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Mrdabbas said:
So I bought this note 3 from this lady on craigslist. Its a T-Mobile note 3. I specifically asked her if it was paid off and she said yes. Well as it turns out the phone isn't paid off. So I'm pretty sure it's going you be blacklisted soon.
My question is this; since T-Mobile provided me the unlock code for the device and the device is now factory unlocked. What options does that give me one the phone is blacklisted ion the near future?
PS: the presumably nice looking lady would reply to me.. Sad what people would do to get money sometimes...
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Do you have her saying it paid off in writing.
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Do you have her saying it paid off in writing.
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Well I asked her if phone was under contract via text and she replied by said the phone is paid off in cash. But I went to her home and bought it and asked her again if it was paid off and she said it's paid off in full.. It's only after I found out it wasn't paid off that she disappeared.. And I also nearly saw her naked coming out the shower... So yeah...
Mrdabbas said:
Well I asked her if phone was under contract via text and she replied by said the phone is paid off in cash. But I went to her home and bought it and asked her again if it was paid off and she said it's paid off in full.. It's only after I found out it wasn't paid off that she disappeared.. And I also nearly saw her naked coming out the shower... So yeah...
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As long as u have text go to the cops make a report. Then call t mobile and tell them she told you in writing it was paid off. If anything you might have to do small claims court. But keep the text she sent you
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Mrdabbas said:
So I bought this note 3 from this lady on craigslist. Its a T-Mobile note 3. I specifically asked her if it was paid off and she said yes. Well as it turns out the phone isn't paid off. So I'm pretty sure it's going you be blacklisted soon.
My question is this; since T-Mobile provided me the unlock code for the device and the device is now factory unlocked. What options does that give me one the phone is blacklisted ion the near future?
PS: the presumably nice looking lady would reply to me.. Sad what people would do to get money sometimes...
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That's strange. T-Mobile usually won't provide unlock codes unless the phone is fully paid. Are you certain that she didn't pay the balance on the phone after you gave her the money?
Techngro said:
That's strange. T-Mobile usually won't provide unlock codes unless the phone is fully paid. Are you certain that she didn't pay the balance on the phone after you gave her the money?
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Note true mine is unlocked. All you have to say is your traveling and need to use other Sim cards
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They wouldnt provide code for s3 of kine when I was traveling cause I owed $80 on it.
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For future purchases for yourself and anyone for that fact, if you go to http://swappa.com/esn you can see if there is money owed or not. I only owe $23 on mine and it still shows via that link that its not paid in full.
droidkevlar said:
For future purchases for yourself and anyone for that fact, if you go to http://swappa.com/esn you can see if there is money owed or not. I only owe $23 on mine and it still shows via that link that its not paid in full.
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It's my understanding that the IMEI checker will only show if the phone is blocked or not blocked, but won't tell you whether the device is on EIP. Can you confirm that it actually says 'not paid in full' or something to that effect?
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It's my understanding that the IMEI checker will only show if the phone is blocked or not blocked, but won't tell you whether the device is on EIP. Can you confirm that it actually says 'not paid in full' or something to that effect?
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See attached showing its financed.
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See attached showing its financed.
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Ok thx.
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Note true mine is unlocked. All you have to say is your traveling and need to use other Sim cards
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i told them im traveling overseas and they sent me an email with the unlock code and i put an inactive sim card from another carrier and input the unlock code.... "success! phone is now unlocked"... so i check on swappa and it said phone is still being financed... what am i going to do with this phone?... the cops here in Oakland Ca get so many reports its nearly impossible to get anywhere with them. If its blacklisted and unlocked, what carriers can i use it on? should i just send it to my family overseas and see if they can make any use of it there?
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i told them im traveling overseas and they sent me an email with the unlock code and i put an inactive sim card from another carrier and input the unlock code.... "success! phone is now unlocked"... so i check on swappa and it said phone is still being financed... what am i going to do with this phone?... the cops here in Oakland Ca get so many reports its nearly impossible to get anywhere with them. If its blacklisted and unlocked, what carriers can i use it on? should i just send it to my family overseas and see if they can make any use of it there?
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Have you tried calling T-Mobile directly and verified with them that this phone is still being financed?
If not, then you're good.
If yes, file a police report and take her to a small claim court. It's very easy to do this, no lawyer needed.
Swappa says my old s3 I still have is financed. But is not. I know I bought I t newm been paid off for 2 months. Looks like slow reporting.
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In what Country is this practice illegal? In the US I can take pictures of whomever I please doing whatever they happen to be doing in public. In Public, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. Not challenge going your moderator status, but people misrepresent laws all the time.... like the Police do.
I was under the impression that the owner of the device has to call for the unlock code. The OP is saying he received an unlock code from T-Mobile for a phone registered to someone else? I'm also under the impression that you have to use a phone on T-Mobiles network for a certain number of days before they will provide the code.
Unlock requirements
We provide mobile device unlock codes free of charge within two business days (or provides further information about timing) for eligible devices.
Device eligibility is determined as follows:
The device must be a T-Mobile device.
The device must not be reported as lost, stolen or blocked to T-Mobile.
The account associated with the device must be in good standing.
You have requested no more than 2 mobile device unlock codes per line of service in the last 12 months.
The device must satisfy all the Postpaid or Pay in Advance (Prepaid) Unlocking terms outlined below.
Unlock Eligibility for Monthly Phones and Tablets
The device must have been active on the T-Mobile network for at least 40 days on the requesting line.
If the device was financed using T-Mobile’s Equipment Installment Plan (EIP), then all payments must be satisfied and the device must be paid in full.
If the device is on an account that has are under a service contract term, then at least 18 consecutive monthly payments must have been made or the account was migrated to Simple Choice no contract rate plan.
If the device is associated with a canceled account, then the account balance must be zero.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.
Unlock Eligibility for Pay in Advance (Prepaid) Phones and Tablets
The device has been active on the T-Mobile network for more than 1 year.
If the device has been active for less than 1 year, then the Pay in Advance account associated with the device must have had more than $25 in refills for basic phones or $100 in refills for smartphones or tablet since device first use date.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.
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Stepping out of her shower is hardly in public, and even in public there are laws regarding such actions. Keep this thread on topic or it will be closed.
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Guys,
I was researching about unlocking my Lumia 900 since april, just like 100s of you. I was looking over nokia forums and one of the guys recommends filing complains with fcc. He even gave a link - http://www.fcc.gov/complaints
Those who purchased the phone for a full price, please fill up the form and submit. If there will be a lot of us, fcc might be able help with that.
He says that you should receive a call from AT&T very soon if FCC will decide to help you with that.
I looked in to this briefly, and I don't think unlock requests are covered. It might be viable after 53 days when at&t says they'll give codes.
We've been around this block over and over again. AT&T is not obligated to unlock your phone even if you bought it at full price, and FCC will tell you the same.
Is there any other method to unlock lumia 900 beside the unlocking code? At least if some one trying to unlock this phone would be fantastic.
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pk-air said:
Is there any other method to unlock lumia 900 beside the unlocking code? At least if some one trying to unlock this phone would be fantastic.
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No there isn't, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or trying to scam out of your money. Just wait a while longer, AT&T will start unlocking them beginning Oct 8th when exclusivity period expires.
AnyMal said:
No there isn't, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or trying to scam out of your money. Just wait a while longer, AT&T will start unlocking them beginning Oct 8th when exclusivity period expires.
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I am not really sure if they will start on october 8. They already lied to me in the store that there would be no problem to unlock it.
And yeah - they are doing illegal thing by refusing to unlock the phone. They don't have any legal reason to keep it locked.
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I am not really sure if they will start on october 8. They already lied to me in the store that there would be no problem to unlock it.
And yeah - they are doing illegal thing by refusing to unlock the phone. They don't have any legal reason to keep it locked.
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If I had a dollar every time we went over this It is NOT illegal for them to refuse to unlock the phone. There is no law in US that states mobile operators are obligated to unlock phones to work on other operators. It absolutely doesn't matter whether you bought phone on contract or paid full price.
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We've been around this block over and over again. AT&T is not obligated to unlock your phone even if you bought it at full price, and FCC will tell you the same.
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This is 100% false. If you buy it for full price and they tell you it can work on another network they either owe you a 100% refund or an unlock code. Fraud is fraud.
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If I had a dollar every time we went over this It is NOT illegal for them to refuse to unlock the phone. There is no law in US that states mobile operators are obligated to unlock phones to work on other operators. It absolutely doesn't matter whether you bought phone on contract or paid full price.
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Fraud is illegal. If you pay full price and they tell you it is unlocked or can be unlocked over the phone they must refund or give the unlock code. Not sure why people think the law doesn't apply to the telecom business. The problem is the methods for forcing at&t to do the right thing were spelled out... not sure if anyone actually followed the instructions.
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This is 100% false. If you buy it for full price and they tell you it can work on another network they either owe you a 100% refund or an unlock code. Fraud is fraud.
Fraud is illegal. If you pay full price and they tell you it is unlocked or can be unlocked over the phone they must refund or give the unlock code. Not sure why people think the law doesn't apply to the telecom business. The problem is the methods for forcing at&t to do the right thing were spelled out... not sure if anyone actually followed the instructions.
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Please provide a link to AT&T terms of service where it explicitly tells you that AT&T is obligated to unlock your phone when you pay full price. Please provide a link to Attorney General, Consumer Protection Agency, BBB, Federal Trade Commission, or any other regulating body that specifies mobile carriers MUST unlock phones.
I'll spare you trouble, you can't find such information because it doesn't exist. Stop making a fool out of yourself and trying to fool others. Do your homework before telling someone they're "100% false", otherwise you're just making yourself look ridiculous.
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Please provide a link to AT&T terms of service where it explicitly tells you...
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The at&t terms or service are irrelevant. You realize there are numerous people that bought the phone for full price and never signed up for "service" with at&t. You realize that, right? Right? If you walk in and pay full price after the salesperson says the phone will work on your network they have to either make it work on your network or give a refund. This isn't rocket science.
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The at&t terms or service are irrelevant. You realize there are numerous people that bought the phone for full price and never signed up for "service" with at&t. You realize that, right? Right? If you walk in and pay full price after the salesperson says the phone will work on your network they have to either make it work on your network or give a refund. This isn't rocket science.
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I am not sure if you're really inept or just trolling. It absolutely doesn't matter if you sign up for AT&T service just like it doesn't matter if you pay full price. When you buy AT&T phone you buy AT&T phone, meaning that it is only guaranteed to work on AT&T. Not unlocked, not T-Mobile, not Sprint - AT&T. Get it? Stop trying to make a point, you don't have one.
Dear friends, I only have one thing to ask in relation to this whole discussion. For people who signed a two-year contract with AT & T and that will necessarily fulfill the contract, what difference it makes to AT & T if the phone will be unlocked or not? The commitment already exists, the contract must be fulfilled unconditionally, then why keep the devices blocked? Sadism??
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The at&t terms or service are irrelevant. You realize there are numerous people that bought the phone for full price and never signed up for "service" with at&t. You realize that, right? Right? If you walk in and pay full price after the salesperson says the phone will work on your network they have to either make it work on your network or give a refund. This isn't rocket science.
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Sounds to me like your ***** should be with the salesperson. Sales Rule #1: Tell them whatever they want to hear. And I think the phone does "work". Just not completely.
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This is 100% false. If you buy it for full price and they tell you it can work on another network they either owe you a 100% refund or an unlock code. Fraud is fraud.
Fraud is illegal. If you pay full price and they tell you it is unlocked or can be unlocked over the phone they must refund or give the unlock code. Not sure why people think the law doesn't apply to the telecom business. The problem is the methods for forcing at&t to do the right thing were spelled out... not sure if anyone actually followed the instructions.
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You're implying the Telco's run an illegal business and its up to us to enforce it? Pretty sure that's not what you mean, but it sure sounds like it. in the past 5 years this has received tons of scrutiny by the FCC. Any yet, the phones stay locked. That should tell you something.
I think Anymal says it with his comment about locked and unlocked. Actually, AT&T doesn't sell Unlocked phones. They sell Contract and NO Contract phones. But no matter, At&T is still AT&T
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You're implying the Telco's run an illegal business and its up to us to enforce it? Pretty sure that's not what you mean, but it sure sounds like it. in the past 5 years this has received tons of scrutiny by the FCC. Any yet, the phones stay locked. That should tell you something.
I think Anymal says it with his comment about locked and unlocked. Actually, AT&T doesn't sell Unlocked phones. They sell Contract and NO Contract phones. But no matter, At&T is still AT&T
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This is a classic case of what happens when assumptions replace common sense. People tend to assume that buying phones off contract entitles them to remove carrier restrictions, at carrier's expense. Of course, this is a completely false assumption. Carriers are not going to stop anyone from leaving, they just won't help them to do so. You were sold AT&T phone and that is exactly what you received; no more, no less. Salesman lied? Never heard of that appening before silly but if that's the case take it up with their management.
I am still puzzeld as to what breeds these assumptions, but misinformation is so persistent that many less-educated consumers (and apparently some members) are treating it as gospel.
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Dear friends, I only have one thing to ask in relation to this whole discussion. For people who signed a two-year contract with AT & T and that will necessarily fulfill the contract, what difference it makes to AT & T if the phone will be unlocked or not? The commitment already exists, the contract must be fulfilled unconditionally, then why keep the devices blocked? Sadism??
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Well a lot of us didn't put a deposit down when we got the phone. Mine was "free." I paid a $30 "activation fee." They can't just let you walk out the door with a $500 device for $30 and not have some controls in place. Yes they have a contract but if you break the contract what are they going to do? The only thing they can do is report you to a credit bureau and turn your account over to a collections agency. Even then in a lot of cases it's doubtful they will collect much.
If you pay full price? Well then yeah I have no idea about that. First of all very few people would do that in the United States and I can't imagine how it hurts at&t. That's what is so confusing about the deceptive sales practices and the obstinance.
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Sounds to me like your ***** should be with the salesperson. Sales Rule #1: Tell them whatever they want to hear. And I think the phone does "work". Just not completely.
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I don't have any "*****" as you put it. I have no need to unlock my phone at this time. I was just debunking misinformation on the internet as a public service. "Tell them whatever they want to hear" will get you in legal trouble. I've had this routine pulled on me and the companies that did it ended up paying me THOUSANDS. The problem is there is so much misinformation out there people simply do not know how to pursue these matters.
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You're implying Telcos never get sanctioned for doing illegal things?!
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This is a classic case of what happens when assumptions...
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Actually several people physically went into at&t stores and were told that they could buy the Lumia 900 for the full price and get the phone unlocked and use it once they got back to Canada. Someone in another thread actually posted images of their unlocked at&t Lumia working with their Canadian sim once at&t provided the unlock code to them. No assumptions.
Folks it doesn't matter whether you are discussing phones or widgets. If someone tells you a device will work in a particular manner at at your home location and it doesn't they have to either refund you or make it work. I'm not sure why people are confused about this. Bizarre.
But don't locked AT&T Lumias work on other networks? Just without LTE (and sometimes 3G) and MMS in most cases. So if I tell you, "sure, this phone will work on other networks", am I really lying. Or just not telling the truth.
AT&T pays cash for an "exclusive period" on a phone. They have every right to prevent you from doing whatever you choose with it till they say it's ok. I'm cool with that.
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I purchased a Lumia 900 from AT&T and threw a att.mvno sim in it, downloaded the Nokia Network Setup app from marketplace, configured it and everything works just great... very happy
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But don't locked AT&T Lumias work on other networks? Just without LTE (and sometimes 3G) and MMS in most cases.
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No man. Not sure where you got that idea. There have been numerous posts about this topic. Educate yourself.
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AT&T pays cash for an "exclusive period" on a phone. They have every right to prevent you from doing whatever you choose with it till they say it's ok. I'm cool with that.
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It doesn't give them the right to lie. If the salesperson says you may pay full price for this phone and we will unlock it so you can use it in Canada in October that is perfectly fine. A bit illogical but totally legal.
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So if I tell you, "sure, this phone will work on other networks", am I really lying. Or just not telling the truth.
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BOTH. Get a dictionary.
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I purchased a Lumia 900 from AT&T and threw a att.mvno sim in it, downloaded the Nokia Network Setup app from marketplace, configured it and everything works just great... very happy
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What in God's holy name does that have to do with this thread.
Hey guys, i might be buying a note 2 very soon .. I was just wondering if any of u got it unlocked? If yes then HOW MUCH DID YOU SPEND ..
Cellunlock.net offers it for 25$. Looking for some cheap alternatives !!
Call T-Mobile, and ask to have the phone unlocked. I had to fax them a receipt (a t-mobile one, which made no sense to me), along with my remedy trouble ticket number, and imei. They later sent me the unlock code. Free.
My store said they would do it for free after 30 days.
I paid the $25 because I didn't want to wait and I wanted to try it out on ATT.
i was thinking to buy a tmobile one and use it at my local network .. for that I need the unlock code .. 25$ is not what I am looking to spend ..
Again, it's free if you buy a t-mobile one and call their customer service to get the unlock code.
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Again, it's free if you buy a t-mobile one and call their customer service to get the unlock code.
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If they give you static, just tell them you plan to go overseas and need it unlocked for that.
I dont think they will give the code to a new contract !!
Tell them you are going out of the country, and if they won't budge contact me and I can get it unlocked for about $15.
Guys, chill out. There is really no need to be so concerned about unlock codes. I work for T-Mobile, and I want to offer some advice. Completely on my personal accord, not as part of my job with T-Mobile of course. Mind you, I will not do anything that violates any NDA or other agreement, contract, association that I have with T-Mobile, but I can offer the policy information, since it is not anything I wouldn't tell any other customer I talked to as part of the job.
Basically, if you buy a phone from T-Mobile you can get it unlocked, so long as you are at least 40 days into your account. Not contract, not tenure, but account. The account you are using the phone on has to have been open at least 40 days. You also have to have used the phone on that a line on that account. Meaning you made at least 1-2 minutes worth of phone calls.
Otherwise, assuming you bought it and do not want to use it on your account, you can send in proof of purchase that you bought it at full cost, or they can see on your account that you bought it. Phone purchases in store, just to address one earlier comment, do not always show the full receipt information (device, etc) and that is why a fax is required. Purchases made through customer care, online, or through telesales, are viewable through the proper phone team.
If you buy a phone at full cost and DO NOT have a T-Mobile account, you can get it unlocked by calling in and providing the imei number and they will submit the request. No faxing or any other hassle. Many agents are not aware of this exception in the policy because it does not come up all that often. So you may get someone on the line who is unaware and will swear up and down that it is not part of policy. I, personally, have had to spend time talking to managers who did not even know this part of policy. However, it is a part of a policy, and therefore is the easiest way to unlock the device.
There are other little minor things in policy, but most of what I have said is for the average buyer. Also, note that 'going overseas' is not any sort of exception to policy. If you do not meet the normal policy requirements, you could be going to the moon for all it matters and it would not be any reason to go outside of policy. The requests are completed by an offline team, and they are strict to policy. I have seen many customers get angry because "the store told me I could just call in and unlock it" or "I am going overseas in two days and that is why I bought the phone in the first place." If you say you are going overseas, then you will just be offered international roaming information for using T-Mobile overseas, or be told about cancelling your contract, paying any applicable ETF, and then getting the unlock request submitted in as part of the cancelled account part of the policy (which has its own set of requirements).
As a disclaimer I will say that while I work for T-Mobile, I am not writing this as part of any association with T-Mobile, and I do not condone any abuse of policy or misrepresentation in order to circumvent or manipulate policy. I also will not do anything outside of policy for anyone. I am unable to submit any unlock requests for anyone or call in for anyone or do anything of the such.
However, I do hope my advice helps.
The only real time to pay to get the device unlocked is if you just bought the phone at a discount, started a brand new T-Mobile account, and are under 40 days since activating your account.
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just to back phoenix up (thanks for the writeup btw) i've done this twice on Tmo
- 30+ days into my value plan and I requested the code for my s3, had it the next day in my email.
- paid full price for another s3, same thing, didn't have to wait at all, just called and requested the same day.
easy as pie.
Thanx phoenix... N other guys .. I will try to get it done from t mobile only ..
I purchased the phone outright from T-Mobile, did the fax thing the next day, and proceeded to wait about a week for the unlock team to get me my code. Glad I didn't need to have it with Solavei. Of course I found that out after the fact, lol!
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I purchased the phone outright from T-Mobile, did the fax thing the next day, and proceeded to wait about a week for the unlock team to get me my code. Glad I didn't need to have it with Solavei. Of course I found that out after the fact, lol!
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All carriers are required to unlock phones at the customers request, it was put into law a year ago or so. Same law that said jailbreaking/rooting is legal and cannot void a warranty. No one knows about it yet because it loses money for telecoms, but they can't refuse to unlock your phone because it is illegal to do so.
You do know there's a write up to unlock this phone for free right ?
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I have a T-Mobile s4, which is turned off due to non payment and I want to hook it up with another carrier. I tried the info given to unlock it but after I enter the number, it doesn't go to the screen shown on the video. Is there anything I can do besides pay T-Mobile?
Nope. I'm pretty sure that you have to have an active line to unlock.
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I have a T-Mobile s4, which is turned off due to non payment and I want to hook it up with another carrier. I tried the info given to unlock it but after I enter the number, it doesn't go to the screen shown on the video. Is there anything I can do besides pay T-Mobile?
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None payment of service or non payment on device?
Either which way your device is black listed. But if for non payment on device, technically device is stolen.
And either each way, this is probably a grey area to discuss on xda
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None payment of service or non payment on device?
Either which way your device is black listed. But if for non payment on device, technically device is stolen.
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Hi, thank you for getting back to me so soon. It is off due to non payment of the bill and i put down half on the phone, so i guess its for both. I lost my job and could not afford to pay anything to anyone until i got my unemployment, anyway i wonder if i will have a problem restoring the service when i get paid? Thanks again.
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ShinySide said:
None payment of service or non payment on device?
Either which way your device is black listed. But if for non payment on device, technically device is stolen.
And either each way, this is probably a grey area to discuss on xda
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I hope what you mean is that carrier locking of phones is borderline criminal. There is nothing morally wrong with unlocking your own phone. If you don't pay your electric bill, they don't confiscate your lights.
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I hope what you mean is that carrier locking of phones is borderline criminal. There is nothing morally wrong with unlocking your own phone. If you don't pay your electric bill, they don't confiscate your lights.
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Guess you dont understand what I meant by non payment on the phone. i.e. Tmos payment plan to pay off the phone. Which you are in a contract to pay off the device. And if you dont fulfill the contract....guess who legally owns it? Cant buy a car not pay the bank and say hey i dont bank with you anymore so now I own the car legally....
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Guess you dont understand what I meant by non payment on the phone. i.e. Tmos payment plan to pay off the phone. Which you are in a contract to pay off the device. And if you dont fulfill the contract....guess who legally owns it? Cant buy a car not pay the bank and say hey i dont bank with you anymore so now I own the car legally....
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Actually, it would be a little bit more like not paying your OnStar subscription fee and then having someone in a forum talk down to you like you stole the car because of it.
There is a huge difference here. The phone and the "contract" being intermingled with control over using the phone is nothing more than a tool to blackmail the customer into staying with the provider. T-Mobile's primary business is providing service for a monthly fee. I paid cash for my T-Mobile branded phone ($700+). But when I traveled abroad about a month later, they refused to unlock it because I had not had it with T-Mobile service yet for 40 days (although I have been with T-Mobile for at least a decade).
Like I said, when you don't pay your electric, they don't disable your lamps and your TV. They don't even come take your CFL bulbs that they subsidized. I get to use those bulbs with a windmill if I want to. When you don't pay your landline bill, they don't remotely disable your Panasonic cordless phone. If they COULD, they WOULD, but we wouldn't tolerate it. Unfortunately, there are people (like you) who have been lulled into thinking that this is OK when it comes to cell phones. Being a Senior Member, I think you should set a better example and use your critical thinking - and not simply imply that someone who didn't pay their cell bill shouldn't even be discussing it in public.
That was my point - indicating that you're not even sure if it should be discussed here is a bit dramatic - the guy isn't trying to screw anyone - just exploring his options. He paid for half of the phone up front, and paid for service for somewhere between 0 and 2 years. If anyone has been screwed, it's him by being held hostage.
A cell phone and a financed automobile are in different ballparks, my friend. I think you know that.
Mike
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Actually, it would be a little bit more like not paying your OnStar subscription fee and then having someone in a forum talk down to you like you stole the car because of it.
There is a huge difference here. The phone and the "contract" being intermingled with control over using the phone is nothing more than a tool to blackmail the customer into staying with the provider. T-Mobile's primary business is providing service for a monthly fee. I paid cash for my T-Mobile branded phone ($700+). But when I traveled abroad about a month later, they refused to unlock it because I had not had it with T-Mobile service yet for 40 days (although I have been with T-Mobile for at least a decade).
Like I said, when you don't pay your electric, they don't disable your lamps and your TV. They don't even come take your CFL bulbs that they subsidized. I get to use those bulbs with a windmill if I want to. When you don't pay your landline bill, they don't remotely disable your Panasonic cordless phone. If they COULD, they WOULD, but we wouldn't tolerate it. Unfortunately, there are people (like you) who have been lulled into thinking that this is OK when it comes to cell phones. Being a Senior Member, I think you should set a better example and use your critical thinking - and not simply imply that someone who didn't pay their cell bill shouldn't even be discussing it in public.
That was my point - indicating that you're not even sure if it should be discussed here is a bit dramatic - the guy isn't trying to screw anyone - just exploring his options. He paid for half of the phone up front, and paid for service for somewhere between 0 and 2 years. If anyone has been screwed, it's him by being held hostage.
A cell phone and a financed automobile are in different ballparks, my friend. I think you know that.
Mike
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Ahaha Okay so according to your logic, Everyone go to Tmobile Only put a down payment down then run off with the phone and you legally own it. Sounds so legit and logical. Their not going to unlock a phone they legally own because some one didnt pay it off. Or unlock your phone for you when you owe them money. Nor let you use it on their service under a different account. Why? Because everyone will just rack their bill up then just open a new account so they dont have to pay that racked up bill off. Obviously you dont understand how a business and contracts work. Hes not being "held hostage" he/she just isnt going to receive a service (ie unlock code) when he/she owes money.
Is but same logic. Dont pay your phone, no unlock code. Dont pay your note, No title. As far as your 40 day problem? (And its actually 90) No where lets you buy phones out right, unlock them right away and walk away free without service. They'd lose money and wouldnt be a service but just a cell phone dealer. If you want to do that go buy a factory unlocked which costs even more then one locked to a carrier then you dont have to worry about whinning and crying you cant unlock your phone when you dont pay your bill, fulfill a contract, or fulfill the terms of service you signed when you purchased the device.
Anyways you think its cool to unlock and "run off" with a phone that isnt paid in full and money is owed on, and I dont. We can just leave it at that.
OT but actually its 7 or 14 days service needed to get it unlocked once its paid in full, I don't remember exactly but its one of those. I called T-Mobile a few months ago and that's what they told me.. It might be a recent change
Hi all,
Just got a 3 XL, bought it from a Best Buy marketplace seller in Canada, said it was unlocked but when I put my sim in says contact network to unlock, nothing about entering a code like I've seen on locked phones before.
Contacted Sprint in US who found it from the EMEI and say it's not eligable for unlocking as it's either stolen or someone stopped paying their contract and sold it.
Is there any way of unlocking still or am I going to have to return it?
Thanks!
kaligula1234 said:
Hi all,
Just got a 3 XL, bought it from a Best Buy marketplace seller in Canada, said it was unlocked but when I put my sim in says contact network to unlock, nothing about entering a code like I've seen on locked phones before.
Contacted Sprint in US who found it from the EMEI and say it's not eligable for unlocking as it's either stolen or someone stopped paying their contract and sold it.
Is there any way of unlocking still or am I going to have to return it?
Thanks!
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I would return it. Sprint isn't going to release a contract phone.
ktmom said:
I would return it. Sprint isn't going to release a contract phone.
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Damnit, thanks tho
kaligula1234 said:
Damnit, thanks tho
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he is correct. per sprint policy device needs to b paid in full and active for 50 days and acct needs to b in good standing before theyll unlock a device.
not to mention sounds like u dunno who the previous owners were. Sprint cannot provide u with any specific information attached to the previous owner for security reasons. This means u cant find out how much is owed or who to contact or anything.
Also to add, this sounds very suspicious.. ur saying a best buy retailer sold u a sprint device that was blacklisted or not paid off by another person? I would take it back n get ur money lol i nvr heard of them selling devices that r attached to someone else with unpaid balance or w.e the case is...if they took it in a trade or something they usually will check to see if its free and clear to avoid these types of situations..
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Also to add, this sounds very suspicious.. ur saying a best buy retailer sold u a sprint device that was blacklisted or not paid off by another person? ...
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It was said that it was bought from a marketplace seller. Not BestBuy directly. Kinda like buying from a third party seller off Amazon
I switched from T-mobile to Verizon thinking that I could just continue paying the monthly installments and use it on the Verizon network. Now I am paying $30/mo for a phone that doesn't work on my network. There are a bunch of sites that claim to unlock your device but they very widely in price. Does anyone have experience using a service like this? Any suggestions on which to use?
Try to find a free method. A lot of the sites are legit, but I can not vouch for specific one?
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Try to find a free method. A lot of the sites are legit, but I can not vouch for specific one?
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I didn't come across any free options, but some were up to $120!
A lot of them overcharg. If you can pay with something like PayPal which you can request a refund for, do so.
Tale a reletivly cheap one with good reviews on a known reviewing site.
Arealhooman said:
A lot of them overcharg. If you can pay with something like PayPal which you can request a refund for, do so.
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That's a good idea
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Tale a reletivly cheap one with good reviews on a known reviewing site.
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That's what I had been doing, I just thought I would throw it out there on here to see if anyone had first hand exoerience
I have use SIMDoctor in the past, you can usually find a coupon code or something to get it cheaper.
I am trying to find an unlock for AT&T right now, going overseas for 6+ months and I'm not spending $1,800 for their garbage "Day Passes", and it's financed so they won't unlock it.
Unfortunately, at least for AT&T, none of these unlocking services have the unlock codes. Seems like AT&T went out of their way to make sure people can't unlock early.
Thank goodness that the U.K. banned carrier locked phones a year ago...
Mobile companies now banned from selling locked handsets
Mobile phone companies are now banned from selling customers locked handsets, under new Ofcom rules that come into force today (17 December 2021).
www.ofcom.org.uk
Such a rip-off that you cannot use your mobile on the carrier of your choice and get the best and cheapest plans.
Conzo427 said:
I switched from T-mobile to Verizon thinking that I could just continue paying the monthly installments and use it on the Verizon network. Now I am paying $30/mo for a phone that doesn't work on my network. There are a bunch of sites that claim to unlock your device but they very widely in price. Does anyone have experience using a service like this? Any suggestions on which to use?
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The only option is to have the carrier unlock the phone. I was able to convince them to unlock it!
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I have use SIMDoctor in the past, you can usually find a coupon code or something to get it cheaper.
I am trying to find an unlock for AT&T right now, going overseas for 6+ months and I'm not spending $1,800 for their garbage "Day Passes", and it's financed so they won't unlock it.
Unfortunately, at least for AT&T, none of these unlocking services have the unlock codes. Seems like AT&T went out of their way to make sure people can't
I have use SIMDoctor in the past, you can usually find a coupon code or something to get it cheaper.
I am trying to find an unlock for AT&T right now, going overseas for 6+ months and I'm not spending $1,800 for their garbage "Day Passes", and it's financed so they won't unlock it.
Unfortunately, at least for AT&T, none of these unlocking services have the unlock codes. Seems like AT&T went out of their way to make sure people can't unlock early.
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That should be one of the special requests that you can get them to unlock it if the phone is paid off or not, have you tried calling and letting them know you have to leave the country for work? It's worth a shot sense it should be free
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That should be one of the special requests that you can get them to unlock it if the phone is paid off or not, have you tried calling and letting them know you have to leave the country for work? It's worth a shot sense it should be free
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Yeah; They gave me two options, pay for "Day Pass" (roughly $1,800 if I stay as long as I'm scheduled) or pay off the phone ($1,600). If I pay off the phone, I was told they'd remove my trade in promotion credits (which was $1,000).
I should have known not to buy a phone from AT&T...
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Yeah; They gave me two options, pay for "Day Pass" (roughly $1,800 if I stay as long as I'm scheduled) or pay off the phone ($1,600). If I pay off the phone, I was told they'd remove my trade in promotion credits (which was $1,000).
I should have known not to buy a phone from AT&T...
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Huh strange, then I wonder what you would have to prove if you were tell them hypothetically you were get shipped out over seas in the military, or is it because it looks like they have been venturing out to other countries now with there service I suppose that could be, but as well if you wanted to you can find alot of the the software the company's use online,
https://www.google.com/urlsa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiOrL_nmf_7AhVTMUQIHXOxBtIQFnoECA0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbestflashfile.com%2F&usg=AOvVaw0B4j1ov5QOGtKarkaHEqBr
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Huh strange, then I wonder what you would have to prove if you were tell them hypothetically you were get shipped out over seas in the military, or is it because it looks like they have been venturing out to other countries now with there service I suppose that could be, but as well if you wanted to you can find alot of the the software the company's use online,
https://www.google.com/urlsa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiOrL_nmf_7AhVTMUQIHXOxBtIQFnoECA0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbestflashfile.com%2F&usg=AOvVaw0B4j1ov5QOGtKarkaHEqBr
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If you were going for active duty, then a copy of your orders will do it. I'm just going for work, so they see me as a bucket of free money.
That Google link must not have copied/pasted right, it comes back with a 404.
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If you were going for active duty, then a copy of your orders will do it. I'm just going for work, so they see me as a bucket of free money.
That Google link must not have copied/pasted right, it comes back with a 404.
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Yea I figured they must have changed lot, and yes I'll verify it otherwise it's called best flash file
https://bestflashfile.com/ there is a app in the place store a s well
Any better unlocking service to unlock z fold 4 currently locked with Att... Please help...