[Q] Do I need a SIM unlock on DInc2 with CM flashed? - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

I flashed Chillybeans unofficial CM 10.2 and it works great so far. I was wondering if I would still need to SIM "unlock" this phone to use it overseas or on a GSM carrier.
I have been using this old phone as a backup/media player on WiFi and currently is not active on any cellular carrier. I may want to use it when I travel since it a global phone.
Thanks

The phone comes with a pre-installed VZW/Vodaphone SIM Card that, with a current VZW account, allows the phone to roam with additional charges on foreign cdma and gsm networks when abroad.
It needs to be unlocked to use other carrier SIM cards.
The unlock code is stored in hardware memory and is unaffected by rom or modem/radio firmware flashing.

Unless you plan on going global a sim isn't necessary. It works on CDMA. As for unlocking it to another carrier I believe it would have to be flashed to that company unlike the galaxy s4 the sim port on the dinc2 is strictly for global use. I believe there's a forum floating around on here about it. Hope this was helpful and be sure to click thanks if it was.

I mean u can use it on local gsm if its unlocked or ur s-off but u will only get Edge support. But if u just wanna use it on cdma using a cm rom has nothing to do with the sim just need an unlocked bootloader or to be s-off.
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Now if u used htcdev bootloader unlock then ur phone will only work on global and not local gsm u need to be s-off to use on other gsm networks whether the sim is unlocked or not bec its locked through htc not verizon. Sorry bout so many posts i get carried away sometimes lol hope this helps

Thanks for the responses, but I am still a bit confused. OK so for more background, I am rooted, fully S-OFF, and have flashed an unofficial CM 10.2 ROM from this forum link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049902.
I am pretty new to rooting and modding and I am still a bit confused about the carrier lock. I get that if I buy a Verizon phone they lock it to their network until it's paid for and I should be able to unlock it now that I am no longer a Verizon customer, I have not actually called them to ask for this. Is this "lock" embedded in the actual SIM card, or some sort of partition in the phones memory that rooting/flashing ROMs does not touch? I assumed flashing a ROM deletes almost all the carrier software except for the recovery partition.
I have the manual to this phone, and I cannot find a spec sheet that lists the radios present inside this device. I assumed because it was "global" it had some GSM radios, am I wrong?
Here is the scenario I want to use this: I'd like to visit a friend in the UK, and instead of bringing my current phone, I'd bring the DInc2 toss the Verizon SIM card in the trash, buy a local carrier SIM card, pop it in and pay my charges and use it for the week. I know you can do that with Nexus phones because they are fully unlocked, would I be able to do this with my DInc2 if I got the Verizon unlock code since flashing a ROM does not unlock it?
Thanks.

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[Q] T889 back to stock

I bought the T889 on release to unlock and use on straight talk, with the straight talk AT&T micro sim. (I'm not cutting down a straight talk T-mobile sim) I rooted my phone using these steps. (galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-easiest-method/) ((I'm too new to post links)) The phone rooted like a charm. I tried a sim unlock app that needed root to use, but apparently the app only works with certain chipsets. Contacted support for the sim unlock app and they told me I'd have to pay a service to unlock the phone for me. T-mobile only gives you the unlock if you've been a customer for over 60 days. Playing with the CWM I was able to unroot the phone. I am unable to figure out how to get rid of CWM to have the phone get OTA updates. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Mr. or Mrs. moderator, I apologize if i put this in the wrong place, I'm new to the forum scene.
This is interesting.
Does this mean I can take my note 2 and unlock it, then give it to my cousin on at&t and she can use Lte?
konceptz said:
This is interesting.
Does this mean I can take my note 2 and unlock it, then give it to my cousin on at&t and she can use Lte?
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my understanding is that the t-mobile version was made with LTE locked, but I'm clearly not an expert. I've read that the phone includes the radio to pick up LTE bands, but that you would have to do something to unlock the feature. However, the phone should work exactly the same as it would on T-mobile, with no other changes, aside from unlocking the sim.
bigg6987 said:
my understanding is that the t-mobile version was made with LTE locked, but I'm clearly not an expert. I've read that the phone includes the radio to pick up LTE bands, but that you would have to do something to unlock the feature. However, the phone should work exactly the same as it would on T-mobile, with no other changes, aside from unlocking the sim.
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It does have a radio for the LTE bands. It is locked upon purchase. I am not certain, but perharps using the USSD codes to get into radio choices may be simple enough... but I am by no means an expert. Try *#*#4636#*#* to change cellular radios
bigg6987 said:
I bought the T889 on release to unlock and use on straight talk, with the straight talk AT&T micro sim. (I'm not cutting down a straight talk T-mobile sim) I rooted my phone using these steps. (galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-easiest-method/) ((I'm too new to post links)) The phone rooted like a charm. I tried a sim unlock app that needed root to use, but apparently the app only works with certain chipsets. Contacted support for the sim unlock app and they told me I'd have to pay a service to unlock the phone for me. T-mobile only gives you the unlock if you've been a customer for over 60 days. Playing with the CWM I was able to unroot the phone. I am unable to figure out how to get rid of CWM to have the phone get OTA updates. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Mr. or Mrs. moderator, I apologize if i put this in the wrong place, I'm new to the forum scene.
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You can flash Chainfire's CF-Auto-Root. It installs SuperSU and stock recovery. Then you can just use the Superuser app to unroot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33390392&postcount=1
Everything I've read implies it would take a serious firmware update to enable LTE, so I don't think I'd count on a solution soon. That sure would be cool though.

[Q] How to determine which carrier I'm locked to when there are no bloatware apps?

I have a Canadian Bell S3 i747m which broke and I got some random guy to fix it for me. He frustratingly ended up installing a ROGERS circuit board(or so he says) without bothering to check the fact my phone was loaded with Bell bloatware or just asking me my carrier.
I now need to unlock the SIM in order to use it properly and I just want to be sure I have the correct information and I don't end up paying for an unlock code that will not work since I didn't provide the proper carrier.
My SIM card (not sure if that matters): BELL
My board/IMEI: ROGERS (Apparently)
I wanted to determine which carrier I was tied to but I see 0 bloatware in my phone which makes me think the guy is wrong/lying and it's not actually a Rogers board. Is there another way to determine which carrier my phone is tied to?
Cyclone112 said:
I have a Canadian Bell S3 i747m which broke and I got some random guy to fix it for me. He frustratingly ended up installing a ROGERS circuit board(or so he says) without bothering to check the fact my phone was loaded with Bell bloatware or just asking me my carrier.
I now need to unlock the SIM in order to use it properly and I just want to be sure I have the correct information and I don't end up paying for an unlock code that will not work since I didn't provide the proper carrier.
My SIM card (not sure if that matters): BELL
My board/IMEI: ROGERS (Apparently)
I wanted to determine which carrier I was tied to but I see 0 bloatware in my phone which makes me think the guy is wrong/lying and it's not actually a Rogers board. Is there another way to determine which carrier my phone is tied to?
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The carrier doesn't matter. Once unlocked, it's unlocked for every carrier (unless it's unlocked by code).
You could go check the APN to see which carrier it's from.
BWolf56 said:
The carrier doesn't matter. Once unlocked, it's unlocked for every carrier (unless it's unlocked by code).
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Oh really? I was looking at the gsmliberty site for unlocking and it asks for a carrier. I can't post the link since I'm a new account but here it is split:
gsmliberty(dot)net/shop/samsung-galaxy-s3-unlock-codes-p-3528.html
I then went into their Terms of Service and it specifies that if I provide an incorrect carrier and the unlock code doesn't work then I won't get a refund. Does this mean this site is BS and I should avoid it and find another?
EDIT: Oh I see you added info about checking the APN. Don't know what that is but I'll Google it. Assuming I find it should I still avoid gsmliberty or should I give them a shot?
BWolf56 said:
The carrier doesn't matter. Once unlocked, it's unlocked for every carrier (unless it's unlocked by code).
You could go check the APN to see which carrier it's from.
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I went to Settings > Connections > More networks > Mobile Networks and it tells me this: Insert SIM card to access network services
EDIT: Ok I finally found the AP and CSC by dialing *#1234# and then comparing it to sammobiles firmware to find out which carrier it is tied to. Still worried about the fact I get the SIM error above but hopefully that will go away when I attempt to unlock it
Cyclone112 said:
I went to Settings > Connections > More networks > Mobile Networks and it tells me this: Insert SIM card to access network services
EDIT: Maybe I'm looking at the wrong spot. Here is my phone's about in case that helps:
View attachment 2807396
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Umm I though you'd have access to it w/o a sim card.
I'm not sure how else you could determine which carrier the motherboard is locked to.
BWolf56 said:
Umm I though you'd have access to it w/o a sim card.
I'm not sure how else you could determine which carrier the motherboard is locked to.
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I just ended up editing my last post a minute before you posted this. I did determine the carrier and it is in fact Rogers. I was planning on just getting an unlock code through a website. You mentioned that means it will only be unlocked for them which I'm fine with but I'm just concerned about the fact I have a Bell SIM. Will that cause any problems with the unlock process or future dealings with BELL?
Actually I have a better question. Can I just put Bell's firmware on my phone instead of Rogers using Odin and then get an unlock for Bell and theoretically I'll be back to where I was?
What bootloader is on the phone? If you have the 4.3 bootloader, you'll have to buy an unlock code. If you have the 4.1.1 bootloader and you are running a stock ROM (doesn't matter about the carrier), you can use the free method to unlock it. If you have the 4.1.2 bootloader, downgrade to the Rogers 4.1.1 ROM and unlock it using the free method.
audit13 said:
What bootloader is on the phone? If you have the 4.3 bootloader, you'll have to buy an unlock code. If you have the 4.1.1 bootloader and you are running a stock ROM (doesn't matter about the carrier), you can use the free method to unlock it. If you have the 4.1.2 bootloader, downgrade to the Rogers 4.1.1 ROM and unlock it using the free method.
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I'm running 4.3 so I know I need an unlock code unfortunately. I have a Bell SIM card but have Rogers firmware. The site I was looking to buy an unlock code from asks for my carrier so I presume I need to use Rogers. Will that be fine or am I able to just throw Bell firmware on my phone and buy an unlock code specifying Bell as my carrier?
I am not sure of you can load the stock Bell firmware and change the phone so it is locked to Bell. If this were the case, owners could switch carriers by flashing different firmware.
Cyclone112 said:
I just ended up editing my last post a minute before you posted this. I did determine the carrier and it is in fact Rogers. I was planning on just getting an unlock code through a website. You mentioned that means it will only be unlocked for them which I'm fine with but I'm just concerned about the fact I have a Bell SIM. Will that cause any problems with the unlock process or future dealings with BELL?
Actually I have a better question. Can I just put Bell's firmware on my phone instead of Rogers using Odin and then get an unlock for Bell and theoretically I'll be back to where I was?
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Unlocking is permanent and unlocks to every carrier. Knowing which one you're locked to only matters to get a unlock code, after that, it's free for all.
BWolf56 said:
Unlocking is permanent and unlocks to every carrier. Knowing which one you're locked to only matters to get a unlock code, after that, it's free for all.
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Gotcha, so there's no point in flashing Bell firmware at all. I just need the correct one for getting an unlock code in the first place. Thanks for helping a noob out.

No root = no custom recovery?

After several pages of reading i need to ask this:
I have a n910v that is a CDMA phone and i need to use it in a GSM network. For this i found that there is a way to reach that trough a "script". In order to run that i need to set the "signature verificatio" off. (I'm ok with that, i trust the script developer), but for doing that i need a custom recovery (right?) and to have a custom recovery instaled i need to rooot the phone (as far as i understand), so: since there is no root for this sm-n910v there is also no custom recovery?
Thanks!
just64 said:
After several pages of reading i need to ask this:
I have a n910v that is a CDMA phone and i need to use it in a GSM network. For this i found that there is a way to reach that trough a "script". In order to run that i need to set the "signature verificatio" off. (I'm ok with that, i trust the script developer), but for doing that i need a custom recovery (right?) and to have a custom recovery instaled i need to rooot the phone (as far as i understand), so: since there is no root for this sm-n910v there is also no custom recovery?
Thanks!
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For a custom recovery you need a unlocked bootloader witch the retail Note 4 dose not have. Root can be achieved without a bootloader unlock but a unlock allows the custom recovery without having root thus making it much easier to root.
Misterxtc said:
For a custom recovery you need a unlocked bootloader witch the retail Note 4 dose not have. Root can be achieved without a bootloader unlock but a unlock allows the custom recovery without having root thus making it much easier to root.
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Hmmm, so you are saying me that i need a bootloader unclock?
Not sure why you need to do anything of the sort? I am using 2 Verizon note 4's here in Ireland on GSM my wife and I. I did find when I received them they would not work with a GSM sim or connect to a GSM Network here in Ireland. So I went on ebay and bought a Verizon sim card, dummy/dead/unactivated what ever for 5 dollars poped it in to both phones, they said activating phone then activation failed. But guess what GSM sim card worked after that....its a strange one.
By the way it needs to be a 4G Verizon sim card. I tried another Verizon Sim and it didn't work.
Hope this helps
gersrt said:
Not sure why you need to do anything of the sort? I am using 2 Verizon note 4's here in Ireland on GSM my wife and I. I did find when I received them they would not work with a GSM sim or connect to a GSM Network here in Ireland. So I went on ebay and bought a Verizon sim card, dummy/dead/unactivated what ever for 5 dollars poped it in to both phones, they said activating phone then activation failed. But guess what GSM sim card worked after that....its a strange one.
By the way it needs to be a 4G Verizon sim card. I tried another Verizon Sim and it didn't work.
Hope this helps
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Well, i'm in Argentina, to have a Verizon SIM card here is going to take about 4/5 weeks, but is good to know, thanks.
Btw, ur Note 4 was also a CDMA phone?
Yes it is a cdma. Took about 2 weeks for me to get Sim. Make sure it's a 4G one you buy. It's well worth the wait. Best of luck.
just64 said:
Hmmm, so you are saying me that i need a bootloader unclock?
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For a custom recovery yes,for a carrier unlock no. These are two entirely different unlocks. As gersrt said you need a different sim card. The phone should already be carrier unlocked.

HTC 10 Unlocked, Used Sunshine for Verizon, Changed CID/MID, Process back 2 Unlocked?

Hey all...
I used sunshine to unlock and s-off immediately after purchase of my Unlocked HTC 10 and changed the CID/MID to make it a Verizon phone and flash ViperRom.
Now that I'm traveling for work I need to change the phone back to Unlocked to use the LTE bands in another country (buying a SIM card in Japan), and also for it to to work back on VZN when I return.
I'd really appreciate it if someone can point me in the right direction of the steps I need to take to perform this? Hoping I only need to change/flash a couple things to pop in a new SIM in Japan and pop back in the VZN SIM when I'm back.
Thanks all! Hopefully this could be useful for someone else in my situation. I'd venture to guess it's somewhat common...
-Josh
finger11 said:
Hey all...
I used sunshine to unlock and s-off immediately after purchase of my Unlocked HTC 10 and changed the CID/MID to make it a Verizon phone and flash ViperRom.
Now that I'm traveling for work I need to change the phone back to Unlocked to use the LTE bands in another country (buying a SIM card in Japan), and also for it to to work back on VZN when I return.
I'd really appreciate it if someone can point me in the right direction of the steps I need to take to perform this? Hoping I only need to change/flash a couple things to pop in a new SIM in Japan and pop back in the VZN SIM when I'm back.
Thanks all! Hopefully this could be useful for someone else in my situation. I'd venture to guess it's somewhat common...
-Josh
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I've used my VZW 10 in Japan with a local data sim card without issues. Check the operator you're interested in over there and make sure your VZW 10 covers those bands. Else choose a different operator. Also your network settings need to be set to Global instead of CDMA, if I remember correctly.
With that said if you still want to convert back to Unlocked to be safe, just change your CID to Unlocked (or even superCID) and run an unlocked ruu from htc.com. This will wipe your phone so back everything up. Then once you're back home, do the reverse using one of the no-wipe ruus on xda. I would have thought you'd be comfortable with this already since you've done it once before. Am I misreading your question?
One piece of advice, if you chose a data-only simcard there from the provider Docomo (largest one in Japan I think) or one of their subtiers, you will likely have battery drain issues due to your phone constantly looking for a cell/voice call connection with the towers. There is a fix for it but only if you have Xposed installed.
http://www.japanmobiletech.com/2013/08/improved-fix-for-docomo-mvno-data-only.html?m=1
Tarima said:
I've used my VZW 10 in Japan with a local data sim card without issues. Check the operator you're interested in over there and make sure your VZW 10 covers those bands. Else choose a different operator. Also your network settings need to be set to Global instead of CDMA, if I remember correctly.
With that said if you still want to convert back to Unlocked to be safe, just change your CID to Unlocked (or even superCID) and run an unlocked ruu from htc.com. This will wipe your phone so back everything up. Then once you're back home, do the reverse using one of the no-wipe ruus on xda. I would have thought you'd be comfortable with this already since you've done it once before. Am I misreading your question?
One piece of advice, if you chose a data-only simcard there from the provider Docomo (largest one in Japan I think) or one of their subtiers, you will likely have battery drain issues due to your phone constantly looking for a cell/voice call connection with the towers. There is a fix for it but only if you have Xposed installed.
http://www.japanmobiletech.com/2013/08/improved-fix-for-docomo-mvno-data-only.html?m=1
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Fantastic info, I appreciate it. I was looking at b-mobile (http://www.bmobile.ne.jp/english/index.html) because it would fit what I need (5GB/21 days/$30) but noticed the bands for them aren't supported by the VZW 10.
What company did you use?
Running an unlocked ruu from htc.com will basically make it a stock unlocked htc 10?
Another option is just getting a mobile hotspot for a bit more money and then can use my current rom... (http://www.globaladvancedcomm.com/pocketwifi.html)
finger11 said:
Fantastic info, I appreciate it. I was looking at b-mobile (http://www.bmobile.ne.jp/english/index.html) because it would fit what I need (5GB/21 days/$30) but noticed the bands for them aren't supported by the VZW 10.
What company did you use?
Running an unlocked ruu from htc.com will basically make it a stock unlocked htc 10?
Another option is just getting a mobile hotspot for a bit more money and then can use my current rom... (http://www.globaladvancedcomm.com/pocketwifi.html)
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I bought it from some stand at Narita airport called Telecomsquare. I just shopped around the many stands until I found a package I liked and which worked. Oddly enough the shop specifically said they don't support HTC phones, because of bands I think, but I still went with it and it worked.
Yes if your device is originally U.S Unlocked then changing your cid and mid back to unlocked and flashing ruu will work. You may need to wipe your radios after flashing the ruu as well to get rid of any Verizon radio settings.
Mobile hotspot is probably the simplest option if you're willing to pay for it. No need to fiddle around activating a sim card in a foreign airport

Sim unlock options for GSM Variant

So, after searching the forum, I haven't found anything that really answers my question...
I have the GSM Variant of the HTC 10. It's currently locked to Bell Mobility in Canada. I am looking to unlock this phone without paying Bell the fees they charge for unlocking. From the XDA searches and reading I've done, it looks like there may be a free way of accomplishing this... I found a post that indicates that the Sprint method may or may not work, but you need S-Off...
I found another post that suggests its the exact same as the HTC One M9 and I can use the directions from there. It also indicated that it was only for the Sprint HTC 10 too...
My question is, is there a free unlock method for the GSM HTC 10? Or does it only work with the Sprint version?
According to some googlling, you share the same phone as US unlocked model, based on MID (model ID). You would need S-off to flash a different modem though. modem partition is blocked by s-on feature. sunshine app and java cards are the only way to S-off. both are paid though, sunshine $25.
CID: BM 001
MID: 2PS650000
proceed at your own risk and research well :good:
Right. I think I knew that... ...which means that changing the CID would allow me to flash any RUU for Model 2PS6500, and should theoretically work period.
Which leads to another question I had after posting... Would flashing the US Unlocked RUU remove the sim lock on the phone? I've heard that an RUU replaces everything on the phone with pristine, shiny new code straight from HTC... Would this also replace the code that effectively locks the phone to Bell?
If that is the case, this could be far too good to be true...
Edit: Almost forgot. Perhaps slightly off topic, but what is a java card?
atirox said:
Right. I think I knew that... ...which means that changing the CID would allow me to flash any RUU for Model 2PS6500, and should theoretically work period.
Which leads to another question I had after posting... Would flashing the US Unlocked RUU remove the sim lock on the phone? I've heard that an RUU replaces everything on the phone with pristine, shiny new code straight from HTC... Would this also replace the code that effectively locks the phone to Bell?
If that is the case, this could be far too good to be true...
Edit: Almost forgot. Perhaps slightly off topic, but what is a java card?
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I've read that changing the MID/CID and flashing a modem is enough but.... since I can't quote it I cannot help you with that unfortunately. but should give you a running start, good luck
Thanks a bunch for the info. The thanks button didn't seem like enough thanks for the info.
Also, I'll post my procedures and results here, so if it doesn't work, at least we have a record.
atirox said:
Thanks a bunch for the info. The thanks button didn't seem like enough thanks for the info.
Also, I'll post my procedures and results here, so if it doesn't work, at least we have a record.
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you're welcome and I just google searched quickly and didn't find anything solid but again I'm sure you'll figure out a way.
So, just an update.
I used a website that allowed me to use trialpay to get my SIM Lock code, which worked beautifully.
Unfortunately, Bell Mobility seems to be in the market of continuing to cripple their phones... I've inserted my Rogers sim card and found that voice and text both work on Rogers. Data, does not (cannot set APN settings, not don't know how), along with LTE. Given that the phone supports all the bands that Rogers uses in Canada, I would not be overly surprised to find out that Bell crippled the radio firmware to ensure that the phone would perform it's best only on the Bell network. Heck, they did it with the CDMA Nokia phones, and with the old school Blackberries to ensure their revenue stream...
atirox said:
So, just an update.
I used a website that allowed me to use trialpay to get my SIM Lock code, which worked beautifully.
Unfortunately, Bell Mobility seems to be in the market of continuing to cripple their phones... I've inserted my Rogers sim card and found that voice and text both work on Rogers. Data, does not (cannot set APN settings, not don't know how), along with LTE. Given that the phone supports all the bands that Rogers uses in Canada, I would not be overly surprised to find out that Bell crippled the radio firmware to ensure that the phone would perform it's best only on the Bell network. Heck, they did it with the CDMA Nokia phones, and with the old school Blackberries to ensure their revenue stream...
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Maybe now is the time for that s-off and flashing of U.S Unlocked ruu.
The other thing you can try before spending the cash to s-off is unlocking your bootloader, flashing a custom rom and seeing if you can add a new apn from there. I'm very much surprised Bell would block that btw, I've unlocked Bell gsm phones and added new apn settings in the past.
While with XDA im all for free unlocking etc, if you are not S-off then it might be a bit hard
https://sim-unlock.net/site/HTC/10/
Ive had a stupid amount of phones and ive used these guys everytime ive needed a SIM unlock done.
Never failed once and if you can spend the money, it might be worth it in your case here... Against s-off - $25...
For me its a no brainer... I mean for 9 euros?....
But if you have already unlocked and they have crippled it like you say, then deffo go for s off
Fellas, correct me if I'm wrong, but if the SIM is unlocked, then all that's needed is to unlock the bootloader. That can be done for free via HTC Dev if you have tech chops, or via Sunshine (probably the better choice anyway). Then all that's needed is to change the CID and MID, and flash a WWE RUU. That would solve the problem, no?
BillTheCat said:
Fellas, correct me if I'm wrong, but if the SIM is unlocked, then all that's needed is to unlock the bootloader. That can be done for free via HTC Dev if you have tech chops, or via Sunshine (probably the better choice anyway). Then all that's needed is to change the CID and MID, and flash a WWE RUU. That would solve the problem, no?
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Yeah that's what I was suggesting as well. Bootloader unlock and flash a custom rom first to see if he's able to add new apns that way, and if that fails just go full s-off and run the unlocked RUU (unlocked is the better option here over wwe, same mid I believe and better support for updates).
BillTheCat said:
Fellas, correct me if I'm wrong, but if the SIM is unlocked, then all that's needed is to unlock the bootloader. That can be done for free via HTC Dev if you have tech chops, or via Sunshine (probably the better choice anyway). Then all that's needed is to change the CID and MID, and flash a WWE RUU. That would solve the problem, no?
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This is my thinking... I wanted the US Unlocked version anyway, but got the Bell one since I live in Canada, and was with Bell anyway. Actually, the SIM lock and the bootloader lock are two different locks. You don't have to remove the Simlock to remove the bootloader lock.
Tarima said:
Maybe now is the time for that s-off and flashing of U.S Unlocked ruu.
The other thing you can try before spending the cash to s-off is unlocking your bootloader, flashing a custom rom and seeing if you can add a new apn from there. I'm very much surprised Bell would block that btw, I've unlocked Bell gsm phones and added new apn settings in the past.
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I thought about it, but in the end I want US Unlocked due to speediness of updates as well as no more Bell tainted android.
Here is why I suspect Bell blocked it... When I go to view available APN's, all it shows on screen is a message essentially saying APN's cannot be added for this provider.. Also (took me a bit to clue in), LTE doesn't work on Rogers. If I had to guess, Bell wanted to make sure all the HTC 10's it sold stayed on it's network. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest... The Nokia 6275i was a kick butt awesome CDMA phone back in it's day. AMAZING call quality. Think VoLTE quality on 1xRTT. I don't know how they did it, but it must be a mix of pixie dust and unicorn blood... Anyway, every 6275i Bell sold was severely crippled. No Nokia Maps, just Bell's lame interpretation. Google maps wouldn't work either because it couldn't access the GPS, only Bells navigation app could. Couldn't set a custom ringtone unless it was purchased from Bell. Yet every other 6275i didn't suffer from these issues... Just ones sold by Bell.
So, an update to those interested....
I am now S-Off running US Unlocked firmware.
CID: BS_US001
MID: 2PS650000
Flashing to US Unlocked firmware seemed to do the trick for data. I can now set APNs and data does work. YAY!
Things to do:
1) Figure out why LTE signal sucks...
For whatever reason, the HTC 10 doesn't get LTE at home... I had a Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930W8) briefly which didn't always get LTE at home, but it at least had useable signal, whereas the HTC 10 doesn't, at least not on Rogers. When flashed with Bell firmware it worked as good as the S7 did. I have a theory that when I ran the RUU to change firmware variants, it didn't update the modem firmware... Also, upon further research, it looks like there are partitions that store configuration data for the modem called modemst1 and modemst2, which I'd bet are still configured for Bell, which means they probably set it up to never use LTE on another Canadian network unless you can't get signal on anything else...
2) Figure out how to change Device Certification back to certified.
I'm pretty sure this is because the bootloader is still unlocked... I'm going to try setting it back to locked which shouldn't make a difference to my ability to flash because the phone is S-Off anyway but it may make the difference to Google's Device Certification
3) Maybe try an aftermarket rom, etc... Basically whatever I want.
I actually quite like HTC Sense... Not sure I want to get rid of it just yet. Was thinking of going with Viper due to Wi-Fi Calling being enabled/supported since Rogers supports Wi-Fi Calling, and I refuse to believe I can't make it work on here... It worked on the S7 (same model my wife had on Bell), so why can't it work here? I am also open to suggestions as to good roms to use, so if you think it's good, let me know what rom and why and I may just give it a shot...
atirox said:
So, an update to those interested....
I am now S-Off running US Unlocked firmware.
CID: BS_US001
MID: 2PS650000
Flashing to US Unlocked firmware seemed to do the trick for data. I can now set APNs and data does work. YAY!
Things to do:
1) Figure out why LTE signal sucks...
For whatever reason, the HTC 10 doesn't get LTE at home... I had a Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930W8) briefly which didn't always get LTE at home, but it at least had useable signal, whereas the HTC 10 doesn't, at least not on Rogers. When flashed with Bell firmware it worked as good as the S7 did. I have a theory that when I ran the RUU to change firmware variants, it didn't update the modem firmware... Also, upon further research, it looks like there are partitions that store configuration data for the modem called modemst1 and modemst2, which I'd bet are still configured for Bell, which means they probably set it up to never use LTE on another Canadian network unless you can't get signal on anything else...
2) Figure out how to change Device Certification back to certified.
I'm pretty sure this is because the bootloader is still unlocked... I'm going to try setting it back to locked which shouldn't make a difference to my ability to flash because the phone is S-Off anyway but it may make the difference to Google's Device Certification
3) Maybe try an aftermarket rom, etc... Basically whatever I want.
I actually quite like HTC Sense... Not sure I want to get rid of it just yet. Was thinking of going with Viper due to Wi-Fi Calling being enabled/supported since Rogers supports Wi-Fi Calling, and I refuse to believe I can't make it work on here... It worked on the S7 (same model my wife had on Bell), so why can't it work here? I am also open to suggestions as to good roms to use, so if you think it's good, let me know what rom and why and I may just give it a shot...
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FYI you can clear the modem settings using the following from bootloader mode:
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
Tarima said:
FYI you can clear the modem settings using the following from bootloader mode:
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
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I tried with HTC_fastboot and normal fastboot but:
Code:
htc_fastboot v3.0.9.2 (2015-05-29)
erasing 'modemst2'...
FAILED (remote: Partition modemst2 erase not supported)
finished. total time: 0.001s
htc_fastboot finished. total time: 0.235s
nightauthor said:
I tried with HTC_fastboot and normal fastboot but:
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From bootloader mode?
Tarima said:
From bootloader mode?
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Yeah, I found the bootloader thing in another thread, thanks for the follow up though.
I've tried flashing US Unlocked, was prompted for a sim unlock code when I put a Verizon sim in my Tmobile phone.
So I tried flashing Verizon firmware, it told me that my verizon sim... was not a verizon sim.
Did the modem reset, didnt make a difference. Not sure what else to try.
Updates
So, as an update to any parties interested,
I've resolved some of the data issues I was having, where data didn't seem to work unless I was using LTE.
It seems that it's a joint problem between me and Rogers.
My problem was that even though the US Unlocked variant appears to be using the same radio firmware as the Bell variant, the Bell variant seems to have better programming, since I've been getting stronger signal in more areas, as well as slightly better throughput on HSPA connections. The issue I had with APN's and Bell firmware seemed to sort its self out after flashing back to the Bell variant from US Unlocked.
The Rogers end of the problem, is the Rogers network in Manitoba appears to have been a joint venture between Rogers and MTS, prior to MTS being bought out by Bell Mobility. Now that Bell has taken control of MTS, it sounds like Bell realized a lot of the MTS equipment was outdated, and has been attempting upgrades, which seem to be causing more problems than what they're worth. A co-worker is with MTS, and has been having a heck of a time with all of his services from MTS, and the technician's he's spoken to have led on to some deeper issues than what he's seeing. I would imagine that since the agreement was between Rogers and MTS originally, that Bell will have to honor that agreement for at least some time, which (to me) says that my HSPA data slowness could be due to Bell attempting to update the shared hardware between MTS and Rogers.
nightauthor said:
I've tried flashing US Unlocked, was prompted for a sim unlock code when I put a Verizon sim in my Tmobile phone.
So I tried flashing Verizon firmware, it told me that my verizon sim... was not a verizon sim.
Did the modem reset, didnt make a difference. Not sure what else to try.
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I'm not sure that flashing the VZW firmware would write to RFG_8 (the simlock partition)... If that simlock partition hasn't been rewritten, you're phone is likely still locked to T-Mobile, but with no way to unlock it though the VZW firmware since AFAIK T-Mobile uses an app to remove the simlock. The modem reset would only reset the parameters of the modem, not remove the sim lock...

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