom kernels means even with root all you get is basically a bunch of differently themed semi customized stock Roms to play with
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Root took a long time for the note 3 but in the end the real fight was and still is the bootloaders. No custom kernels means even with root all you get is basically a bunch of differently themed semi customized stock Roms to play with
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That's right. I gave up my AT&T note 3 for T-Mobile S5 just for the unlocked bootloader. Although I really would like to see the bootloader unlocked, I can kinda live without unlocked bootloader if I have at least root. I will no longer buy a phone if I can't at least get root. I always wait until root has been achieved before making any purchase. Gotta love HTC for not locking down, but I just don't like their phones that much.
99.999% sure the ATT version will have a locked bootloader. This means it will always be a cat and mouse game with root.
My advice is to wait and not pre-order anything yet. Let the dust settle and see which device will work for you and have root available.
1. You have to ask yourself how long do you normally keep phones? Can you afford to wait 6 months or more (or never if you accidentally take an update) for root on an ATT device you are going to have for 1-2 years?
2. The Tmobile version will most likely have an unlocked bootloader which means you never have to worry about root. It will also most likely work on ATT like the GS5 and the Note3 before it and it will have updates long after Tmobile and Samsung stop supporting it.
If you have Tmobile in your area and you want root it really is the best way to go and cheaper. Why not give them a try? The next best is a Tmobile device on ATT, and third, well.... forget about root.
I have the same very question.
Being on ATT, will the Note 4 be able to be Rooted, and even more important, allow Custom Recovery for ROM's ? If not, NO WAY I can get the Note 4. And Safestrap is not an option, that's a handicapped and gimped wannabe recovery.
Nice thing with HTC, they openly and officially allow their One M8 to have the bootloader unlocked directly through HTC's own website. I did just that with my ATT carrier One M8, and converted it to a GPE. Would like to see Samsung allow that too.
Without a doubt it will be locked.
Ikr! I had T-Mobile but we moved a few years back to an area where they don't have service really at all. I wish I could let them pay my termination fees and bring my four lines there I would save money too. Oh well..
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Ikr! I had T-Mobile but we moved a few years back to an area where they don't have service really at all. I wish I could let them pay my termination fees and bring my four lines there I would save money too. Oh well..
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Get the Tmobile device instead and use it on ATT. Don't be pulled in by the ATT Next hype\propaganda either. You still pay full price for the device. Why not get one that you actually own.
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Get the Tmobile device instead and use it on ATT. Don't be pulled in by the ATT Next hype\propaganda either. You still pay full price for the device. Why not get one that you actually own.
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Yeah I know I'm not falling for the next plan and all that crap not interested in adding more to my monthly bill. I thought about getting the T-Mobile version but I'm starting to just lean towards getting a nexus from google when the new one comes out. Hate to leave Samsung behind but I'm feeling like the time has come to move on
mircury said:
99.999% sure the ATT version will have a locked bootloader. This means it will always be a cat and mouse game with root.
My advice is to wait and not pre-order anything yet. Let the dust settle and see which device will work for you and have root available.
1. You have to ask yourself how long do you normally keep phones? Can you afford to wait 6 months or more (or never if you accidentally take an update) for root on an ATT device you are going to have for 1-2 years?
2. The Tmobile version will most likely have an unlocked bootloader which means you never have to worry about root. It will also most likely work on ATT like the GS5 and the Note3 before it and it will have updates long after Tmobile and Samsung stop supporting it.
If you have Tmobile in your area and you want root it really is the best way to go and cheaper. Why not give them a try? The next best is a Tmobile device on ATT, and third, well.... forget about root.
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Not a good idea. If you want the phone, go get it now. I remember very well that after someone root the HTC phone with s-off, they make it not rootable with it being s-off. It took many months and ransom money for hacker to find it get rid of the s-off.
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Not a good idea. If you want the phone, go get it now. I remember very well that after someone root the HTC phone with s-off, they make it not rootable with it being s-off. It took many months and ransom money for hacker to find it get rid of the s-off.
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Very, very bad advise. You are basically advising people to buy and hope that an exploit will be found, and it's a bad gamble at most. Have you gotten any recent Samsung phones? We aren't talking HTC here. Look at the Note 3, Galaxy S4 and S5 history. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy the phone. I'm saying you should not pre-order it or get it on day one. With the Tmobile note 3 it took a week and a half after release to confirm that it had an unlocked bootloader. At that point a custom recovery was ODIN flashable and root was forever available. It was even faster to confirm that the ATT version was locked down and as of today the bootloader has NEVER been cracked! No CM or AOSP! Only stock kernels are usable. The same with the ATT S5. The bootloader is still locked down. Root has been obtained through an exploit that has since been patched. So if you take an update you are screwed. A bootloader exploit for the latest samsung devices has not been found for the ATT S4, S5, and Note 3 for 1.5 years now.
I have a huge info thread over in the ATT Note 3 section if you want to read it.
My point is, wait for confirmation that a particular device is bootloader unlocked before you put down $750 on a device.
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Very, very bad advise. You are basically advising people to buy and hope, and it's a bad gamble at most. Have you gotten any recent Samsung phones? We aren't talking HTC here. Look at the Note 3, Galaxy S4 and S5 history. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy the phone. I'm saying you should not pre-order it or get it on day one. With the Tmobile note 3 it took a week and a half after release to confirm that it had an unlocked bootloader. At that point a custom recovery was ODIN flashable and root was forever available. It was even faster to confirm that the ATT version was locked down and as of today the bootloader has NEVER been cracked! No CM or AOSP! Only stock kernels are usable. The same with the ATT S5. The bootloader is still locked down. Root has been obtained through an exploit that has since been patched. So if you take an update you are screwed. A bootloader exploit for the latest samsung devices has not been found for the ATT S4, S5, and Note 3 for 1.5 years now.
I have a huge info thread over in the ATT Note 3 section if you want to read it.
My point is, wait for confirmation that a particular device is bootloader unlocked before you put down $750 on a device.
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better advice! But you can certainly blindly guarantee that at&t is locked down.
Am I wanting Root for wrong reasons?
I have been rooting and installing custom ROMS for a few years now. All Samsung phones.
I'm growing tired of custom ROMS. While some are very solid, I have not tried any at all that don't have one problem or another. So, I'm hoping I can be satisfied with just rooting and maybe even staying on TW. I'll be trying to analyze the features I'd lose from Nova if I stay on TW, vs the TW features of the Note 4 I'd lose by going to Nova.
But my main question is do I really NEED root? I'm thinking I want it in order to do true backups (with more concern about data than backing up apps). I am of the impression that data backups may not be possible w/o root. True? Or, depending on App? I know that TIBU seems to want root...I've never tried to use TIBU w/o root.
Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Seems to me I NEED root. Am I misinformed?
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Don't forget adaway, my number 1 use for root, and ya you should be looking at the tmo note. That's coming from someone who did it on the 3rd gen note.
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..., and ya you should be looking at the tmo note. That's coming from someone who did it on the 3rd gen note.
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I'll probably look into that. I typically take advantage of subsidy, but may be worth going with TMO. If the Note 4 had 4GB mem, that would make it easier to make the extra spend. I was hoping for a phone that I may be happy with for longer than 2 years. (Of course the root issue may be the driving factor for purchasing the TMO version, irrespective of other considerations).
ewingr said:
I have been rooting and installing custom ROMS for a few years now. All Samsung phones.
I'm growing tired of custom ROMS. While some are very solid, I have not tried any at all that don't have one problem or another. So, I'm hoping I can be satisfied with just rooting and maybe even staying on TW. I'll be trying to analyze the features I'd lose from Nova if I stay on TW, vs the TW features of the Note 4 I'd lose by going to Nova.
But my main question is do I really NEED root? I'm thinking I want it in order to do true backups (with more concern about data than backing up apps). I am of the impression that data backups may not be possible w/o root. True? Or, depending on App? I know that TIBU seems to want root...I've never tried to use TIBU w/o root.
Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Seems to me I NEED root. Am I misinformed?
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Totally agree with you on all points. Except not sure we "have to root". The Note 4 will be able to handle all "Bloatware" and still fly. Koush's Helium does a good job backing up apps/data. No Nandroid, but if you are not rooting and running the risk of soft bricking and needing to restore a Nandroid, they won't be needed. The cloud for Google will always be there to restore those accounts. The rest you can backup to your sdcard and pc. Not sure I need theming like Xposed offers. As, I am liking the stock look of the S5 which I am running on my S4.
That all being said I would probably get a TMO one on ATT if LTE runs fine and root/flash roms since it is in the blood at this point--
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..Koush's Helium does a good job backing up apps/data...
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Glad you posted this. I had not heard of Helium. I'll have to check it out.
One thing I like to be able to do is backup and restore just data. I'll have to see if that can be done. It's interesting that it doesn't require root, when everything else does.
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Just went to Play Store, and leaves me a bit confuse. The instructions are a bit confusing, as 1a says "Root user? You're done", then goes on to say to install on the PC, which implies to me if non-rooted, you must do backups to PC.
I'll go and read the Wiki.
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A few things that are discouraging, from the WIKI, re: Helium:
If you're using a non-root device, you MUST connect to a PC via the USB port of your device to enable ADB backup permissions.
In problematic applications, ALL Google Apps are listed
...you are using a non-root device, you need to enable Helium at every reboot of the device. This is a PITA
You made a backup to a removable SD card. Again, not advisable as mounting then re-mounting a physical card between devices is problematic for backups. Use PC Download, a cloud destination or device-to-device sync.
Those are just the issues I'm not sure I'd want to mess with. So, hoping to ultimately achieve ROOT.
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Glad you posted this. I had not heard of Helium. I'll have to check it out.
One thing I like to be able to do is backup and restore just data. I'll have to see if that can be done. It's interesting that it doesn't require root, when everything else does.
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Just went to Play Store, and leaves me a bit confuse. The instructions are a bit confusing, as 1a says "Root user? You're done", then goes on to say to install on the PC, which implies to me if non-rooted, you must do backups to PC.
I'll go and read the Wiki.
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A few things that are discouraging, from the WIKI, re: Helium:
If you're using a non-root device, you MUST connect to a PC via the USB port of your device to enable ADB backup permissions.
In problematic applications, ALL Google Apps are listed
...you are using a non-root device, you need to enable Helium at every reboot of the device. This is a PITA
You made a backup to a removable SD card. Again, not advisable as mounting then re-mounting a physical card between devices is problematic for backups. Use PC Download, a cloud destination or device-to-device sync.
Those are just the issues I'm not sure I'd want to mess with. So, hoping to ultimately achieve ROOT.
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You can try MyBackUp Pro from Play Store--Have used it for years. Assuming it updates for Note 4--sure it will. You can email them--
Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..
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Any AT&T SM-T217A users here successfully obtain root via Srsroot on their tabs? They dropped a tweet a month ago that it was supported @ 4.4.2, but it's not sticking for me..
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Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677
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Nope. I tried that one out as soon as it posted. Here is the thread discussing http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/help/root-sma-4-4-2-t2902677
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These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.
rmntruexjr said:
These T217As I bought are turning out to be the worst experience I have ever had with a decent device. The specs and the battery life are great, but AT&T (or samsung?) has lost their mind. Out of my two tabs (both set up identical) Only one was ever eligible for the 4.4.2 upgrade. The second says no upgrade when I check for one.
The one I did upgrade was so bad on 4.4.2 that I ended up trying to flash back to 4.2.2 before I realized I couldn't and bricked the tab.
2 months later, still no upgrade available for my second tab (probably a good thing except I wanted to try an app that says it can catch the firmware update to use on my bricked tab). Still no 4.4.2 firmware to be found on the internet to download for this device.
The worst part is it doesn't even seem to be available from kies. Kies 3 doesn't even recognize it as a 4.4.2 device anymore after the attempted downgrade and the other kies versions only offer 4.2.2 which the device won't let me flash.
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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bigdawg6183 said:
I totally agree rmn, the experience with this tablet has been sub par. I know when I first heard about the update being released I was checking around online to see if I could find a dl for it, none existed. I did finally go through the process of updating OTA after having to remove root from my 4.2 firmware. Since the update my tablet appears to operate the same except for the lag has returned. I believe that is because I now no longer have my tweaks setup on the device since I have no root. My real peeve with AT&T with this tab is the locked bootloader, come on man, I want to load up different roms and get rid of all this bloatware. We cant even get root access with this new 4.4!
Could I get a screenshot of your about screen on the tab that is not updating?
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I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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DSTG said:
If it's in warranty, take it to the AT&T store. Tell them you did OTA and it 'got all screwy'. don't use terms like "bricked". Feign ignorance on all the workings of rooting and roms and stuff. Don't even use the term "Rom", use "operating system". Assuming you have the same boot error message I did, something to the effect of "there was a problem updating", apparently it's common enough that they'll get you to Samsung. Samsung will email you a shipping label, and in about a week to a week in a half, I had mine back functional again. Granted they put it on 4.4.2, which is a bummer, but at least it works. No questions asked. they didn't ask me about rooting or anything, I just told them I did the update, rebooted, it rebooted once, and then I had to reboot again and it had the error. First I took it so Samsung rep at best buy, he couldn't do anything, then I took it to the AT&T store. AT&T doesn't deal with tablet warranties, so that's why they put me on the phone with Samsung. On amazon, they have refurbished t217a's for $144.00, and on the description it says they're on 4.1.2 (rootable, and upgradable to 4.2.2 w/odin, which is also rootable. 4.2.2 firmware was a gigantic pain in the ass to get a hold of, but it's out there. I know it's not the answer you want, but hope it helps at least return the tablet into working state. I don't think we'll ever see a root for t217a on 4.4.2, nor any way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. Just not enough interest from the guys with the time and know-how. It was Samsung's bottom-end tablet, and the Tab S is just better for almost everyone. I use the Tab3 7.0 for work mainly because of it's size. I'm a pilot and I strap the tablet to my leg for approach plates and maps and stuff, and the size of the 7.0 is just right. The 8.0 and 8.3(?) is just a bit to big for that purpose. Anyway, I just hope (but not holding my breath) that Samsung + AT&T well at the very LEAST update the thing to lollipop so we can at least get full external SD card function again, because aviation maps and references and the sort take up a LOT of memory after a while..
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I wish it was that easy, but I ditched AT&T years ago and went to straight talk. These tabs I purchased second hand.
rmntruexjr said:
I just now saw your post. When I get back home I'll take a screenshot. It's set up identical to the one I upgraded and bricked. Rooted with kingo, installed the tweaks for this tab from development (KoolKit) and using a few xposed modules to change some notification/statusbar icons..Not much else you can do to these things, and if I had to guess, the only difference between the two would maybe be different versions of the KoolKit tweaks.
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No worries mate. Hmmm, if it was root that was stopping the update from showing it should have been the case on both tabs. Plus, mine was originally rooted when I searched for the update and it found it fine. You do definitely have to remove root to successfully update to 4.4, which totally blows, but with the SD card changes that came out in 4.4 I had to do it.
Hello,
I am trying to root an LG G Pad 2 8.0 (V498) but i cannot find the subforum for it, it doesnt seem to exist...
Does anyone knows where i can find any infos for this model ?
thanks!
its a relatively new model, especially in Canada.
I got one from Fido Wireless, but the sticker says v497; I have the gpad 2 8.0, but with wrong sticker?
anyways, there are plenty of guides to try in the lg g3 forum along side the one click root methods like kingoroot, root genius, and more...
LTE / data units are v495, v496, v497, and the wifi only version g pad II is V498 all sport the same hardware features other than data of course. I've rooted my v495 using the method in the all info v496 thread and it looks like they are making headway in development.
Thank you, Bryan.
that clarifies things for me.
so, do we know whats being worked on? like recoveries, kernels, etc...?
if so, do we know about cross-compatibility for each model?
Hi there will anyone out there be able to direct me to the root method for the Lg G Pad
Rogers version v497 any help would be appreciated
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Hi there will anyone out there be able to direct me to the root method for the Lg G Pad
Rogers version v497 any help would be appreciated
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Look here, use at your own risk, I recently bricked my V495 AT&T trying to load TWRP Custom recovery. Rooting was not a problem though.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/help/tmobile-gpad-f-8-0-v496-info-t3139894
Being that there is no v498 sub, I guess I'll side track this thread a little. Someone mentioned here that v495-v498 are all essentially the same hardware. My son cracked the screen on his v498. I found only 1 supplier selling a specific v498 screen, from China, for $90.. I have found plenty of the other models like v495 or v496 for a little cheaper and in the US. I'm wondering if anyone knows if these other LCD/Digitizers should work on the v498? I have it opened up and, I actually see a LG-V495 stamped in the plastic even though the back sticker says V498, so I am assuming the v495/v496 screens should work on this, but just want to verify before I order one.
Maliron said:
Being that there is no v498 sub, I guess I'll side track this thread a little. Someone mentioned here that v495-v498 are all essentially the same hardware. My son cracked the screen on his v498. I found only 1 supplier selling a specific v498 screen, from China, for $90.. I have found plenty of the other models like v495 or v496 for a little cheaper and in the US. I'm wondering if anyone knows if these other LCD/Digitizers should work on the v498? I have it opened up and, I actually see a LG-V495 stamped in the plastic even though the back sticker says V498, so I am assuming the v495/v496 screens should work on this, but just want to verify before I order one.
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Late answer here, but it should work fine.
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NeoWave said:
Hello,
I am trying to root an LG G Pad 2 8.0 (V498) but i cannot find the subforum for it, it doesnt seem to exist...
Does anyone knows where i can find any infos for this model ?
thanks!
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This is a little late to the game, but here's what worked for me on the wifi-only LG G Pad II 8.0 (v498), and it might help others.
I used Kingroot (4.8.2) to root the tablet, then used Supersume Pro from the Play Store to remove Kingroot and install Supersu. (I'd tried a couple other methods for removing Kingroot first, but they didn't work, and Supersume Pro (v. 9.3.7) nworked really quickly and with zero pain, so that's the method I'd recommend. It does cost a few bucks, but IMO, it was worth it for the ease of use.) It's working perfectly. (Supersume Pro is available at the Play store at: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=darkslide.com.supersumepro -- can't post the link because I'm a new member.)
I've rooted before using clockwork mod, etc., on other devices, but Kingroot does make rooting simpler. If you don't trust Kingroot for rooting, another method might work, but I had trouble finding one specifically for this device.
Cons to using Kingroot (and keeping it):
1. It installs a cleaner app called "Purify" which you may or may not want, and which you have to install to get to the rooting screen. It can be uninstalled separately, though.
2. Kingroot really messed with my Okay Google app. It turns itself on in "Accessibility" mode (or however you might put that correctly), and when turned off from the Accessibility settings, Okay Google will work again. However, Kingroot "insists" on turning itself on in the Accessibility settings, and will keep resetting, overriding your setting. It may also hijack other aspects of the tablet that I didn't notice -- I replaced it with SuperSU shortly after rooting.
3. Many people are nervous about the amount of data sent to the Kingroot servers in China during the rooting process. I'm on the fence about whether it's dangerous or not. I think it potentially is -- regardless of the location or ownership of the servers -- but I have no idea whether it's *actually* dangerous or not. If that aspect worries you, you should try another method to root your tablet. I think I would have been more reluctant to use Kingroot if I had the version of this tablet with the sim card.
4. Kingroot is quite recalcitrant to removal and replacement. Two methods that I used to try to remove Kingroot (without unrooting the device) didn't work -- and even after the program was no longer on the tablet, I could not replace its su with a different binary. I had to reinstall and uninstall using SuperSume. I might have had better results replacing it with SuperSu manually if I'd been more patient, but I didn't want to spend too much time on it.
Pros to using Kingroot:
1. It's fast.
2. It requires little technical skill.
3. It can be removed and replaced with SuperSu (or, presumably, some other superuser manager), though that ranges from very easy (using SuperSume) to extremely difficult (especially if you don't play with rooting a lot -- and people with only one or two Android devices generally root once then forget it till the next time they need to root a new device, and so don't have a huge amount of experience with it).
I hope this helps someone!
I'm going to be receiving my tablet soon and since it's stuck with Android 5.0 I was hoping to find a custom ROM with Android 6 but it turns out there's not even a thread for this device. Does anybody knows of any ROMs for this device? I'm getting mine from Fido and it's also LTE enabled. Rooting is not required for me since I'm not really into customization much but having the latest version of Android is important.
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I'm going to be receiving my tablet soon and since it's stuck with Android 5.0 I was hoping to find a custom ROM with Android 6 but it turns out there's not even a thread for this device. Does anybody knows of any ROMs for this device? I'm getting mine from Fido and it's also LTE enabled. Rooting is not required for me since I'm not really into customization much but having the latest version of Android is important.
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I also have an V497 - Fido and would like to change the ROM since it becomes slow and almost unusable. Stuck on Android 5. Have you finally found any options like LOS or other working for G Pad II V495-V498 family?
Thanks in advance
In theory what if we where to flash a global rom to a usa variant s9 then proceed to unlocking the bootloader and oem unlock ???
Seems that would have been tried long before now.
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ANY LUCK GETTING THE SAMSUNG GALAXY S9 BOOST MOBILE IS MY CARRIER
model: SM-G960U
ONE UI VERSION: 1.0 , ANDROID VERSION: 9 , BASEBAND VERSION: G960USQU6CSGF
ANDROID SECURITY PATCH LEVEL: JULY 1ST 2019 , SE for ANDROID STATUS: ENFORCING SEPF_SM_G960U_9_0006
EVERYWHERE I HAVE LOOK I HAVE FAILED!!! ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO FIX THE SOLUTION ON HOW TO GET THIS DEVICE ROOTED. IF ANYONE CAN PLEASE HELP??? SEND A LINK OR GIVE ME ANY INFOMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! I HAVE TRIED AND LOOK THRU MANY THREADS TO FIND NOTHING THAT HAS WORK YET...... I JUST GOT THE UPDATED A WEEK AGO FOR THE NEW SGF BASEBAND. PLEASE HELP!
OR SEND ME A LINK OR INFORMATION ON THIS
XxTeXx07xX said:
ANY LUCK GETTING THE SAMSUNG GALAXY S9 BOOST MOBILE IS MY CARRIER
model: SM-G960U
ONE UI VERSION: 1.0 , ANDROID VERSION: 9 , BASEBAND VERSION: G960USQU6CSGF
ANDROID SECURITY PATCH LEVEL: JULY 1ST 2019 , SE for ANDROID STATUS: ENFORCING SEPF_SM_G960U_9_0006
EVERYWHERE I HAVE LOOK I HAVE FAILED!!! ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO FIX THE SOLUTION ON HOW TO GET THIS DEVICE ROOTED. IF ANYONE CAN PLEASE HELP??? SEND A LINK OR GIVE ME ANY INFOMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! I HAVE TRIED AND LOOK THRU MANY THREADS TO FIND NOTHING THAT HAS WORK YET...... I JUST GOT THE UPDATED A WEEK AGO FOR THE NEW SGF BASEBAND. PLEASE HELP!
OR SEND ME A LINK OR INFORMATION ON THIS
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Yelling won't change the answer. That model, regardless of carrier, is bootloader locked. It ain't gettin' root.
End if story.
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joeldf said:
Yelling won't change the answer. That model, regardless of carrier, is bootloader locked. It ain't gettin' root.
End if story.
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what if i yell in 40 pt font?
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what if i yell in 40 pt font?
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Guess you can always try...
Did I really say "End if story"?
I could edit it, but your quote has now immortalized it. ?
joeldf said:
Guess you can always try...
Did I really say "we are no longer the knights who saaaaaaay NI! we are now the knights who saaaaaaaaay icky icky ba-dang zoifmomng"?
I could edit it, but your quote has now immortalized it.
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well, we could go edit some edits, but one never knows what can happen when people go off and do silly things like that
Idk if this helps but #*9900# will bring up this menu and can enable upload mode (it appears to be disabled from factory) I know that's how the s8 was rooted and thought it might be what's stopping root on the s9 @partcyborg may shed some light on this
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Idk if this helps but #*9900# will bring up this menu and can enable upload mode (it appears to be disabled from factory) I know that's how the s8 was rooted and thought it might be what's stopping root on the s9 @partcyborg may shed some light on this
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USA market S9s are not rootable. The G960U models are screwed. Not that it bugs me because root messes up SPay, and id gladly give up root for that if i was forced to choose. Which I am LoL
EDIT: USA S9's are now rootable. Please refer to the guides
I'm sure people thought the same about s8, it was far from the conventional root method but if we never get root on s9 it's all good but I'll never buy another $700 Samsung if I can't own it. That's what root is about for me. They shouldn't be able to tell me what I can and can't do with my $700 phone and just thinkin about it really makes me wanna throw it in the trash, I'm tired of being a Google slave and I can't remove gapps and replace services without root I'd trade this piece of junk for a s8+ in a heart beat
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I'm sure people thought the same about s8, it was far from the conventional root method but if we never get root on s9 it's all good but I'll never buy another $700 Samsung if I can't own it. That's what root is about for me. They shouldn't be able to tell me what I can and can't do with my $700 phone and just thinkin about it really makes me wanna throw it in the trash, I'm tired of being a Google slave and I can't remove gapps and replace services without root I'd trade this piece of junk for a s8+ in a heart beat
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what exactly are you missing without root? not being sarcastic, just curious. i used to be a root or die kind of person until i was faced with this unrootable device but gained SPay. Honestly, just curious to see what people still use root for
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what exactly are you missing without root? not being sarcastic, just curious. i used to be a root or die kind of person until i was faced with this unrootable device but gained SPay. Honestly, just curious to see what people still use root for
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For one, being able to uninstall software you don't want/use that's just taking space. Also, during my flashaholic days, being able to use different kernels to significantly increase battery usage and being able to install lean/pared-down roms for that extra snappy performance.
My s9 is stuck in emergency recovery and will not go into download mode. I've tried everything can anyone help me.....
Someone please work on the Qualpwn I'm willing to chip in something on the bounty and I'm sure I'm not the only one, @partcyborg, wanna make some money?
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Someone please work on the Qualpwn I'm willing to chip in something on the bounty and I'm sure I'm not the only one, @partcyborg, wanna make some money?
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The S9 has been out for over a year. Plenty of people around here have been picking at it. If there was a way, you'd think something would have been found by now.
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The S9 has been out for over a year. Plenty of people around here have been picking at it. If there was a way, you'd think something would have been found by now.
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exactly
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leftylok83 said:
My s9 is stuck in emergency recovery and will not go into download mode. I've tried everything can anyone help me.....
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do you have ADB installed on your computer? if so use the command to reboot into download mode
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hey_joe said:
For one, being able to uninstall software you don't want/use that's just taking space. Also, during my flashaholic days, being able to use different kernels to significantly increase battery usage and being able to install lean/pared-down roms for that extra snappy performance.
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those items you mentioned arent as bad as they used to be. The kernels are pretty efficient nowadays and with the advent of the U1 Odin flashable files, there isnt much need to uninstall too many things. Dont get me wrong, i really miss being able to flash whatever i wanted (i started my root journey on the OG Evo, then went to the S3, S5, A8 and now S9) and yes, it does make a difference for each individual phone as they all are somehow a tad different. I wish we could root. I really wish we could root and maintain SPay and SHealth. But even if root is accomplished, but it breaks SPay, ill not root. SPay is that important to me
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those items you mentioned arent as bad as they used to be. The kernels are pretty efficient nowadays and with the advent of the U1 Odin flashable files, there isnt much need to uninstall too many things. Dont get me wrong, i really miss being able to flash whatever i wanted (i started my root journey on the OG Evo, then went to the S3, S5, A8 and now S9) and yes, it does make a difference for each individual phone as they all are somehow a tad different. I wish we could root. I really wish we could root and maintain SPay and SHealth. But even if root is accomplished, but it breaks SPay, ill not root. SPay is that important to me
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You're probably right. Haven't flashed anything on a Android phone since LG G4. Been using an iPhone X as my daily driver since that time and just received this S9 when renewing my contract. I've had the LG G7 One for a couple of months and the S10 after that for a few days. Both have been sold since I find them really expensive to risk bricking. You could say my flashing days are waning and just want to stick to secure environment which is why I'm using an iphone where there is no temptation to modify anything. This S9 is still kind of new and just my backup phone so I can still afford to tinker with it but as I found out, it's not even possible to unlock the bootloader so I guess it'll go back in the drawer for now or sell it.
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You're probably right. Haven't flashed anything on a Android phone since LG G4. Been using an iPhone X as my daily driver since that time and just received this S9 when renewing my contract. I've had the LG G7 One for a couple of months and the S10 after that for a few days. Both have been sold since I find them really expensive to risk bricking. You could say my flashing days are waning and just want to stick to secure environment which is why I'm using an iphone where there is no temptation to modify anything. This S9 is still kind of new and just my backup phone so I can still afford to tinker with it but as I found out, it's not even possible to unlock the bootloader so I guess it'll go back in the drawer for now or sell it.
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yeah, the bootloader is probably a lost cause for the immediate future. i got my S9 a few months ago for $275 from Cricket and flashed the U1 firmware shortly after getting it. We went to Cancun for a week, so i left it alone before the trip, but as soon as we got home, i flashed it LoL
anyways, i wouldnt blame you for selling it if its just your backup phone especially since there is no real tinkering beyond the goodlock app from samsung themselves, which is pretty limited
To Be honest, theres is no sense in rooting this phone anyway! To what tinker with a few dumb options lol.... Them childish days are gone. Thought it would be neat till I really thought of the constant headaches and bull$hit wasted time! NM
You can might as well get an iPhone if you want to allow someone else to own it for you. I like the freedom it's not childish to not want to charge your phone constantly or to want to remove factory Spyware I don't understand why you would think any of this is childish but ok