I just recently picked up a T-Mobile unlocked Note 3. It's still stock on 4.3 and I'm trying to find out what is the best way to root without tripping the KNOX counter.
Also, will flashing any recovery trigger the KNOX counter?
Basically, what will and won't trigger it.
Thanks in advance.
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LukeLeBron said:
I just recently picked up a T-Mobile unlocked Note 3. It's still stock on 4.3 and I'm trying to find out what is the best way to root without tripping the KNOX counter.
Also, will flashing any recovery trigger the KNOX counter?
Basically, what will and won't trigger it.
Thanks in advance.
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All I could find is
"If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!"
But it also doesn't say that it won't trip Knox on others. It also doesn't state if there's a way to flash a recovery or rom without tripping Knox.
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LukeLeBron said:
All I could find is
"If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!"
But it also doesn't say that it won't trip Knox on others. It also doesn't state if there's a way to flash a recovery or rom without tripping Knox.
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You can root MI7 with RDLV and not trip Knox. Custom recoveries WILL trip Knox. Custom kernels WILL trip Knox. Custom roms WILL trip Knox unless you use safestrap.
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toastido said:
You can root MI7 with RDLV and not trip Knox. Custom recoveries WILL trip Knox. Custom kernels WILL trip Knox. Custom roms WILL trip Knox unless you use safestrap.
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And safe strap will not trip knox? Thank you very much for all your help.
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LukeLeBron said:
And safe strap will not trip knox? Thank you very much for all your help.
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It shouldn't, but no guarantee obviously. Just root with RDLV and install safestrap. It uses stock kernel and injects itself between the boot loader and the stock ROM.
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toastido said:
It shouldn't, but no guarantee obviously. Just root with RDLV and install safestrap. It uses stock kernel and injects itself between the boot loader and the stock ROM.
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Perfect! One last question, I have to use only certain roms with safestrap, right?
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LukeLeBron said:
Perfect! One last question, I have to use only certain roms with safestrap, right?
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I believe you can only use TW based Roms, since they use the stock kernel. Search for the safestrap thread for more about it. Good luck!
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Oh, before I forget.. Don't ota to 4.4.2 if you want to keep root. If you do, there are no known root methods that won't trip Knox as of yet.
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Here's some info about SafeStrap:
-----> forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607258
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Here's some info about SafeStrap:
-----> forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607258
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Thanks man, much appreciated.
Edit: so even though the thread says it's specifically for the SM-N9005 it's compatible with the T-Mobile SM-N900T? Just don't want to brick my phone with the wrong thing lol
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LukeLeBron said:
Thanks man, much appreciated.
Edit: so even though the thread says it's specifically for the SM-N9005 it's compatible with the T-Mobile SM-N900T? Just don't want to brick my phone with the wrong thing lol
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It wont brick. But if you're on KitKat it won't work.
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It wont brick. But if you're on KitKat it won't work.
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Perfect. I'm still stock on 4.3. It looks like I'm going to root with Vega, install SS and install a stock rooted 4.4 rom for SS to avoid tripping KNOX.
Thanks again!
LukeLeBron said:
Perfect. I'm still stock on 4.3. It looks like I'm going to root with Vega, install SS and install a stock rooted 4.4 rom for SS to avoid tripping KNOX.
Thanks again!
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No problem
the best its kingo app o cf auto
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I have a T-mobile Galaxy S4 and it's currently running danvdh's GPE edition. I am considering updating via the OTA to get the new baseband/radio. I currently have the mixed MK2/MDL radio/baseband. I know that I'll get knox if I update...but IIRC, the Knox apps are able to be removed, and flashing new ROMs will trip Knox, but aside from voiding the warranty, what else does this do? Nothing? Lol
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Your phone will say sea android kernel not enforcing when the phone starts up.
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Your phone will say sea android kernel not enforcing when the phone starts up.
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This is a full and complete answer, by the way. That is all it will do aside from the warrent.y It does not affect your daily use at all.
Just to confirm though. If I go back to complete stock and do this update and then apply any kind of root it will hit the Knox flag right?
Right now mine is still 0x0
Pretty sure it's flashing a custom recovery that trips Knox, not rooting.
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Pretty sure it's flashing a custom recovery that trips Knox, not rooting.
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yes it is
TheArtiszan said:
Just to confirm though. If I go back to complete stock and do this update and then apply any kind of root it will hit the Knox flag right?
Right now mine is still 0x0
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I rooted my GS4 running 4.3 with knox counter and it didn't trip anything. Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
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I rooted my GS4 running 4.3 with knox counter and it didn't trip anything. Try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
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I would like to point out that as of right now I have not seen a method to root 4.4 without tripping knox counter. 4.3 yes Saferoot works but not for 4.4
Question.... I have the NC2can I just Odin twrp and flash a rooted knox free custom rom and all is good?
Yeah, just remember that you will trip the Knox counter
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Yes understood, not worried just thought something may have changed in nc2 since nobody posted how to root it? Or people prolly still using the other 4.3 root method or removing knox and flashing superSU. Thank you sir!
There is a method posted to root, but since you want a custom rom its really unnecessary
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i searched the whole xda but couldnt find anyone with the new tmobile update for the t999l T999LUVUBNC1. Im rooted and removed knox. currently on T999LUVUBMK4 was wondering how would i install this new update and if it will brick my phone or not. thanks in advance
Sorry, I forgot to add it to my firmware thread. I will do that. In the meantime, you'll probably have to download from http://samsung-updates.com or http://sammobile.com/firmwares
Flash via Odin.
Won't brick, but will need to re-root and remove knox.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Sorry, I forgot to add it to my firmware thread. I will do that. In the meantime, you'll probably have to download from http://samsung-updates.com or http://sammobile.com/firmwares
Flash via Odin.
Won't brick, but will need to re-root and remove knox.
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thanks alot doc
DocHoliday77 said:
Sorry, I forgot to add it to my firmware thread. I will do that. In the meantime, you'll probably have to download from http://samsung-updates.com or http://sammobile.com/firmwares
Flash via Odin.
Won't brick, but will need to re-root and remove knox.
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will it remove twrp from my phone?
Yes, you will be completely stock. Keep in mind that with any 4.3 updates you cannot flash older firmware anymore. Roms are ok, just not previous firmware. You probably already know that since you're on MK4. But FYI anyway.
You can flash using Mobile Odin, but it will not update your bootloader and other underlying partitions. They would remain MK4. You could tell it to not flash recovery and twrp would be preserved.
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Root?
So is there a new way to root T999LUVUBNC1? One that will NOT trip the flash counter and possibly the Knox counter? I've been looking but could not find anything.
Portender said:
So is there a new way to root T999LUVUBNC1? One that will NOT trip the flash counter and possibly the Knox counter? I've been looking but could not find anything.
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yeah i just odin the latest twrp recovery and then download the flashable rootzip somewhere on here and you should be root could also flash the knox removal too if you wanted.
Flashing the recovery will trip the warranty bit though, just fyi.
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yeah i just odin the latest twrp recovery and then download the flashable rootzip somewhere on here and you should be root could also flash the knox removal too if you wanted.
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I think this would definitely trip the Knox counter
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Flashing the recovery will trip the warranty bit though, just fyi.
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Do you think this method would work on our T999L without tripping the Knox counter? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684421
[How-To][GUIDE] Update and Root T999 JB 4.3 update - UVUENC2 Firmware
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I don't think cf autoroot will trip knox, but don't take my word for it as it not positive. You'll have to check the cf autoroot thread in Original Development to see if there is one made for your T999L firmware. The T999 one will not work for you.
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I don't think cf autoroot will trip knox, but don't take my word for it as it not positive. You'll have to check the cf autoroot thread in Original Development to see if there is one made for your T999L firmware. The T999 one will not work for you.
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I did find that there is one.made for the t999l, but not sure about tripping Knox. In the development thread it says it will, but I'm not sure if he means after flashing a custom recovery or not. I would just do it, but I still have 6 months of warranty left.
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Whats the newest changes. Sammobile doesnt say but provides the download
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Only info anywhere I've found just says it provides stability improvements or something to that effect. They likely either just patched up some bugs they found, and/or are trying to get ready for 4.4 OTA's.
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I did find that there is one.made for the t999l, but not sure about tripping Knox. In the development thread it says it will, but I'm not sure if he means after flashing a custom recovery or not. I would just do it, but I still have 6 months of warranty left.
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I don't know if it will still work on the latest builds, but you could also look into MotoChopper. Some used it to root in the past, and I know it does not write over recovery, so it may not trip the warranty bit. I have no idea if it would trip, or even if it'd work anymore, but is another option worth looking at.
Check ATT forums too. Their root methods usually work for us too.
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I don't think cf autoroot will trip knox, but don't take my word for it as it not positive. You'll have to check the cf autoroot thread in Original Development to see if there is one made for your T999L firmware. The T999 one will not work for you.
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is it working fine now? i found tutorial over here ,is it ok?
I was wondering if anyone has tried towelroot on a Tmobile note 3? If you have did it work?
It works fine up until NE6.. it won't work in NF1. You can always Odin back to NE6 to use it.
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androidmasterrace said:
I was wondering if anyone has tried towelroot on a Tmobile note 3? If you have did it work?
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As long as your updated to NE6. I updated via kies and rooted. Very simple.
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will it work if i dont update to NE6
No. Well it doesn't work with nb4.
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Can someone explain or link me to somewhere where it does explain how to switch to NE6. Also will I have to root to upgrade because if I do there will be no point of upgrading and using towelroot
androidmasterrace said:
Can someone explain or link me to somewhere where it does explain how to switch to NE6. Also will I have to root to upgrade because if I do there will be no point of upgrading and using towelroot
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All you have to do is download the N900TUVUDNE6 Firmware from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N900T&pcode=TMB#firmware. Then, connect your phone to your computer and open Odin software. Flash though AP. After a few minutes, it's done and voila! This will not change your Knox status from 0x0. Then use Towelroot v2 to root your phone. Its a very easy install and click app. and you are done.
I was hoping to avoid Odin if at all possible not because I don't know what I'm doing but because I'm a very cautious and have only rooted one other phone with odin. Also I noticed NF1 is on Kies will that work with towelroot?
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All you have to do is download the N900TUVUDNE6 Firmware from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N900T&pcode=TMB#firmware. Then, connect your phone to your computer and open Odin software. Flash though AP. After a few minutes, it's done and voila! This will not change your Knox status from 0x0. Then use Towelroot v2 to root your phone. Its a very easy install and click app. and you are done.
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ok sorry to ask but just to be sure, if i had NF1 and did the downgrade it will NOT change my knox from 0x0 to 0x1?
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ok sorry to ask but just to be sure, if i had NF1 and did the downgrade it will NOT change my knox from 0x0 to 0x1?
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No. Simply downgrading to stock firmware will not change your Knox status to 0x1. I downgraded myself in order to gain root and I'm still at 0x0.
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All you have to do is download the N900TUVUDNE6 Firmware from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N900T&pcode=TMB#firmware. Then, connect your phone to your computer and open Odin software. Flash though AP. After a few minutes, it's done and voila! This will not change your Knox status from 0x0. Then use Towelroot v2 to root your phone. Its a very easy install and click app. and you are done.
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When i try to load the NE6 firmware it fails because it says i dont have a pit partition what do i do?
howdyace said:
No. Well it doesn't work with nb4.
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Worked fine for me... I had to disable lookout mobile security first however. Edit: Knox is 0x0
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b0bii said:
Worked fine for me... I had to disable lookout mobile security first however. Edit: Knox is 0x0
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Interesting , it didn't work for me and my wife (tmobile note 3) and others. I'm not sure why unless with v2 nb4 firmware was included.
I hope he does a v3 soon.
NF1 come on down......:highfive:
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Interesting , it didn't work for me and my wife (tmobile note 3) and others. I'm not sure why unless with v2 nb4 firmware was included.
I hope he does a v3 soon.
NF1 come on down......:highfive:
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There was a bug with the kernel I use that was fixed in v2
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There was a bug with the kernel I use that was fixed in v2
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Gotcha.
I just want root. I really don't want to trip knox because I know my luck and the CS reps will check before i do the jump program to note 4. Because thats all i really envision me getting anyways. G3 and the oppo .....meh.
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Gotcha.
I just want root. I really don't want to trip knox because I know my luck and the CS reps will check before i do the jump program to note 4. Because thats all i really envision me getting anyways. G3 and the oppo .....meh.
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Checked my bootloader. I'm 0x0
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Yeah, I traded root for nf1 volte and while I don't regret it I don't want to flash ne6 baseband. And I'm still 0x0 for the 5 days I was rooted.
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I am on NB4 and towelroot works with no knox 0×0!
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I don't care about Tripping knox, or voiding any warranty.
Outside of that, is the 4.4.2 bootloader locked? Meaning, can I easily flash a custom recovery TWRP or CWM? Are you able to downgrade the firmware at any point, or are you locked in doing that?
I had an AT&T S4 but got tired of it's locked bootloader, so I sold it and I am back on my S3 for now. I was considering picking up a new T-mobile s4 and then unlocking it for AT&T, but I wanted to be sure it was an unlocked bootloader on 4.4.2 before I did.
Thanks.
It's unlocked, the only thing you can't do is downgrade the firmware but you can still flash 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs
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It's unlocked, the only thing you can't do is downgrade the firmware but you can still flash 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs
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Okay, sounds great. I don't have any particular need to go back to something lower than 4.4.2, so that is really no big deal. I am just trying to get myself educated on where the phone is limited.
Thanks.
EDIT: So your are saying that I would not be able to downgrade to an official 4.3 firmware for example via odin, but I could use twrp to flash a custom 4.3 based rom. Just making sure I understand you correctly.
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Okay, sounds great. I don't have any particular need to go back to something lower than 4.4.2, so that is really no big deal. I am just trying to get myself educated on where the phone is limited.
Thanks.
EDIT: So your are saying that I would not be able to downgrade to an official 4.3 firmware for example via odin, but I could use twrp to flash a custom 4.3 based rom. Just making sure I understand you correctly.
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4.3 i believe still works as it holds the newer bootloader. But 4.2 you will need to use a ROM zip to install that one. If you try in Odin it fails due to signature headers not matching in the bootloader.
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EDIT: So your are saying that I would not be able to downgrade to an official 4.3 firmware for example via odin, but I could use twrp to flash a custom 4.3 based rom. Just making sure I understand you correctly.
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Yup, that's exactly what I'm saying ?
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4.3 i believe still works as it holds the newer bootloader. But 4.2 you will need to use a ROM zip to install that one. If you try in Odin it fails due to signature headers not matching in the bootloader.
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Any stock firmware below 4.4.2 will cause FC's problems and/or soft brick.
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Any stock firmware below 4.4.2 will cause FC's problems and/or soft brick.
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lol
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Any stock firmware below 4.4.2 will cause FC's problems and/or soft brick.
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Actually, it will just give you a fail message in Odin
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Actually, it will just give you a fail message in Odin
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Then I must have tried a different firmware. I swear it was stock 4.2.2
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Then I must have tried a different firmware. I swear it was stock 4.2.2
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That will fail in Odin. No way will it cause a brick.
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I read somewhere that flashing even an untouched Samsung 4.4.2 firmware though Odin would trip Knox. Can anyone confirm that??
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I read somewhere that flashing even an untouched Samsung 4.4.2 firmware though Odin would trip Knox. Can anyone confirm that??
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The Knox flag is only tripped when you flash a non-stock Recovery. If you only flash stock ROMs, it will not trip Knox.
However, some Root methods install a non-stock Recovery and this will trip the flag.
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The Knox flag is only tripped when you flash a non-stock Recovery. If you only flash stock ROMs, it will not trip Knox.
However, some Root methods install a non-stock Recovery and this will trip the flag.
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Thanks man. I don't know to much about Knox because I have an MDK Verizon s4. I'm researching this for my girl. Thanks for clarifying. So it sounds like towel root with no recovery is a safe plan. Thanks again.
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Thanks man. I don't know to much about Knox because I have an MDK Verizon s4. I'm researching this for my girl. Thanks for clarifying. So it sounds like towel root with no recovery is a safe plan. Thanks again.
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Let us know how it worked. I rooted before TowelRoot was available, and wanted a non-stock Recovery so was fine with the Knox flag being set.
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