As most of us will have noticed, removing the battery cover is kind of scary and I was wondering if there were any experts on the subject that could enlighten us on whether or not the cover pins will break off in the long run.
For all we know it could be designed to be pretty solid even though it feels frail.
Had the phone for about 3 months along with 2 batteries. This led me to change battery at least once every two day which would equate to 45 openings. But I've changed rom and pulled the battery so many times that I'm sure I've opened the phone at least 100 times, probably 150, or even 200.
I've also never be too careful with the phone and its cover.
At this moment the cover seems to hold very well. The only apparent defect is that, while on, if you push quite hard the right part of the cover, in the middle part, it creaks a bit. I'm actually surprised it hasn't broke already, but I'm ready to shell 20€ to replace it if in some months it will make horrible sounds, given the ridicuolous frequency at which I pull it.
I was wondering what role the back cover of the note 4 is for?
Mostly asking because I might have ruined it when I was trying to put this stupid carbon fiber skin on it -_-;; Why did I think using a hair dryer would be okay... *face desk On the bright side, I'm pretty sure I exposed only the back cover to heat and not the phone itself lol d: If I did I'm dumb and don't deserve this phone >->
Anyways, I think I've accidentally ruined the back cover of my droid inc4g and the phone just never worked the same after x_x The signal sucked and the battery stopped holding a charge... x: I'm using an s-cover case on my note 4 at the moment, but still curious in case I ever decide to use something else for protection s:
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Samsung even makes a flip cover case where you remove the back completely, you don't have to worry about the cover.
However, if there was any damage to the phone itself, but they take some pretty good heat.
I live in SoCal and left it a couple times in my car and it was like 107 outside, so!
Check out ebay. You can get all kinds of back replacement plates at good deals.
Eve b customized ones if you prefer
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Samsung even makes a flip cover case where you remove the back completely, you don't have to worry about the cover.
However, if there was any damage to the phone itself, but they take some pretty good heat.
I live in SoCal and left it a couple times in my car and it was like 107 outside, so!
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Probably should let this thread die but...
What is this part of the back cover for? Never really found out I think.. or I just have bad memory :silly:
107? I live I Phoenix and just going outside exposes the phone to 117+ on a regular basis. Heck I have even mistakenly left my phone in the car before and it gets 160+ easy in there. I bet it will be ok
Working fine and when I turned it on this morning flashes amazon logo over and over
Dead battery, go buy a new one from Amazon or Ebay for about $20. There are various guides on how to replace the battery, it's fairly straightforward.
See this post for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72663172&postcount=5
But yes, as just mentioned above you'll need to replace the battery - there's no other solution, it's not a problem with the phone itself, it's the battery specifically as I tried to explain in that post I just provided a link for.
Replacing it isn't seriously difficult overall, just need a very tiny Torx bit (not sure what the number is, I think it's a T2 or T3) for the two screws on the bottom of the phone then a spudger/spacer or even a guitar pick to separate the back cover off the device - don't ever use metal objects like knives or whatever to do that kind of stuff, just asking for trouble.
The hardest thing about replacing the battery is physically removing it from the phone itself because Foxconn (the company that manufactured the Fire Phone for Amazon) chose to use not only a LOT of adhesive under the battery but some really nasty incredibly sticky adhesive as well so it's quite difficult to get it out. Using a hair dryer on medium or something to warm up the battery - but don't make it HOT, just use medium and get it warmed up - can help significantly with the removal as the heat will soften the adhesive.
Take your time and be patient and inside 20-30 minutes it'll be like a new phone once again with good battery life overall.
Has anyone replaced your battery on tab s2 where you source it?
You can find New Samsung ones on ebay for around 10 English pounds.
Easy job to replace too. Takes around 5 to 10 minutes.
Just loosen the back with a sucker then go round edge with Guitar pick.
Couldn't get back off fully from the Camera, but you can easily get out the battery by flexing the back open gently.
Battery stuck down with a few spots of glue but easily popped out with the guitar pick.
Back popped right back in.... Bit of play on the back so not as water resistant as before. No issue if you use in a case for me.
Beats the 30% wear on the battery after just 14 months.
Forgot to mention, I have the 8 inch version SM-713
I looked around ebay and amazon. Those Chinese man probably selling used ones pretending to be new. Is there any reliable source for really new ones? Thx.
hi anyone here?
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hi anyone here?
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Try Amazon. I just replaced the battery in my T713
I’ve replaced mine twice and sent back three or four batteries.
As far as I can tell, it next to impossible to get a good battery and original is completely unattainable.
So far I have never found a decent battery.
I've asked the local Samsung support a few months ago, it cost, in usd, ~$50, so I sold the tablet instead
Anybody who has done the replacement have any issue getting the back cover back on? I broke a couple of the clips off and can't find a replacement back. I'm hesitant to glue the back together in case this battery takes a dump. I am using double sided tape that came with a screen replacement kit but it is still pretty easy to peel the back off.
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Anybody who has done the replacement have any issue getting the back cover back on? I broke a couple of the clips off and can't find a replacement back. I'm hesitant to glue the back together in case this battery takes a dump. I am using double sided tape that came with a screen replacement kit but it is still pretty easy to peel the back off.
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Is this about the 8" version? The 9.7" version needs to have the screen removed, mid-plate unfastened (16 tiny philips screws, including 2 easy to miss ones w flat-black heads).
I've just replaced my battery, the one that was in there was an OEM Samsung but my screen was glued on w black 4mm tape that covered one of the mid-plate screws, so I dunno if this was the original battery.
I replaced mine because I was getting 'storms' of reboots, thought the battery might be the issue (FWIW, still getting the same reboots post-battery-replacement.)
FWIW, I already had a killer suction cup on hand (from a RAM mount setup), these thin pry/cut tools https://www.fixez.com/categories/repair-tools/pry-tools/qianli-stainless-steel-ultrathin-pry-tool made it easy to get the screen off.
I also had an industrial quality heat gun to soften the glue, but that turned out to be unnecessary (you might need one if you start with your tablet cold)
I just changed the Battery on my T813.
It started to do some odd things, like rebooting even though there was plenty of charge or simply discharging to flat from 100% in a few hours without being used.
I got this from amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KSZCDCB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it was a breeze to fit, back cover came of really easily after the initial poke around at one of the top corners (camera end)
No screws to undo, no adhesive, once that corner popped up (using the knife seen in pic 1) it was very easy
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undo the connector cable, undo the 4 screws, remove
replacement is the reverse, and pop the case back on
Holds charge better, doesn't run out while using and as yet, no random reboots
In 2023 is it possible to buy brand new battery for SM T813?
I'm looking for people who have had the phone between 1.5-2.5 years. What I'd like to know is approximate screen off battery life you are getting after around 2 years of use vs when new. For me I was getting 2 days new and I'm down to about 14 hours now.
Once you have gotten down to less than 80% of the Li's original capacity it is degraded and has reached it's useful lifespan.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail. A failed Li can damage the display, even destroy the phone.
Any bulging ie battery swelling is a failure... if so replace asap.
Replace it, it's time.
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Once you have gotten down to less than 80% of the Li's original capacity it is degraded and has reached it's useful lifespan.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail. A failed Li can damage the display, even destroy the phone.
Any bulging ie battery swelling is a failure... if so replace asap.
Replace it, it's time.
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I know I already got my battery replaced but it didn't help so I suspect the store lied to me and actually couldn't get the battery out. They told me I need a new mainboard now. I don't believe them, I've ran benchmarks and my phone is still above average compared to other G8's. I'm curious if it's potentially some kind of planned obsolescence though if they actually put a new battery in. Hense why I'm trying to gather some data.
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Once you have gotten down to less than 80% of the Li's original capacity it is degraded and has reached it's useful lifespan.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail. A failed Li can damage the display, even destroy the phone.
Any bulging ie battery swelling is a failure... if so replace asap.
Replace it, it's time.
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I'm calling the store and going back in tomorrow. Any chance you can give me a hand? If you have a G8 I'd like to know if you are still getting good battery life and how long you've had your phone for?
What's wrong with this forum? I remember years ago when it was a community and everyone would help each other... Im asking for simple information and people just read it without replying....
Meh the younger gen...
Look up the tear down vid for it.
I got a Note 10+, once you know how to do it and the tools, the battery isn't that hard in spite its horrible tear down ratings.
So yours probably isn't that tough.
That's not the mobo... get a better repair house.
The replacement battery was old, inferior quality or incorrect p/n. That sucks...
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Meh the younger gen...
Look up the tear down vid for it.
I got a Note 10+, once you know how to do it and the tools, the battery isn't that hard in spite its horrible tear down ratings.
So yours probably isn't that tough.
That's not the mobo... get a better repair house.
The replacement battery was old, inferior quality or incorrect p/n. That sucks...
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yea man no kidding. They offered to refund my labor and put the other battery back in. I suspect they didn't even put the battery in though. I've already watched the JerryRigEverything teardown. He had to bend the battery. That's actually why I took it into a shop instead of did it myself. I didn't wanna burn down my apartment if the battery catches fire. I've fixed several phones before but the permanent adhesive on the battery made me reluctant. I installed accubattery and it says I was in deep sleep for 99% of screen off time but lost 31% of the battery in 4 hours of screen off. I really dont thin they swapped the battery, even if there was an issue with the mobo or something a new battery make it somewhat better compared to 2 yr old battery. I'm gonna get what money back I can and try to replace myself or find a shop that will let me watch them I think.
I feel you. I'll likely do the next battery replacement on my Note 10+ myself!
Use a syringe or dropper with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol to loosen the back cover* and... battery adhesive. No need to bend the battery; this can also damage the display!
Take your time, no rush!
Discharge the battery to as little as possible before replacing. Unplug it as soon as practical.
If you do let the repair idiots do it may sure they know what they're doing!
Replace rear cover seal with a OEM replacement not double sided adhesive if at all possible.
*a hot plate or heat gun is generally used for this as a primary but isopropyl can be supplemented as needed. Don't go too nuts with it. If it can get between the display and glass don't let it as it may leave a residue mark.
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I feel you. I'll likely do the next battery replacement on my Note 10+ myself!
Use a syringe or dropper with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol to loosen the back cover* and... battery adhesive. No need to bend the battery; this can also damage the display!
Take your time, no rush!
Discharge the battery to as little as possible before replacing. Unplug it as soon as practical.
If you do let the repair idiots do it may sure they know what they're doing!
Replace rear cover seal with a OEM replacement not double sided adhesive if at all possible.
*a hot plate or heat gun is generally used for this as a primary but isopropyl can be supplemented as needed. Don't go too nuts with it. If it can get between the display and glass don't let it as it may leave a residue mark.
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I don't think you're understanding that LG put permanent adhesive behind the battery on the G8. It's nearly impossible to get it out without bending it. I just got back from the store and they said they bent the old one slightly with the tools recommended by LG. It looked like they did replace the battery as the old one had some adhesive marks on it. So either they put a bad battery in or there's another issue. They refunded half my money, 50 of 100 bucks. I'm trying to decide now if I should buy a different battery and try it or just get a new phone.
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I don't think you're understanding that LG put permanent adhesive behind the battery on the G8. It's nearly impossible to get it out without bending it. I just got back from the store and they said they bent the old one slightly with the tools recommended by LG. It looked like they did replace the battery as the old one had some adhesive marks on it. So either they put a bad battery in or there's another issue. They refunded half my money, 50 of 100 bucks. I'm trying to decide now if I should buy a different battery and try it or just get a new phone.
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There's no such thing as a permanent adhesive.
At the worst one on the substrates it's bonded to will give way before the bond breaks ie "permanent".
If it's double sided adhesive strips anhydrous isopropyl alcohol and slow, careful prying will dislodge it. May take an hour of apply, wait, pry up a small section, repeat. No hurry.
If it's a urethane adhesive it will be a b*tch. Not effected by isopropyl or heat. Patience and the right tools make the difference.
It can be cut! Razor blade, surgical blades, etc. Just don't damage what's underneath it!
Discharge until phone auto shutdown. It will still have a charge but only a very small fraction of what it normally has. Not sure how much thermal energy it can generate in this state but it should be small.
The battery is basically a bag; the outer plastic bag seals and contains the actual battery which is spiral wound like a capacitor. It is possible to remove it from the outer bag if that helps but try to avoid it.
I've dissected one before... no big deal. You don't want the solvent electrolyte of the battery getting into the phone though. It evaporates very slowly.
Use gravity, a cotton cloth or shop vac* to prevent this if it happens. There's only a few drops of it anyway, but be ready for it. Smells fruity and funky sort of cherry like Not very dangerous but limit exposure without going nuts about it.
Research it more of course, but it certainly is replaceable. Get a game plan on and go for it.
Or sent it to a repair center that specializes in doing these phone.
If you like it, repair and keep it
*controlled suction, right? Don't suck the whole phone up, find a way limit the suction ie a small attached tube. Fun times, right?
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There's no such thing as a permanent adhesive.
At the worst one on the substrates it's bonded to will give way before the bond breaks ie "permanent".
If it's double sided adhesive strips anhydrous isopropyl alcohol and slow, careful prying will dislodge it. May take an hour of apply, wait, pry up a small section, repeat. No hurry.
If it's a urethane adhesive it will be a b*tch. Not effected by isopropyl or heat. Patience and the right tools make the difference.
It can be cut! Razor blade, surgical blades, etc. Just don't damage what's underneath it!
Discharge until phone auto shutdown. It will still have a charge but only a very small fraction of what it normally has. Not sure how much thermal energy it can generate in this state but it should be small.
The battery is basically a bag; the outer plastic bag seals and contains the actual battery which is spiral wound like a capacitor. It is possible to remove it from the outer bag if that helps but try to avoid it.
I've dissected one before... no big deal. You don't want the solvent electrolyte of the battery getting into the phone though. It evaporates very slowly.
Use gravity, a cotton cloth or shop vac* to prevent this if it happens. There's only a few drops of it anyway, but be ready for it. Smells fruity and funky sort of cherry like Not very dangerous but limit exposure without going nuts about it.
Research it more of course, but it certainly is replaceable. Get a game plan on and go for it.
Or sent it to a repair center that specializes in doing these phone.
If you like it, repair and keep it
*controlled suction, right? Don't suck the whole phone up, find a way limit the suction ie a small attached tube. Fun times, right!
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I meant they call it permanent adhesive. I'm considering buying a 3rd party battery and doing myself at this point but I'm trying to think of ways to verify that it's actually the battery. If there's a bigger problem I'll probably just buy a new phone. The battery he showed me did look like it was removed from a phone unless he just knew I would look at it and made a few marks on it. I kind of let on that I was suspicious on the phone before I went in. He also offered to put it back in and refund my money but I was like I don't want a battery in my phone you pryed on and might explode on me and he refunded half my money but didn't put the "old" battery back in. According to him there's a new battery from LG in the phone right now but he said it might have been sitting around for a while... I'm a little frustrated at the whole situation and just brainstorming what to do next. Any thoughts?
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I meant they call it permanent adhesive. I'm considering buying a 3rd party battery and doing myself at this point but I'm trying to think of ways to verify that it's actually the battery. If there's a bigger problem I'll probably just buy a new phone. The battery he showed me did look like it was removed from a phone unless he just knew I would look at it and made a few marks on it. I kind of let on that I was suspicious on the phone before I went in. He also offered to put it back in and refund my money but I was like I don't want a battery in my phone you pryed on and might explode on me and he refunded half my money but didn't put the "old" battery back in. According to him there's a new battery from LG in the phone right now but he said it might have been sitting around for a while... I'm a little frustrated at the whole situation and just brainstorming what to do next. Any thoughts?
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Screw that joker, don't let him touch any phone again. It's dangerous to put an old Li back in as it was likely damaged during removal.
New means manufactured within a year or two; they degrade as they sit.
It will have a date stamp.
High storage temperatures also degrade them faster.
OEM batteries probably come from Vietnam (the case with Samsung) but not sure with LG. If so reject ones made in China. In general the SK doesn't like the CCP very much.
A recently manufactured Li be best.
Otherwise what I previously posted.
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Screw that joker, don't let him touch any phone again. It's dangerous to put an old Li back in as it was likely damaged during removal.
New means manufactured within a year or two; they degrade as they sit.
It will have a date stamp.
High storage temperatures also degrade them faster.
OEM batteries probably come from Vietnam (the case with Samsung) but not sure with LG. If so reject ones made in China. In general the SK doesn't like the CCP very much.
A recently manufactured Li be best.
Otherwise what I previously posted.
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Ok thanks, appreciate it. I agree I can't believe they suggested to put the battery back in, I suspect if I left the store they would have just done nothing and given me the phone back, I don't trust them they wanted to try other things but I just said give me the refund and left.
Good luck--I changed the battery in my LG G8 about a year ago and it took some prying to get the original battery out. Just don't put adhesive on the new one so it'll be easier to replace next time.
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Good luck--I changed the battery in my LG G8 about a year ago and it took some prying to get the original battery out. Just don't put adhesive on the new one so it'll be easier to replace next time.
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The guy at the repair store said he got it out without bending the battery much, the battery he claimed he took out of the phone was not bend at all, I pressed him on that and he said, "it barely bent and I bent it back". I showed him the Jerryrig everything teardown and was like explain how you got it out so much easier and he said, "my pry tool is wider"..... that's about when I took the refund and just left.
@blackhawk yo so new developments, I bought a OnePlus 8T while I try to figure this out. I charged the G8 to 45% and turned it off, it was dead the next morning. There must be a short to ground somewhere on one of the logic boards. I'm going to try replacing the charge port logic board because if it's on the main motherboard it's probably not worth fixing. If the charge port logic board fixes it I'll have a mint phone with a new battery so I'll keep it as a backup or just sell it I think.
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@blackhawk yo so new developments, I bought a OnePlus 8T while I try to figure this out. I charged the G8 to 45% and turned it off, it was dead the next morning. There must be a short to ground somewhere on one of the logic boards. I'm going to try replacing the charge port logic board because if it's on the main motherboard it's probably not worth fixing. If the charge port logic board fixes it I'll have a mint phone with a new battery so I'll keep it as a backup or just sell it I think.
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You sure it's not the battery?
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You sure it's not the battery?
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pretty sure it wouldn't do that if it was the battery, a short to ground on the other hand will just passively drain power.
Li plating, dentrids... if the battery is at less than 80% it's original capacity it's already degraded.