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Anyone ever think about porting Palm's Web OS over to the Touch Pro 2?
Was just curious is all...

People have thought of porting WebOS to various devices, but the biggest obstacle is that it's not open source. It's based on the Linux kernel, and people actually have gotten it to partially boot using HaRET, but AFAIK it's not going to be easy, if at all possible, to port WebOS if we don't have the source to work with. I personally would love a WebOS port, but I'm not holding my breath on that.

i doubt it would work right without a capacitive touch screen. the button configuration is also off. and theres no rotation so dont expect it to twist when you kick the keyboard out. i still say android is the best option for a different os.

[Q] Ubuntu for Wildfire

Hi all
Theres an app on the play store which is an installer for ubuntu for android
"What is this?
This is a customized Ubuntu 10.10 image optimized for the ARM processor (the processor android runs on). This will allow you to run a full Ubuntu system within android (You can still make calls, text, and use android without having to reboot your phone!)."
Has anyone tried this, i know we dont meet the recomendations for the app but i was wondering if anyone has given it a go and whats it like?
Possibly a future port for TeamBuzz

Won't work.
Requires an ARMv7 processor.
What it does is it starts up ubuntu using chroot, then you use a VNC client to connect to it.
(It's really slow on my tablet)

Arwww I love Ubuntu on my Laptop
Oh well just throwing the idea out there

Running Ubuntu Touch as host OS and Android as Guest os with KVM on the Nexus 10

Hello.
My name is Mario. I'm a computer hobbyist. Recently I've bought the nexus 10. This project wants to virtualize android with kvm on top of ubuntu touch on the nexus 10. Someone has already did the most of the job,as you can see here :
http://www.virtualopensystems.com/media/chromebook/chromebook.pdf
they have used the arm chromebook,but IF I don't get wrong,it uses the same board,the exynos 5 with 2 arm cpu's. The only difference between the arm chromebook and the nexus 10 is the boot procedure. Virtual Open System did a proof of concept. They did not complete the project. In particular these features are missing :
Guest Sound support
A way to assign USB devices to the guest
Hardware acceleration
chroot integration in the default OS to achieve better integration with ubuntu
so the project that I would like to start wants to add these features to what virtual open systems did right now.
I know that usually Android run as Host OS and Ubuntu as guest os,but I think that Android is not a secure / powerful OS as Linux. I don't want to use it as HOST OS,but only as GUEST. Tell me what's your point of view. Thanks.
XDA:DevDB Information
Android and Ubuntu Touch on the Nexus 10 run together, a Kernel for the Google Nexus 10
Contributors
marietto2008
Kernel Special Features:
Version Information
Status: Testing
Created 2013-11-26
Last Updated 2013-12-05

I've been wanting to a Linux tablet for years. I'm actually holding out for the Microsoft Surface Pro to liquidate stock for $300 or so if that ever happens.
The problem I see with Linux running on the Nexus 10 is its 2 GB of memory, especially for any type of VM you want to run.
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I've been wanting to a Linux tablet for years. I'm actually holding out for the Microsoft Surface Pro to liquidate stock for $300 or so if that ever happens.
The problem I see with Linux running on the Nexus 10 is its 2 GB of memory, especially for any type of VM you want to run.
But yes, this project of running Linux out right on the tablet could work very well with a stripped down OS so not to take up too much room.
I really wished Google put a memory card on these things.

Looks like someone from Samsung has done something like this with the Xen port for ARM
http://vimeo.com/78023395

Technically speaking,which kind of way do you like between the multi-rom or the virtualization solution ? And what's the best virtualization tool between KVM and XEN ?

Someone is interested to work on this project ? It could be posted on Indiegogo..

http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian

d me going there with that headline,
im keen to try ubuntu touch on my N10,
I would think ( im not a android or linux , or any other kind of prog/ eng.) that a dualboot or multirom solution would be better than virtualisation, esp on low resource machine. each rom runs on its own so no sharing of common resources?, just my uneducated guess, but Ill keep an eye on this thread,
like to see what the final, or working solution is.
great efforts , thanks
stuie

stuartb88 said:
d me going there with that headline,
im keen to try ubuntu touch on my N10,
I would think ( im not a android or linux , or any other kind of prog/ eng.) that a dualboot or multirom solution would be better than virtualisation, esp on low resource machine. each rom runs on its own so no sharing of common resources?, just my uneducated guess, but Ill keep an eye on this thread,
like to see what the final, or working solution is.
great efforts , thanks
stuie
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I'll save you the trouble... You flash the entire ROM over your firmware (don't worry, you can revert back to Android by flashing the firmware back).
When I ran Ubuntu Touch on my Next 10, it was... HORRIBLE. The extreme lag and performance issues made it utterly useless. Completely useless. This was about 6 months ago.
Went back and am running latest Android now, nice and speedy.

Tried Ubuntu touch as well. If Touch had been a full x86 Ubuntu experience, maybe I'd use it for a while. But it's Ubuntu with even less software than regular Ubuntu/Lunux.
So back to Android. ��
If you want to try it you can follow this guide:
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/sta...installing-ubuntu-for-devices/#install-ubuntu

Ubuntu Touch rom?

Is there any dev out there that would be interested in bringing Ubuntu touch to our ZF2?
Quite an interesting OS and seems like it would fit in great with the x86 CPU we have available to us.
I know there are other threads requesting this no dev responded to it saying if it would be feasible or impossible to do so.

I like to do it , but you know our device is a x86-64 and ubuntu touch is a project for ARM arch , I'll check it if there is any chance !
but if you want linux in your device you can use kali nethunter , that i am makeing flashable zip for zf2 with say99's help and support .
it is based on debian just like ubuntu ...

miradli said:
I like to do it , but you know our device is a x86-64 and ubuntu touch is a project for ARM arch , I'll check it if there is any chance !
but if you want linux in your device you can use kali nethunter , that i am makeing flashable zip for zf2 with say99's help and support .
it is based on debian just like ubuntu ...
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Thank you as long as it is attempted, I'll be happy.
Yes I have tried many of those other methods for running Linux but none work for the 16gb Ze551ml as apparently Linux deploy can't use the external SD card.
I'll definitely try out yours when it is ready!

Christopher876 said:
Thank you as long as it is attempted, I'll be happy.
Yes I have tried many of those other methods for running Linux but none work for the 16gb Ze551ml as apparently Linux deploy can't use the external SD card.
I'll definitely try out yours when it is ready!
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now you can try it , the flashable zip file are here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/development/kali-nethunter-t3329426/post65669770#post65669770

Christopher876 said:
Is there any dev out there that would be interested in bringing Ubuntu touch to our ZF2?
Quite an interesting OS and seems like it would fit in great with the x86 CPU we have available to us.
I know there are other threads requesting this no dev responded to it saying if it would be feasible or impossible to do so.
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I know alot of you guys want ubuntu touch on the zenfone just for something different but its not worth it considering all the work that would have to be put into it just "to try something new". ubuntu touch is miles behind android

All other ubuntu phones are ARM based - if you'd try, this would be the first one on an intel chipset. I imagine there are a lot of things broken in the x64 version of the code since no one's really using it. If you do, please do check out ubports.com which has other open source ports of android device.
Personally, i own a BQ Aquarius 4.5 with ubuntu touch because i was interested enough to want to play around with it. It is a functional OS, but it lags heavily in apps. The OS is also very tightly screwed down - every app must run in user space with only write access to the user home. Interaction is limited through the ubuntu service layer, which means its quite difficult to code an app for say - whatsapp - because the service layer must sit in between you and the whatsapp API.
The major promise of Ubuntu is the convergent future - where the phone or tablet can actually run the full ubuntu API with access to all regular ubuntu apps, either old (sandboxed in lxc/lxd) or new (running natively). The zenfone can definately run both but it lacks the usb c and mhl connectivity to drive a screen directly; perhaps when miracast is implemented properly in ubuntu OS it may become interesting to port. Until then, I'm not sure its worth the effort and all the x64 bughunting.

Niropa said:
I know alot of you guys want ubuntu touch on the zenfone just for something different but its not worth it considering all the work that would have to be put into it just "to try something new". ubuntu touch is miles behind android
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Rogier Oudshoorn said:
All other ubuntu phones are ARM based - if you'd try, this would be the first one on an intel chipset. I imagine there are a lot of things broken in the x64 version of the code since no one's really using it. If you do, please do check out ubports.com which has other open source ports of android device.
Personally, i own a BQ Aquarius 4.5 with ubuntu touch because i was interested enough to want to play around with it. It is a functional OS, but it lags heavily in apps. The OS is also very tightly screwed down - every app must run in user space with only write access to the user home. Interaction is limited through the ubuntu service layer, which means its quite difficult to code an app for say - whatsapp - because the service layer must sit in between you and the whatsapp API.
The major promise of Ubuntu is the convergent future - where the phone or tablet can actually run the full ubuntu API with access to all regular ubuntu apps, either old (sandboxed in lxc/lxd) or new (running natively). The zenfone can definately run both but it lacks the usb c and mhl connectivity to drive a screen directly; perhaps when miracast is implemented properly in ubuntu OS it may become interesting to port. Until then, I'm not sure its worth the effort and all the x64 bughunting.
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I see. From these two answers it just isn't worth the work so I think just waiting is the best option and seeing if Ubuntu Touch develops more and if they support x86.
Never understood that this was the reason and I had always thought that it would be logical for Ubuntu Touch to support x86 rather than ARM. Thanks for these answers and clearing things up!

You're right that it might have made sense for Canonical to build on top of x64 primarily, but i believe they started the project in 2013 before there were any intel based phones on the market. Perhaps if ASUS and intel were quicker, it would have been

[Q] Anyone tried building/compiling Android for Windows RT devices?

Recently I installed Windows 10 RT on my Surface RT.
I think it's better than the Windows 8 RT and most people can agree on that.
Even after having W10 OA, there are not many apps available for this device.
I was wondering if anyone successfully built a version of android that ran on ARM Windows devices. I would like to build one compatible for the Surface RT but there are no kernel sources or device trees available. Also, there is no way to flash it with a conventional flash tool. Therefore, it cannot be built this way. But has anyone tried compiling android x86 but for ARM?
If yes, in which way did you build it?
Or if you built it in another way, in which way did you build it?
I am very interested in building a version for our Surface RT so we can finally get somewhere and get support for almost all of the apps in the android world

alexenferman said:
Recently I installed Windows 10 RT on my Surface RT.
I think it's better than the Windows 8 RT and most people can agree on that.
Even after having W10 OA, there are not many apps available for this device.
I was wondering if anyone successfully built a version of android that ran on ARM Windows devices. I would like to build one compatible for the Surface RT but there are no kernel sources or device trees available. Also, there is no way to flash it with a conventional flash tool. Therefore, it cannot be built this way. But has anyone tried compiling android x86 but for ARM?
If yes, in which way did you build it?
Or if you built it in another way, in which way did you build it?
I am very interested in building a version for our Surface RT so we can finally get somewhere and get support for almost all of the apps in the android world
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Sounds like a good idea, another option would be to look into the Linux4Tegra side of things, I'm not sure if it supports the Tegra 4 in the Surface2 but if it does we might have some interesting things to draw out of it...

AlGaib said:
Sounds like a good idea, another option would be to look into the Linux4Tegra side of things, I'm not sure if it supports the Tegra 4 in the Surface2 but if it does we might have some interesting things to draw out of it...
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Actually, there are suprisingly still people working on linux: https://forum.xda-developers.com/wi...-secure-boot-linux-surface-rt-t3653848/page12
First we have to get linux and then we can adapt the kernel and drivers to run android. There are very similar tablets running android like the ASUS Transformer Pad TF502T. If we use this kernel tree and build a device tree, we should get it working. I would try Lineage OS and TWRP. I think we can get maximum android Nougat for this tablet, after that, because of big kernel changes on android oreo+, we have to modify it even more. Forget about android X86. It's not a great idea.
I have compiled android custom roms before, but with all of the sources ready. In this case, we have to build a lot.
CrackTheSurface said:
Android is only a colorful touchy surface which is based on Linux, so at very first we must get Linux running.
The SoC(System on Chip) Tegra3 has Linux kernel mainline support so driver support shouldn't be that much of a problem (I am an optimist :fingers-crossed. Display output should also be possible as far as i know it uses Display Serial Interface (DSI) and is directly connected to the SoC.
The attachable keyboard is connected via i2c HID, which has also Linux kernel suppport. HDMI should also be supported out of box by the kernel. Touchscreen, WiFi, Audio, Bluetooth are the main problem points.
But now must start getting the kernel to run with an command line interface (CLI).
And installing the nvidia graphics drivers and multimedia codecs
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If anyone wants to help with linux, please do it.