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Will Orange change my battery?

Hi guys,
I got me Desire about 2 weeks and over that time the battery on the phone has gotten rapidly worse. I can no longer get it to fully charge - after a night on charge it will be about 94pc charged. Which I admit isn't the end of the world but I unplugged my phone from my charger at 7am this morning and 20 mins later the battery is down to 84pc. No gps, WiFi, etc is on and other than writing this its been on standby. The battery has to be faulty, surely? Will Orange change it? Or will I have to buy myself another battery?
Cheers guys
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Did you check the battery usage logs?
Punch in the *#*#4636#*#* code in the phone keypad and you can see if any of your applications are using too much power or prevent your phone from going to complete sleep.
If it's not an app problem it can at least give you some info what could use so much power.

Thanks ferus. I learned something new. I'll have a look and see if I can find out what's going on.
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The section Battery history -> partial wake usage can reveal the particular app that might giving you trouble. Check the log with the "Since last unplugged" option.
Other options can reveal useful info too. Have a look and hopefully you will find the cause for your problem.
I was able to find out that Playlist Alarm application was preventing my Desire to go to complete sleep. It was keeping the phone in PartialWake State 100% of time.

Just got my seidio extended battery what's the best way to charge it?

I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I charged mine up til it was 100%, then monitored the battery widget. It kept going at waveform like this for another hour and a half - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ - however as time went on, the peaks would be at lower and lower amplitudes. Eventually, the charging current decreased significantly, and there was an occasional spike every 5-10 min. At that point, I turned it off and let it charge for another hr or so. Rebooted (while still plugged in) into recovery, wiped battery stats, then rebooted to the desktop. Once the phone was fully booted, I unplugged.
I can get a good 2 days with light usage, or a solid 1 day with heavy. There after, I charge it til green, then give it another 1.5-2 hrs more - You can tell by the battery widget when it actually stops charging.
Note, i'm not using an SBC based kernel.

What battery widget are you using?
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mikel719 said:
I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's all bull man you dont really need an external charger. When I was in the process of getting my 3500 mah I was also preocuppied about the external charger, however I began to use and you really dont need it.
Just understand that when the 100% sign comes up and the green light turns on it's not really charged all the way, the phone can only recognize upto 1500 mah..if I remember correctly. You have to leave the phone plugged in for another hour or so for it to actually get it's full charge.
Even then, it will seem like it is not working because the battery will go from 100 to 90 in around 5 minutes ITS CRAZY!! But dont worry thats a fault on HTC's part. After that 90% mark the phone will have really good battery life. I usually get around 15 hours of heavy usage, extremely heavy trust me! If you just use it for phone calls and dont really use GPS and stuff you should get maybe a day and a half.
So dont worry about the external charger, it's not true. What I did when I first got the battery I charged it 100% let it drain all the way and then recharged it. This is just so the phone understand the capacity of the new battery. At first it may seem a bit "iffy" but dont worry it'll live upto it's potential.
Hope this helps. Later!

Thanks obloivior72,
I'm going to charge it up now and try it.
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Just remember let it sit for another hour after it says it's full, Actually leave it for 2 just to be safe. I can't emphasize this enough! Glad I was able to be of some help! Enjoy your new battery.

Graph looks something like this.
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Each tick mark on the X axis is 10 minutes. It took about 2 hrs to get the battery from 20% to 100%, then another good 90 minutes to really complete the charge (light green during this time).

Im using an SBC kernel. Its a little bit taboo on these forums right now but if you can get your hands one one it will def do the trick without jumping through hoops. Just read up on it first. Search the forums and do some reading about it before flashing. There's a lot of conflicting opinions on both sides about it so read about it then you decide.
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I looked into the sbc kernels but with the bad info and everything I cant make the jump. I charged for 2 hours after full so I'm going to test it now till it dies while running calkulins 1.7.7. I'll let everyone know how it goes. I appreciate all the tips. Hopefully this makes my evo complete.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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mikel719 said:
So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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WHOA!!!! I told you!!! Thats awesome bro, congrats!

I'm stoked. Now I don't have to always take my charger with me.
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This is what Seido told me to do if it isn't charging adequately:
"Please try to fully drain the battery until the phone completely shuts off automatically and then charge with the OEM AC charger that came with your device. Repeat this process 3 consecutive times. This will recondition and also recycle battery usage for best performance.
Thank you,
Seidoonline Technical Support"
However, doing this when the battery is new really doesn't do any good. It would be useful after some time using it since these are "smart batteries".
Just charge it normally and should be good to go.

new battery

Hi,
I got a new battery for my GS3. There is a lot of conflicting info out there. Do I first charge it right away before using the phone or do I use it until it dies and then charge it?
Thanks

I always thought it was a myth until I tried it out. My sister's phone had the same things as mine all stock and widgets are the same. I drained my battery right away while she kept her battery full. The result? Hers averaged 4 hours screen on while mine is 2 hours
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So what did your sister do to get such great screen time vs what you did?

mikea3000 said:
So what did your sister do to get such great screen time vs what you did?
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I drained mine to 10% she kept hers at 76%
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kulzboy said:
I drained mine to 10% she kept hers at 76%
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Note: both phones have the same setup
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The let it die first then start charging is a myth... just research it, there are numerous sites claiming the results will diminish and kill Li-Ion batteries faster. Just use it as normal.

How does she get 4 hours of screen time. What is she doing during that time? I can barely get 2 hours but that includes about 2 hours of talk time. Does my usage sound normal or on the low side? Based on what I read here on xda I was expecting better battery life.

We would need more info on your use and what not, after a full days use post screen shots of your use time awake time and call time. We also need to know if you're stock rom and what your signal is like.

My signal is always full bars 4g. I am 100 percent stock. For example right now I have 37% left after 11 hours of uptime. This includes 1 hr screen time and 1.5 talk time. I did nothing but talk email and text today. I did about 20 emails and 150 texts. Is this on the low side? This is why I had t-mobile send me a new battery and am considering trying it.

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My signal is always full bars 4g. I am 100 percent stock. For example right now I have 37% left after 11 hours of uptime. This includes 1 hr screen time and 1.5 talk time. I did nothing but talk email and text today. I did about 20 emails and 150 texts. Is this on the low side? This is why I had t-mobile send me a new battery and am considering trying it.
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I would call that kinda normal, I don't talk on the phone for more then 25 minutes per day, and send about the same amount of text and data massages (whatsapp and gtalk) few emails, I average about 3.5-4 hours through out the day... If I were to talk on the phone I'm guessing I'd be getting around the same as you, and I have a spare battery that gets about the same performance.

What percent are u left with by the end of the day once u get the 3.5-4 hours? Now I'm wondering if I'm being paranoid. And if there's a point of trying a new battery if u think my usage is somewhat normal.

On average while stock I'd say 20ish percent... no on non stock roms I play with my phone more and use more battery haha... that's up to you I've seen reports in between both of ours from 7 hours of on screen time to people with barely 2 on screen time. Everyone uses their phone differently.
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To top off or not to the battery ?

I'm the type if I see a charger I'll top off as much as I can at whatever % but I hear that every time I charge it's weakening the battery to where it becomes harder to hold a charge down the road ..what does everyone else suggest ...charge it overnight and let it run low before plugging up again or charge it throughout the day
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Personally having these phones, I think charging all the way down then all the way up kills the battery...I plug my phone in whenever I can and always had great battery life. ..I also leave it on the charger while using it and until I need to move it. ..
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I topped it off when I know when I'm going out. I managed to grab spare batteries finally, so now I just switch them once they get low.
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I'll plug it in when I can. Ultimately I want to get one of the wireless charging back covers so I can just put it on my charging pad but alas, I haven't yet. IMO, I wouldn't let it go all the way down.

Lithium batteries have a limited number of discharge/recharge cycles, usually 500-1000. If you run all the way down and then fully charge, that is one cycle. If you run to 75% and then charge to 100%, that's one quarter of a cycle. Who's to say which method yields more battery longevity - burning a whole cycle once a day or 3 to 4 partially cycles throughout the day? I would guess that in the end, it's all about the same.
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Even then batteries are not that expensive.if you need a full charge when you go somewhere, having topped off means you will have a working phone. Beats having a dead phone when you need one. Battery wears out, get a new one.

Voices call draining battery even though not in used?

I just got a new note 3 few days ago. Root and put CM 11 on it and everything great so far but battery seem to be acting up. Today during 12 hours after discharge, 55% of battery was used in voices calls which show usage for 7 hours ish when in reality I only make 2 phone call of 5 minutes total. 25% go to screen on time and the rest is miscellaneous. What causing the phone to use 7 hours of voice call when I am not calling anyone? how do I fix this problem?

Give it time to sink it
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