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Wildfire ROM update - backup questions

Hi everyone,
I'm using a HTC Wildfire and am considering changing from stock (HTC non-branded) to CyanogenMod for a number of minor reasons. Could anyone just confirm that I got a few points right before I get started:
- Recovery is totally independent from the ROM itself, right? So I can flash ClockWorkMod Recovery only, continue to use the stock ROM, but have the additional features of ClockWorkMod available, such as backup, with which I can create a complete backup of the stock ROM. In case I don't like CyanogenMod, I can restore the stock image and be exactly where I left it, Apps, Settings and everything (of course the new Recovery will still be installed.) Is this correct?
- I'm planning to do the following steps (I read about the details, just want to confirm the basics):
x use the Revolutionary way to S-OFF and install new Recovery
x create full image backup of the stock ROM using the new Recovery
x install new ROM (ClockWorkMod)
x if I don't like CM: restore image created before to return to stock
-> This should work, shouldn't it?
- One more: What will happen if the the phone is S-OFF, an alternative Recovery is installed, and a HTC Firmware-Update is attempted? Will this work at all, will it update just the ROM, or will it update the Recovery, too? S-OFF will not be changed back to S-ON, right?
Thanks for your help.
Regards

1. Yes, the recovery is in it's own partition and is independent from the ROM
2. The recovery creates a "snapshot" of your current ROM. So when you restore, it'll be just the way you left it.
3. There's no need to do any HTC Firmware updates after installing a custom ROM (infact, I'm almost 100% sure that it won't work)

As a basic answer yes you go ahead with what you posted.just make sure your hboot version is compatible with revolutionary 1st etc etc.
As for HTC firmware update question,if your talking about the over the air updates I'm not sure but I think it would update your hboot thus reverting back to s-on status again so best not accept it if you do get one (turn off in settings)
Edit : ninja'd lol
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slymobi said:
As a basic answer yes you go ahead with what you posted.just make sure your hboot version is compatible with revolutionary 1st etc etc.
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Yes, of course.
As for HTC firmware update question,if your talking about the over the air updates [...]
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No, the manual ones you can download directly from HTC and install via USB. My understanding was that this would kill everything flashable, including radio and recovery. It would be reassuring to have a worst-case way to go back to stock in case the image-restore fails for whatever reason.

150d said:
Yes, of course.
No, the manual ones you can download directly from HTC and install via USB. My understanding was that this would kill everything flashable, including radio and recovery. It would be reassuring to have a worst-case way to go back to stock in case the image-restore fails for whatever reason.
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Ah sorry never dealt with any firmware updates. There are ruu.exe to help get back to stock if something goes wrong I think.
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You can go completely back to stock, s-on and all but believe me once you have cwm installed there really is no point unless its for warranty reasons, backup fails are rare with the latest recoveries + if it does fail with your first backup you can always post here and we will explain how to extract a stock Rom from an ruu to put things back to how they where before or you can flash a custom sense Rom and modify it to your liking.
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Scratch0805 said:
You can go completely back to stock, s-on and all
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That's great.
[...] but believe me once you have cwm installed there really is no point unless its for warranty reasons[...]
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Yea, exactly. I'm a little on the paranoid side, I know... ;-)
Ok, I'm on my way now. I've performed the "Revolutionary" S-OFF and am now running "Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4". Is this an out-of-date version?
I've read about ROM-Manager being able to auto-check for and flash a new Clockworks Recovery, but I've also read that ROM-Manager needs root. I have not yet flashed a new ROM, so I assume that I'm not yet rooted, am I? Can I find a ZIP of CWM that I can directly flash from the SD-card?
Does the CWM-version I'm running have any effect on the "quality" of the image backup? In other words, if I create a backup now, will I be able to restore it later running a different version of CWM?

The "different version backup restore" is a bit wonky and won't always work.
To flash a different recovery from the SD card do this:
1. Place this file on your SD card (Not in any folders!): http://www.multiupload.com/74EW2VPNHL
2. Boot into the bootloader
3. Wait a bit and then it should prompt you to update
4. Click the volume+ key to update
5. Remove SD card
6. Boot into the new recovery and insert the SD card
7. Go under mounts and select Mount USB storage
8. Delete the PCIMG file from your computer

nejc121 said:
1. Place this file on your SD card (Not in any folders!): http://www.multiupload.com/74EW2VPNHL
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I tried to, but I couldn't use the link. The whole domain seems to be down - maybe another holy crusade of Big Content, who knows. They sure leave fans in their wake, don't they.
Since you indicated that updating would be ok for the wildfire I went to http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager and downloaded the file recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-buzz.zip.
However, I'm not sure how to handle it: If I put it on the card under this name, nothing happens on bootloader-start. In recovery, I can select the file and install it, and then I immidiatly get a newly colored menu with the new CWM version 5.something. However, once I restart, the old CWM (v4.x) is there again.
I assume I need to use a magic filename so that the bootloader performs the update, not the (already running) recovery. Right?
**EDIT: Ah, disregard. I believe I found the answer myself.

Do you have fastboot?
If you do I can give you the recovery.img I'm using, which you can flash via fastboot.

Yes, fastboot is available.
Thank you.

Okay, here's how you flash a recovery via fastboot.
1. Extract the .zip I attached to the location where you fastboot is
2. Reboot phone in the bootloader
3. Select fastboot and attach USB cable
4. Open up the command prompt and type in "cd [location of fastboot]
5. Type in "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"
6. You're done
Oh and by [location of fastboot] I mean that you type in the location of fastboot.

Wow - this was fun. There was something really curious going on with my device: Whatever I tried, no "official" way worked to modify CWM v4 to v5. In every case, the menu of the new version showed up and was usable, but was gone again after restart. After the file-on-card method got me nowhere (file was not recognized), I tried the high road and installed ROM-Manager. This complained about missing su. So I installed su. After that ROM-Manager downloaded CWM v5 and put it onto the card (into a file named update.zip - ahh... ) On restart, the CWM-install-screen came up, then the v5 menu.
And after restart, it was gone again. Even ROM-Manager was confused: He showed v5 as "installed", when in fact it was still v4. ;-)
So finally I downloaded the Android SDK (to get fastboot.exe) and performed the flash as you suggested in the first place. And it worked. First try, without hitch, permanently.
Thank you very much for your help!
Regards

The problem with ROM Manager's version is that it's only temporary and can only be accessed from the ROM Manager itself

Problem after root Red Triangle/Question mark after Reboot

Hello guys, I have HTC One V GSM which was recently unlocked and rooted by me. I don't remember how I got that but got it Rooted somehow.
Now Problem is I am unable to backup recovery, unable to install Rom, unable to install themes, after every reboot of following actions,
In Rom Manager
Reboot into recovery takes me to red question mark
The Rom you are using doesn't support OTA updates. The developer of this Rom needs to make the appropriate changes so their ROM support OTA update. Please contact ROM developer.
Installation Rom from sd card also shows red question mark.
In ROM Toolbox pro
Rom management
when i install MIUI (one of the ROMs available seen there) after reboot into recovery option same "red question mark"
unable to change font once I got them changed fortunately/unfortunately
so basically I don't know what to do. I don't even know what exactly can i do after Root else then deleting few pre installed apps
I am very very, in fact very, new to all these tech things just checked internet and did few things.
Please help me guys

1) don't use rom manager
2) it seems you don't have a recovery. Flash it again via fastboot

Thanks Mr Nooby for your reply
Since I am very new to these, did u mean the same procedure I did after unlocking bootloader? procedure of rooting?
Is there anyway I can stat over with new Root I mean fresh after Unlocked bootloader? Then may be I can re start installing Roms and tweaking phone?

Yeah you can flash roms and stuff. Remember that fastboot folder you used to root the phone? Put the recovery file (go for twrp recovery, you can find it in original development of this phone) in that folder, connect the phone in fastboot mode, open cmd and type "fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img", it will send recovery to the phone. From there you can install roms. Never use rom manager, it bricks your phone. And whenever you flash a rom, remember to flash kernel or it will be in boot loop

Amit5818 said:
Hello guys, I have HTC One V GSM which was recently unlocked and rooted by me. I don't remember how I got that but got it Rooted somehow.
Now Problem is I am unable to backup recovery, unable to install Rom, unable to install themes, after every reboot of following actions,
In Rom Manager
Reboot into recovery takes me to red question mark
The Rom you are using doesn't support OTA updates. The developer of this Rom needs to make the appropriate changes so their ROM support OTA update. Please contact ROM developer.
Installation Rom from sd card also shows red question mark.
In ROM Toolbox pro
Rom management
when i install MIUI (one of the ROMs available seen there) after reboot into recovery option same "red question mark"
unable to change font once I got them changed fortunately/unfortunately
so basically I don't know what to do. I don't even know what exactly can i do after Root else then deleting few pre installed apps
I am very very, in fact very, new to all these tech things just checked internet and did few things.
Please help me guys
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Also pls post questions like this in Q&A thread...

E:/%20cant%20/open%20cache/recovery/command
this error comes when i recover after flashing fastboot..
have tried twrp too
it aslso says
reboot system now
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache

I don't really understand what could give you the problem. Tell the exact steps you are doing

steps are.. I have downloaded fastboot zip it has adb, adbwinapi.dll, adbwinusbapi.dll, fastboot
i have downloaded twrp.mg (openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-primou)
Opened cmd from same folder typed fastboot openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-primou or openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-primou.img
then pressed recovery
phone restarted green circle thing and then Red triangle with exclam sign. then rebooted by own and nothing happened.
I might be wrong doing it but unable to do anyting.
Can I unroot and start again?
I am downloading HTC asia RUU
Downloading:
RUU_Buzz_Froyo_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.24.707.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_161
113_signed.exe

See, you are taking wrong steps. In order to put recovery on phone you must type "fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img", not all the stuff you are writing dude

Amit5818 said:
steps are.. I have downloaded fastboot zip it has adb, adbwinapi.dll, adbwinusbapi.dll, fastboot
i have downloaded twrp.mg (openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-primou)
Opened cmd from same folder typed fastboot openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-primou or openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-primou.img
then pressed recovery
phone restarted green circle thing and then Red triangle with exclam sign. then rebooted by own and nothing happened.
I might be wrong doing it but unable to do anyting.
Can I unroot and start again?
I am downloading HTC asia RUU
Downloading:
RUU_Buzz_Froyo_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.24.707.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_161
113_signed.exe
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Froyo?!?!! what the hell!
lol xD

You are probably using all the stuff for another phone, recovery included..

mr_nooby said:
You are probably using all the stuff for another phone, recovery included..
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lol imagine Froyo! xD :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Done now I have install
wipe
backup
resore
mount
settings
advanced
and reboot
now what
btw thanks that helped

Imagine aaaaall the peopleeee
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Are you able to access recovery from the phone?

Seraz I am only soing or typing what finding on google
yea dont know anything
just followed what you all said
btw Mr Nooby thanks.. I think I am learning it quickly

Well, if you can now access recovery from the phone, have fun flashing roms :thumbup:

Amit5818 said:
Seraz I am only soing or typing what finding on google
yea dont know anything
just followed what you all said
btw Mr Nooby thanks.. I think I am learning it quickly
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No problem man! Cheers!

Hepp Yeah!!
Thanks Mr Nooby
and thanks Seraz 4 making fun
have a nice day
Thanks

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[Q] Bricked my One X, really need help of a wiser people. Please

I've been following xda for a while now, but this is my first post so please take it easy on me, if I posted this in the wrong thread.
I am not new to rooting and costom roms. I have successfully rooted one phone before and I used it for a more than a year, didn't have any problems at all. Yesterday I got myself HTC One X and today I tried to root it and somehow got myself stucked/bricked.
The phone is stuck on HTC Quietly brilliant screen. I can get into bootloader, but thats it. What can I do? I already tried to flash back the original ROM, but couldn't get device to connect to PC. I looked all over the forum and googled it and still can't seem to find the solution. Any help would be highly apprechiated.
*** UNLOCKED ***
ENDEAVOUR PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1. 39. 0000
CPLD-None
MICROP-None
RADIO-5. 1204. 162A. 29
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode: disabled
HW Secure boot: enabled
MODEM PATH : OFF

Which rom did you flash? You have to flash the boot.img from within the .zip file.
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Desaf said:
Which rom did you flash? You have to flash the boot.img from within the .zip file.
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Something went wrong when I tried to root it. It probably didn't go through with it. I tried to flash a stock rom back, after I got stuck but it won't go, because I can't connect with PC.

Straxer said:
Something went wrong when I tried to root it. It probably didn't go through with it. I tried to flash a stock rom back, after I got stuck but it won't go, because I can't connect with PC.
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Which recovery have you installed? If it's twrp you can mount SD from there put a custom ROM on it with superuser (root) flash that ROM from recovery and you have root. It's by far the easiest way to flash a custom ROM to get root instead of getting root on a stock ROM.
And BTW, the hox is not easy to brick of you ask me so don't panic (yet)
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Straxer said:
Something went wrong when I tried to root it. It probably didn't go through with it. I tried to flash a stock rom back, after I got stuck but it won't go, because I can't connect with PC.
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need to be more specific. did it happend just after you tried rooting? or did you try to install/flash rom/kernel/(recovery etc)
try to root again . use this tool. its the easiest. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604439
i m no expert but from my experience your problem occurs when you flash incampatable kernel..also, we cannot s-off our one x so you have to flash the kernel (named as boot.img, if not , you rename it) manually via fastboot. (download sdk tools) when flashing new rom.

dragonflame8712 said:
need to be more specific. did it happend just after you tried rooting? or did you try to install/flash rom/kernel/(recovery etc)
try to root again . use this tool. its the easiest. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604439
i m no expert but from my experience your problem occurs when you flash incampatable kernel..also, we cannot s-off our one x so you have to flash the kernel (named as boot.img, if not , you rename it) manually via fastboot. (download sdk tools) when flashing new rom.
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As you said, I used that tool. I installed HTC Drivers, registered at HTCDev, got TokenID, submitted it and unlocked Bootloader. Everything went ok, the only thing that was wrong was with the MTP device driver, which failed to install every time. (I think that was the reason why it disconnected with PC). I then procceded to Perm Root where it got stuck on the phone with red explanation point screen. From there I could still reset phone to a normal state like there was no changes.
Then I tried InsecureBootAndRoot, followed the steps and shortly after it started rooting, the program closed and it was stuck here. I tried to do it again, but I got the message: Waiting for a device.
Can you explain in more detail, how to flash kernel manually, if my computer doesn't recognize device?

dragonflame8712 said:
need to be more specific. did it happend just after you tried rooting? or did you try to install/flash rom/kernel/(recovery etc)
try to root again . use this tool. its the easiest. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604439
i m no expert but from my experience your problem occurs when you flash incampatable kernel..also, we cannot s-off our one x so you have to flash the kernel (named as boot.img, if not , you rename it) manually via fastboot. (download sdk tools) when flashing new rom.
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Ok, I think I know how to flash kernel. Can you tell me which one to chose or give me a link to it please.

Straxer said:
Ok, I think I know how to flash kernel. Can you tell me which one to chose or give me a link to it please.
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Have you flashed a rom yet or are you still on stock? Do you prefer sense roms or AOSP/cyanogen?

gffmac said:
Have you flashed a rom yet or are you still on stock? Do you prefer sense roms or AOSP/cyanogen?
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No, I haven't. I am now practically without a rom (I think). I would prefer custom rom (like cyanogen).

The problem is that everytime I try to do anything for example, flash back factory RUU, I get the message: device not found. Is this because of problem with drivers. Someone please help me out

Straxer said:
The problem is that everytime I try to do anything for example, flash back factory RUU, I get the message: device not found. Is this because of problem with drivers. Someone please help me out
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If you want cyanogen you need a custom recovery like TWRP. That recovery you can flash through fastboot but like you said there is something wrong with your drivers. Did you install HTC sync on your PC. And did you enable USB debugging in your current ROM?
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J_Dutch said:
If you want cyanogen you need a custom recovery like TWRP. That recovery you can flash through fastboot but like you said there is something wrong with your drivers. Did you install HTC sync on your PC. And did you enable USB debugging in your current ROM?
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Yes, I got CWM recovery. I just discovered that. I installed and uninstalled all the latest htc drivers and htc sync many times. It enabled debugging mode, the last time I was on stock rom (don't know if you can check that now in bootloader?) If my phone is not rooted, than I can't install custom rom right, because I think it isn't. how can I check that?

Straxer said:
Yes, I got CWM recovery. I just discovered that. I installed and uninstalled all the latest htc drivers and htc sync many times. It enabled debugging mode, the last time I was on stock rom (don't know if you can check that now in bootloader?) If my phone is not rooted, than I can't install custom rom right, because I think it isn't. how can I check that?
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No you don't need root to flash a custom ROM. Flashing a custom ROM will give you root. So you are doing things the wrong way. If you can get into cwm then make sure you have cyanogen.zip and gapps.zip on your phone. Extract(copy) the boot.IMG file from cyanogen. Then from cwm do a nandroid backup, full wipe except SD card, flash cyanogen, flash gapps. Then from cwm boot into boot loader, make sure you place the extracted boot.IMG in your fastboot folder on PC and in command line give commands: fastboot flash boot boot.img then: fastboot erase cache then: fastboot reboot Then you can unplug USB and it will start cyanogen and you have root.
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J_Dutch said:
No you don't need root to flash a custom ROM. Flashing a custom ROM will give you root. So you are doing things the wrong way. If you can get into cwm then make sure you have cyanogen.zip and gapps.zip on your phone. Extract(copy) the boot.IMG file from cyanogen. Then from cwm do a nandroid backup, full wipe except SD card, flash cyanogen, flash gapps. Then from cwm boot into boot loader, make sure you place the extracted boot.IMG in your fastboot folder on PC and in command line give commands: fastboot flash boot boot.img then: fastboot erase cache then: fastboot reboot Then you can unplug USB and it will start cyanogen and you have root.
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Okay, so I installed latest CM10 and gapps. How to extract boot.IMG form cyanogen?

I extracted boot.img from Cyanogenmod zip file (that is the same for everybody, right?). I did a Nandroid backup like you said But now all I can do is wipe data/factory reset (CWM Recovery v5.8.4.0). I can't find an option to wipe only selected things.

I was blind, but now I see! I got it running. Everything works great. Thanks to all of you, especially to J_Dutch :victory:

Straxer said:
I was blind, but now I see! I got it running. Everything works great. Thanks to all of you, especially to J_Dutch :victory:
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Glad you got it up and running! Hope you enjoy the custom ROM, with every other ROM you flash you will need that boot.img to be flashed separately.
Ps. Please hit the thanks button if somebody helps you. It's designed for that.
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J_Dutch said:
Glad you got it up and running! Hope you enjoy the custom ROM, with every other ROM you flash you will need that boot.img to be flashed separately.
Ps. Please hit the thanks button if somebody helps you. It's designed for that.
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Just came back to do that. Much appreciated!

[Q] Couple root questions

1. If I root my HTC One M8 with the stock rom, will I still get updates, or will I have to flash a rom everytime there is an update from HTC?
2. How can I manage folders and write to my microSD card once I root?
3. Once I root and unlock my bootloader do I have to flash a rom or will the stock one be automatically flashed? I want to remain stock just like the phone came out of the box, and get all my updates from HTC automatically. I just want to have the H/K audio enhancements and I want to be able to move things to my SD card. Thats the only reason I want to root. Any help in doing this is greatly appreciated. In fact, if someone helps me out greatly with a step-by-step by rooting,keeping stock,getting H/K, being able to write to sd, I will pay them $5 via Paypal if thats allowed here....

Oh, and I have the Unlocked version.

bhags8 said:
1. If I root my HTC One M8 with the stock rom, will I still get updates, or will I have to flash a rom everytime there is an update from HTC?
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You will get updates.
bhags8 said:
2. How can I manage folders and write to my microSD card once I root?
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Any root file explorer app should be fine. I use Es file explorer.
bhags8 said:
3. Once I root and unlock my bootloader do I have to flash a rom or will the stock one be automatically flashed? I want to remain stock just like the phone came out of the box, and get all my updates from HTC automatically. I just want to have the H/K audio enhancements and I want to be able to move things to my SD card. Thats the only reason I want to root. Any help in doing this is greatly appreciated. In fact, if someone helps me out greatly with a step-by-step by rooting,keeping stock,getting H/K, being able to write to sd, I will pay them $5 via Paypal if thats allowed here....
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This question makes me believe you don't have much understanding of what rooting is and that means if something goes wrong, you will not be able to fix it. This is a dangerous. I strongly suggest doing some reading and trying to understand before you mess around (no I don't care to know how many devices you've rooted in the past). This is the only warning I will give you.
Unlock bootloader at HTCdev.com
boot to TWRP or Philz Touch (fastboot boot customrecoveryfilename.img)
Make a nandroid backup and save for just in case.
Install supersu or superuser (custom recovery should offer to install root for you, I know TWRP does, not sure about Philz Touch)
Firewater S-OFF (optional, extra dangerous, HK may not work without it.)
Install HK
Install a file explorer app capable of requesting root.
Good luck. I suggest reading the guide in my signature.

So if I flash twrp or the other one I won't flash a rom after that to keep stock right? Then if HTC pushes an ota update I would still receive it?
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bhags8 said:
So if I flash twrp or the other one I won't flash a rom after that to keep stock right? Then if HTC pushes an ota update I would still receive it?
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Correct. However, after you have everything like you want it, you will need to flash the original recovery back to your device. From what I understand, the OTA updates don't work with a custom recovery.
However, you should also consider that nearly every ROM in this forum will be updated within a few days anytime a new release is pushed. I can speak from personal experience that ARHD 5.5 is nearly identical to stock. It would only then require a weekly visit to his thread to see if a new release is out. Every other Sense based ROM here would be the same. Just mentioning that you do have alternatives.

Don't flash twrp. Just boot to it. Since you're not flashing roms, no point in flashing a custom recovery.
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If I never flash a custom recovery do I still have to flash the original recovery?
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Oh and do I have to get S-OFF for H/K and write to SD access??
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bhags8 said:
Oh and do I have to get S-OFF for H/K and write to SD access??
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You don't need it for Sd card access
You might need it for HK as I stated earlier. If you don't understand why you might need it. read the thread I linked.

exad said:
Since you're not flashing roms, no point in flashing a custom recovery.
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Intend to root my M8 but keep it in stock for the time being. So just rooting and booting into recovery to take backup.
I am a newbie so trying out the advantages of rooting and taking it one step at a time. As such Custom Roms are not my priority right now. Flexibility to OTA update is a priority, for which i have learnt that other than installing some basic root apps like titanium, if i decide to flash custom roms/recovery, overclock/undervolting, then i loose that flexibility.
1. Is my understanding correct?
2. I wanted to play around with xposed framework. Will installing xposed framework work against easy OTA updates?
3. Anything else i shouldn't be doing if i want easy OTA? I say easy because i do know that OTA can be achieved in a round about way even after flashing roms and all other customizations.

anjaan said:
Intend to root my M8 but keep it in stock for the time being. So just rooting and booting into recovery to take backup.
I am a newbie so trying out the advantages of rooting and taking it one step at a time. As such Custom Roms are not my priority right now. Flexibility to OTA update is a priority, for which i have learnt that other than installing some basic root apps like titanium, if i decide to flash custom roms/recovery, overclock/undervolting, then i loose that flexibility.
1. Is my understanding correct?
2. I wanted to play around with xposed framework. Will installing xposed framework work against easy OTA updates?
3. Anything else i shouldn't be doing if i want easy OTA? I say easy because i do know that OTA can be achieved in a round about way even after flashing roms and all other customizations.
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1. yes
2. should still be able to receive OTA
3. Don't remove system apps. Use titanium backup to freeze if you don't want them running so you can unfreeze if needbe.
Tip 1
Make nandroids when you make changes so you can revert back, you can always boot into custom recovery to make and/or restore nandroids.
Tip 2
Always know how to undo what you're doing. If you don't have an undo plan, don't do it.

Hello Exad,
I am new to HTC and want to do all the necessary research before I root my phone. I have read your everything explained guide which was very helpful. As with the other users on this thread I want to gain root access but I do not want to run custom ROMs and I still want to receive OTA updates to my phone. It looks like simply booting into a custom recovery such TWRP and flashing supersu will enable root access without changing the stock recovery.
Can you explain how I boot into TWRP recovery without actually flashing it? It seems like every thread or guide I find online instructs me to flash a custom recovery. Where do I place the TWRP recovery file on my computer in order to boot into recovery?
Thank you for helping out a newbie

SouthBayBruin said:
Can you explain how I boot into TWRP recovery without actually flashing it? It seems like every thread or guide I find online instructs me to flash a custom recovery. Where do I place the TWRP recovery file on my computer in order to boot into recovery?
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so long as you have fastboot available on your pc, , connect the phone in fastboot mode, then on the pc open a command prompt in teh folder where the recovery is(**), and issue teh command
Fastboot boot custom-recovery-name.img
that should boot you without flashing it.
** browse to the folder where it is in regular explorer, then hold shift and right click, there will be an 'open command prompt here' option in teh menu.

samsamuel said:
so long as you have fastboot available on your pc, , connect the phone in fastboot mode, then on the pc open a command prompt in teh folder where the recovery is(**), and issue teh command
Fastboot boot custom-recovery-name.img
that should boot you without flashing it.
** browse to the folder where it is in regular explorer, then hold shift and right click, there will be an 'open command prompt here' option in teh menu.
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Thank you for the help.
If I am following correctly here are some basic steps I should follow. In order to get fastboot on my computer should I download the entire Google SDK from the google developer website. This file will then include everything I need on my computer in terms of fastboot. I should also ensure that I have all of the latest HTC one (m8) drivers installed on my computer.
Then I should download the latest version of TWRP and ensure that the file name is matches custom-recovery-name.img
I should enter fastboot mode on my phone and connect it to my computer. Following the command prompt, I will boot into TWRP recovery. Once in TWRP recovery can I disconnect my phone from the computer? I should first create a nandroid backup (as a precaution) then I should install supersu. Once I install supersu I should have root accress.
I just need to reboot my phone and it should still have the stock recovery but now with root access.
Thank you for the help

sorry, can't answer the SDK stuff, I didn't have to install any SDK, BUT it may have still been installed from when I used to flash my HD2 a few yrs ago, , or perhaps the drivers are installed when you first connect the phone in fastboot mode to teh PC?
Whichever, I certainly don't currently have the SDK installed, so it's either leftovers, or it comes with the drivers. (EDIT - i also have myphoneexplorer installed, which installs certain drivers and stuff too,,,)
try it, put the phone in fastboot, , connect it to usb, let windows install whatever drivers it feels, then open a command prompt on teh PC and type
fastboot
if it says unknown command, then its not there, if it gives you lots of lines of help info, then fastboot is installed.
Assuming it works (or once you get it working) change custom-recovery-name to say whatever your recovery is called, and it will boot the phone allowing you to perform all the normal actions. Whether or not it will allow SU to install, I don't know, i've only had the phone 2 days, and all i did was HTC bootloader unlock, flash twrp, install su, flash viperrom and done.

samsamuel said:
sorry, can't answer the SDK stuff, I didn't have to install any SDK, BUT it may have still been installed from when I used to flash my HD2 a few yrs ago, , or perhaps the drivers are installed when you first connect the phone in fastboot mode to teh PC?
Whichever, I certainly don't currently have the SDK installed, so it's either leftovers, or it comes with the drivers. (EDIT - i also have myphoneexplorer installed, which installs certain drivers and stuff too,,,)
try it, put the phone in fastboot, , connect it to usb, let windows install whatever drivers it feels, then open a command prompt on teh PC and type
fastboot
if it says unknown command, then its not there, if it gives you lots of lines of help info, then fastboot is installed.
Assuming it works (or once you get it working) change custom-recovery-name to say whatever your recovery is called, and it will boot the phone allowing you to perform all the normal actions. Whether or not it will allow SU to install, I don't know, i've only had the phone 2 days, and all i did was HTC bootloader unlock, flash twrp, install su, flash viperrom and done.
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Thank you for the advice. I have rooted one other phone in the past and I remember using adb commands, so my computer may already have fastboot enabled.
Since I do not want to flash the custom recovery and only boot into recovery will I need to keep the phone connected to my computer while in TWRP recovery?

why would you need to unhook it? play it safe and leave it connected.

I have been using this method to boot into TWRP to re-install SuperSU after each HTC ONE M8 update. However, with the update just released (Android 4.4.3), when I issue the command it just has the phone reboot. It does not bring up TWRP. Any ideas?

Flash failing tried everything.

Hi all,
I hope someone can help as I am at my wits and sanity's end.
I am trying to install twrp into my phone to make a factory backup before rooting. I have unlocked the boot loader via htcdev all OK, I have followed the guide online to install twrp but it just will not work, I have tried various methods and every one of them failed. ADB and fastboot are installed OK, when I type "fastboot devices" it shows the phone and serial number, HTC sync is installed and updated, SDK is installed, everything the guide said to do I have done but it just won't flash. Error when I try to flash twrp every time. It is the latest version etc (I think) the twrp image is in the adb/fastboot folder and the cmd was opened from the folder.
I really don't know what I am doing wrong, can anyone please advise?
Thanks in advance
Gary Nixon

Belaris said:
Hi all,
I hope someone can help as I am at my wits and sanity's end.
I am trying to install twrp into my phone to make a factory backup before rooting. I have unlocked the boot loader via htcdev all OK, I have followed the guide online to install twrp but it just will not work, I have tried various methods and every one of them failed. ADB and fastboot are installed OK, when I type "fastboot devices" it shows the phone and serial number, HTC sync is installed and updated, SDK is installed, everything the guide said to do I have done but it just won't flash. Error when I try to flash twrp every time. It is the latest version etc (I think) the twrp image is in the adb/fastboot folder and the cmd was opened from the folder.
I really don't know what I am doing wrong, can anyone please advise?
Thanks in advance
Gary Nixon
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are you in bootloader or download mode, you have to be in download mode, what command are you typing to flash recovery.
fastboot flash recovery (name of recovery).img

Yep download mode black screen and that command

i have installed java SE development kit 7 and java 8 update 66 as per the guide
Do i need an SD card in the phone for this as i just saw this mentioned but it wasnt on the guide i was using?

Belaris said:
i have installed java SE development kit 7 and java 8 update 66 as per the guide
Do i need an SD card in the phone for this as i just saw this mentioned but it wasnt on the guide i was using?
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hmmm, not sure on that one, put one in and see

I think i may know the problem - S-ON - would this prevent anything being flashed?

Have you tried re-downloading TWRP to make sure it isn't a corrupted download?

Belaris said:
I think i may know the problem - S-ON - would this prevent anything being flashed?
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no, if your bootloader is unlocked you don't need to be s-off to flash recovery. Are you flashing the correct twrp for your phone
2.8.7.1_CPTB-B1-hima.img

its cool i got it to work, next question how do i get the custom rom zip file into the phone

Belaris said:
its cool i got it to work, next question how do i get the custom rom zip file into the phone
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download it, connect tehphone to pc, move the rom zip to either extsd or internal sd, boot to recovery select the zip and flash.don't forget to make a backup, and to wipe dalvik cache, cache, system,and data,under advanced wipe. nothing else then install the rom
what was causing the problem before, that you couldn't get recovery to flash, just curious

tbh i actually used the m9 toolkit by Squabbi - did it in 5 minutes
donation on the way

Belaris said:
tbh i actually used the m9 toolkit by Squabbi - did it in 5 minutes
donation on the way
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ok cool, glad you got it going.