I'm jumping to the S5 or HTC One 2, considering Samsung and T-Mobile phones are always running a deal, If I were to jump on release day, I'd pay a down payment. Anyone who has previously jumped to a high end phone can tell me what they paid for the down payment? Or what kind of price to expect on the S5 with jump? Or, is it best to wait till they have a special price on the S5? Like, the note 3 was offered at no DP around December and November.
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I'm jumping to the S5 or HTC One 2, considering Samsung and T-Mobile phones are always running a deal, If I were to jump on release day, I'd pay a down payment. Anyone who has previously jumped to a high end phone can tell me what they paid for the down payment? Or what kind of price to expect on the S5 with jump? Or, is it best to wait till they have a special price on the S5? Like, the note 3 was offered at no DP around December and November.
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When I got the note 3 it was zero down (release day)
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I'm jumping to the S5 or HTC One 2, considering Samsung and T-Mobile phones are always running a deal, If I were to jump on release day, I'd pay a down payment. Anyone who has previously jumped to a high end phone can tell me what they paid for the down payment? Or what kind of price to expect on the S5 with jump? Or, is it best to wait till they have a special price on the S5? Like, the note 3 was offered at no DP around December and November.
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I got the Note 3 on launch day for zero down.
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I got the Note 3 on launch day for zero down.
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When I got the note 3 it was zero down (release day)
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So all you two had to do was pay taxes, and that's it? Was there a reason you two had no down, or is no down standard for a jump user?
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So all you two had to do was pay taxes, and that's it? Was there a reason you two had no down, or is no down standard for a jump user?
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i guess we just got lucky...
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So all you two had to do was pay taxes, and that's it? Was there a reason you two had no down, or is no down standard for a jump user?
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I believe that is based on credit worthiness, unless you have not been with T-Mobile for a certain amount of time. I got my S4 in August and they told me it would be $150 down, unless I have held an account with T-Mobile for some amount of time (A year? I forget), in which case it would be $0 down.
I just Jumped to my N3 a few weeks ago and it was $0 down...which makes little sense, but, whatever.
I have great (not perfect, but up there) credit...and I've got the feeling that their bar isn't terribly high.
Then again, depending on the associate you deal with you never know how things will go down. My sister just told me how her last bill was for over $1000 because after Jumping the associate didn't credit back the original EIP balance on top of charging the entirety of her new phone balance directly to her account. I suggested going to the police as that seems like some intentionally shady business.
On the other hand my last 2 bills have not included an EIP payment at all and my device is showing $0 balance and I'm wondering if the associate perhaps screwed up completely and did the opposite of what happened to my sister. (The transaction took almost 3 hours somehow...I'm not sure he was entirely literate, even though he was a really nice guy).
I'm sure people with so-so credit walk in with no previous T-Mobile account and walk out with a $0 down N3 all the time...give it a shot. Hell, try different stores and see what you come up with.
It is 100% based on your credit. They take your Social and run it and depending on how good your credit is means if you have to put anything down or not.
Yeah it depends on your credit. I have **** credit. There was a 0 down for good credit, 200 down for ok credit, and then there was me.... 360 down. You would think they would give me a break since I've been with them for 3 years and have paid off 3 phones early.
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It is 100% based on your credit. They take your Social and run it and depending on how good your credit is means if you have to put anything down or not.
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They will only run it when you open your account unless you request it to be run again.
For JUMP to be efficient you need to upgrade on the 0 down deals if your credit allows. I think 0 down is a staple now so when the GS5 comes I'd expect it to be 0 down as well
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So all you two had to do was pay taxes, and that's it? Was there a reason you two had no down, or is no down standard for a jump user?
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Everyone had zero down
Meaning u been with them a while.
Also good credit
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I'm jumping to the S5 or HTC One 2, considering Samsung and T-Mobile phones are always running a deal, If I were to jump on release day, I'd pay a down payment. Anyone who has previously jumped to a high end phone can tell me what they paid for the down payment? Or what kind of price to expect on the S5 with jump? Or, is it best to wait till they have a special price on the S5? Like, the note 3 was offered at no DP around December and November.
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Do you already have a NOTE3? Because if so, all I got out of it was you were going to downgrade.
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Do you already have a NOTE3? Because if so, all I got out of it was you were going to downgrade.
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Haha, I do have a note 3. I love it, and I understand in some ways its a downgrade, but if I can jump to the S5 for almost free, and jump again to the note 4, almost free again, why not?
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Haha, I do have a note 3. I love it, and I understand in some ways its a downgrade, but if I can jump to the S5 for almost free, and jump again to the note 4, almost free again, why not?
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Yeah I hear ya for sure..... I rooted my stepsons S4 today and I was like "so this is a nifty little toy" lol! For me it's just the screen and S-pen..... I never put it away and don't want to live without it. The Note series has me really spoiled. The 5 has some cool stuff going on but the note 4 is gonna be rediculous I'm sure and have the same + features. If you do jump to the S5 please let us know your impressions and likes/dislikes.
Yea, I already know what to expect. A mediocre phone with nifty features that mainly serve as bragging tools lol. But agreed, the Note 4 is mind boggling. I'm sure we're all expecting huge things. Since the note series is the only series that actually had huge changes every year, unlike galaxy and iPhones
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Yea, I already know what to expect. A mediocre phone with nifty features that mainly serve as bragging tools lol. But agreed, the Note 4 is mind boggling. I'm sure we're all expecting huge things. Since the note series is the only series that actually had huge changes every year, unlike galaxy and iPhones
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If you root you might be screwed with the introduction of Knox 2.0. You might not want to make the jump till it cleared by a dev clearing Knox.
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Haha, I do have a note 3. I love it, and I understand in some ways its a downgrade, but if I can jump to the S5 for almost free, and jump again to the note 4, almost free again, why not?
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Ugh I hate jump, it's a gimmick really. You have to give tmobile your damn near paid off phone for a new phone just to do the same thing over and over again. I understand this sounds good to some people but if you ask me it's never really your phone even though your making all these steep payments monthly. I don't think I'll be able to sell my note 3 for a long time, it's the best phone I've ever used since 2009 and I gave the g1 a try (never cared for cell phones til than). But even if I did sell it.. I know I could get back more cash from a 3rd party than I could from t mobile.
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Ugh I hate jump, it's a gimmick really. You have to give tmobile your damn near paid off phone for a new phone just to do the same thing over and over again. I understand this sounds good to some people but if you ask me it's never really your phone even though your making all these steep payments monthly. I don't think I'll be able to sell my note 3 for a long time, it's the best phone I've ever used since 2009 and I gave the g1 a try (never cared for cell phones til than). But even if I did sell it.. I know I could get back more cash from a 3rd party than I could from t mobile.
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For those of us grandfathered into the old JUMP it's an awesome deal. Here's how:
My wife has an HTC One. 0 down. $25 per month. After the 6 months she had paid $150 on it. The EIP when we traded it in was 430 IIRC. She jumped to a Note for $50 (tax). T-MOBILE paid off the rest of the old phone. The HTC One in perfect condition isn't going for anywhere near the 430 she owed on it.
The key is that if you pay 0 down AND don't paid a dime more then your payments you will make out in the end. ONLY if your on the old JUMP plan, the new one is a little rougher.
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If you root you might be screwed with the introduction of Knox 2.0. You might not want to make the jump till it cleared by a dev clearing Knox.
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Not quite, every phone is bound to have a root eventually. We have an unlocked bootloader, so it would be much easier. T-Mobile doesn't care about Knox, that's a Samsung thing. And If Knox 1 hasn't been able to be reset yet, i doubt version 2 will be exploited.
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For those of us grandfathered into the old JUMP it's an awesome deal. Here's how:
My wife has an HTC One. 0 down. $25 per month. After the 6 months she had paid $150 on it. The EIP when we traded it in was 430 IIRC. She jumped to a Note for $50 (tax). T-MOBILE paid off the rest of the old phone. The HTC One in perfect condition isn't going for anywhere near the 430 she owed on it.
The key is that if you pay 0 down AND don't paid a dime more then your payments you will make out in the end. ONLY if your on the old JUMP plan, the new one is a little rougher.
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I have the new jump plan, I just switched to tmobile around December. I had at&t before, so regardless, i'm use to paying $200 for a new phone. And considering how many people have got their note 3 with 0 down, I might have a chance at getting the S5 0 down. If not, paying around $150 for a new phone isn't at all bad when it retails for $700
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Not quite, every phone is bound to have a root eventually. We have an unlocked bootloader, so it would be much easier. T-Mobile doesn't care about Knox, that's a Samsung thing. And If Knox 1 hasn't been able to be reset yet, i doubt version 2 will be exploited.
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Well considering that they are gonna gave their own secure playstore to be used on the phones not to sure what direction they gonna go with it. They can change it at any giving time
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TL;DR? Read the title. Nitty-gritty is below.
My Verizon contract is done in May. But I have a deal where I can go to AT&T for free. That being said, at $88 a month on vzw, does it really make sense to wait for the new round of galaxy devices? The money I'd save leaving Verizon would pay for the phone in full by that time. I've got nothing to use on AT&T in the meantime.
It makes economic sense to leave vzw as soon as I can. That being said, the HTC one is coming out in a few weeks, right at the end of my billing cycle. My first and only smartphone has been this thunderbolt. I'm accustomed to HTC and sense. But the lack of swappable battery and SD card slot is something I'd consider a drawback. I can also trade in this tbolt for $100 with their trade in incentive program.
But of all the phones out right now, the Note 2 is the one I want. It just seems to be the perfect phone. I'm just worried about getting it so late in the game. I bet AT&T still charges full price for it too, probably $300 on contract, right? If I got a note, I'd probably want to sell it and put the proceeds toward the note 3, when it gets here...if it isn't 6 inches like the rumors say.
I care about rooting and flashing ROMs. I'd have smashed my bolt by now without those things. HTC seems to be locking down their stuff a lot these days, and if not them, then the US carriers. Is sammy any better?
Seems like the cheapest thing to do would be to ditch vzw asap, and score a HTC One and cash in on $100 for my old tbolt. And while I generally like HTC (wife has a HOX), I can't help shaking the feeling that I should get a note instead.
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I would wait for the S4 announcement. Then decide between that and the One.
Yes, wait until the S4 announcement and buy a used S3 on craigslist to carry you over until GN3. The sd card, replaceable battery, and S Pen are 3 important features. The LCD screen on HTC One X is one feature over GN2 but maybe a non issue with future GN3. BTW, GN2 has a ton of incredible developers on XDA.
I own the GN2 and HTC One XL through ATT. The GN2 is all I use.
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I'm always in a time crunch and end up with HTC because of it. I wanted the SGS2 in march of 2011, but at the time there were no signs it would be on Verizon, and we all knew unlimited data would be getting canned soon. So, I took a thunderbolt instead.
Now it appears to be the same problem. See, I'm not a "gets a new phone every three months" kinda guy. I have my phone for two years. I want those two years to be as tolerable as possible. Before ICS "officially" came out, my Tbolt felt like crap. Only now with an official release is it finally great again. Honestly, I could stay right here for awhile now, and be good.
But I'm cheap. I want to stop paying Verizon immediately, and start saving. To that end, I need something that'll work on AT&T. The line's there, the upgrade's there; it just seems silly to wait. You might be right about picking up an interim phone.
I just wonder if the note 2 will be valid for two years starting now? I also don't like how AT&T is still charging $ 300 plus a two year agreement for these things. Maybe I should get the one (probably $200 on contract), take advantage of the $100 trade in offer, and sell the one when the note 3 comes out...
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What determines to you whether or not a phone is still valid? I, like you, am planning on my next phone to last 2 years. The phone I have now is still valid in my opinion because the developer forums are very active even today. I think this phone will be more relevant two years from now than the HTC One. Like others said though, at least wait until the GS4 announcement, that may bring some price drops on the Note 2.
At the rate they are going now I don't think htc will be there to support anyone in a year or two.
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What determines to you whether or not a phone is still valid? I, like you, am planning on my next phone to last 2 years. The phone I have now is still valid in my opinion because the developer forums are very active even today. I think this phone will be more relevant two years from now than the HTC One. Like others said though, at least wait until the GS4 announcement, that may bring some price drops on the Note 2.
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+1
Also remember gadgets change every year! That's how company's make money. But besides that, they're making the chips smaller & smaller! So that just means bigger and better things for us. As of right now the screen of choice is going to be HD on everything, that's coming out. So depending on if you want LCD, Slcd, OLED, or Pen Tile displays. There's all going to be different in that aspect. So if you can hold out, which is what I'm telling my girl to do. But she may wait fir the GN3! Hey on 3/14 we'll know what the S4 is about :thumbup:.
My buddy builds the lasers that makes all our gadgets.
Check this video out a lil something that they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLNsYecX_2Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Note: Those new machines he's working on those now! 24/7 chip making
Wow...
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What determines to you whether or not a phone is still valid?
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Dev support is part of it. The thunderbolt forums were getting pretty sparse until ICS dropped. My phone was laggy, had modest battery life, and was seemingly stuck on gingerbread.
Specs might be somewhat less important now, but in 2011 phones were still becoming more powerful by an incredible factor. That seems to have slowed a bit of late. I don't know when a quad core phone with a big battery and 720p resolution will become obsolete.
Surely the ability to switch batteries and expand memory should prolong its life. But purchasing the one, besides potentially being cheaper, seems like a safer bet on the time/obsolescence scale. At this point the note 2 is somewhat old.
I really don't think we're witnessing the death knell of HTC any more than we are Apple's. They just aren't a household name to noobs like "the galaxy" and the "iphone." For what it's worth, I like HTC, and have to imagine them as the number 3 company that makes smartphones after Sammy and Apple.
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I'm going to say wait until the S4 announcement later this week. If you can get a chance to play with the One in store then do so. I don't know how it would feel in your hand compared to the Note 2. I personally am going to wait until the S4 or the Note 3 because I think Samsung is the leading manufacturer for Android phones in terms of overall experience. That being said the note 2 has a badass battery and I don't think that the One will be anywhere close to the note in that regards but let's see.... Only time will tell..
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Why get the HTC One now? They're going to release a HTC One+ 1-3 months from now like they did with the One X. Stick with Samsung :thumbup:.
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I use the S-Pen and the note function on my SGN2 constantly ... it is my most used feature on the phone. I'm not going to try and understand what you need ... but, you should. I wouldn't buy a phone without the pen and note function ... but, you might be different. Decide if you need the note functions on the Note 2 ... if you do to be productive ... then your decision is already made. Wait a few days to see the Galaxy 4 ... just in case it gets the S-Pen. ATT just started selling the Note 2 in October. It may be a while before the Note 3 arrives.
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I use the S-Pen and the note function on my SGN2 constantly ... it is my most used feature on the phone. I'm not going to try and understand what you need ... but, you should. I wouldn't buy a phone without the pen and note function ... but, you might be different. Decide if you need the note functions on the Note 2 ... if you do to be productive ... then your decision is already made. Wait a few days to see the Galaxy 4 ... just in case it gets the S-Pen. ATT just started selling the Note 2 in October. It may be a while before the Note 3 arrives.
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NOTE 3, well most likely b out this year also. Rumoured to b 5.9- 6.3 inches. But time will tell us all, what's in store for us. And things to coming soon!!
So we just have to wait & see
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NOTE 3, well most likely b out this year also. Rumoured to b 5.9- 6.3 inches. But time will tell us all, what's in store for us. And things to coming soon!!
So we just have to wait & see
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Note 2 refurbished is now $9.99 on Att online. Of course this is 3 days after the return of period on my New one!
With the refurb offer, hmmm. If I take that, then I retain my 'bolt...which I would have traded in for HTC'S one deal. This way I keep the phone and can sell it with the accessories, mebbe for more on swappa...
I know it's refurb, but I usually roll with insurance anyway...
Very very tempted here...
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
The Note 2 refurb is actually $0.99 today only while supplies last. I ordered one a couple hours ago.
As long as I have access to the community's knowledgebase, then I don't see how a refurb could be bad. (famous last words,eh?)
What do you suppose the most common reason for returning a Note 2 is?
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Dannar said:
With the refurb offer, hmmm. If I take that, then I retain my 'bolt...which I would have traded in for HTC'S one deal. This way I keep the phone and can sell it with the accessories, mebbe for more on swappa...
I know it's refurb, but I usually roll with insurance anyway...
Very very tempted here...
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Actually, for anyone who's worrying about this being refurbished, they will definitely replace the phone in question with a brand new model if problems do arise. My mom bought an iPhone 4 (refurbished) a few years back and it didn't work correctly from day one, so she brought it to the Apple Store and they gave her a brand new one. My Samsung Galaxy S II (refurbished) fried itself right before my 90 day warranty ended and I took it to AT&T and they gave me a new one.
My point is, if you can get a MUCH better deal on a refurb, don't hesitate to get it because AT&T/Apple/whoever will replace it if it does have a problem and you will probably end up with a new phone anyhow.
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As long as I have access to the community's knowledgebase, then I don't see how a refurb could be bad. (famous last words,eh?)
What do you suppose the most common reason for returning a Note 2 is?
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Because of a nice 20% discount I have, and being on a robust family share plan, I am pretty much chained to AT&T as far as saving me money. I owned every iPhone up to the iPhone 5, I returned it after a week and went to the Galaxy S3. I loved it, I loved the cutomization, tweaks, and feeling like I could do what I want with the phone. I enjoyed the iPhone Jailbreaking but the noose was getting tighter and tighter. I went next to the Note 3 and loved it as well, I felt free and like my device was my device, I could do what I wanted.
Sadly with the Note 4, although I have enjoyed it, if I could go back, I would have kept my Note 3. I know the screen is better, and my battery life is actually better then my Note 3, but I just feel like Samsung/AT&T puts me in a tough spot. Sure custom roms, and rooted devices isn't for everyone, but if I am going to pay $800 for a phone, I should be able to do what I want with it. I wouldn't buy a GPU or CPU that I couldn't tweak or overclock, its just my personality I guess and how I feel about my devices and the money I spend on them.
Does anyone else feel like they will be reconsidering their next phone purchase according to the state of the devices bootloader and ability to root and put on custom roms? I have been loving Sammy, but next year I WILL NOT be getting the Note 5 if things are the same. Interested in you guys thoughts on the matter.
I don't think anyone is excited about the locked boot loader.
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I don't think anyone is excited about the locked boot loader.
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I know that no one is "excited" about it, just wondering if for anyone else it is going to impact their purchasing decision as well. Again it was a big reason I got away from the iPhone myself.
I pulled the trigger a bit too early and got the AT&T Note 4 on release day and ended up taking it back 4 days later just because of the locked boot loader. Picking up a T-Mobile Note 4 tomorrow and using it on AT&T.
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Because of a nice 20% discount I have, and being on a robust family share plan, I am pretty much chained to AT&T as far as saving me money. I owned every iPhone up to the iPhone 5, I returned it after a week and went to the Galaxy S3. I loved it, I loved the cutomization, tweaks, and feeling like I could do what I want with the phone. I enjoyed the iPhone Jailbreaking but the noose was getting tighter and tighter. I went next to the Note 3 and loved it as well, I felt free and like my device was my device, I could do what I wanted.
Sadly with the Note 4, although I have enjoyed it, if I could go back, I would have kept my Note 3. I know the screen is better, and my battery life is actually better then my Note 3, but I just feel like Samsung/AT&T puts me in a tough spot. Sure custom roms, and rooted devices isn't for everyone, but if I am going to pay $800 for a phone, I should be able to do what I want with it. I wouldn't buy a GPU or CPU that I couldn't tweak or overclock, its just my personality I guess and how I feel about my devices and the money I spend on them.
Does anyone else feel like they will be reconsidering their next phone purchase according to the state of the devices bootloader and ability to root and put on custom roms? I have been loving Sammy, but next year I WILL NOT be getting the Note 5 if things are the same. Interested in you guys thoughts on the matter.
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YEP I am still on an international Note II. Until i know for sure which International Note 4 will work on ATT :LTE, there is no reason to switch devices for me. I don't have LTE now so I am not missing anything. Otherwise I will wait for the prices to drop and buy the ATT version and live with it. I won;t pay $800 for a locked device unless its unlocked and rootable and at this point works on ATT LTE. I am reading of some people with the 910C working in US ATT with LTE. But I am not convinced yet.
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YEP I am still on an international Note II. Until i know for sure which International Note 4 will work on ATT :LTE, there is no reason to switch devices for me. I don't have LTE now so I am not missing anything. Otherwise I will wait for the prices to drop and buy the ATT version and live with it. I won;t pay $800 for a locked device unless its unlocked and rootable and at this point works on ATT LTE. I am reading of some people with the 910C working in US ATT with LTE. But I am not convinced yet.
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I had an international note 1 before LTE was a big deal. Then I went with Tmobile for the note 3. Why not get what has been proven to work for the note 4 and get the 910T? You also have the option of switching carriers in the future and higher resale value here in the US. The international roms are ported over so you get the latest and greatest too.
I got a small discount for an ATT Note 4. I am on TMO and should have just paid the extra for the TMO version. Never doing this locked bootloader thing again. I just want root to restore full access to the microSD. Hopefully we'll get root before Lollipop...
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I got a small discount for an ATT Note 4. I am on TMO and should have just paid the extra for the TMO version. Never doing this locked bootloader thing again. I just want root to restore full access to the microSD. Hopefully we'll get root before Lollipop...
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Not being a negative Nancy, but I doubt root will happen anytime soon.
Just be honest all you guys are just Flashaholics and that's very addicted, I do understand your points i am a Developer for Roms , So for now The Note 4 i Got AT&T is running Amazing fast and i am in no hurry for root or a custom recovery if it even ever happens which i am sure it will, And of course i wouldn't mind it being unlocked and rooted, If it happens then i'll start Developing Roms again for my Device NOTE 4 , But i am enjoying the phone just the way it is, So all of you's gonna have to wait, If not do like some are doing which isn't working 100% if traveling a lot on T-Mobile it will fail certain areas for AT&T Service!
Another Thing is this won't last forever as all phones are gonna keep getting locked on all Providers it will Happen to T-Mobile and International, Sooner or later in the future there's not gonna be any Root and unlocked phones, it will keep getting worst!
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Just be honest all you guys are just Flashaholics and that's very addicted, I do understand your points i am a Developer for Roms , So for now The Note 4 i Got AT&T is running Amazing fast and i am in no hurry for root or a custom recovery if it even ever happens which i am sure it will, And of course i wouldn't mind it being unlocked and rooted, If it happens then i'll start Developing Roms again for my Device NOTE 4 , But i am enjoying the phone just the way it is, So all of you's gonna have to wait, If not do like some are doing which isn't working 100% if traveling a lot on T-Mobile it will fail certain areas for AT&T Service!
Another Thing is this won't last forever as all phones are gonna keep getting locked on all Providers it will Happen to T-Mobile and International, Sooner or later in the future there's not gonna be any Root and unlocked phones, it will keep getting worst!
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I disagree that some point in the future all phones will be locked. Baloney. At that point the community will shift and we will all own that limited edition CM phone that came out (my friend got one). Open source and Android filled a gap where there was one before. We supported them, and now that they are so big and popular they crack down. It's only a matter of time before another giant rises from the mist and we throw our support behind that. I am a flashaholic and there is nothing wrong with that. But I will also add there are performance issues with the note 4, my ram usage is 2 gb on boot, and without greenify so many of my apps are causing wake locks in the background.
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I disagree that some point in the future all phones will be locked. Baloney. At that point the community will shift and we will all own that limited edition CM phone that came out (my friend got one). Open source and Android filled a gap where there was one before. We supported them, and now that they are so big and popular they crack down. It's only a matter of time before another giant rises from the mist and we throw our support behind that. I am a flashaholic and there is nothing wrong with that. But I will also add there are performance issues with the note 4, my ram usage is 2 gb on boot, and without greenify so many of my apps are causing wake locks in the background.
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I understand my friend, i wouldn't mind it being unlocked and rooted like i said i develope roms, and as of now i have no issues at all with my note 4 it's running at least 2.6 on ram from 3gb of ram and i haven't had one issue at all no lags what's so ever performance is excellent as it is right now.
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I understand my friend, i wouldn't mind it being unlocked and rooted like i said i develope roms, and as of now i have no issues at all with my note 4 it's running at least 2.6 on ram from 3gb of ram and i haven't had one issue at all no lags what's so ever performance is excellent as it is right now.
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Oh ram use on mines shows 787 mb being used.
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That might be how much is free but no way that's how much is being used. I've even restored a couple times, it doesn't drop that low even disabling bloatware. I'd like to see a screen shot, and any info on how if possible you pulled thst miracle off?
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If not do like some are doing which isn't working 100% if traveling a lot on T-Mobile it will fail certain areas for AT&T Service!
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Really? I've been following this note 4 forum closely ever since it started and I haven't heard of the 910T "failing" in certain areas to get AT&T service. Can you cite any? I'd like to read them. I searched. I have heard nothing but good things and technically it should be 100% compatible except for LTE Advanced which is in a few cities and only for capacity. So normal LTE will work just as good/fast.
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Really? I've been following this note 4 forum closely ever since it started and I haven't heard of the 910T "failing" in certain areas to get AT&T service. Can you cite any? I'd like to read them. I searched. I have heard nothing but good things and technically it should be 100% compatible except for LTE Advanced which is in a few cities and only for capacity. So normal LTE should work just as good/fast.
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Look for some of my post can't link them since I'm at work but lots are having this issue.
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Look for some of my post can't link them since I'm at work but lots are having this issue.
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Ahhhhh, ok. I looked at your post history. I think you are a bit confused.
This post below by JasonJoel was referring to T-mobile service not the 910t on AT&T service.
"I can tell you from personal experience that if you go 10 miles outside of Austin you will have no data service with T-Mobile.
Heck I would lose data even staying on interstate going from Austin to Dallas. Let alone any back roads.
But whatever. If it works for you, then cool!"
And then your response talks about the 910t failing to get AT&T service. I think your friend must have had some settings wrong. Was this the N4 or N3?
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Ahhhhh, ok. I looked at your post history. I think you are a bit confused.
This post below by JasonJoel was referring to T-mobile service not the 910t on AT&T service.
"I can tell you from personal experience that if you go 10 miles outside of Austin you will have no data service with T-Mobile.
Heck I would lose data even staying on interstate going from Austin to Dallas. Let alone any back roads.
But whatever. If it works for you, then cool!"
And then your response talks about the 910t failing to get AT&T service. I think your friend must have had some settings wrong. Was this the N4 or N3?
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Was note 4 and all settings were correct, i checked myself and did some testing on his phone and same thing happens plus i am a Developer so i knew what i was looking for and checking.
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Because of a nice 20% discount I have, and being on a robust family share plan, I am pretty much chained to AT&T as far as saving me money. I owned every iPhone up to the iPhone 5, I returned it after a week and went to the Galaxy S3. I loved it, I loved the cutomization, tweaks, and feeling like I could do what I want with the phone. I enjoyed the iPhone Jailbreaking but the noose was getting tighter and tighter. I went next to the Note 3 and loved it as well, I felt free and like my device was my device, I could do what I wanted.
Sadly with the Note 4, although I have enjoyed it, if I could go back, I would have kept my Note 3. I know the screen is better, and my battery life is actually better then my Note 3, but I just feel like Samsung/AT&T puts me in a tough spot. Sure custom roms, and rooted devices isn't for everyone, but if I am going to pay $800 for a phone, I should be able to do what I want with it. I wouldn't buy a GPU or CPU that I couldn't tweak or overclock, its just my personality I guess and how I feel about my devices and the money I spend on them.
Does anyone else feel like they will be reconsidering their next phone purchase according to the state of the devices bootloader and ability to root and put on custom roms? I have been loving Sammy, but next year I WILL NOT be getting the Note 5 if things are the same. Interested in you guys thoughts on the matter.
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I got lucky I got them to trade my N4 for a Nexus 6 with a larger window because of the delay on the Nexus, so yeah I am bugging out this Gen and never looking back towards SAmmy again!
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I've owned nothing but Android Phablets going back to the Dell Streak. Then copped the Note 1, 2 and now this one. If there's at least no root within the next year, i'll seriously consider getting a Iphone 6 plus. I felt the whole purpose of Android was freedom of choice and customization. None of apps that were running on my Note 2 are worth a darn since Titanium Backup is useless w/o root. I relied pretty heavy on TB. Freezing apps, backups scheduled weekly.
Since i got this phone two weeks ago, I've had a couple of freezes after phone calls. A "little" lag but nothing too heavy. I'm not liking this at all for overall. Sad face!!!
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Because of a nice 20% discount I have, and being on a robust family share plan, I am pretty much chained to AT&T as far as saving me money. I owned every iPhone up to the iPhone 5, I returned it after a week and went to the Galaxy S3. I loved it, I loved the cutomization, tweaks, and feeling like I could do what I want with the phone. I enjoyed the iPhone Jailbreaking but the noose was getting tighter and tighter. I went next to the Note 3 and loved it as well, I felt free and like my device was my device, I could do what I wanted.
Sadly with the Note 4, although I have enjoyed it, if I could go back, I would have kept my Note 3. I know the screen is better, and my battery life is actually better then my Note 3, but I just feel like Samsung/AT&T puts me in a tough spot. Sure custom roms, and rooted devices isn't for everyone, but if I am going to pay $800 for a phone, I should be able to do what I want with it. I wouldn't buy a GPU or CPU that I couldn't tweak or overclock, its just my personality I guess and how I feel about my devices and the money I spend on them.
Does anyone else feel like they will be reconsidering their next phone purchase according to the state of the devices bootloader and ability to root and put on custom roms? I have been loving Sammy, but next year I WILL NOT be getting the Note 5 if things are the same. Interested in you guys thoughts on the matter.
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I had an international note 1 before LTE was a big deal. Then I went with Tmobile for the note 3. Why not get what has been proven to work for the note 4 and get the 910T? You also have the option of switching carriers in the future and higher resale value here in the US. The international roms are ported over so you get the latest and greatest too.
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That is exactly what I did. Bought on off Swappa slightly used rommed and rooted. $690. I have the unlock code coming and hope to use it on ATT by next week. I did not want to have to join T Mobile for a month. Swappa has a few of them available. :good:
If I like the specs and features of the next one, I will get that also.
Rooting is a luxury to me, not a necessity as it is for some.
My current phone is a Note 4. I've been a Sammy user since Galaxy was introduced (started with Captivate, as I"m on AT&T.)
So, interestingly, I"m not very happy with the Note 4:
AT&T issue - Not rootable. (I don't care any longer for custom ROMS, but miss some capabilities that root offers)
I have several little crazy issues, but 2 main ones are: Google voice prompt speaker whistles with feedback when first say 'OK Google' (Got a replacement and same issue on it); Can't get any app to consistently read texts over BT while driving.
I think the bloatware is causing some performance problems for me. I have disabled several and it did help.
I have a LOT of apps installed. Always have. Counting bloatware that may not be disabled, I have around 150.
Oh, also, I have lots of problems with Pandora on this phone. When the accessory is launched from my car, often it fails. When I play Pandora app, it often quits playing if it is not the front/active app. Very annoying.
If multitasking, it definitely has strong lags.
So I was thinking that the Note 5 would be my final phone for a while (actually thought that about this one). But I read that the 4GB is half used up on initial boot. So, I'm thinking I need to move to something less bloated. I don't have any confidence that the Note 5 would be rootable, I did have confidence that it would be eventually on the Note 4...but it's taking a long time.
Given my large app list, I'm thinking thatI should not settle for less than 4GB . Less bloat may help that issue...look at a pure Android experience maybe. (Of course chasing that via a custom ROM may be an alternative...but we know the status of that on the Note 4. Plus, in the past I've tried a lot of different ROMS, including popular 'stable' ones, and they ALL have bugs.)
I'm hoping to get something that works much better hands free. Haven't had much luck with that with any of my Android phones. I had much better luck with that way back when I was on Microsoft's phone OS, before Windows phone...with Microsoft's Voice Command.
Thinking of switching to Tmobile. Trade in the Note 4 for a Moto X style. Great specs for $399. It'll be easy to pay off. Service monthly payments will be cheaper then att.
But I've invested money in a gear vr and cases. Still deciding and looking at other devices.
Also most Samsung phones on Tmobile are or at most times get root.
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I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.
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Thinking of switching to Tmobile. Trade in the Note 4 for a Moto X style. Great specs for $399. It'll be easy to pay off. Service monthly payments will be cheaper then att.
But I've invested money in a gear vr and cases. Still deciding and looking at other devices.
Also most Samsung phones on Tmobile are or at most times get root.
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I actually considered purchasing a TMobile one when I got this one. Could still sell/change...but I've lost confidence in the Samsung brand working. I hear good things about the Moto phones. I'm considering the Pure...but given my penchant for a lot of apps (none of them games), I'm thinking I need 4 GB RAM.
I don't want to change to TMobile due to less coverage. I have considered moving to Verizon to bet better data speed in my area (St. Augustine, FL), but they would cost me more than AT&T, and I'm not sure I would get better data speeds.
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I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.
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Sounds pretty much for sure it won't have the SD. But even if it does, in my case, I'm just ready to move away from Samsung. Of course, I could find I have as much trouble getting what I want it to do with any of them.
I checked on the Moto site, and it says we can test for 14 days and return for free if not happy. I may just give that a whirl.
There is no expandable memory on the Note 5
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I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.
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I used the note 5, it's the same memory as the s6, you shouldn't be surprised. And you should have no hope for root or an unlock on any att or verizon phone. Seriously, you all know what to expect, but the phone from tmobile or the international version.
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There is no expandable memory on the Note 5
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Yup, as I said, that's what is being reported.
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I used the note 5, it's the same memory as the s6, you shouldn't be surprised. And you should have no hope for root or an unlock on any att or verizon phone. Seriously, you all know what to expect, but the phone from tmobile or the international version.
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No surprise to me. That's part of why I'm ditching Samsung. Maybe my posts haven't been quite clear about that though.
I got to see and hold the note 5, just confirming the reports of no expandable media.
The point of this thread is .... ?
I feel you big time. I also love big ole sammy, but bloat is a huge problem. I have been using the GS6 edge for the last week and I will say I love it. My note 4 is sooooo sssluuggish. Its gets frustrating. I also have a lot of app.s. Maybe that is the problem. I got this to be my everyday device. A phablet. But I am really leaning the direction of just having my nexus for reading/gaming and a phone for social. That has really been working for me this past week. The GS6 Edge is very snappy and the less bloat on these new phones help a lot. I aloso disabled a bunch and put on nova on and call me speedy gonzalez because I am flying.
Yep me too! My next phone will definitely have to be the One plus Two or Moto X 2015. It all depends on what I can get my hands on first. I love Samsung, but if I can't have my freedom on what I wanna do with my phone, there's no point of having an android version of an iPhone. Because if those were my only two options, iPhone would be my first choice. I choose Android because of Root, and customization. Not stupid Knox and carriers locking the bootloader crap. I wish I would've kept my jailbroken iPhone if I knew that were the case. So yeah definitely One plus Two, maybe Moto X if it's unlockable and rootable
Since some Notes are locked down and others not,shouldn't everyone's anger be placed on the carrier? Obviously AT&T and Verizon are the ones at fault. If you like the Note series buy unlocked or go for the guaranteed unlocked Nexus. I have both so when I want to mess around I have the Nexus and sometimes it's nice to trade off to the full featured Note. It really is the best way to go and keeps my anger to a minimum. I have to say with the Nexus you never have these back and forth games and you can do whatever you want without worrying about an update locking you out for the long term.
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The point of this thread is .... ?
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This is general discussion about att note 4. This is what op is doing. Please be more kind to people.
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The point of this thread is .... ?
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I think the purpose is more obvious than your contribution to the thread.
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This is general discussion about att note 4. This is what op is doing. Please be more kind to people.
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Yup, generate discussion. I think it's been pretty successful at doing that.
May try T-Mobile Note 4 - Root...
Before I abandon Samsung, I may try abandoning the AT&T version of the Note 4.
I haven't been interested in putting on ROMS (did that a lot on previous phones, and I find even for those that are touted as 'solid', there are always one bug or another), but maybe that is what I should do. Been reading on various ROMS over on the T-Mobile forum.
So, if I do this, next I need to decide whether to abandon TW (I do like some of the features...), then if not, whether to install a KitKat or LP ROM. I may try one or both of those options, then if not happy, try AOSP.
Then if not happy, maybe by then there will be reviews out on others I'm considering...although the Nexus has to arrive. From what I'm seeing, it'll be October before that gets out.
My anger is with ATT for being locked down and even more so Samsung. Their greed is borderline criminal IMHO. There is absolutely no reason why the Note 4 and Edge cannot have the updated Touchwiz. Wish I had stuck with my Nexus 6, but only gave up on it because it didn't take advantage of the big screen and Android M took care of that. Been trying to trade my Edge for a G4 or N6 for weeks now.
Still seriously confused why some st**id carriers locked down phones? Should have make some research before trading my trustworthy Note 3 for Note 4 at&t. I don't see this device having unlocked bootloader soon G4 callling
I had faith they would break it and be able to root it. Seems that the developers for Samsung or AT&T is finally getting ahead of our developers and winning that battle.
I no longer have faith the AT&T will get rooted.
In fact, it's starting to feel like the leanings are headed to no root more and more.
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I had faith they would break it and be able to root it. Seems that the developers for Samsung or AT&T is finally getting ahead of our developers and winning that battle.
I no longer have faith the AT&T will get rooted.
In fact, it's starting to feel like the leanings are headed to no root more and more.
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Lol also 2nd ur opinion. I gave up on this phone been root able, deal is the phone is fast still so I don't have the need to root lol but I do have a gear s from att?which I would like to one day install a Droid port but sucks is att and locked. Stupid carrier
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Still seriously confused why some st**id carriers locked down phones? Should have make some research before trading my trustworthy Note 3 for Note 4 at&t. I don't see this device having unlocked bootloader soon G4 callling
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The locking of bootloaders is to exponentially increase security in order to gain military, government and corporate contracts...which they did. Verizon and AT&T Samsung devices were rated highest in security in today's market. T-Mobile and Sprint chose not to most likely because they do not have the coverage country-wide to encourage those sales.
I already have a Note 3 but would love to try a Gear VR. Finally found an okay price for a Note 4 on craigslist today and was excited to give it a go. I'm on tmobile but my verizon Note 3 functions just fine so I thought I'd "upgrade."
So far ... I kind of hate it.
The fact that this phone can't be rooted (because of Verizon?) wouldn't be quite so depressing if it weren't for the hideous pastel colors staring me in the face every time I pull down the tool bar or open a menu ... Yes I've installed a custom launcher but it doesn't change the 80's era color scheme ... This is 2015. I can't choose the background color on my own damn phone? Really?
I had my Note 3 setup the way I wanted it to look with a rom that gave me a lot of options, and going from having control over aesthetics to having basically no control over them is a shock. Like moving from a house you own and can paint any color you want to an awful pastel apartment that you can't paint because the landlord won't let you.
The lockscreen. I liked the option on my Note 3 to pick the effect when unlocking my phone. The rippling water effect was my favorite. Now I have ... no such option? The choice to change it seems to be grayed out?
The heat. Running low graphic Cardboard apps and the back of this phone seems to be getting awfully warm awfully fast. Haven't tried anything really intensive yet but I'm already worried about heat.
Speed. Not notably faster (no pun intended) than my customized Note 3. Apps that were slow on the 3 ... are still slow on this phone. Menus seem to open at about the same speed or possibly even slower.
Pixel density. I thought having a higher resolution screen would mean less visible picture structure ... Not really seeing it. I can look at my two phones side by side and unless I zoom in, there is not that much visible difference in image quality, except ...
The one good thing:
The camera. Took a couple of photos and am really impressed by the amount of detail that shows up. Definitely a big leap over the camera in my Note 3 ...
But ... I'm thinking maybe I should sell this to someone else on craigslist and go back to my Note 3.
Anyone else have a similar reaction? Am I missing something here?
Honestly only you can answer that question. In regards to root, only DE have it as far as I know for any carrier. If you HAVE to have root, then it might have been a mistake.
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Honestly only you can answer that question. In regards to root, only DE have it as far as I know for any carrier. If you HAVE to have root, then it might have been a mistake.
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Actually the Note 4 on Sprint and T-Mobile are both rootable. Verizon and AT&T are the a**holes here. Actually @Haints you just made the same mistake most other people did. You didn't do the research before you spent your money. Because I've been practically living in this forum for 4 years I've seen the day when Verizon would lock a phone down to where nobody would be able to root it coming. I bought a Note 4 Developer Edition.
What a terrible corporate policy. WHY do they do that? Well, I've learned my lesson. I will never buy a Verizon phone again. ( Scratch that. Sounds like you never really "own" a Verizon phone to begin with, since they lock it down to keep the OS the way they want it. I will never ... rent a Verizon phone again?)
I did figure out how to change the lock option, and I do like the phone, apart from the choices I'm locked out of ... but having freely owned a phone before, I can't forget what that feels like. So f*ck Verizon.
And yes, Stuey, I did err by not doing my research here. The Verizon Note popped up on craigslist at a good price and I jumped at it. My mistake.
Thanks to you both for responding!
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What a terrible corporate policy. WHY do they do that? Well, I've learned my lesson. I will never buy a Verizon phone again. ( Scratch that. Sounds like you never really "own" a Verizon phone to begin with, since they lock it down to keep the OS the way they want it. I will never ... rent a Verizon phone again?)
I did figure out how to change the lock option, and I do like the phone, apart from the choices I'm locked out of ... but having freely owned a phone before, I can't forget what that feels like. So f*ck Verizon.
And yes, Stuey, I did err by not doing my research here. The Verizon Note popped up on craigslist at a good price and I jumped at it. My mistake.
Thanks to you both for responding!
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You're not the only one. It's heartbreaking to see this happen to so many people. The Verizon Note 4 forums are depressing. Pretty much all of us plan to leave Verizon someday. The only reason I'm still with them is T-Mo and Sprint suck so bad around here. I'm just hoping for them to improve some.
The reason they do it is because locking them makes them more secure. All of the big corporate and government accounts like them that way. Hackers are becoming more of a problem. Verizon makes a lot of extra money because they are more secure than the others. We'll probably all lose our rootable phones soon.
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You're not the only one. It's heartbreaking to see this happen to so many people. The Verizon Note 4 forums are depressing. Pretty much all of us plan to leave Verizon someday. The only reason I'm still with them is T-Mo and Sprint suck so bad around here. I'm just hoping for them to improve some.
The reason they do it is because locking them makes them more secure. All of the big corporate and government accounts like them that way. Hackers are becoming more of a problem. Verizon makes a lot of extra money because they are more secure than the others. We'll probably all lose our rootable phones soon.
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I've already given up.
I've been stuck with the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 ever since it launched last year...I bought it right as it came out, expecting that it would get root at some point like previous phones.
Every single day I've visited these forums, patiently waiting for a permanent root. I have so much pent-up frustration over waiting that I recently splurged on a 128 GB Frost Huawei Nexus 6P and permanently canceled my Verizon contract. I gave up.
I've been a loyal Verizon customer since 2007 with previous phones rooted and I just couldn't stand it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like a child not being able to do what I want with a phone that I purchased with MY money.
I hope they realize that they're going to be losing loyal customers like me at a rapid pace over digging their heels on this ridiculous policy.
I preordered the retail version at upgrade price ($300) and sold it a month later for $590 after giving up on waiting for root. Then paid an extra $110 for the developer edition. So I paid for a developer edition for $410 instead of $700. I wish I thought about this once I got the phone to sell it for more but overall I still came out on top. The DE Note 4 is the best phone out right now on Verizon. Nothing compares, yet. And I still have unlimited data but I hear they are changing the price to $50 a month for people who are grandfathered in D:
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I've already given up.
I've been stuck with the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 ever since it launched last year...I bought it right as it came out, expecting that it would get root at some point like previous phones.
Every single day I've visited these forums, patiently waiting for a permanent root. I have so much pent-up frustration over waiting that I recently splurged on a 128 GB Frost Huawei Nexus 6P and permanently canceled my Verizon contract. I gave up.
I've been a loyal Verizon customer since 2007 with previous phones rooted and I just couldn't stand it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like a child not being able to do what I want with a phone that I purchased with MY money.
I hope they realize that they're going to be losing loyal customers like me at a rapid pace over digging their heels on this ridiculous policy.
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I'm sure there will be more like you.
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I've already given up.
I've been stuck with the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 ever since it launched last year...I bought it right as it came out, expecting that it would get root at some point like previous phones.
Every single day I've visited these forums, patiently waiting for a permanent root. I have so much pent-up frustration over waiting that I recently splurged on a 128 GB Frost Huawei Nexus 6P and permanently canceled my Verizon contract. I gave up.
I've been a loyal Verizon customer since 2007 with previous phones rooted and I just couldn't stand it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like a child not being able to do what I want with a phone that I purchased with MY money.
I hope they realize that they're going to be losing loyal customers like me at a rapid pace over digging their heels on this ridiculous policy.
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Unfortunately, VZW doesn't care. People who root their devices make up a small percentage of their customers. VZW is more concerned about promoting safety and security.
I was an iPhone user up to the release of iPhone 6. Decided to get Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (verizon) because of easy access to change battery. (As each new iPhone model made seems to make it more difficult.) I've had the Note for over a year. I keep telling myself that I'll get used to it. I haven't yet. I hate it! I fight with it every time I want to do a simple task. On top of how confusing it is to use compared to iPhone. Battery drains fast. Screen turns on randomly. And now any app I try to install from google play AND amazon app, it just hangs saying, "installing.........."-google play. And "install pending........"-amazon. It's been like that for 48 hours now. WTH? I have 10 gigs free'd up. I restarted app, restarted phone tried searching Forums. YES, I hate this phone. And if Samsung drops support on this phone, I'm going to drop my support for Samsung products.
Yeah you screwed up just like the rest of us. I came from ATT, who are assholes by the way, and am pretty much gonna dump Verizon when my contract is up. I will buy my own phones from now on, no more carrier branded, locked out , **** phones like this one. The Note 4, when locked down, is actually a turd. its slow, it crashes and pretty much just all around sucks. Root would make this a great phone, but there will never be root until long after this phone is ancient and useless.
They say Android 6 will fix the issues that Android 5 caused. The Note 4 with Android 4.4 ran good. The latest word is Android 6 will come in February.
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They say Android 6 will fix the issues that Android 5 caused. The Note 4 with Android 4.4 ran good. The latest word is Android 6 will come in February.
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By that time the Note 4 will be an ancient turd. I liked my Note 2 waaaay better than this piece of garbage.
Was thinking of switching to a Pixel but I went through a fairly nasty preorder fail with Verizon & Google so I wash my hands of that phone
Would like to hold on to the Note 7 until the Galaxy S8 release, what's the general consensus will Verizon kill the Note 7 off by either February or April
when the expected debut for the S8 is to allegedly arrive?
I'm in the same boat except I actually got my silver 128gb Pixel XL a day before launch and returned it. Reactivated my Note 7. I don't see how they can charge us for the device, they paid off the contract. Phone is my property. I plan to ride this until the S8 comes out...
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All we can do is ride it out if we choose to keep it. I'm happy I did so far. I don't see that changing any time soon.
Verizon can take my payments for the phone at any time. I have a surplus in my Verizon account to do so. I did not default in any way. So, we will see.
They can't charge you for it if the terms of the contract were satisfied by the contract being paid off, at which time the device becomes your property. That's my take on it. I don't want anything they are offering right now..... so I'll wait..
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Basically, all I'm doing is accumulating one month's phone bill over the course of 10 months. So when the Note8 is released I'll still have my upgrade in tact, I'll be able to get an early upgradeable Note9, and I can skip a phone payment 10 months from now.
I was advised that this course was the safest course and should disallow even the blocking of my phone's IMEI. But, as I said, we shall see. I was advised that the course I have chosen allows for legal recourse and is defensible if need be.
But, I am not an attorney.
Lol, nobody is getting legally involved over a 800 dollar smartphone that was written off...
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Lol, good then. Either way, no skin off my back if they do or not.
I'm keeping my Note 7 and got a V20. This whole Note 7 situation kind of worked out really since we got to keep a $900 device :]
imucarmen said:
I'm keeping my Note 7 and got a V20. This whole Note 7 situation kind of worked out really since we got to keep a $900 device :]
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Lol it's not a free device, you upgraded so they will come looking for it.
jjayzx said:
Lol it's not a free device, you upgraded so they will come looking for it.
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No they won't. Verizon already wiped it off people's account and are treating it as if it never existed.
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No they won't. Verizon already wiped it off people's account and are treating it as if it never existed.
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Lol keep dreaming and block updates http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/4/13527524/samsung-note-7-recall-85-percent-devices-returned-us
jjayzx said:
Lol keep dreaming and block updates http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/4/13527524/samsung-note-7-recall-85-percent-devices-returned-us
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Of course I have turned off updates and I get no annoying pop-ups. I have spoken with Verizon on the phone and they show no record of me ever owning a Note 7. Verizon are treating the device as if it never existed. I'm not a novice user and actually have had a thread here on XDA for over a month showing people all the possible apps and services they can disable. I currently have near 170 apps and services turned off and there is no way I'll ever get any OTA's or annoying pop-ups. My Note 7 is locked from outside interference and I just use it as a Wi-Fi device now.
If Verizon ever intended on charging people for the device after the second recall they would not have wiped it off people's account before they returned it but would rather have told people they must return it first.