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I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
snapplefish said:
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
sram21092 said:
if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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I detailed what I did here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57161714&postcount=24
(Here's the post where I got the instructions from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57095260&postcount=9 )
I didn't change the directory where I sideloaded the Vending.apk, I just sideloaded it in with everything else. I don't remember if I briefly tried to install the Play store before without Google services, but that's probably why I had to adb install with the -r flag.
Before I installed Google services, some apps were working fine without them. Notably, Snapchat complained every time I brought it up, but ran fine. I would wait a bit for some more input from people... From what I've heard around here, it's just me and another guy (Aztecwarrior, the guy whose method I used in that thread) who have it working at the moment. I'd say you can sideload most applications without installing Google services.
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ is what I used to pull APKs to sideload before installing the Google services and Play store.
EDIT: I should mention that the Play store doesn't just deliver updates to apps... I've been able to completely install and manage applications through it; it works just as you'd expect it to work on any other phone for the moment. i.e., you don't need to sideload apps first to get them on the phone if you've installed all the Google stuff. Sorry for the ambiguity in my previous post.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
bmbriefs said:
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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No background crashes -- yet -- at all. I've also enabled background ANRs in the dev options, and nothing's popped up from that either.
I don't have all access for Music, so I can't comment on that.
I just installed Hangouts and gave it a cursory launch... It loads up, enabled SMS (loaded all my conversations from the Fire Phone's messenger app), has all my contacts loaded up to start a conversation. Is there anything specific you'd want me to try?
Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Regarding default apps, everything is handled via intents (e.g. I set chrome to take all web requests)... when I enabled hangouts sms, I started getting texts to hangouts without being notified by the default app, so I think that much is configurable. The dialer, I'm not sure.
I'm in class right now (and pretty much until 9pm, and lots of homework), but I'll check hangouts dialer and default apps when I have time.
Did you root it first ,if so, did you use the same method as aztecwarrior?
No root. I used the guide that Aztec referenced, but not his exact steps. Check post #4 in this thread, the first few lines.
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I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
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I've been using the Play Store, Hangouts, and Gmail off and on the last 12 hours or so. It's been rock solid for me. No crashes. Haven't found any missing features. Maps does seem to have some issues but haven't tried navigation yet, which is what I really would use it for.
Thanks to you all for your input. I bit the bullet and ordered one before the sale ended.
Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
natter_deluxe said:
Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
natter_deluxe said:
Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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As I said, checking the update status does not provide the 3.6.8 version to my phone. It is not rooted and after delivery with 3.6.0 I did nothing else to the phone but update it to 3.6.2.
Only the new GSM unlocked phones come with 3.6.8 Sounds like you got your phone before this all happend therefore you are able to downgrade and root, your one of the lucky ones. You can get a AOSP feel to your phone if you want. Not sure why your not following those guides. Heck if you don't want to root then I'll trade you phones lol.
Gmail conacts
I am transferring my contacts to the FIre phone from Android. All my phone contacts are stored in Gmail(google contacts).
Now the problem is i am not able to find a setting option which would show only contacts with Phone no.
It is showing all contacts of Gmail, but i only need contacts with phone no there.
I had the same issue in Android 2.3 or something, when Android had an option of enabling the contacts with phone no only. Later on in Android 4 they moved to keeping all contacts but at the dialup i could search for only contacts with numbers only.
Any suggestion here. May be a different launcher or app?
Thanks
I received my phone and mostly everything is working. Google voice works, and automatically places calls using my gv number. Only issue I'm having is that the hangouts doesn't send sms messages over WiFi (but will over let) and the hangouts dialer has the same issue, I can't place calls via WiFi either. Anyone else find this?
Hi there,
I left my phone on (i927, CM11, 4.4.4) when I was away and when I returned, I noticed that there are multiple error messages. They appear all the time, even after a reboot.
These are the errors I am getting:
Unfortunately, Google Play services has stopped.
Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps has stopped.
Unfortunately, Google Services Framework has stopped.
Also, when I try to log into Google Play , it says Authentication Required and won't let me retry to login.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Many thanks in advance!
azwindsor said:
Hi there,
I left my phone on (i927, CM11, 4.4.4) when I was away and when I returned, I noticed that there are multiple error messages. They appear all the time, even after a reboot.
These are the errors I am getting:
Unfortunately, Google Play services has stopped.
Unfortunately, Google Services Framework has stopped.
Also, when I try to log into Google Play , it says Authentication Required and won't let me retry to login.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Many thanks in advance!
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Go into settings apps and find and open Google play settings.
Try to uninstall updates of it then reboot and open Google play again.
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Go into settings apps and find and open Google play settings.
Try to uninstall updates of it then reboot and open Google play again.
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Many thanks for the quick response! It seems that less errors are popping up, but they still do. Google Play still doesn't work.
azwindsor said:
Many thanks for the quick response! It seems that less errors are popping up, but they still do. Google Play still doesn't work.
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Which gapps do you have inatalled?
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I also had this problem since the beginning of February IIRC. I figured out what happened with logcat: libgmscore.so crashes the gapps process due to an illegal instruction. Asus TF101 users also report this issue. That tablet uses a Tegra 2 SOC, like our phone, and it doesn't support neon instructions, which the latest versions of the Play Services apparently use without bothering to check for proper support in the CPU. So, at least for now, the solution is to downgrade and prevent updates to play services. See this thread for details: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ee...to-fix-crashing-google-play-services-t3557521
It's been working fine for me since I did that, but I'm kinda appalled that Google is so reckless.
Edit: the right variant for our phones, if you're still on a 4.0 ROM, is 034. You don't need a system app remover, just uninstall updates for Google Play Services.
Wr4i7h said:
I also had this problem since the beginning of February IIRC. I figured out what happened with logcat: libgmscore.so crashes the gapps process due to an illegal instruction. Asus TF101 users also report this issue. That tablet uses a Tegra 2 SOC, like our phone, and it doesn't support neon instructions, which the latest versions of the Play Services apparently use without bothering to check for proper support in the CPU. So, at least for now, the solution is to downgrade and prevent updates to play services. See this thread for details: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ee...to-fix-crashing-google-play-services-t3557521
It's been working fine for me since I did that, but I'm kinda appalled that Google is so reckless.
Edit: the right variant for our phones, if you're still on a 4.0 ROM, is 034. You don't need a system app remover, just uninstall updates for Google Play Services.
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This sounds very promising, many thanks for sharing your experience and the fix! I will try it and post the results here.
I will also try to find out what gapps I have installed just in case.
Have this problem too
Wr4i7h said:
I also had this problem since the beginning of February IIRC. I figured out what happened with logcat: libgmscore.so crashes the gapps process due to an illegal instruction. Asus TF101 users also report this issue. That tablet uses a Tegra 2 SOC, like our phone, and it doesn't support neon instructions, which the latest versions of the Play Services apparently use without bothering to check for proper support in the CPU. So, at least for now, the solution is to downgrade and prevent updates to play services. See this thread for details: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ee...to-fix-crashing-google-play-services-t3557521
It's been working fine for me since I did that, but I'm kinda appalled that Google is so reckless.
Edit: the right variant for our phones, if you're still on a 4.0 ROM, is 034. You don't need a system app remover, just uninstall updates for Google Play Services.
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I had this problem too. I was running a custom ROM - Omni ROM 4.4. I also observed that everything was fine if I didn't update Play Services. However, some apps (eg current Gmail app) require it.
I have since gone back to stock ROM (ICS 4.0.4). The problem now is syncing issues. Not every Google service can sync. EG- Contacts, Keep, Calendar. _ they can't sync. WhatsApp and SwiftKey also cannot connect to my google account. That's where I'm at now. But at least, the phone is usable. It's the syncing problem that I was searching for a solution for and I saw this thread.
TheoFitchner said:
I had this problem too. I was running a custom ROM - Omni ROM 4.4. I also observed that everything was fine if I didn't update Play Services. However, some apps (eg current Gmail app) require it.
I have since gone back to stock ROM (ICS 4.0.4). The problem now is syncing issues. Not every Google service can sync. EG- Contacts, Keep, Calendar. _ they can't sync. WhatsApp and SwiftKey also cannot connect to my google account. That's where I'm at now. But at least, the phone is usable. It's the syncing problem that I was searching for a solution for and I saw this thread.
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Late reply, but if you use Google Play services 10.0.84, as in the post I linked, sync will work again.
Update: According to this post, the issue will be fixed properly by Google soon. So get ready to delete those directories to allow Play services to update themselves.
use beta gps from here:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-10-5-48-release/
Hi all, many thanks for all of your responses. I didn't get to try Wr4i7h's suggested fix, but updating Google Play to the latest version today has solved the problem!
Hi
Just bought the watch from Amazon Uk and bought a charger and got it working. Followed all the instructions and synched the watch with my phone (one plus one on RR Rom).
Also change it to developer options and also checked unknown sources. Also downloaded the android wear app onto phone.
However I don't have the Play app store on my phone and it looks like not all contacts have synched and only certain apps fed in. Did all the power off etc and also unpaired phone and same issue. Also updated to latest Android Wear
Cannot find anything on web and just found this forum and trying to find if I am missing something etc as it states in manual it does support facebook, twitter etc but I cannot get these apps loaded onto watch.
Any help appreciated
Cheers
Maybe flash AW 2.0 DP5? It will be a complete replacement of the OS.
Pretty sure it just means supports "All" app notifications including facebook, twitter etc etc. These are just standard android notifications. Facebook itself does not have a wear app, thats something facebook would need to release.
I've searched the Google a few different times, but the wording leads to unrelated results.
I thought it was just a glitch / conflict with my rooted Z2 Play, not receiving notifications from Google Play, when app updates are available.
I have auto update turned off for two reasons. I absolutely hate the new cartoon version of Waze (v4+) and I like to know when apps update, in case I have issues, I can more easily identify suspects.
I fired up my backup phone, VZW Z2 Play and the same thing. No notification with plenty of app updates waiting.
Anyone else experience this?
pizza_pablo said:
I've searched the Google a few different times, but the wording leads to unrelated results.
I thought it was just a glitch / conflict with my rooted Z2 Play, not receiving notifications from Google Play, when app updates are available.
I have auto update turned off for two reasons. I absolutely hate the new cartoon version of Waze (v4+) and I like to know when apps update, in case I have issues, I can more easily identify suspects.
I fired up my backup phone, VZW Z2 Play and the same thing. No notification with plenty of app updates waiting.
Anyone else experience this?
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Clean cache of Playstore maybe?
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Clean cache of Playstore maybe?
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I'm thinking about clearing data.
I found that as a solution for other issues with Google Play, but thought I'd wait for responses here.
Thanks!
even better! if you are still receiving push notification, then Playstore app/service is malfunctioning. Cleaning it up should help.
I recently received an update on my Chinese mate 20x. After the update, Google sync does not work and anyting reliant on Google servers is also malfunctioning. For example, WhatsApp cannot backup to Google drive, Google drive does not sync or backup and Google photos is also not working. I'm unable to sign in or switch accounts in the Google app. Tried the usual things like clearing cache etc but didn't help. I'm open to trying anyting and would like to avoid a hard reset. Anyone else having these issues? Any suggestions I could try? Thanks in advance
AL00 EMUI 10 no single Google relate problem here as before. Factory reset and try again
Zanr Zij said:
AL00 EMUI 10 no single Google relate problem here as before. Factory reset and try again
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Thanks got the response. you upgraded and did a factory reset yourself? If so, is there a guide you followed after the reset on installing Google services?
Thanks again
It is possible because the China ROMs do not come with Google services. Just re-download and re-install the .apk file and it will be fine.
Google Play Store v. 17.5.18 Apk:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl.../google-play-store-17-5-18-release/#downloads
Thanks for the response has everyone. I just wanted to update and say that after doing a reset through the settings I reinstalled Google services and everything is working. As an added bonus, even my location history now works. It never did in the past.
seti007 said:
Thanks for the response has everyone. I just wanted to update and say that after doing a reset through the settings I reinstalled Google services and everything is working. As an added bonus, even my location history now works. It never did in the past.
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how did u install google services? just via google play apk? or via google package install?
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how did u install google services? just via google play apk? or via google package install?
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you need Google Play Service
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-19-6-68-release/
Google Playstore
https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type=app_release&searchtype=apk&s=google+play+store
Google Calendar Sync
https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type=app_release&searchtype=apk&s=google+calendar+sync
Google Contact Sync
https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type=app_release&searchtype=apk&s=google+contact+sync
you can find all Google Apps and many others on the APK Mirror Page.
These are the most important ones
seti007 said:
Thanks for the response has everyone. I just wanted to update and say that after doing a reset through the settings I reinstalled Google services and everything is working. As an added bonus, even my location history now works. It never did in the past.
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I reset my phone and installed google play store from apk but location history still doesn't work, how can you enable it ?
Howdy.
Have you managed to solve this? My EVR-AL00 came with Pie and it also had Google Play Store pre-installed with GMS Installer.
Once I had it updated to Android 10, Google Play Store stopped working. I reset the device, got the Google Play Store APK from APKMirror, and installed it.
Now that I have sync issues. Entering Google account profile returns Offline status. Also Google Contacts don't sync and Goodie Books shows connection error when you open the Books app. I can't get any book, the app displays white screen when you open it.
Other apps like GMail and GPay indicate no sync issues, however opening Google account profile from any of the app doesn't display anything on any tab excluding the first one. Also the first tab in profile shows that I'm offline. While I'm not, as I can browse web, chat with WhatsApp, send and receive mail.
Any clues on fixing that?
Here you have all necessary files
Here you have all necessary files : https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1--UOIQ9ruZIPe3w7tq5o8-HecAlF0e-y